Dear Users and Developers,

I have a ViewdockX question (but I guess it's a more generic one, about coloring models/submodels): is there a trick to color docking results by rank, like rank was some sort of B-factor?  Or even by docking energy (score), but that's maybe too much. I could color each "submodel" by hand, but I don't know how to obtain color gradients, say distributed at even distances between blue and red.

Years ago I was able to do similar trick in Chimera, but I completely forgot how I did that :(

Thank you,

Vis



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  1. independent centers of rotation (Elaine Meng)
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  3. Re: Change the directory for data fetched from databases
      (Tom Goddard)
  4. Re: Change the directory for data fetched from databases
      (Guillaume Gaullier)
  5. Re: Change the directory for data fetched from databases
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  6. Re: Change the directory for data fetched from databases
      (Guillaume Gaullier)
  7. PDB: 7OVR (Veler, Hana (NIH/NCI) [F])
  8. Re: PDB: 7OVR (Elaine Meng)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:51:58 -0800
From: Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu>
To: Abigail Jackson <ajackson@scripps.edu>
Cc: "chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: [chimerax-users] independent centers of rotation
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Hi Abigail,
Ah, you're referring to the "independent centers of rotation" mode in Chimera.  By default, the "tile" command in Chimera automatically turns it on.
<https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/tile.html>

I agree that this mode is very useful, but unfortunately it does not yet exist in ChimeraX.  It is listed in the missing features section of the ChimeraX download page.
<https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/download.html>

Sorry about that,
Elaine
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UCSF Chimera(X) team
Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
University of California, San Francisco

> On Dec 15, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Abigail Jackson via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I have a question regarding the tile function in ChimeraX. In the original Chimera, once multiple maps were tiled they would all rotate individually and the grid itself was fixed in space. In ChimeraX, however, once maps are tiled the entire grid rotates as a unit and the individual maps are fixed. Do you know if there is an option to have the maps spin individually instead, like in the original Chimera?

> Hopefully that description makes sense. Thank you in advance for your help!
> Best,
> Abigail Jackson
> The Scripps Research Institute




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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 10:08:26 +0000
From: Guillaume Gaullier <guillaume.gaullier@icm.uu.se>
To: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched from
    databases
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Hello,

The documentation for the open command says "Web-fetched data are stored locally in ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/ (where ~ indicates a user's home directory)". Is there a way to change this directory? I couldn?t find one in the settings window, but maybe a command could do that? (in that case I would simply need to add this command to the startup commands).

The use case I have in mind is to share the ChimeraX cache between all accounts on a multi-user workstation (so, relocate the cache at some place like /data/ChimeraX).

Thank you,

Guillaume









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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:50:25 -0800
From: Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net>
To: Guillaume Gaullier <guillaume.gaullier@icm.uu.se>
Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched
    from databases
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Hi Guillaume,

  There is no setting to change the location where ChimeraX caches fetched files.  It is always

    ~/Downloads/ChimeraX

On a multi-user workstation is the idea that every person would change the ChimeraX setting to point to a common cache directory?  Will people cooperate with that?  Each person of course has their own ChimeraX settings.  Everyone will also need write access to that directory.  There are no site-wide settings in ChimeraX.

You could modify the ChimeraX application file, a file in the distribution (here's the path for Linux)

    chimerax/lib/python3.9/site-packages/chimerax/core/fetch.py

making

    _cache_dirs = ['/usr/local/chimerax_fetch']

near the top would I think change to use that directory.  Of course each time you install a new ChimeraX it would need such a change, and if individual users install their own ChimeraX version it will use ~/Downloads/ChimeraX.

    Tom


> On Dec 16, 2021, at 2:08 AM, Guillaume Gaullier via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The documentation for the open command says "Web-fetched data are stored locally in ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/ (where ~ indicates a user's home directory)". Is there a way to change this directory? I couldn?t find one in the settings window, but maybe a command could do that? (in that case I would simply need to add this command to the startup commands).
>
> The use case I have in mind is to share the ChimeraX cache between all accounts on a multi-user workstation (so, relocate the cache at some place like /data/ChimeraX).
>
> Thank you,
>
> Guillaume
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 08:40:06 +0000
From: Guillaume Gaullier <guillaume.gaullier@icm.uu.se>
To: Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net>
Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched
    from databases
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Hi Tom,

This is the use case I had in mind indeed. Model files are small enough that duplication doesn?t matter, but a shared cache for maps could be convenient. I was simply asking in case there was a supported way to achieve this that I had missed in the documentation, but I can absolutely live with the current default.

Thank you for your answer.
Cheers,

Guillaume


On 16 Dec 2021, at 23:50, Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote:

Hi Guillaume,

There is no setting to change the location where ChimeraX caches fetched files.  It is always

~/Downloads/ChimeraX

On a multi-user workstation is the idea that every person would change the ChimeraX setting to point to a common cache directory?  Will people cooperate with that?  Each person of course has their own ChimeraX settings.  Everyone will also need write access to that directory.  There are no site-wide settings in ChimeraX.

You could modify the ChimeraX application file, a file in the distribution (here's the path for Linux)

chimerax/lib/python3.9/site-packages/chimerax/core/fetch.py

making

_cache_dirs = ['/usr/local/chimerax_fetch']

near the top would I think change to use that directory.  Of course each time you install a new ChimeraX it would need such a change, and if individual users install their own ChimeraX version it will use ~/Downloads/ChimeraX.

Tom


On Dec 16, 2021, at 2:08 AM, Guillaume Gaullier via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

The documentation for the open command says "Web-fetched data are stored locally in ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/ (where ~ indicates a user's home directory)". Is there a way to change this directory? I couldn?t find one in the settings window, but maybe a command could do that? (in that case I would simply need to add this command to the startup commands).

The use case I have in mind is to share the ChimeraX cache between all accounts on a multi-user workstation (so, relocate the cache at some place like /data/ChimeraX).

Thank you,

Guillaume









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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:11:45 +0000
From: Tristan Croll <tic20@cam.ac.uk>
To: goddard <goddard@sonic.net>, Guillaume Gaullier
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Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched
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An alternative approach which doesn't involve modifying ChimeraX (but still requires action in each user account) would be to simply symlink ~/Downloads/ChimeraX to the centralised location.

-- Tristan
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To: goddard <goddard@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched from databases

Hi Tom,

This is the use case I had in mind indeed. Model files are small enough that duplication doesn?t matter, but a shared cache for maps could be convenient. I was simply asking in case there was a supported way to achieve this that I had missed in the documentation, but I can absolutely live with the current default.

Thank you for your answer.
Cheers,

Guillaume


On 16 Dec 2021, at 23:50, Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote:

Hi Guillaume,

There is no setting to change the location where ChimeraX caches fetched files.  It is always

~/Downloads/ChimeraX

On a multi-user workstation is the idea that every person would change the ChimeraX setting to point to a common cache directory?  Will people cooperate with that?  Each person of course has their own ChimeraX settings.  Everyone will also need write access to that directory.  There are no site-wide settings in ChimeraX.

You could modify the ChimeraX application file, a file in the distribution (here's the path for Linux)

chimerax/lib/python3.9/site-packages/chimerax/core/fetch.py

making

_cache_dirs = ['/usr/local/chimerax_fetch']

near the top would I think change to use that directory.  Of course each time you install a new ChimeraX it would need such a change, and if individual users install their own ChimeraX version it will use ~/Downloads/ChimeraX.

Tom


On Dec 16, 2021, at 2:08 AM, Guillaume Gaullier via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

The documentation for the open command says "Web-fetched data are stored locally in ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/ (where ~ indicates a user's home directory)". Is there a way to change this directory? I couldn?t find one in the settings window, but maybe a command could do that? (in that case I would simply need to add this command to the startup commands).

The use case I have in mind is to share the ChimeraX cache between all accounts on a multi-user workstation (so, relocate the cache at some place like /data/ChimeraX).

Thank you,

Guillaume









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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:14:32 +0000
From: Guillaume Gaullier <guillaume.gaullier@icm.uu.se>
To: Tristan Croll <tic20@CAM.AC.UK>
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Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched
    from databases
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Very simple indeed, I should have thought of that first. Thank you Tristan. :-)

Guillaume


On 17 Dec 2021, at 10:11, Tristan Croll <tic20@CAM.AC.UK<mailto:tic20@CAM.AC.UK>> wrote:

An alternative approach which doesn't involve modifying ChimeraX (but still requires action in each user account) would be to simply symlink ~/Downloads/ChimeraX to the centralised location.

-- Tristan
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From: ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users-bounces@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users-bounces@cgl.ucsf.edu>> on behalf of Guillaume Gaullier via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>>
Sent: 17 December 2021 08:40
To: goddard <goddard@sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net>>
Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>>
Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Change the directory for data fetched from databases

Hi Tom,

This is the use case I had in mind indeed. Model files are small enough that duplication doesn?t matter, but a shared cache for maps could be convenient. I was simply asking in case there was a supported way to achieve this that I had missed in the documentation, but I can absolutely live with the current default.

Thank you for your answer.
Cheers,

Guillaume


On 16 Dec 2021, at 23:50, Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote:

Hi Guillaume,

There is no setting to change the location where ChimeraX caches fetched files.  It is always

~/Downloads/ChimeraX

On a multi-user workstation is the idea that every person would change the ChimeraX setting to point to a common cache directory?  Will people cooperate with that?  Each person of course has their own ChimeraX settings.  Everyone will also need write access to that directory.  There are no site-wide settings in ChimeraX.

You could modify the ChimeraX application file, a file in the distribution (here's the path for Linux)

chimerax/lib/python3.9/site-packages/chimerax/core/fetch.py

making

_cache_dirs = ['/usr/local/chimerax_fetch']

near the top would I think change to use that directory.  Of course each time you install a new ChimeraX it would need such a change, and if individual users install their own ChimeraX version it will use ~/Downloads/ChimeraX.

Tom


On Dec 16, 2021, at 2:08 AM, Guillaume Gaullier via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

The documentation for the open command says "Web-fetched data are stored locally in ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/ (where ~ indicates a user's home directory)". Is there a way to change this directory? I couldn?t find one in the settings window, but maybe a command could do that? (in that case I would simply need to add this command to the startup commands).

The use case I have in mind is to share the ChimeraX cache between all accounts on a multi-user workstation (so, relocate the cache at some place like /data/ChimeraX).

Thank you,

Guillaume









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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:18:57 +0000
From: "Veler, Hana (NIH/NCI) [F]" <hana.veler@nih.gov>
To: "chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: [chimerax-users] PDB: 7OVR
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To whom it may concern,

The command ?show sel atoms? does not work in the 7OVR structure and I was wondering how can I fix this? I wanted to show certain residues as atoms in the structure. When I open other structures, e.g. 5FMM, the command works perfectly fine.

Would you know what could be the cause?

Thanks,
Hana
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:23:32 -0800
From: Elaine Meng <meng@cgl.ucsf.edu>
To: "Veler, Hana (NIH/NCI) [F]" <hana.veler@nih.gov>
Cc: "chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] PDB: 7OVR
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Hello Hana,
I can't tell what you have selected, so it is impossible to say.  Remember, the "sel" in the command means the current selection.  Do you have any atoms selected?

Also, when I open structure 7ovr in ChimeraX, all of the atoms are shown already. 

I hope this helps,
Elaine
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UCSF Chimera(X) team
Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
University of California, San Francisco

> On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Veler, Hana (NIH/NCI) [F] via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> To whom it may concern,

> The command ?show sel atoms? does not work in the 7OVR structure and I was wondering how can I fix this? I wanted to show certain residues as atoms in the structure. When I open other structures, e.g. 5FMM, the command works perfectly fine.

> Would you know what could be the cause?

> Thanks,
> Hana   




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