August 2007 - Chimera-users - RBVI Mailing Lists

stereo view
by Rutledge, Robert (NIH/NCI) [V] 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

I have been trying to get chimera to work with stereo. I now have an NVidia Quadro FX 1500 card, and I start Chimera with the --stereo option. The program starts fine, but produces the following error: "can not open camera mode". Stereo will not work when I try to select it from the camera tab. My computer has 3 monitors; two are connected to the Quadro card. The first monitor (the one active during boot) is connected to an NVidia 7800GTX. Do I need to swap my cards so that the Quadro becomes the first card or is there another solution? Thanks, Robert Rutledge

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New benchmark
by David Konerding 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hello, here is a new benchmark HP xw9400 2 dual core Opteron 2220 8GB RAM Quadro FX3500 256MB nvidia driver 100.14.11 Chimera version 2422 Molecule (Atoms): Null Wire Stick BStick Ribbon Sphere Ops 1GCN (246): 15318.0 12309.0 1401.0 1313.0 15107.0 3208.0 6848.0 1YTI (798): 8422.0 7090.0 469.0 453.0 11649.0 900.0 2585.0 2GBP (2575): 448.0 2287.0 122.0 127.0 1443.0 289.0 536.0 1GOT (6449): 172.0 559.0 39.0 43.0 590.0 87.0 186.0 2HMG (12189): 173.0 254.0 26.0 27.0 246.0 52.0 78.0 2PDA (18894): 96.0 172.0 18.0 14.0 208.0 33.0 40.0 1YNJ (24369): 75.0 128.0 14.0 13.0 184.0 24.0 30.0 1F4H (33805): 46.0 114.0 9.0 8.0 72.0 25.0 21.0 surface 842 mesh 846 contour 153 solid 477 recolor 153 Dave

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VRML output
by Andrew Carter 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

I have been testing the vrml output from chimera (for loading into cinema 4d) and I can get a ribbon representation to work ok. However when I try a surface rendering it looses all the color. Am I dong something wrong. Also with the surface rendering is there a way to change how course the vrml output is? Many thanks Andrew

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potential bug in saving sessions using IMOD import
by William Jeffrey Triffo 17 Aug '07

17 Aug '07

not sure if this has already been reported, but if I save a session in which I have imported IMOD models (surface meshes + contours), and then reload the session, only the contours appear - the surface meshes do not. this is using build 2416, May 30 2007 release. -Jeff -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Triffo Auer Group, Donner Lab, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Raphael Group, Bioengineering Department, Rice University Medical Scientist Training Program (MSTP), Baylor College of Medicine phone (Berkeley): 510-486-7940 fax (Berkeley): 510-486-6488

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NRAMM workshop
by Thomas Goddard 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

Hi Scooter, Bridget Carragher suggests I give a demo of Chimera at the NRAMM (National resource for automated molecular microscopy) workshop on November 14. I think I will do that. Do you have special interest in talking with Bridget and Clint Potter about our proposed collaboration to use Chimera as a viewer of their EM database? Tom Bridget Carragher wrote: > Hi Tom, > We are hoping that we might be able to persuade you to come to our > upcoming workshop: "Workshop on advanced topics in EM structure > determination" which will be held during November 10-16, 2007 at NRAMM. > We will have a number of afternoon demonstrations of various relevant > software and we would be delighted if you would agree to give a half > hour presentation of the most relevant aspects of Chimera to the cryoE > community during the afternoon of Wednesday November 14. We will of > course, cover your airfare, as well as accommodation and all meals while > you are here and we'd encourage you to stay for as much of the workshop > as you can manage. I'm attaching a draft agenda of the workshop so you > can get an idea of the basic outlay - all except the highlighted talks > are conformed. > Best regards, > Bridget and Clint > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bridget Carragher, Associate Professor > Automated Molecular Imaging Group, Department of Cell Biology > The Scripps Research Institute, MC CB129,10550 North Torrey Pines Road, > La Jolla, CA 92037 > tel: (858) 784-9070; fax: (858) 784-9090; bcarr(a)scripps.edu; > http://ami.scripps.edu > National Resource for Automated Molecular Microscopy: > http://nramm.scripps.edu > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

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Re: [Chimera-users] sym command in Chimera
by Thomas Goddard 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

Hi Nevin, The sym command places molecule copies relative to the coordinate frame of a density map. If you do not have a density map open it will not work. The solution is to open a density map, any map will do even if it is not related to your system -- it is just providing a coordinate frame. Here's a density map (potassium ion channel electron microscope data) if you don't have one. ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/emdb/structures/EMD-1094/map/emd_1094.map.gz You'll need to uncompress it (for example, with gunzip, or on the Mac it will offer to uncompress automatically when you download it) before opening it in Chimera. Once it is open in Chimera and you use the sym command you can undisplay it with Favorites / Model Panel. You also use Model Panel to freeze the map (uncheck the "active" button) in order to make motions of the molecule generate new positions for the molecule copies. Here is why a map is needed to define a coordinate frame. You might think the positioning matrices could just be applied in the global coordinate frame. But when you rotate the Chimera models with the mouse to get a different view point, that moves all the models around in the global frame, and that would cause all the monomers to assume a new arrangement if the matrices were applied to the rotated reference model. So in order to be able to see you models from different view points without changing their relative positions the symmetries are applied relative to the coordinate frame of a density map. (Could be relative to any other model but the command was created for people fitting molecules into density maps.) If you rotate the density map and molecules together then the matrices still keep the same relative positions of the molecules. Tom Z. Nevin Gerek wrote: > > Hello, > I am having another problem with sym command. When I test on some > proteins including the example (1i84) provided in the website, I get > 'No opened volume or reference model specified" error. > I used sym and then sym #0 but they give same error. Do I need to copy > another feature for this command? Is there anyway I can fox this problem? > > Thanks again, > > > Z. Nevin Gerek, Ph.D. > Postdoctoral Fellow > ----------------------------------------------------- > The Center for Biological Physics > Arizona State University > PO Box 871504 > Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 > Phone: (480) 727-8897 > nevin.gerek(a)asu.edu <mailto:nevin.gerek@asu.edu>

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Manually assigning secondary structure to residues
by Oren Shalev 16 Aug '07

16 Aug '07

Dear Chimera team and users, I'm modeling chains with gaps using in-house software. When opening in Chimera a model in which a secondary structure element is broken or flanked by the start/end of a gap, the secondary structure of the residue adjacent to the gap is assigned to be 'coil'. I guess this is expected, since one needs to know both Phi and Psi angles to determine the secondary structure of a given residue, yet I always have knowledge that the residue adjacent to the gap does indeed belong to a secondary structure element. My question is this: is there a way to assign the secondary structure of a given residue to either 'helix' or 'strand'? I'm interested in this for imaging purposes, so potential negative consequences on other aspects of Chimera's operation (perhaps on analysis tools?) don't matter to me. Thank you, Oren

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sym command in Chimera
by Z. Nevin Gerek 15 Aug '07

15 Aug '07

Dear Chimera team, I am trying to use sym command to generate symmetry related copy of a protein. I followed this link: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/experimental/symmetrycopies/ symcopies.html The version I am using is 1.2422. When I write sym, I get this error: "unrecognized command: "sym" Then I found this link http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera- users/2005-September/000464.html and put necessary files to Chimera.app/Contents/Resources/share folder. Then I restart Chimera, I get same error. Is there another way to use sym command in Chimera? Thanks for your help, Z. Nevin Gerek, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow ----------------------------------------------------- The Center for Biological Physics Arizona State University PO Box 871504 Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 Phone: (480) 727-8897 nevin.gerek(a)asu.edu On Aug 11, 2007, at 12:00 PM, chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu wrote: > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. transposing a pdb structure ("copy & paste") (Ben Keshet) > 2. Re: transposing a pdb structure ("copy & paste") (Elaine Meng) > 3. Re: transposing a pdb structure ("copy & paste") (Eric > Pettersen) > 4. Re: chimera on AMD workstation (Vinay Kumar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:53:33 -0400 > From: "Ben Keshet" <keshet1(a)umbc.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] transposing a pdb structure ("copy & paste") > To: <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <000001c7db88$238da8b0$29ad5582@umbc80a173302c> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Chimera fans and team, > > I have a pdb file of a fragment of an amyloid fibril constructed of > 8 layers > (8 parallel strands of beta sheet). I would like to overcome the end > effects when modeling it, so I would like extend the existing > structure by > duplicating it at its end. > > Does Chimera has a tool do the following: duplicate existing pdb > molecule > coordinates, position the duplicated molecule at a desired > location, and > then align it reasonably with respect to the original molecule? > > Thank you very much for your time and help. > > Ben > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:04:20 -0700 > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] transposing a pdb structure ("copy & > paste") > To: "Ben Keshet" <keshet1(a)umbc.edu> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <8f3e5fad823ed51cc9da3fa7677864cc(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Dear Ben, > Chimera doesn't have the ability to figure out for you the proper > position of one copy relative to another. You could open multiple > copies, perform manual positioning, and then write out all the > coordinates, but I imagine it might be difficult to get the right > position of one copy relative to another, even manually/interactively. > > To manually position a structure relative to another, you could > interactively rotate/translate and/or use the "move" (translation) and > "turn" (rotation) commands. You can freeze/unfreeze a copy using the > Active checkbox in the Model Panel (in the Favorites menu by default), > the command "select," or the little checkboxes under the Command Line > (also under Favorites). > > If you did manage to position copy 2 relative to copy 1 to your > liking, > you could write the transformation matrices out (see "matrixget" > command). From those you could calculate the transformation of 2 > relative to 1 and also generate appropriate matrices that would then > position 3, 4, ... correctly (see "matrixset" command). I admit I > don't know how to do those calculations. Anyone? > > Yet another snag depends on how you will be using these coordinates. > Does it require all the PDB files to be merged into one? If so, can > they be in a multi-MODEL form, or in a single model? Chimera can > output separate PDB files or a single multi-MODEL PDB file. If you > need all the coordinates to be in one model, however, you would > have to > edit the PDB output from Chimera so there are not atoms with duplicate > atom numbers and chain IDs. However, it all depends on what the > *next* > program you will be using requires and expects. If you will just be > using Chimera, however, no further editing would be required (in fact, > you could just save a session rather than writing out coordinates). > > Maybe someone else will have a smarter and less discouraging set of > suggestions! Best, > Elaine > > On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Ben Keshet wrote: > >> Dear Chimera fans and team, >> >> I have a pdb file of a fragment of an amyloid fibril constructed of 8 >> layers >> (8 parallel strands of beta sheet). I would like to overcome the end >> effects when modeling it, so I would like extend the existing >> structure by >> duplicating it at its end. >> >> Does Chimera has a tool do the following: duplicate existing pdb >> molecule >> coordinates, position the duplicated molecule at a desired location, >> and >> then align it reasonably with respect to the original molecule? >> >> Thank you very much for your time and help. >> >> Ben > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:53:36 -0700 > From: Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] transposing a pdb structure ("copy & > paste") > To: Ben Keshet <keshet1(a)umbc.edu> > Cc: Chimera BB <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <E5C1411A-58C1-49A8-8899-24816E53E043(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Aug 10, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > >> To manually position a structure relative to another, you could >> interactively rotate/translate and/or use the "move" (translation) >> and >> "turn" (rotation) commands. You can freeze/unfreeze a copy using the >> Active checkbox in the Model Panel (in the Favorites menu by >> default), >> the command "select," or the little checkboxes under the Command Line >> (also under Favorites). >> >> If you did manage to position copy 2 relative to copy 1 to your >> liking, >> you could write the transformation matrices out (see "matrixget" >> command). From those you could calculate the transformation of 2 >> relative to 1 and also generate appropriate matrices that would then >> position 3, 4, ... correctly (see "matrixset" command). I admit I >> don't know how to do those calculations. Anyone? > > It's a little tricky. Basically, you want to get copy 1's matrix to > be the identity matrix while keeping copy 2 in the same relative > position. Here's one way to do it (and maybe someone can suggest > something better): > > 1) open yet another copy (copy 3) as a reference > 2) use "matrixset" to set copy 3's matrix to be the identity matrix > 3) use the "match" command with the 'active' keyword to match copy 1 > onto the reference (copy 3) while also moving copy 2 appropriately > 4) use "matrixget" to get copy 2's new transformation matrix > > I would imagine that copy 2's matrix is essentially all translation > components (i.e. the upper 3x3 is all zeroes or near-zeroes) so all > you need to do to place additional copies to multiply the translation > components by 2, 3, etc. > > --Eric > > Eric Pettersen > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab > pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu > > >

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Request
by Rajendra P. OJHA 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Dear Sir, After installation on a AMD opetron machine(64 bit) it gives the following error message Pease rectify the problem and oblige. Thanks Ojha ************************** Message ********************** ./chimera-1.2422-linux_x86_64.exe UnZipSFX 5.41 of 16 April 2000, by Info-ZIP (Zip-Bugs(a)lists.wku.edu) Original path: '/home/rpo/CHIMERA' inflating: chimera_install_KUOeVj/installer inflating: chimera_install_KUOeVj/chimera.exe ./installer: /lib64/tls/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./ installer) result code from installer: 256 Installer returned unexpected return code '256' Cleaning up extract dir, 'chimera_install_KUOeVj' Installation is done; press return. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/

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stereo display
by Rutledge, Robert (NIH/NCI) [V] 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

I am trying to get stereo working with Chimera. I use the --stereo switch when I start up the program. This results in the following error: "unable to find hardware stereo support (Togl: couldn't choose stereo pixel format)". The graphics card connected to the CRT monitor is NVIDIA 7900GS. I run Chimera under Windows XP media center edition. I have a cheap pair of shutter glasses (edimensional), which work properly when tested by the test application on the graphics card. Do I need another graphics card or glasses, or is something else the problem? Robert Rutledge

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