
Hi Sir/Madam I want to create models which consist of multiple protein molecules, in which the individual protein molecules are fused together to form a single structure. Something like the scanning 3D maps produced by electron microscopes. Is it possible to do this with the Muliscale Models tool or some other tool or method in Chimera? An example of what I want to do appears in the cutaway rotavirus illustration (Fig. 1A) in Chen and colleagues paper, titled, "Molecular interactions in rotavirus assembly and uncoating seen by high-resolution cryo-EM" (PNAS, vol. 106. no. 26, p. 10644). In this illustration the yellow triangular shaped structure are multiple VP7 molecules fused together. Regards Brian Grech

Hi Brian, Figure 1A shows a density map that has been segmented and colored, with an octant chopped out. <http://www.pnas.org/content/106/26/10644.long> Chimera does have tools for building multimers using symmetry information, see Multiscale Models, Unit Cell, and command "sym." However, these just generate and place the extra copies, either as low-res surfaces (Multiscale Models) or as full atomic copies (Unit Cell). There is no "fusing" or generating a density map from the whole assembly. Each chain is separate. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multiscale/framemulti.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/unitcell/unitcell.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/sym.html> You could get a whole assembly at atomic detail and then simulate a density map from it with the "molmap" command. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/molmap.html> However, that would be very inefficient and might overload your system and take forever. That is why Multiscale Models makes the copies as low-resolution surfaces by default. You might want to take a look at Multiscale Models and see if what it does meets your needs before trying that more drastic approach. An easy way to try it is to use File... Fetch by ID and get something from viperdb, which will automatically use Multiscale Models to build the capsid. Besides the example given in the dialog, I like 1pov (poliovirus) and 1bbt (foot and mouth disease virus). I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Oct 14, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Brian & Lanie Grech wrote:
Hi Sir/Madam I want to create models which consist of multiple protein molecules, in which the individual protein molecules are fused together to form a single structure. Something like the scanning 3D maps produced by electron microscopes. Is it possible to do this with the Muliscale Models tool or some other tool or method in Chimera?
An example of what I want to do appears in the cutaway rotavirus illustration (Fig. 1A) in Chen and colleagues paper, titled, “Molecular interactions in rotavirus assembly and uncoating seen by high-resolution cryo-EM” (PNAS, vol. 106. no. 26, p. 10644). In this illustration the yellow triangular shaped structure are multiple VP7 molecules fused together.
Regards Brian Grech

Hi Elaine and Tom Thank you for the suggestions, I haven't had a chance to try any of them. But I hope to do this in the next couple of days. Regards Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Elaine Meng To: Brian & Lanie Grech Cc: chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Molecule fusing Hi Brian, Figure 1A shows a density map that has been segmented and colored, with an octant chopped out. <http://www.pnas.org/content/106/26/10644.long> Chimera does have tools for building multimers using symmetry information, see Multiscale Models, Unit Cell, and command "sym." However, these just generate and place the extra copies, either as low-res surfaces (Multiscale Models) or as full atomic copies (Unit Cell). There is no "fusing" or generating a density map from the whole assembly. Each chain is separate. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multiscale/framemulti.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/unitcell/unitcell.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/sym.html> You could get a whole assembly at atomic detail and then simulate a density map from it with the "molmap" command. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/molmap.html> However, that would be very inefficient and might overload your system and take forever. That is why Multiscale Models makes the copies as low-resolution surfaces by default. You might want to take a look at Multiscale Models and see if what it does meets your needs before trying that more drastic approach. An easy way to try it is to use File... Fetch by ID and get something from viperdb, which will automatically use Multiscale Models to build the capsid. Besides the example given in the dialog, I like 1pov (poliovirus) and 1bbt (foot and mouth disease virus). I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Oct 14, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Brian & Lanie Grech wrote: Hi Sir/Madam I want to create models which consist of multiple protein molecules, in which the individual protein molecules are fused together to form a single structure. Something like the scanning 3D maps produced by electron microscopes. Is it possible to do this with the Muliscale Models tool or some other tool or method in Chimera? An example of what I want to do appears in the cutaway rotavirus illustration (Fig. 1A) in Chen and colleagues paper, titled, “Molecular interactions in rotavirus assembly and uncoating seen by high-resolution cryo-EM” (PNAS, vol. 106. no. 26, p. 10644). In this illustration the yellow triangular shaped structure are multiple VP7 molecules fused together. Regards Brian Grech _____________________________________________________ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning

Hi Brian, Yes, if you want to make a density map for a VP7 trimer of rotavirus and you had 3 monomer VP7 atomic models opened and positioned to make a trimer in Chimera you would make the map with Chimera command: molmap #0-2 8 where the monomer model numbers are 0, 1, 2 in this example and the desired map resolution is 8 Angstroms. As Elaine pointed out, if you want to make an entire virus capsid map calculated from atomic models you may run into trouble because Chimera will take too much memory for the millions of atoms. Still it may be possible, but I would reduce the atomic models to C-alpha atoms only. Tom
Hi Sir/Madam
I want to create models which consist of multiple protein molecules, in which the individual protein molecules are fused together to form a single structure. Something like the scanning 3D maps produced by electron microscopes. Is it possible to do this with the Muliscale Models tool or some other tool or method in Chimera?
An example of what I want to do appears in the cutaway rotavirus illustration (Fig. 1A) in Chen and colleagues paper, titled, "Molecular interactions in rotavirus assembly and uncoating seen by high-resolution cryo-EM" (PNAS, vol. 106. no. 26, p. 10644). In this illustration the yellow triangular shaped structure are multiple VP7 molecules fused together.
Regards
Brian Grech
participants (3)
-
Brian & Lanie Grech
-
Elaine Meng
-
Tom Goddard