Fwd: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Werner evwerner@gmail.com Subject: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave Date: May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
1) Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain. 2) Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> Subject: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave Date: May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
1) Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain. 2) Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> *Subject: **Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave* *Date: *May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Hi Eric, This a Mac setting, not a Chimera setting per se. Open System Preferences and go to the Accessibility category. In the Display section (and under the "Display" tab), turn on "Reduce transparency".
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 4:15 AM, Eric Werner evwerner@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
- Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain.
- Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> Subject: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave Date: May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Thank you very much, Eric. That helps a great deal! Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to help!
-Eric
On 5/27/21 5:09 AM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This a Mac setting, not a Chimera setting per se. Open System Preferences and go to the Accessibility category. In the Display section (and under the "Display" tab), turn on "Reduce transparency".
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 4:15 AM, Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
1) Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain. 2) Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> *Subject: **Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave* *Date: *May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Happy to help!
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 11:42 PM, Eric Werner evwerner@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you very much, Eric. That helps a great deal! Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to help!
-Eric
On 5/27/21 5:09 AM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This a Mac setting, not a Chimera setting per se. Open System Preferences and go to the Accessibility category. In the Display section (and under the "Display" tab), turn on "Reduce transparency".
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 4:15 AM, Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
- Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain.
- Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> Subject: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave Date: May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Hi again,
I do c++ programming using STL, Boost, OpenGL, physics, math and more using Visual Studio (VS2015) on Windows. If I want to contribute to Chimera development is an easy way to get a VS solution that then lets me compile Chimera directly on my machine?
Thanks for your help,
Eric
On 5/27/21 5:09 AM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This a Mac setting, not a Chimera setting per se. Open System Preferences and go to the Accessibility category. In the Display section (and under the "Display" tab), turn on "Reduce transparency".
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 4:15 AM, Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
1) Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain. 2) Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> *Subject: **Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave* *Date: *May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Hi Eric, Compiling Chimera is challenging for us, and would be even more so for an outside developer such as yourself. Nonetheless, the procedures for doing so and the challenges involved are discussed on this web page: Source Code for UCSF Chimera https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/sourcecode.html. I would recommend you investigate our new program ChimeraX. It was designed to be a lot more programmer friendly from the get go. It has much more documentation of APIs and how to build extensions than Chimera does -- particularly compiled extensions. It also has a git repository (https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX) that you could submit pull requests to if you wanted to directly add features to ChimeraX instead of creating a plugin.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On Jun 1, 2021, at 4:10 AM, Eric Werner evwerner@gmail.com wrote:
Hi again,
I do c++ programming using STL, Boost, OpenGL, physics, math and more using Visual Studio (VS2015) on Windows. If I want to contribute to Chimera development is an easy way to get a VS solution that then lets me compile Chimera directly on my machine?
Thanks for your help,
Eric
On 5/27/21 5:09 AM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This a Mac setting, not a Chimera setting per se. Open System Preferences and go to the Accessibility category. In the Display section (and under the "Display" tab), turn on "Reduce transparency".
--Eric
On May 26, 2021, at 4:15 AM, Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thank you for the info. You have great software. You are right I can see the menu with the in-window version. However, because the menu background it somewhat transparent it makes it more difficult to read. Granted I am a bit visually impaired.
Is there a way to make the menu background nontransparent?
Thanks for your time and help.
Eric
On 5/25/21 6:25 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote:
Hi Eric, This is a current limitation of the Tk windowing toolkit that Chimera uses. Perhaps future versions of the toolkit will fix this, but for now that's the way it is. Your two options are:
- Don't use dark mode when using Chimera. That might be a pain.
- Use the in-window version of the menus rather than the ones at the top of the screen. The in-window menus don't suffer from this problem.
There is also sort of a third option: use our new program ChimeraX. It doesn't suffer from this problem.
--Eric
Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
On May 25, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Eric Werner <evwerner@gmail.com mailto:evwerner@gmail.com> Subject: Cannot see menus on MacBook Mojave Date: May 24, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM PDT
Hi,
Chimera is great. However in the latest download for the Mac, I can no longer see the menus when in Dark Mode on my Macbook Pro using Mojave.
In the attached file you can see the the transparent background of the menu drop down list makes it even harder.
Is there a solution to adjust the menu text and background color and making the menu background opaque?
Thank you for your help.
Eric
<ChimeraMenus.png>
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Eric Werner