Tear-off menus in Chimera 1.5.3 for Mac OS X
Hi, I am running the native aqua version of Chimera 1.5.3 on Mac OS X 10.6, and it seems that the "tear off" feature of the menus is not available, though I was previously able to do that when running the X window version of Chimera. Is there a way to use the menu "tear off" feature in the native aqua version? Thanks! Jeff -- Associate Professor of Biochemistry Department of Chemistry Eastern University 1300 Eagle Road St. Davids, PA 19087 (610) 341-1545
Hi Jeff, Sorry, tear-off menus are not available in the native aqua version of Chimera (regardless of Chimera version number or Mac OS X version number). For Mac, only the X windows version has this feature. Because the "Actions... Color" menu was one of the most useful to tear off, to provide a similar behavior in all Chimera versions we have implemented a separate Color Actions dialog (opened by choosing "Actions... Color... all options"). No global solution to allow tearing off menus in the native Mac version has been found, however. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jeff Lawton wrote:
Hi, I am running the native aqua version of Chimera 1.5.3 on Mac OS X 10.6, and it seems that the "tear off" feature of the menus is not available, though I was previously able to do that when running the X window version of Chimera. Is there a way to use the menu "tear off" feature in the native aqua version? Thanks! Jeff
Hi Jeff, The Tk window toolkit Chimera uses does not support tear-off menus with Mac native windows. So it is not possible for Chimera to provide them. I submitted a Tk bug report about this Mac Tk limitation in January 2010, and the main Mac Tk developer Daniel Steffens commented: "these are deliberately not supported, they were always a horrible hack in the Carbon port, and do not fit in with the Aqua L&F. "Won't fix" as far as I'm concerned, but if someone else wants to provide an implementation, I won't strongly oppose its inclusion." http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2935311&group_id=12... There currently is no active Mac Tk developer and another Tk bug triager Kevin Walzer closed this bug report so it is not likely Mac Tk will ever support tearoffs. Tom
Hi Jeff, Sorry, tear-off menus are not available in the native aqua version of Chimera (regardless of Chimera version number or Mac OS X version number). For Mac, only the X windows version has this feature.
Because the "Actions... Color" menu was one of the most useful to tear off, to provide a similar behavior in all Chimera versions we have implemented a separate Color Actions dialog (opened by choosing "Actions... Color... all options"). No global solution to allow tearing off menus in the native Mac version has been found, however. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jeff Lawton wrote:
Hi, I am running the native aqua version of Chimera 1.5.3 on Mac OS X 10.6, and it seems that the "tear off" feature of the menus is not available, though I was previously able to do that when running the X window version of Chimera. Is there a way to use the menu "tear off" feature in the native aqua version? Thanks! Jeff
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