Hi all, Not sure whether this is a ChimeraX question, or an ISOLDE question, or a bit of both. I am using ChimeraX 1.0 (2020-06-04) and ISOLDE version ChimeraX_ISOLDE-1.0.1-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_13_x86_64.whl. When I start ChimeraX, I get the following left mouse bindings, which I believe are default: - ctrl-left click = select - shift-ctrl-left click = select add When I just start ISOLDE via the GUI menu (no further action), this seems to clear the mousemode. Or, at least, ctrl-click does not select anymore, and shift-ctrl-click also doesn't seem to do anything. To remedy this, I issue the following commands: mousemode control left select mousemode control shift left 'select add' This restores ctrl-left to 'select' as expected, but shift-ctrl-left also triggers 'select', not 'select add'. Couple of questions: (1) Is ISOLDE intentionally overriding mousemode when it is launched? I'm 99.9% this didn't use to be the case pre-1.0... (2) How do I restore shift-ctrl-left to 'select add'? I assume I am getting the syntax wrong, but I did read the doc and thought I was following it, so I guess I need some help understanding the syntax. Cheers, Alexis
Hmm... that sounds problematic. ISOLDE *does* use a customised select mouse mode that limits mouse selections to atoms*, bonds and ribbons from ISOLDE’s currently-selected model. Could this be throwing you off? — Tristan * an approach that made sense at the time (around 2 years ago)... now that things are more mature perhaps it’s time I looked at making ISOLDE play nicely with the default select mode.
On 6 Sep 2020, at 19:29, Alexis Rohou <a.rohou@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure whether this is a ChimeraX question, or an ISOLDE question, or a bit of both.
I am using ChimeraX 1.0 (2020-06-04) and ISOLDE version ChimeraX_ISOLDE-1.0.1-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_13_x86_64.whl.
When I start ChimeraX, I get the following left mouse bindings, which I believe are default: - ctrl-left click = select - shift-ctrl-left click = select add
When I just start ISOLDE via the GUI menu (no further action), this seems to clear the mousemode. Or, at least, ctrl-click does not select anymore, and shift-ctrl-click also doesn't seem to do anything.
To remedy this, I issue the following commands: mousemode control left select mousemode control shift left 'select add'
This restores ctrl-left to 'select' as expected, but shift-ctrl-left also triggers 'select', not 'select add'.
Couple of questions: (1) Is ISOLDE intentionally overriding mousemode when it is launched? I'm 99.9% this didn't use to be the case pre-1.0... (2) How do I restore shift-ctrl-left to 'select add'? I assume I am getting the syntax wrong, but I did read the doc and thought I was following it, so I guess I need some help understanding the syntax.
Cheers, Alexis
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Hi Tristan, I think you hit the nail on the head. I should have tried to reproduce this with a simpler setup with a single model before asking for help! This is the first time I am working with a multi-model setup (single PDB, multiple models), and indeed this is what threw me off. So I think I will manipulate my PDB to have everything in a single model - will make my life easier I think. I guess it would be nicer if mousemode worked as expected... but I can see how that might be tricky if the user selects outside of the model ISOLDE's currently dealing with. Thanks! Alexis On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:29 PM Tristan Croll <tic20@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
Hmm... that sounds problematic. ISOLDE *does* use a customised select mouse mode that limits mouse selections to atoms*, bonds and ribbons from ISOLDE’s currently-selected model. Could this be throwing you off?
— Tristan
* an approach that made sense at the time (around 2 years ago)... now that things are more mature perhaps it’s time I looked at making ISOLDE play nicely with the default select mode.
On 6 Sep 2020, at 19:29, Alexis Rohou <a.rohou@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure whether this is a ChimeraX question, or an ISOLDE question, or a bit of both.
I am using ChimeraX 1.0 (2020-06-04) and ISOLDE version ChimeraX_ISOLDE-1.0.1-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_13_x86_64.whl.
When I start ChimeraX, I get the following left mouse bindings, which I believe are default: - ctrl-left click = select - shift-ctrl-left click = select add
When I just start ISOLDE via the GUI menu (no further action), this seems to clear the mousemode. Or, at least, ctrl-click does not select anymore, and shift-ctrl-click also doesn't seem to do anything.
To remedy this, I issue the following commands: mousemode control left select mousemode control shift left 'select add'
This restores ctrl-left to 'select' as expected, but shift-ctrl-left also triggers 'select', not 'select add'.
Couple of questions: (1) Is ISOLDE intentionally overriding mousemode when it is launched? I'm 99.9% this didn't use to be the case pre-1.0... (2) How do I restore shift-ctrl-left to 'select add'? I assume I am getting the syntax wrong, but I did read the doc and thought I was following it, so I guess I need some help understanding the syntax.
Cheers, Alexis
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Hi Alexis, Sounds like the problem is solved. Aside from the ISOLDE override, your "mousemode" commands do look correct. Also I believe that simply assigning "select" to a new button will automatically make the addition of Shift to that assignment into "select toggle" (add if not yet selected, subtract if already selected). For example, assigning right-mouse to "select" then changes Shift-right-mouse to toggle selection, without my having to explicitly assign it. However, that only works if the assignment of Shift + the "select" button(s) is "none"... if you assigned it to something else, it won't automatically toggle select. Elaine
On Sep 6, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Alexis Rohou <a.rohou@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tristan,
I think you hit the nail on the head. I should have tried to reproduce this with a simpler setup with a single model before asking for help! This is the first time I am working with a multi-model setup (single PDB, multiple models), and indeed this is what threw me off.
So I think I will manipulate my PDB to have everything in a single model - will make my life easier I think.
I guess it would be nicer if mousemode worked as expected... but I can see how that might be tricky if the user selects outside of the model ISOLDE's currently dealing with.
Thanks! Alexis
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:29 PM Tristan Croll <tic20@cam.ac.uk> wrote: Hmm... that sounds problematic. ISOLDE *does* use a customised select mouse mode that limits mouse selections to atoms*, bonds and ribbons from ISOLDE’s currently-selected model. Could this be throwing you off?
— Tristan
* an approach that made sense at the time (around 2 years ago)... now that things are more mature perhaps it’s time I looked at making ISOLDE play nicely with the default select mode.
On 6 Sep 2020, at 19:29, Alexis Rohou <a.rohou@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Not sure whether this is a ChimeraX question, or an ISOLDE question, or a bit of both.
I am using ChimeraX 1.0 (2020-06-04) and ISOLDE version ChimeraX_ISOLDE-1.0.1-cp37-cp37m-macosx_10_13_x86_64.whl.
When I start ChimeraX, I get the following left mouse bindings, which I believe are default: - ctrl-left click = select - shift-ctrl-left click = select add
When I just start ISOLDE via the GUI menu (no further action), this seems to clear the mousemode. Or, at least, ctrl-click does not select anymore, and shift-ctrl-click also doesn't seem to do anything.
To remedy this, I issue the following commands: mousemode control left select mousemode control shift left 'select add'
This restores ctrl-left to 'select' as expected, but shift-ctrl-left also triggers 'select', not 'select add'.
Couple of questions: (1) Is ISOLDE intentionally overriding mousemode when it is launched? I'm 99.9% this didn't use to be the case pre-1.0... (2) How do I restore shift-ctrl-left to 'select add'? I assume I am getting the syntax wrong, but I did read the doc and thought I was following it, so I guess I need some help understanding the syntax.
Cheers, Alexis
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