Matt covered pretty much everything, but note that for active glasses plus a 120Hz LCD (number 2 below), you'll want a Quadro card instead of a Geforce card; Chimera works in windowed mode with Nvidia 3D vision and a Quadro card. The advantage over the crystal eyes setup is that because Nvidia 3D vision uses a usb-connected emitter, the Quadro card need not be equipped with an onboard stereo port, so you can buy a cheap ($120) model like the FX380.

I also have a setup that uses a cheaper projector capable of 85Hz sequential projection, a FX4500 Quadro card I bought used for $500, and 30pr of relatively cheap active eyewear (the $100 edimensional glasses). But honestly, active eyewear is a bad idea for large audiences. Bad. I covet Matt's passive setup with the infocus projector.

Dan

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Dougherty, Matthew T <matthewd@bcm.tmc.edu> wrote:
Hi Ed,

It turns out it is a complicated answer depending on various factors.  I will outline some of the issues.

If you are doing a workstation only, that is not supporting a projector for a lot of users, the cheapest route is row interleave; zalman makes a display for $300, and uses cheap glasses ($1-$15) the same used in most movie theaters; no additional hardware.  The downside is you loose half your vertical resolution.

If you are doing a workstation only and want maximum vertical resolution you will need to go with active glasses.
There are several ways to make this happen:
1) crystal eyes glasses ($300), quadro card ($1800), emitter ($100), CRT ($200-500); stereographics.com.  NuVision offers cheaper glasses.  Someday someone might offer a 120HZ compatible LCD display, this is not a technical problem.
2) active glasses ($150), Gforce card ($300), LCD 120 HZ monitor ($300), emitter ($50); only works on MS Windows, not sure if chimera supports this.  nvidia.com  Nothing is compatible with #1). someday may work with linux and mac.

If you are doing a workstation and want to support a projector, you got two options, passive and active using an in-focus projector ($5-6k).
You get full vertical resolution even if you are doing passive.  If you do passive you will need a polarizer ($5k) and cheap glasses ($1-15) same used in the most movie theaters.  If you do active you need a theater emitter ($500-1000) and active glasses ($200-300).  Either way you are going to need a quadro card ($1800) in your workstation.

In my lab we use all the methods except the polarizer, which is on order.  I find the Zalman approach the least hassle and most recyclable, but for conference room setting with a number of people the polarizer is most economical, what the movie theaters are gravitating to, and has less operational failures.

Matt
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From: chimera-users-bounces@cgl.ucsf.edu [chimera-users-bounces@cgl.ucsf.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Pettersen [pett@cgl.ucsf.edu]
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Subject: [Chimera-users] Fwd: Chimera 3-D viewing

Forwarding Ed Pate's question (below) to this list, in the hope that someone who actually knows the answer can chime in!

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From: Edward Pate <edpate@hotmail.com<mailto:edpate@hotmail.com>>
Date: June 19, 2010 2:39:09 PM PDT
To: <pett@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:pett@cgl.ucsf.edu>>
Subject: Chimera 3-D viewing

Hi Eric:

I am looking into getting a new workstation for Chimera.  In the past, we have gotten CRT displays in order to do 3-D visualization.  Could you recommend other display options that are available now and that users have been happy with?  Is a CRT still the best option?

Thanks for the help.

Ed

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