
Please keep the arnauld console logged in as administrator so bilbo, the linux development host, can continue to run. If for some reason you do log out as administrator, you need to first go to the vmware bilbo window and shutdown bilbo by logging into bilbo as root and running shutdown. The problem when someone logs out the administrator is that there is a chance that bilbo's disks will get trashed unless it is brought down cleanly first. (FYI, the fsck was successful, and I don't need to know who logged out without bringing bilbo down first.) This problem is getting worse where someone wants to use arnauld to demo/debug and someone needs arnauld/bilbo to build the Linux distribution, so I'd like to get bilbo moved to another computer, preferably a linux server in the machine room running linux natively (ASAP). Greg

Let's discuss the options on Friday when you're in. We need arnauld to run Chimera tests and demos, and we can't easily tell when someone is using the machine remotely for compiles. --tom --------
Please keep the arnauld console logged in as administrator so bilbo, the linux development host, can continue to run. If for some reason you do log out as administrator, you need to first go to the vmware bilbo window and shutdown bilbo by logging into bilbo as root and running shutdown. The problem when someone logs out the administrator is that there is a chance that bilbo's disks will get trashed unless it is brought down cleanly first. (FYI, the fsck was successful, and I don't need to know who logged out without bringing bilbo down first.)
This problem is getting worse where someone wants to use arnauld to demo/debug and someone needs arnauld/bilbo to build the Linux distribution, so I'd like to get bilbo moved to another computer, preferably a linux server in the machine room running linux natively (ASAP).
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Having the Chimera linux build on arnauld with VMWare has been very inconvenient for me too. Usually I have to log in as administrator (if the machine is available) and start bilbo. I also run into the reverse situation where I have to shutdown bilbo so I can log in and run some Windows tests under my arnauld account. A workable solution is to get a better version of VMWare on arnauld that can be run without having to remain logged in. I don't think arnauld is used so much that demos would be impaired by background compiles. Of course, a separate linux machine would be better. Tom

Thomas Goddard wrote:
Having the Chimera linux build on arnauld with VMWare has been very inconvenient for me too. Usually I have to log in as administrator (if the machine is available) and start bilbo. I also run into the reverse situation where I have to shutdown bilbo so I can log in and run some Windows tests under my arnauld account.
A workable solution is to get a better version of VMWare on arnauld that can be run without having to remain logged in. I don't think arnauld is used so much that demos would be impaired by background compiles. Of course, a separate linux machine would be better.
The server version of VMware costs many thousands of dollars but lets you log out. On the other hand, with the Linux version of VMware (linux host, linux guest) you can run VMware on VNC and never worry about the desktop user logging out. Machine shutdown is still a problem, however. Dave
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David E. Konerding
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Greg Couch
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Thomas Goddard
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Tom Ferrin