Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
Hi Tianming, No -- they are different kinds of data. MRC is a density-map format, PDB is an atomic structure format. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 5, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
Hello,
As Elaine said, you cannot "convert" between the two formats because they represent different things (a volume, atomic coordinates).
But you can generate a volume from atomic coordinates with the molmap command (think of it as producing a synthetic density map of the molecule): https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/molmap.html https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/molmap.html
The inverse task of building an atomic model from a volume and a sequence, in an automated way, is still an open problem. But research on this problem is making fast progress these days, see for instance https://github.com/3dem/model-angelo https://github.com/3dem/model-angelo
Cheers,
Guillaume
On 5 Oct 2022, at 17:37, Elaine Meng via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi Tianming, No -- they are different kinds of data. MRC is a density-map format, PDB is an atomic structure format. Best, Elaine
Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 5, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
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Hi, Thanks for the response.
One more question, how does the chimeraX calculate out the volume of a density map? I mean, I know how to do this operation through the tools-volume-measure volume, but I am curious what is the source code chimeraX used to calculate this volume.
Best, Tianming 发件人: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu 日期: 星期三, 2022年10月5日 上午11:37 收件人: Tianming Qu tqu@fsu.edu 抄送: Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu 主题: Re: [chimerax-users] mrc to pdb Hi Tianming, No -- they are different kinds of data. MRC is a density-map format, PDB is an atomic structure format. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 5, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
Hi Tianming,
It is pretty simple to compute the enclosed volume of a closed triangulated surface. But the ChimeraX code is a bit more complicated because it finds any holes in the surface and tries to cap them off. Here is the Python code for the ChimeraX measure volume command on github
https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/develop/src/bundles/surface/src/area.p... https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/develop/src/bundles/surface/src/area.py
(it is also distributed with your ChimeraX distribution, e.g. on Mac in ChimeraX.app/Contents/lib/python3.9/site-packages/chimerax/surface/area.py). The actual calculation is done in C++ for speed and called from Python and that C++ code is on github here
https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/develop/src/bundles/surface/_surface/m... https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/develop/src/bundles/surface/_surface/measure.cpp
The Chimera Programming Manual has a list of the commands and documentation for the corresponding Python functions. But "measure volume" is not yet documented.
https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/devel/bundles/core/src/commands/user_...
Tom
On Oct 6, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the response.
One more question, how does the chimeraX calculate out the volume of a density map? I mean, I know how to do this operation through the tools-volume-measure volume, but I am curious what is the source code chimeraX used to calculate this volume.
Best, Tianming 发件人: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu 日期: 星期三, 2022年10月5日 上午11:37 收件人: Tianming Qu tqu@fsu.edu 抄送: Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu 主题: Re: [chimerax-users] mrc to pdb
Hi Tianming, No -- they are different kinds of data. MRC is a density-map format, PDB is an atomic structure format. Best, Elaine
Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 5, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
ChimeraX-users mailing list ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Manage subscription: https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users
There are, however, ways to do this in other programs where some points are fit to the density and can be used as pseudo-atoms in a pdb file e.g., Scipion/XMIPP, ProDy, TEMPy, IMP, and probably others.
Best wishes James
Elaine Meng via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu escribió:
Hi Tianming, No -- they are different kinds of data. MRC is a density-map format, PDB is an atomic structure format. Best, Elaine
Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 5, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Tianming Qu via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera?
Best, Tianming
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Elaine Meng
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Guillaume Gaullier
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JAMES MICHAEL KRIEGER
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Tianming Qu
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Tom Goddard