
Hi, My info: Graphics - NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285 Processors - 2 Intel Pentium 4 Clock (MHz) - 3400 OS Type - Windows Surface - 261 Mesh - 116 Contour - 144 Solid - 110 Recolor - 95 Notes - Test Date - 04 sept 2007 Chimera Version - 2422 Machine - Dell Precision WorkStation 380 Graphics Memory (Mb) - 64 Main Memory (Mb) - 1024 OS Version - XP Professional, 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600 Driver Version - 7.1.8.4 Host name Dr. Dave's computer The machine isn't that bad, I guess it is let down by a poor graphics card. Cheers, D David Waterman Post-Doctoral Research Associate Macromolecular Crystallography +44(0)1235 778722 Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond House Harwell Science and Innovation Campus Didcot Oxfordshire OX11 0DE United Kingdom <DIV><FONT size="1" color="gray">This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom </FONT></DIV>

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Waterman, DG (David) wrote:
My info: Graphics - NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285
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The machine isn't that bad, I guess it is let down by a poor graphics card.
Just so everyone knows, the NVidia Quadro NVS series of graphics cards are designed for 2D, not 3D, work (i.e., "business graphics" instead of "professional graphics"). So if you have a choice, get a gaming or professional graphics card instead. Greg Couch UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

Hi David, Thanks for the Chimera graphics benchmark scores. They'll appear on our benchmark web page tomorrow. I've seen two machines (laptops) with Nvidia NVS graphics cards that had relatively low Chimera graphics rendering scores. Greg Couch, a Chimera developer says the NVS cards are intended for 2 dimensional graphics. The graphics was much faster on one of the machines after changing some driver settings. I think one change was to turn "triple buffering" off but I'm not sure that is what improved the speed. Perhaps Greg remembers what changes on John Irwin's machine improved the speed. Tom

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Tom Goddard wrote:
I've seen two machines (laptops) with Nvidia NVS graphics cards that had relatively low Chimera graphics rendering scores. Greg Couch, a Chimera developer says the NVS cards are intended for 2 dimensional graphics. The graphics was much faster on one of the machines after changing some driver settings. I think one change was to turn "triple buffering" off but I'm not sure that is what improved the speed. Perhaps Greg remembers what changes on John Irwin's machine improved the speed.
Tom
The change was to reset the driver settings to their defaults. As for any graphics card with limited memory, do not turn on memory consuming options unless you need them. So for a Quadro NVS, turn off antialiasing, turn off triple buffering, turn on unified back/depth buffer, turn off stereo, and turn off overlay. Turning off antialiasing will have the biggest effect on performance -- you can turn it off on the chimera command line with the --nomultisample option instead of modifying the driver settings. - Greg

Many thanks to Tom and Greg for their information on the Nvidia NVS cards. I think I have a strong case to make to my employer to upgrade some machines - at least those of postdocs who need to make pictures for papers! Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: Greg Couch [mailto:gregc@cgl.ucsf.edu] Sent: 05 September 2007 21:23 To: Tom Goddard Cc: Waterman, DG (David); chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] benchmark scores On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Tom Goddard wrote:
I've seen two machines (laptops) with Nvidia NVS graphics cards that had relatively low Chimera graphics rendering scores. Greg Couch, a Chimera developer says the NVS cards are intended for 2 dimensional graphics. The graphics was much faster on one of the machines after changing some driver settings. I think one change was to turn "triple
buffering" off but I'm not sure that is what improved the speed. Perhaps Greg remembers what changes on John Irwin's machine improved the speed.
Tom
The change was to reset the driver settings to their defaults. As for any graphics card with limited memory, do not turn on memory consuming options unless you need them. So for a Quadro NVS, turn off antialiasing, turn off triple buffering, turn on unified back/depth buffer, turn off stereo, and turn off overlay. Turning off antialiasing will have the biggest effect on performance -- you can turn it off on the chimera command line with the --nomultisample option instead of modifying the driver settings. - Greg <DIV><FONT size="1" color="gray">This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee or an authorised recipient of the addressee please notify us of receipt by returning the e-mail and do not use, copy, retain, distribute or disclose the information in or attached to the e-mail. Any opinions expressed within this e-mail are those of the individual and not necessarily of Diamond Light Source Ltd. Diamond Light Source Ltd. cannot guarantee that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses and we cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses which may be transmitted in or with the message. Diamond Light Source Limited (company no. 4375679). Registered in England and Wales with its registered office at Diamond House, Harwell Science and Innovation Campus, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 0DE, United Kingdom </FONT></DIV>
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