Dear all I got a pdb and a mtz file (from phenix.maps) with: Number of columns: 11 label #valid %valid min max type H 23487 100.00% 0.00 56.00 H: index h,k,l K 23487 100.00% 0.00 39.00 H: index h,k,l L 23487 100.00% 0.00 26.00 H: index h,k,l 2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees 2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.00 836.89 F: amplitude PHFOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees ANOM 19860 84.56% 0.00 149.58 F: amplitude PHANOM 19860 84.56% -179.97 179.99 P: phase angle in degrees (as reported by phenix.mtz.dump) I open both in chimerax with open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1.pdb open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1_map_coeffs.mtz structureModel #1 (clipper already installed) If I do tools->structure analysis->check waters and choose the model (now id #1.2) and the 2fofc map (#1.1.1.2) I got a warning saying "Some (or all) atoms lie outside the volume, continue anyway?" If I continue anyway... some waters with density do have a 0 in the density column... This is, I think, because by default the density is not displayed around all atoms of the model (huge models would crash the computer, right?).. so maybe I just need to show the density around all the atoms in the model... How do I do that? (I thought that 'volume unzone' was the magic command but that only shows a bigger cube of density around the center of rotation, instead of the smaller sphere of density). Thanks
Hello, My guess is that this has nothing to do with display, but instead that some atoms are outside the entire rectangular box of your volume data grid. Probably you just need to extend the box (based on the periodicity of the map) to cover the atoms, which can be done with command "volume cover", see: <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/volume.html#cover> As far as I know there would not be a zone on the map unless you have previously applied "volume zone" or the corresponding toolbar icon or mouse mode: <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/volume.html#zone> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Jul 1, 2025, at 9:35 AM, Murpholino Peligro via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Dear all I got a pdb and a mtz file (from phenix.maps) with:
Number of columns: 11 label #valid %valid min max type H 23487 100.00% 0.00 56.00 H: index h,k,l K 23487 100.00% 0.00 39.00 H: index h,k,l L 23487 100.00% 0.00 26.00 H: index h,k,l 2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees 2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.00 836.89 F: amplitude PHFOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees ANOM 19860 84.56% 0.00 149.58 F: amplitude PHANOM 19860 84.56% -179.97 179.99 P: phase angle in degrees
(as reported by phenix.mtz.dump) I open both in chimerax with open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1.pdb open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1_map_coeffs.mtz structureModel #1 (clipper already installed) If I do tools->structure analysis->check waters and choose the model (now id #1.2) and the 2fofc map (#1.1.1.2) I got a warning saying "Some (or all) atoms lie outside the volume, continue anyway?" If I continue anyway... some waters with density do have a 0 in the density column...
This is, I think, because by default the density is not displayed around all atoms of the model (huge models would crash the computer, right?).. so maybe I just need to show the density around all the atoms in the model... How do I do that? (I thought that 'volume unzone' was the magic command but that only shows a bigger cube of density around the center of rotation, instead of the smaller sphere of density).
Thanks
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Thanks a lot!! volume cover #1.1.1.2 atom_box #1.2 was what I needed before check waters :) El mar, 1 jul 2025 a la(s) 5:59 p.m., Elaine Meng (meng@cgl.ucsf.edu) escribió:
Hello, My guess is that this has nothing to do with display, but instead that some atoms are outside the entire rectangular box of your volume data grid. Probably you just need to extend the box (based on the periodicity of the map) to cover the atoms, which can be done with command "volume cover", see:
<https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/volume.html#cover>
As far as I know there would not be a zone on the map unless you have previously applied "volume zone" or the corresponding toolbar icon or mouse mode:
<https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/volume.html#zone>
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Jul 1, 2025, at 9:35 AM, Murpholino Peligro via ChimeraX-users < chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Dear all I got a pdb and a mtz file (from phenix.maps) with:
Number of columns: 11 label #valid %valid min max type H 23487 100.00% 0.00 56.00 H: index h,k,l K 23487 100.00% 0.00 39.00 H: index h,k,l L 23487 100.00% 0.00 26.00 H: index h,k,l 2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees 2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% 0.01 1113.30 F: amplitude PH2FOFCWT_fill 23487 100.00% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees FOFCWT 23337 99.36% 0.00 836.89 F: amplitude PHFOFCWT 23337 99.36% -180.00 180.00 P: phase angle in degrees ANOM 19860 84.56% 0.00 149.58 F: amplitude PHANOM 19860 84.56% -179.97 179.99 P: phase angle in degrees
(as reported by phenix.mtz.dump) I open both in chimerax with open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1.pdb open /home/murph/doc/pdbs/mol1/mol1_map_coeffs.mtz structureModel #1 (clipper already installed) If I do tools->structure analysis->check waters and choose the model (now id #1.2) and the 2fofc map (#1.1.1.2) I got a warning saying "Some (or all) atoms lie outside the volume, continue anyway?" If I continue anyway... some waters with density do have a 0 in the density column...
This is, I think, because by default the density is not displayed around all atoms of the model (huge models would crash the computer, right?).. so maybe I just need to show the density around all the atoms in the model... How do I do that? (I thought that 'volume unzone' was the magic command but that only shows a bigger cube of density around the center of rotation, instead of the smaller sphere of density).
Thanks
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