January 2009 - Chimera-users - RBVI Mailing Lists

Coloring bonds/sticks independent of the atom color
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Is it possible to color bonds / sticks independent of the atoms so that I could have colored balls corresponding to atom types but have all the sticks connecting the balls/atoms to be a different color or colors. Thanks again, Dave

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precise overlay of ligands
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Hi! I have two ligands in two different PDB files which have a very similar core structure. I have constructed a framework of dummy atoms based on the centroids of several aromatic rings to use as a positioning system for the two ligands. I have three points/dummy atoms for each ligand in space in their respective pdb files and I would like to overlay or map the three points of one onto the three points of the other so I can make measurements in chimera. Is there a simple way to open the two pdb files, select the three points that belong to each ligand and overlay them (maybe even minimize the rms deviation between them with some kind of fit to the plane defined by the three points). I can do this by hand and get them close but not exact. I would also like to be able to calculate the rms deviation between similar atoms in the core structure if possible. Thanks in advance, Dave Chenoweth ********************************************** David M. Chenoweth California Institute of Technology Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering Mail Code: 164-30 1200 California Boulevard, 91125 Pasadena California, USA Phone: 626-395-6074 Email: dchen(a)caltech.edu **********************************************

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Re: [Chimera-users] Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Elaine Meng 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hi Virginia, I definitely tried it myself before sending the message, but in a much newer version (daily build Jan 9, 2009!). However, I just now tried it in both 1.2540 and the most recent production release 1.3 (Dec 2008), and in both of those versions the command works either with or without the pound signs (#). The error message sounds like you have additional models besides the DNA structure with model number 0. If so, I think the command would work if you close those, use sym, and then reopen or regenerate them as possible. You may want to update to a newer version to get other new features, but my experiments suggest it will not affect this particular problem. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Virginia Pett wrote: > Elaine, > Thanks for the fast reply! > > I had tried what you suggested. > sym #0 #0 > and just now I tried > sym 0 0 > and generated error message: > Multiple models with id: 0 > > I am using Chimera ver 1.2540 and perhaps the problem is that I need > to update the software? > > Virginia

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Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Virginia Pett 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I am trying to display PDB file 2O1I, which is a DNA structure. I would like to generate the biological macromolecule with 2 strands of DNA, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do this. The PDB file has BIOMT records in it and I thought I could use the sym command to generate the other strand of DNA. What do I use for the refmol? Is there a tutorial on this topic? Virginia _______________________________ Virginia B. Pett Professor of Chemistry The College of Wooster 943 College Mall Wooster, OH 44691-2363 voice: 330-263-2114 fax: 330-263-2386

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"Extra" hydrogens in Dockprep and addH steps
by CHIU,YEUNG 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Dear colleagues and friends, I notice that during "Tools -> Dockprep" and "Tools -> addH" steps Chimera sometimes will automatically add hydrogens to the positions considered necessary by the program itself. However, these positions do not always really have these hydrogens imposed on them. One situation is when I added hydrogen to the molecule containing nitrogen with lone-pair electrons, Chimera added hydrogen to the position of this lone-pair. One other situation is in the disulfide bond. It seems that Chimera can not recognize the disulfide bond, so hydrogen is added to each of the thiol group, which is obviously inappropriate. I'm wondering what causes these situations and how users can prevent them happening. Any help is appreciated. If you coincidently encountered with similar situation, I'm glad to hear your story as well~ Happy new year and best wishes to your research! Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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Changes after 1.3
by Jon Rumbley 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I noticed you were going to remove the DelPhi interface after Chimera ver 1.3. I have used this interface to generate electrostatic surfaces in Chimera for both teaching and research, will there be something replacing it? Thank you, Jon Rumbley Dr. Jon N. Rumbley Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry/ Dept. of Pharmaceutical Sciences University of Minnesota-Duluth 253C SSB 1035 Kirby Dr. Duluth, MN 55812 Phone: 218-726-7423 email: jrumbley(a)d.umn.edu

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Higher Order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I have another related question: If I were to deposit a PDB coordinates file of a helical structure, what would be the best place to put helical symmetry information (the file includes the full coordinates for only one asymmetric unit) so that chimera can generate a model with more than one asymmetric unit ?. The idea being to be able to see the contacts between asymmetric units and the symmetry of the complex. Should I use the the SMTRY, or the MTRIX entries ?. Does it make any difference in chimera ?. Thanks Hernando . -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Higher order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hi, Is it possible to use the tools in: Higher Order Structures > Multiscale Models to generate full atomic models (with atoms and all the display capabilities of chimera) from the symmetry entries in the PDB file (SMTRY entries) ? So far I been able to produce only a rough surface representation of the symmetry related molecules. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] delphi
by Elaine Meng 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Hi everybody, I'm happy to report that Chimera (version 1.4 builds Jan 8, 2009 and later) can now read electrostatic potential maps from the Intel Mac version of DelPhi provided by the Honig lab as of mid-2008: <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements> The problem was that part of the potential file was written in double precision. Their group may be updating that executable so that it does not write double precision, but either way, the newer builds of Chimera will be able to read the maps. This does not solve the problem Darren was having, I assume using a PPC Mac rather than an Intel Mac. The PPC Mac version of DelPhi from the Honig lab still requires certain library files that I don't think are freely available. The Honig web site (URL above) does mention this issue. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > Hi Darren, > Unfortunately it is an unsolved problem getting a pre-made delphi > executable for Mac OSX that gives results that can be shown in > Chimera. Just to clarify for everybody, DelPhi is a program freely > provided by another group, but without official support. > > I went through several weeks of trying to get an older executable from > the Honig site to work, installing various files myself just as you > have. Here is the chimera-users message where I describe running up > against this wall: > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2006-November/ > 001113.html >> > > I reported these problems to the Honig group, and some months later > (July 2008) they updated their Mac OSX Intel executable so it does not > require these additional libraries. Maybe you downloaded an > executable before that time or have a PPC Mac rather than Intel. > Honig group DelPhi download page: > <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ > Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements >> > > However, although the Intel executable runs nicely and can be > controlled by DelPhiController, something about the map format changed > and Chimera cannot read the result. We were unable to get information > from the Honig lab on how the format changed, or even reverse-engineer > the changes given our example maps. There is nothing else we can do - > it is a limitation recorded in our database as problem report #6228.

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question about measuring volume via command line and the nogui option
by Bruno Villoutreix 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Dear Chimera Users i am new to chimera, is it possible using something like: chimera --nogui open myfile.mol2 and then i would like to measure the area and volume...but i am not sure which command to use. I can get the surface with this command but to get the volume, i have to use the graphic interface, i do not see either the name of the command in the command history list... thanks if you can give me some advices Bruno

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