
I wonder if there is a short way to introduce consurf output colors to multiscale models. My virus particle has 60 trimers (three chains of the same protein). Thank you in advance, Stanislav

Hi Stanislav, I believe if you start with one subunit with atomic coordinates and get Consurf coloring on those (or any coloring scheme, for that matter), then you can use the "msc" command to apply the same coloring to the Multiscale surface copies of that subunit. For example, if your subunit atomic coords are model 0 and the multiscale surfaces are model 1: msc #0 #1 5.0 <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/msc.html> You may want to experiment with the cutoff distance (5.0 in the example) and the resolution of your multiscale surfaces. I hope this helps, Elaine On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
I wonder if there is a short way to introduce consurf output colors to multiscale models. My virus particle has 60 trimers (three chains of the same protein). Thank you in advance, Stanislav

Whoops, I typed the models backwards. Should be: msc #1 #0 5.0 to match my verbal description. Sorry about that. Elaine On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Elaine Meng wrote:
Hi Stanislav, I believe if you start with one subunit with atomic coordinates and get Consurf coloring on those (or any coloring scheme, for that matter), then you can use the "msc" command to apply the same coloring to the Multiscale surface copies of that subunit. For example, if your subunit atomic coords are model 0 and the multiscale surfaces are model 1:
msc #0 #1 5.0
<http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/msc.html>
You may want to experiment with the cutoff distance (5.0 in the example) and the resolution of your multiscale surfaces. I hope this helps, Elaine
On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
I wonder if there is a short way to introduce consurf output colors to multiscale models. My virus particle has 60 trimers (three chains of the same protein). Thank you in advance, Stanislav

Hi Stanislav, Elaine's suggestion to use the msc command will work, but there are a few more tricks that are needed. The first problem is that the PDB file that the ConSurf web site will give you has the header remarks stripped off. Those header remarks contain the icosahedral symmetry for the virus (REMARK 350 BIOMT records). So you should get the ConSurf PDB file which has the coloring coded in the b-factor column and use a text editor to put back the PDB header from the original PDB file for the virus. This will allow the Chimera MultiScale dialog to make the full virus capsid from the ConSurf file. The next problem is that the virus capsomere is a trimer. So you need to run ConSurf on the 3 chain separately. To combine them, I would use a text editor and copy and paste the ATOM records for the ConSurf chain A results, and the ConSurf chain B results, and the ConSurf chain C results into a single file (and paste the original PDB header back on). Load this patched together file in Chimera, and use the Chimera coloring script available on the ConSurf site to color the atoms. Then make the MultiScale model, and use the "msc" command as Elaine described. I tried this for Calicivirus, PDB 3M8L, and produced the attached images using MultiScale surface resolutions 0 to show solvent excluded surfaces. Tom
Whoops, I typed the models backwards. Should be:
msc #1 #0 5.0
to match my verbal description. Sorry about that. Elaine
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Elaine Meng wrote:
Hi Stanislav, I believe if you start with one subunit with atomic coordinates and get Consurf coloring on those (or any coloring scheme, for that matter), then you can use the "msc" command to apply the same coloring to the Multiscale surface copies of that subunit. For example, if your subunit atomic coords are model 0 and the multiscale surfaces are model 1:
msc #0 #1 5.0
<http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/msc.html>
You may want to experiment with the cutoff distance (5.0 in the example) and the resolution of your multiscale surfaces. I hope this helps, Elaine
On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
I wonder if there is a short way to introduce consurf output colors to multiscale models. My virus particle has 60 trimers (three chains of the same protein). Thank you in advance, Stanislav
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Hi Elaine, Thank you! What about moving (colors) from one chain to another. Somehow, Consurf returned results placing colors on one chain only, it happened a couple times, I checked what I was requesting and it was for a different chain. Stanislav On 11/9/10 1:30 PM, "Elaine Meng" <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: Hi Stanislav, I believe if you start with one subunit with atomic coordinates and get Consurf coloring on those (or any coloring scheme, for that matter), then you can use the "msc" command to apply the same coloring to the Multiscale surface copies of that subunit. For example, if your subunit atomic coords are model 0 and the multiscale surfaces are model 1: msc #0 #1 5.0 <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/msc.html> You may want to experiment with the cutoff distance (5.0 in the example) and the resolution of your multiscale surfaces. I hope this helps, Elaine On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
I wonder if there is a short way to introduce consurf output colors to multiscale models. My virus particle has 60 trimers (three chains of the same protein). Thank you in advance, Stanislav

Hi Stanislav, Maybe you already figured this out, but Tom's reply to chimera-users yesterday gave a more complete answer than mine. My test example had only one unique chain, but I think if you try his suggestions it should take care of your trimer case: <http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2010-November/005734.html> Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
Hi Elaine, Thank you! What about moving (colors) from one chain to another. Somehow, Consurf returned results placing colors on one chain only, it happened a couple times, I checked what I was requesting and it was for a different chain. Stanislav

Hi Elaine, Thank you for your help! Indeed, I was able to generate the model following steps suggested by you and Tom. Stanislav On 11/10/10 12:47 PM, "Elaine Meng" <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: Hi Stanislav, Maybe you already figured this out, but Tom's reply to chimera-users yesterday gave a more complete answer than mine. My test example had only one unique chain, but I think if you try his suggestions it should take care of your trimer case: <http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2010-November/005734.html> Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Sosnovtsev, Stanislav (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
Hi Elaine, Thank you! What about moving (colors) from one chain to another. Somehow, Consurf returned results placing colors on one chain only, it happened a couple times, I checked what I was requesting and it was for a different chain. Stanislav
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