Show side chain, main chain, and cartoon at the same time
Dear colleagues I am new to ChimeraX. I am trying to figure out how to show side chain, main chain, and cartoon at the same time in a protein structure. Like the one below made in other software. Could you please help? [cid:image001.png@01D9D154.CE3D4440] Best, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Miao Zhang Ph.D. Associate Professor Chapman University School of Pharmacy 9401 Jeronimo Rd, Suite 297W Irvine, CA 92618 Phone: 714-516-5478 http://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/miao-zhang
Dear Miao Zhang, It is easy to show cartoons and sidechain atoms for any residues that you want (e.g. with "cartoon" and "show" commands or by clicking the toolbar icons that display cartoons and atoms, respectively). However, the tricky part is that if you want to also show mainchain, you have to use the option "suppress false" with "cartoon" command because normally cartoon will prevent showing mainchain.
Here is an example to show sidechain + mainchain + cartoon in potassium channel structure 1bl8. Commands below with "..." to mean explanations that are not commands:
open 1bl8
... by default it already shows the atoms near the ions but you can hide all atoms first to start from a clean state
hide
... select residues near ions (4.0 angstroms in this example) and then show their atoms ... at first only sidechain will be shown
select ions :<4.0 show sel
... now use the cartoon option to also show mainchain at same time, and then clear the selection
cartoon suppress false ~sel
... you could also just give chain ID and residue numbers instead of using a selection zone, for example residues 30-38 of chain D. The cartoon is already in the suppress-false state so you don't have to give that command again:
show /D:30-38
... Even though suppress false is turned on, you don't *have* to show mainchain. This setting just allows you to hide/show those atoms as you wish. So you can still hide the main chain atoms where you don't want to see them, for example:
hide /D:30-38@n,c,o
... (you still need to keep the CA atoms shown or else the side chains will not be attached)
See help pages for all the commands above in the User Guide for more details. https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/index.html
You may also want to try some tutorials to become more familiar with ChimeraX: https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/tutorials.html
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:50 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear colleagues I am new to ChimeraX. I am trying to figure out how to show side chain, main chain, and cartoon at the same time in a protein structure. Like the one below made in other software. Could you please help? <image001.png> Best,
Miao Zhang Ph.D. Associate Professor Chapman University School of Pharmacy 9401 Jeronimo Rd, Suite 297W Irvine, CA 92618 Phone: 714-516-5478 http://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/miao-zhang
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Thanks so much. That worked. Another question. When colored by elements, the color of carbons in side chains is different from the cartoons. Any chance I can change the color of carbons to the same color as the cartoons. [cid:image001.png@01D9D477.8B757DF0]
From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:19 AM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Show side chain, main chain, and cartoon at the same time External Message
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Dear Miao Zhang, It is easy to show cartoons and sidechain atoms for any residues that you want (e.g. with "cartoon" and "show" commands or by clicking the toolbar icons that display cartoons and atoms, respectively). However, the tricky part is that if you want to also show mainchain, you have to use the option "suppress false" with "cartoon" command because normally cartoon will prevent showing mainchain.
Here is an example to show sidechain + mainchain + cartoon in potassium channel structure 1bl8. Commands below with "..." to mean explanations that are not commands:
open 1bl8
... by default it already shows the atoms near the ions but you can hide all atoms first to start from a clean state
hide
... select residues near ions (4.0 angstroms in this example) and then show their atoms ... at first only sidechain will be shown
select ions :<4.0 show sel
... now use the cartoon option to also show mainchain at same time, and then clear the selection
cartoon suppress false ~sel
... you could also just give chain ID and residue numbers instead of using a selection zone, for example residues 30-38 of chain D. The cartoon is already in the suppress-false state so you don't have to give that command again:
show /D:30-38
... Even though suppress false is turned on, you don't *have* to show mainchain. This setting just allows you to hide/show those atoms as you wish. So you can still hide the main chain atoms where you don't want to see them, for example:
hide /D:30-38@n,c,o
... (you still need to keep the CA atoms shown or else the side chains will not be attached)
See help pages for all the commands above in the User Guide for more details. <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/index.html>
You may also want to try some tutorials to become more familiar with ChimeraX: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbvi.u...https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/tutorials.html>
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:50 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear colleagues I am new to ChimeraX. I am trying to figure out how to show side chain, main chain, and cartoon at the same time in a protein structure. Like the one below made in other software. Could you please help? <image001.png> Best,
Miao Zhang Ph.D. Associate Professor Chapman University School of Pharmacy 9401 Jeronimo Rd, Suite 297W Irvine, CA 92618 Phone: 714-516-5478 http://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/miao-zhang
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Dear Miao Zhang, If the cartoons are the model color, the easy way to keep the carbon atoms the same color is to avoid using "color byelement" and instead use "color byhet" which will color only the non-carbon atoms.
But if it is too late for that and too late for undo, yes, you can color just the carbon atoms any color you want. I don't know how you colored the cartoons but you would need to know their color so you can use the same one. If the cartoons are "sky blue," then you could color carbon atoms the same way, for example, command:
color C sky blue target a
The "C" is the element symbol for carbon.
If you don't know what color the cartoons are exactly (don't know name of color) you can try selecting part of the cartoon with Ctrl-click and then using the Selection Inspector tool (click green magnifing glass icon on top bar). In Selection Inspector, change from Inspect: Atoms to Inspect: Residues, which will then include "cartoon color" as a square. Click the square to open the system color editor showing that color. Usually the system color editor will include some way of seeing the hex code, in this case #87CEEB, which could also be used in a command:
color C #87CEEB target a
You can color cartoons and atoms at the same time with "target ac":
color C orange red target ac
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Aug 21, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Thanks so much. That worked. Another question. When colored by elements, the color of carbons in side chains is different from the cartoons. Any chance I can change the color of carbons to the same color as the cartoons. <image001.png>
How can I change the size of spheres? Two of them look too close, when shown with spheres. [cid:image001.png@01D9F25E.99BA47B0]
From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:59 AM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Coloring carbons to match cartoon External Message
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Dear Miao Zhang, If the cartoons are the model color, the easy way to keep the carbon atoms the same color is to avoid using "color byelement" and instead use "color byhet" which will color only the non-carbon atoms.
But if it is too late for that and too late for undo, yes, you can color just the carbon atoms any color you want. I don't know how you colored the cartoons but you would need to know their color so you can use the same one. If the cartoons are "sky blue," then you could color carbon atoms the same way, for example, command:
color C sky blue target a
The "C" is the element symbol for carbon.
If you don't know what color the cartoons are exactly (don't know name of color) you can try selecting part of the cartoon with Ctrl-click and then using the Selection Inspector tool (click green magnifing glass icon on top bar). In Selection Inspector, change from Inspect: Atoms to Inspect: Residues, which will then include "cartoon color" as a square. Click the square to open the system color editor showing that color. Usually the system color editor will include some way of seeing the hex code, in this case #87CEEB, which could also be used in a command:
color C #87CEEB target a
You can color cartoons and atoms at the same time with "target ac":
color C orange red target ac
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Aug 21, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Thanks so much. That worked. Another question. When colored by elements, the color of carbons in side chains is different from the cartoons. Any chance I can change the color of carbons to the same color as the cartoons. <image001.png>
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How do we show the disulfide bond in ChimeraX? We refined two structures from the same cryoEM dataset. One structure shows this specific disulfide bond directly in ChimeraX. The other does not show the disulfide bond. How can we force it to show?
[cid:image002.png@01D9F29A.0E940F90] From: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Date: Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:53 PM To: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Cc: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: Coloring carbons to match cartoon How can I change the size of spheres? Two of them look too close, when shown with spheres. [cid:image001.png@01D9F25E.99BA47B0]
From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:59 AM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Coloring carbons to match cartoon External Message
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Dear Miao Zhang, If the cartoons are the model color, the easy way to keep the carbon atoms the same color is to avoid using "color byelement" and instead use "color byhet" which will color only the non-carbon atoms.
But if it is too late for that and too late for undo, yes, you can color just the carbon atoms any color you want. I don't know how you colored the cartoons but you would need to know their color so you can use the same one. If the cartoons are "sky blue," then you could color carbon atoms the same way, for example, command:
color C sky blue target a
The "C" is the element symbol for carbon.
If you don't know what color the cartoons are exactly (don't know name of color) you can try selecting part of the cartoon with Ctrl-click and then using the Selection Inspector tool (click green magnifing glass icon on top bar). In Selection Inspector, change from Inspect: Atoms to Inspect: Residues, which will then include "cartoon color" as a square. Click the square to open the system color editor showing that color. Usually the system color editor will include some way of seeing the hex code, in this case #87CEEB, which could also be used in a command:
color C #87CEEB target a
You can color cartoons and atoms at the same time with "target ac":
color C orange red target ac
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Aug 21, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Thanks so much. That worked. Another question. When colored by elements, the color of carbons in side chains is different from the cartoons. Any chance I can change the color of carbons to the same color as the cartoons. <image001.png>
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Dear Miao Zhang,
(1) showing disulfide bond. ChimeraX shows the bond if it is described in your input data, but doesn't automatically add more bonds. So the data file that shows the bond must already have a LINK or CONECT for that bond, whereas the other file that does not have the bond information. However, you can add the bond yourself, for example, using the command:
bond :cys@sg reasonable true
... if the distance is judged reasonable for the bond. This solution was mentioned on the chimera-users list if you want to see a specific example: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/thread/D2GBE5UEIU2XL4HEGW4TSPOPN765PKMQ/
(2) you can change the VDW radius of atom(s) in several ways, such as with the "size" command or using the Selection Inspector. Example commands using potassium channel:
open 1bl8 sel K
... if you open the Selection Inspector (menu Actions... Inspect, or click green magnifying glass icon) you can see the current radius is 1.370. You can change the radius by changing the number in the Selection Inspector, or using the "size" command, for example:
size sel atomRadius 1.2
https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/tools/inspector.html https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/size.html
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Sep 29, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
How do we show the disulfide bond in ChimeraX? We refined two structures from the same cryoEM dataset. One structure shows this specific disulfide bond directly in ChimeraX. The other does not show the disulfide bond. How can we force it to show?
<image002.png> From: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Date: Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:53 PM To: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Cc: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: Coloring carbons to match cartoon
How can I change the size of spheres? Two of them look too close, when shown with spheres. <image001.png>
Dear Sir/Madam When I made a figure with part of the chain shown as sticks, and part of it shown as cartoons, there is a gap between the cartoon and sticks. Is there a way to fix it? [cid:image001.png@01DA0757.7436F980] Best, Miao
Dear Miao, Details depend on whether the cartoon part is on the N-term side (lower residue numbers) or C-term side (higher residue numbers). If both, then you can combine the following answers.
If cartoon is on the N-term side, for example, residues 1-9 of 1gcn, you could show the C atom of the last cartoon residue (so that there will be bond to N of the first atoms residue):
open 1gcn hide cartoon cartoon :1-9 suppress false show :10-29 atoms show :9@c -- or maybe more atoms from residue 9 (if that looks better), for example -- show :9@c,ca
The "suppress false" is important because it allows showing backbone atoms for the same residues that are also shown as cartoon. The full option name is "suppressBackboneDisplay" but you can use the shorter version. See the help if you want more explanation: https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/cartoon.html
If cartoon is on the C-term side, for example, residues 10-29 of 1gcn, you could show the N atom of the first cartoon residue (so that there will be a bond to C of the last atoms residue):
open 1gcn hide cartoon cartoon :10-29 suppress false show :1-9 atoms show :10@n -- or maybe more atoms, as above -- show :10@n,ca
The reason to also show CA atoms from the cartoon residues is that the cartoon position will be close to CA but it might not be close to N or C. If the N or C is not close to the ribbon, you may see a small cone that connects it to the ribbon, which we call a "tether" .... and you can change tether color, shape, etc. or make it invisible (opacity 0 which means completely transparent) with the command "cartoon tether": https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/cartoon.html#tether
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 25, 2023, at 3:25 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam
When I made a figure with part of the chain shown as sticks, and part of it shown as cartoons, there is a gap between the cartoon and sticks. Is there a way to fix it?
<image001.png>
Best,
Miao
One minor correction... actually, you can't change the tether color -- it will be the same as the atom's color.
Elaine
On Oct 25, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Elaine Meng via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
The reason to also show CA atoms from the cartoon residues is that the cartoon position will be close to CA but it might not be close to N or C. If the N or C is not close to the ribbon, you may see a small cone that connects it to the ribbon, which we call a "tether" .... and you can change tether color, shape, etc. or make it invisible (opacity 0 which means completely transparent) with the command "cartoon tether": https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/cartoon.html#tether
How do I change the size of label “5.6 angstrom” of distance? Miao
From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 4:03 PM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: ChimeraX Users Help chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Gap between cartoon and stick External Message
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One minor correction... actually, you can't change the tether color -- it will be the same as the atom's color.
Elaine
On Oct 25, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Elaine Meng via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
The reason to also show CA atoms from the cartoon residues is that the cartoon position will be close to CA but it might not be close to N or C. If the N or C is not close to the ribbon, you may see a small cone that connects it to the ribbon, which we call a "tether" .... and you can change tether color, shape, etc. or make it invisible (opacity 0 which means completely transparent) with the command "cartoon tether": <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/cartoon.html#tether>
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Hi Miao, If you just want to make current labels bigger, either
(A) menu: Actions... Label.. Set Label Height
- or -
(B) the "label" command "height" option, e.g.
label height 2
(or whatever angstrom height you want). For details, see: https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html
Or if you want to set a preference for labels created in the future, see "label defaultHeight" https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html#defaultHeight
...or, you can do the same thing with the Preferences GUI, the Labels section: https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/preferences.html#labels
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
How do I change the size of label “5.6 angstrom” of distance? Miao
Dear Sir/Madam I have a small peptide that I want to show as cartoon. But chemira does not recognize it as a protein. I cannot show it as cartoon. I can only show it as surface, sphere, or sticks. How can I show cartoon? Many thanks Miao [cid:image001.png@01DA21EA.E87FBB80] From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, October 27, 2023 at 1:08 PM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: Tom Goddard via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: change label size External Message
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Hi Miao, If you just want to make current labels bigger, either
(A) menu: Actions... Label.. Set Label Height
- or -
(B) the "label" command "height" option, e.g.
label height 2
(or whatever angstrom height you want). For details, see: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html>
Or if you want to set a preference for labels created in the future, see "label defaultHeight" <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html#defaultHeight>
...or, you can do the same thing with the Preferences GUI, the Labels section: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/preferences.html#labels>
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
How do I change the size of label “5.6 angstrom” of distance? Miao
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Hi Miao, I can't figure out the issue unless you also provide the example PDB file... a picture is not enough information. If OK to share this data with others, you can send it to chimerax-users, or alternatively just to me.
Without the file, I can only guess that maybe the atom and residue names are not the usual atom and residue names for peptides/proteins.
Thanks, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Nov 28, 2023, at 11:06 AM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam I have a small peptide that I want to show as cartoon. But chemira does not recognize it as a protein. I cannot show it as cartoon. I can only show it as surface, sphere, or sticks. How can I show cartoon? Many thanks Miao <image001.png>
Summary of conclusions from seeing the data file:
(1) In Miao's PDB file, the atoms had the correct names for a peptide, but the entire circular peptide was a single HET residue named UNK, instead of a series of standard amino acid residues with separate residue names and numbers. Thus ChimeraX could not recognize it as a peptide.
(2) However, even for cyclic peptides that are in the correct format and are recognized as peptides (for example, 6ugc chain A), ChimeraX has a bug where it does not draw a closed loop for the cartoon. I think we have a ticket for this bug, although I failed to find it when I searched just now.
Chimera does not have this bug, and will draw a closed loop ribbon for 6ugc chain A.
Sorry about the difficulties, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Nov 28, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Elaine Meng via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Hi Miao, I can't figure out the issue unless you also provide the example PDB file... a picture is not enough information. If OK to share this data with others, you can send it to chimerax-users, or alternatively just to me.
Without the file, I can only guess that maybe the atom and residue names are not the usual atom and residue names for peptides/proteins.
Thanks, Elaine
Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Nov 28, 2023, at 11:06 AM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam I have a small peptide that I want to show as cartoon. But chemira does not recognize it as a protein. I cannot show it as cartoon. I can only show it as surface, sphere, or sticks. How can I show cartoon? Many thanks Miao <image001.png>
Dear Elaine We made figures using ChimeraX of the same protein. One structure with small molecule bound, one without. The cartoon style of the same region is shown differently in these two structures. How can we make them more consistent with each other? The cartoon style width is the same. [A close-up of a protein Description automatically generated]
[A close-up of several spirals Description automatically generated] From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, October 27, 2023 at 1:08 PM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: Tom Goddard via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: change label size External Message
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Hi Miao, If you just want to make current labels bigger, either
(A) menu: Actions... Label.. Set Label Height
- or -
(B) the "label" command "height" option, e.g.
label height 2
(or whatever angstrom height you want). For details, see: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html>
Or if you want to set a preference for labels created in the future, see "label defaultHeight" <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html#defaultHeight>
...or, you can do the same thing with the Preferences GUI, the Labels section: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/preferences.html#labels>
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
How do I change the size of label “5.6 angstrom” of distance? Miao
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Hello, Most probably the issue is that some parts are not assigned as helix, so they are shown in the "coil" (non-helix, non-strand) ribbon style. In that case, it is because the backbone conformations of the two structures are slightly different and the H-bonding pattern is less ideal in some part, causing identification of that part as coil instead of helix.
However, you can manually assign the residues as helix regardless of their conformation, if you really want to do that. In the assignment command, you would need to specify those residues by their residue number (and probably also chain ID and model number, if there are multiple chains and/or multiple models), for example:
setattr #2/B:10-20 residues is_helix true
see "setattr" help https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/setattr.html
You may also need to assign the attribute "ss_id" if you are still seeing short coil segments in the middle of where you want helix, as explained in this previous post: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/message/MRGR67RGWL7FIT2WZY6CUWVG64AVMA23/
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Apr 16, 2024, at 10:50 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear Elaine We made figures using ChimeraX of the same protein. One structure with small molecule bound, one without. The cartoon style of the same region is shown differently in these two structures. How can we make them more consistent with each other? The cartoon style width is the same. <image001.png>
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Dear ChimeraX Help
We made figures using ChimeraX of the same protein. One structure with small molecule bound, the other one without. The cartoon style of the same region is shown differently in these two structures. How can we make them more consistent with each other? The cartoon style width is the same. [A close-up of a protein Description automatically generated]
[A close-up of several spirals Description automatically generated] From: Elaine Meng meng@cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, October 27, 2023 at 1:08 PM To: Zhang, Miao zhang@chapman.edu Cc: Tom Goddard via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: change label size External Message
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Hi Miao, If you just want to make current labels bigger, either
(A) menu: Actions... Label.. Set Label Height
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(B) the "label" command "height" option, e.g.
label height 2
(or whatever angstrom height you want). For details, see: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html>
Or if you want to set a preference for labels created in the future, see "label defaultHeight" <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/label.html#defaultHeight>
...or, you can do the same thing with the Preferences GUI, the Labels section: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frbvi.ucsf....https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/preferences.html#labels>
I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
How do I change the size of label “5.6 angstrom” of distance? Miao
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Dear Miao Zhang, Please see previous answer to your same question from last week:
Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco
On Apr 21, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Zhang, Miao via ChimeraX-users chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu wrote:
Dear ChimeraX Help
We made figures using ChimeraX of the same protein. One structure with small molecule bound, the other one without. The cartoon style of the same region is shown differently in these two structures. How can we make them more consistent with each other? The cartoon style width is the same. <image001.png>
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