hi, just a quick user interface suggestion: it would be great if mouse-over over all directory listings (when choosing files to load etc) could activate the mouse wheel for both x and y scrolling. right now, only placing the cursor directly over the scroll bars allows scrolling by mouse wheel, and there is only one mouse wheel axis to scroll with. i am on mac is x 10.5.6 and using a recent native snapshot cheers, nils
Hi Nils, I'm guessing you are using the Mac mouse with the tiny ball-bearing size scroll ball. I just tested that with Aqua Chimera 1.3 and the Aqua daily build and both horizontal and vertical scrolling with the ball worked as expected. I could scroll both vertically and horizontally within the Open dialog pane the mouse was over. By horizontal I mean if the file names are too long to fit in the pane then a horizontal scroll bar appears at the bottom of that pane and that is what moves horizontally. To move the panes left and right I had to put the mouse over the horizontal scrollbar that sits under all the panes. All this seems about as good as possible except for the case when there is no horizontal scrollbar for an individual pane (long file names). In that case horizontal scrolling could scroll all the panes left or right. It would be quirky because as the panes move and your mouse doesn't move the mouse might go over a new pane which has it's own horizontal scrollbar and the scrolling behavior would abruptly change to just scrolling that pane. Annoying. My observations seem to differ from yours. I'm using Mac OS 10.5.7. Horizontal scrolling does not work in the Mac X11 Chimera. We plan on discontinuing the Mac X11 Chimera in favor of Mac Aqua Chimera at some point in the future. Tom Nils Becker wrote:
hi,
just a quick user interface suggestion: it would be great if mouse-over over all directory listings (when choosing files to load etc) could activate the mouse wheel for both x and y scrolling.
right now, only placing the cursor directly over the scroll bars allows scrolling by mouse wheel, and there is only one mouse wheel axis to scroll with.
i am on mac is x 10.5.6 and using a recent native snapshot
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Thomas Goddard wrote:
All this seems about as good as possible except for the case when there is no horizontal scrollbar for an individual pane (long file names). In that case horizontal scrolling could scroll all the panes left or right. It would be quirky because as the panes move and your mouse doesn't move the mouse might go over a new pane which has it's own horizontal scrollbar and the scrolling behavior would abruptly change to just scrolling that pane. Annoying.
My observations seem to differ from yours. I'm using Mac OS 10.5.7.
Hi Tom, thanks for the reply, I verified and you are right about the present behavior. I guess I disagree on the last point; i think horizontal scrolling through the directory hierarchy is more often used than the scrolling for long file names (at least in my experience). so i would opt for the jumpy behavior, or if that's undesired, for having the mouse x scroll wheel scroll only the panels and never the file names (for these, one would have to use the scroll bar). but that's just me.. nild
Hi Nils, I agree with you. The horizontal scrolling with a Mac mouse scroll ball should movethe panels left and right rather than long file names in a single panel left and right. The long file name scrolling is less common and can be done by the usual mouse drag on the scrollbar. I'll see if Eric Pettersen who wrote the Open dialog code agrees and will put it on his feature request list. I think we haven't noticed this at our lab even though most of us use Macs because we all use non-Mac 3-button mice. Thanks for the suggestion. Tom Nils Becker wrote:
Thomas Goddard wrote:
All this seems about as good as possible except for the case when there is no horizontal scrollbar for an individual pane (long file names). In that case horizontal scrolling could scroll all the panes left or right. It would be quirky because as the panes move and your mouse doesn't move the mouse might go over a new pane which has it's own horizontal scrollbar and the scrolling behavior would abruptly change to just scrolling that pane. Annoying.
My observations seem to differ from yours. I'm using Mac OS 10.5.7.
Hi Tom,
thanks for the reply, I verified and you are right about the present behavior. I guess I disagree on the last point; i think horizontal scrolling through the directory hierarchy is more often used than the scrolling for long file names (at least in my experience). so i would opt for the jumpy behavior, or if that's undesired, for having the mouse x scroll wheel scroll only the panels and never the file names (for these, one would have to use the scroll bar). but that's just me.. nild
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