To whom it may concern, My name is Seiha Thorng and I work for BioMarin Pharmaceuticals, Inc. I'm looking into UCSF Chimera as a promising software for our research purposes. I would like to ask you what equipment you would recommend for optimal performance of this software. The answer I'm looking for is in terms of ram, platform, processor, disc space ....etc. We would like very much to be able to run this program at the best possible performance. Thank you. Seiha This message is intended only for the confidential use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and delete the original message and any attachments. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message (including the attachments), or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Seiha Thorng wrote:
My name is Seiha Thorng and I work for BioMarin Pharmaceuticals, Inc. I'm looking into UCSF Chimera as a promising software for our research purposes. I would like to ask you what equipment you would recommend for optimal performance of this software. The answer I'm looking for is in terms of ram, platform, processor, disc space ....etc. We would like very much to be able to run this program at the best possible performance. Thank you.
The answer to your question depends on what size of the systems you are going to be viewing/modelling, and what other software you will be using. You should create a representative set of sample data and the operations you wish to perform on them, and then get several vendors to supply you with a demo system, so you can test how well they work for your data. It also helps to have a budget -- you can easily spend $10,000 or more for an "optimal" system if wanted. And maybe you have other constraints, sometimes companies only buy computers from one vendor to simplify support logistics. Some high-end examples: (1) An Apple Quad 2.5GHz PowerPC G5 with 2GB ECC SDRAM, 250GB disk, Quadro FX 4500, 30" Cinema HD display -- $7,948. (2) An HP xw9300 Dual Dual-core 2.6GHz Opteron, 2BG ECC, 74BG 10K-rpm disk, Quadro FX 4500, 23" widescreen monitor -- $9,603. The HP system would be more optimal than the Apple system, but both would be great systems. If you wanted to view your molecules in stereo, you would have to buy a separate CRT that could handle the higher refresh rates (see <http://www.stereographics.com> for stereo hardware help). You could make the HP system better with 15K-rpm SCSI disks and a second SLI graphics card. Of course, depending on the size of your data, you might not need a workstation. Smaller systems work well on home computers, especially ones designed for gaming. You really need to use your own data on real computers to be able to tell for sure. Rules of thumb: More than 2 cpus (or one dual-core cpu) doesn't help chimera (yet!), so you could scimp on that. Faster cpus are better because ball&stick visualization is partially cpu limited. Even one cpu will work, but the computer will be more responsive with two. Chimera uses a lot of memory, so 2GB is reasonable for 2 cpus -- if you're displaying volume data, you will want more, if your displaying huge molecules, you'll want more. You'll also want more memory if you have other programs running at the same time. Memory is fairly cheap, so get a lot. Chimera doesn't need much disk space, so if you data doesn't either, buy the faster disk. If you want to view your molecule in stereo, you have to buy a workstation-class graphics card -- an ATI FireGL, NVidia Quadro, or 3DLabs Wildcat. The Quadro FX 4500 in the examples above is the current best graphics card in our benchmarks, but we have not benchmarked the new 3DLabs Wildcat Realizm 800, nor the ATI FireGL V7100. See <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/benchmarks.html> for the benchmark numbers we have. My hunch is that the 3DLabs card is as good, if not better than, the NVidia one, but I don't know for sure. Hope this helps, good luck, Greg Couch UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Greg Couch wrote:
Chimera uses a lot of memory, so 2GB is reasonable for 2 cpus -- if you're displaying volume data, you will want more, if your displaying huge molecules, you'll want more. You'll also want more memory if you have other programs running at the same time. Memory is fairly cheap, so get a lot.
Don't mean to scare you off here. While Chimera does use a lot of memory, 512MB is fine for many types of analyses. If you are working on ribosome-size structures, or many (20+) smaller structures -- or large volumetric data sets -- then you would want to increase your memory to 1-2+ GB. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett@cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu
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