Protonating ASP and GLU

Is there any special reason why, in the AddH option, side chains are only considered for HIS (with full options)? Why similar options are not given to protonate GLU and/or ASP at the carboxylate? The general option to consider H-bonding does not work in my case for such residues close to one another in space with Chimera (the two O atoms of two ASP residues are at 2.56A from one another). Even Reduce, supposed to protonate close lying carboxylates, failed in my case. This is why I would consider to add that option in future versions of Chimera. Thanks francesco pietra

Hi Francesco, Because the (unshifted) pKa of His is much closer to 7 than the (unshifted) pKa of carboxylates; in other words, the alternative protonation states of His are much more commonly encountered in proteins than those of Asp and Glu. However, even though there is no option in AddH, you can still add the hydrogen in Chimera to form neutral Asp/Glu, as described in these previous posts to you: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-August/002910.html http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-August/002915.html In summary, you need to change the atom type of the oxygen you want to have the proton, and if it is not already, name that oxygen OD2 in Asp (OE2 in Glu) and the other one OD1 in Asp (OE1 in Glu). Also as mentioned in those posts, instead of using Chimera you could do it in Amber, or try some of the many web servers. You said Reduce failed. I don't recall if it claims to protonate (neutralize) Asp/Glu as needed, but if it does, perhaps it concluded that protonation in your structure was unfavorable and unlikely. Maybe one of the other servers would do what you want.
H++ http://biophysics.cs.vt.edu/H++/
PROPKA/PDB2PQR http://propka.ki.ku.dk/~drogers/
Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng@cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:14 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote:
Is there any special reason why, in the AddH option, side chains are only considered for HIS (with full options)? Why similar options are not given to protonate GLU and/or ASP at the carboxylate?
The general option to consider H-bonding does not work in my case for such residues close to one another in space with Chimera (the two O atoms of two ASP residues are at 2.56A from one another). Even Reduce, supposed to protonate close lying carboxylates, failed in my case. This is why I would consider to add that option in future versions of Chimera.
Thanks francesco pietra
participants (2)
-
Elaine Meng
-
Francesco Pietra