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color bond distance, angle and so on
by Jean-Didier Maréchal 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Hi guys, How can I change the color of the labels associated to distance between atoms, angles etc (both the for the text and the dashes). Thanks a lot JD **************************** Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Lecturer The Computational Biotechnological Chemistry Team Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es www: http://asklipio.qf.uab.es

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Re: [Chimera-users] How to model a 4Fe4S cluster on conserved Cys residues
by Elaine Meng 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Ingmar Buerstel wrote: > Dear Elaine, > thanx a lot for your quick answer. In fact I have already a modelled structure (made with swiss model) of the protein. > I was looking for a possiblitiy to fit a 4Fe4S-cluster in the position of the original cluster. The cysteines are conserved, thus, I just need to copy/paste the 4Fe4S-cluster into my structure. I would be glad, if you could help me concerning this problem. Dear Ingmar, You could superimpose your model and the related structure that does contain this cluster (residue SF4) and then merge the SF4 residue into your model. However, the result may be rough, depending on how well the structures match in 3D. It might be better to start over and use Modeller as described in my previous message, because it can make a model that already includes the cluster. However, if you want to try the superimposing approach, here are more details. (a) In Chimera, open your model and then open the known related structure that contains the cluster. (b) Superimpose the two structures, for example with the Matchmaker tool. Here is some discussion of different ways to superimpose structures in Chimera. You will want to make sure that the structures match well at the four cysteines. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/superposition.html> (c) Delete everything in the known structure except for the part you want to paste into your homology model, and then combine the two models into one. For example, if your model is open as #0 in Chimera and the known structure is open as #1, you could use commands delete #1 & ~:sf4 combine #0,1 The delete command gets rid of all atoms in #1 except the SF4 residue. The combine command creates a new model, #2, by merging the SF4 residue in #1 with the homology model in #0. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/combine.html> You can save the new model #2 to a file (for example, with File... Save PDB). However, you would hope that the cysteine sidechains in your model are pointing in the correct orientations to bind the cluster. If not, you might have to paste in those residues from the known structure too, and delete them from your homology model, before merging. Then you might have to manually text-edit the PDB to add bonds between the merged cysteines and the rest of the homology model. Again, it might be better just to start over and use a modelling method that can include the cluster in the first place. I hope this helps, Elaine ---------- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco > > > > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] How to model a 4Fe4S cluster on conserved Cys residues > > From: meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:38:45 -0800 > > CC: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To: ingmar_b(a)hotmail.com > > > > Dear Ingmar, > > It sounds like you want to model your whole protein including the 4Fe4S cluster, am I right? Or is there a structure of your protein but that does not include the cluster? > > > > I would not recommend modeling this "from scratch" (building one atom by one atom) in Chimera but instead, homology-modeling your protein and cluster from the structure of a related protein that contains the cluster. Of course, this all depends on the existence of a known structure for a related protein. > > > > Chimera includes an interface to the Modeller program for homology-modeling. To use it, you would have to first go to the Modeller website > > <http://www.salilab.org/modeller/registration.html> > > and register to get a license key (free for academic use). In Chimera, you could choose "Tools... Sequence... Blast Protein," paste in the sequence of your protein, and then blast it against the PDB to see if there are any structures related to your protein. If there is a hit that seems good enough to you, you could use the Blast results dialog to open the structure and also the alignment of the two sequences. > > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/blast.html> > > Then, in the sequence alignment window, choose "Structure... Modeller Tools" to show the interface to Modeller. Use "Advanced Option" to "Include non-water HETATM residues from template" so that the FeS cluster will be included in the model. > > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multalignviewer/mo…> > > > > Or, you could simply see if there is already a model of your protein available in ModBase by using "File... Fetch by ID" in the Chimera menu. However, those models probably wouldn't contain the FeS cluster. > > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/fetch.html> > > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/modbase.html> > > > > Some related references I just saw but didn't read in detail: > > > > Fee, J. A.; Castagnetto, J.M.; Case, David A.; Noodleman, L.; Stout, C.D.; Torres, R.A.; "The circumsphere as a tool to assess distortion in [4Fe-4S] atom clusters". J. Biol. Inorg. Chem. 2003, 8: 519-526. > > <http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00775-003-0445-8> > > > > Atomic resolution structures of oxidized [4Fe-4S] ferredoxin from Bacillus thermoproteolyticus in two crystal forms: systematic distortion of [4Fe-4S] cluster in the protein. > > (2002) J.Mol.Biol. 315: 1155-1166 > > <http://dx.doi.org/10.1006/jmbi.2001.5292> > > (goes with PDB entries 1iqz, 1ir0 ... I see that the residue name of the cluster is SF4, so you could also use the searching tools at the PDB website to find structures that have this cluster) > > > > I hope this helps, > > Elaine > > > On Mar 6, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Ingmar Buerstel wrote: > > > Dear users, > > > i hope anybody out there can help me. I would like to model a 4Fe4S cluster in between a set of four highly conserved Cys residues. From compoarative analysis with crystal strucutre I know there belongs a 4Fe4S but for my respective protein no such crystal exists, so I would like to model my 4Fe4S cluster by my self. I am not very familiar with Chimera, yet, but the "Build structure" function did not work quite well for me. > > > > > > So would kindly ask those who have experince with this kind of models to give me some hinds to model such a FeS-cluster > > > Thanx in advance, > > > Ingmar > >

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Searching chimera-users archive
by Tom Goddard 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Hi Conrad, Searching the Chimera mail archives from the Chimera documentation web page does not work at all well. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docindex.html I tried searching for "Beale" and it produced no results. > Your search - *Beale site:www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users > -filetype:gz* - did not match any documents. > > Suggestions: > > * Make sure all words are spelled correctly. > * Try different keywords. > * Try more general keywords. > * Try fewer keywords. > There is a message in August 2010 from John Beale. If I search for that message using www.google.com (chimera "startup options" John Beale) I do get the message. So it has been indexed. Some other revealing problems. Searching the Chimera archives from the documentation page for "chimera" produces only 20 hits, all but 5 are attachments. Likewise a search for "windows" produces just 4 hits (one from 2005, one 2006, one 2007, one 2010). Obviously this isn't working. Maybe we should remove the search field from the documentation until we have time to fix it because users (even ones who should know better like me) sometimes believe the search results that there are no archived messages on the topic. Tom > On Mar 8, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> How do I reply to an old chimera-users message and keep my reply in >> the same mailing list thread? I guess there is some mail header line >> that allows the mailing list to recognize which messages belong to >> the same thread. But I don't have the old chimera-users email I want >> to reply to. The web interface to the archive doesn't appear to >> provide a way to reply. > > Well, I don't know for sure, but I assume it is threaded based on the > In-Reply-To header and/or the References header. Now, the archive > doesn't show you either of those so I assume they're buried in some > internal location, so you're stuck. Besides, threading is broken > across month boundaries anyway, so isn't the point moot really? > > --Eric >

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saving charmm layout
by Francesco Pietra 07 Mar '11

07 Mar '11

Hello: Is it possible to save pdb conserving as much as possible charmm layout (in particular the segments (P1, P2, etc)? I find speedy to edit graphically with Chimera but, afterward, much time is required to restore charmm layout. thanks francesco pietra

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How to model a 4Fe4S cluster on conserved Cys residues
by Ingmar Buerstel 07 Mar '11

07 Mar '11

Dear users, i hope anybody out there can help me. I would like to model a 4Fe4S cluster in between a set of four highly conserved Cys residues. From compoarative analysis with crystal strucutre I know there belongs a 4Fe4S but for my respective protein no such crystal exists, so I would like to model my 4Fe4S cluster by my self. I am not very familiar with Chimera, yet, but the "Build structure" function did not work quite well for me. So would kindly ask those who have experince with this kind of models to give me some hinds to model such a FeS-cluster Thanx in advance, Ingmar

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question on volume viewer usage
by Bala subramanian 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Friends, I am using chimera version 1.5 (build 31401 downloaded on 2010-09-16). I have three pdb files (of same protein) and for each pdb file, i have an electro static potential file (.dx file). I opened the three pdb files and then the .dx potential files successively through volume viewer. Each time i open the .dx file, the isosurfaces are mapped on to the first pdb file. Why is it so ?. 1) Precisely 1.dx should be mapped on 1.pdb, 2.dx on 2.pdb...etc. How can i do this ? 2) Is there any way to have a universal setting of volume display options. Like in isosurface threhold (+2 and -2 in my case), color for +ve and -ve surface, transparency etc. Because presently i am doing these settings individually for each .dx file. Thanks, Bala

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1 out of many helices shown as pipe
by odonnell＠chem.fsu.edu 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi all, I have a pdb with many alpha helices but I only want one or two to stand out as a pipe. I tried highlighting that particular sequence(s) and going to Depiction => pipesAndPlanks but it will change all of them. Many thanks for a push in the right direction. -Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sent via webmail for Chemistry & Biochemistry @ Florida State University https://webmail.chem.fsu.edu -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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ambient lighting mode for simple drawing style missing
by Benda, Christian 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi possibly a simple question but it has kept me buffled for two weeks now, so I decided to ask: how can I set lighting mode to ambient? I am trying to create images using a simple drawing style like exemplified in http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ImageGallery/ p53 simple drawing or Clathrin but I don't find ambient lighting mode in the viewing tools - lighting menu. The only options given are lights (head light, 1, 2) or quality (normal, glossy). I am using Chimera 1.5 build 30417 fir darwin 64bit, aqua on a MacBook Pro with Mac OS X 10.6.6. Many thanks in advance Christian ________________________________ Dr. Christian Benda Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry Structural Cell Biology Am Klopferspitz 18 D-82152 Martinsried Germany Phone: +49 (0)89 85 78 23 37 Fax: +49 (0)89 85 78 22 19 Email: benda(a)biochem.mpg.de

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Re: [Chimera-users] Problem with Nvidia Quadro FX 880M and Stereocopic view
by Veli-Pekka Kestilä 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Thank you, I had missed the settings on that other place. Now it works quite well. (barring some issues with external monitor) I also noticed that overlay setting in same menu should be on or whole desktop would get blurry (with or without stereo glasses on). -vpk On 3/1/11 10:36 PM, Greg Couch wrote: > If both Chimera and PyMol are complaining, then you've haven't > configured OpenGL stereo correctly. The NVidia Quadro driver > configuration has two places to setup stereo. There are the > "Stereoscopic 3D" settings that are not helpful for chimera (except for > making NVIDIA's stereo image viewer work). So in addition to that, you > want to setup stereo in the "3D Settings / Manage 3D Settings" dialog. > In there, turn on "Stereo - Enable" and select the appropriate kind of > stereo in "Stereo - Display mode". > > Good luck, > > Greg > > On 02/28/2011 09:11 PM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: >> >> I have done all of these and as I said in my original e-mail I got the >> full screen tests nvidia provides working. Problem is that when I try to >> start Chimera or PyMol it fails complaining that 3d vision mode isn't >> available. So question still basically is if it's possible to get it >> working with Quadro 880M >> >> On 2/23/11 4:40 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote: >>> also see : >>> http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_3D_Display_Options#NVidia_NVision… >>> >>> . It has some instructions on how to setup 3d vision on windows. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek<sabujp(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> IIRC there's an option in the windows nvidia configuration utility >>>> that enables and disables nvidia 3d vision. I assume that's the setup >>>> you're trying to use, so check that to see if it's enabled or >>>> disabled. >>>> >>>> 2011/2/23 Veli-Pekka Kestilä<veli-pekka.kestila(a)helsinki.fi>: >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> On 2/22/11 8:12 PM, Tom Goddard wrote: >>>>>> Hi Veli-Pekka, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is either a driver configuration problem or driver limitation or >>>>>> driver bug. Your driver is from Oct 2010 and there are newer ones. >>>>>> The >>>>>> following 266.58 driver was released Jan 18, 2011 and the notes >>>>>> say it >>>>>> adds support for various "3d vision notebooks". Maybe the new >>>>>> driver is >>>>>> needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-266.58-whql-drive… >>>>>> >>>>> I installed back the newest driver and problem still persist. So it's >>>>> problem either with driver or the card. >>>>> 880M isn't very high end on the Quadro Cards. >>>>> >>>>>> If it is a driver configuration problem, I don't know about that. Our >>>>>> expert on stereo and Windows is on vacation this week but can >>>>>> advise you >>>>>> next week. >>>>> Seems that I will be waiting for that. Thank you for your reply. And >>>>> hope to hear from you next week. >>>>> >>>>> -vpk >>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have problem with Nvidia Quadro FX 880M and Stereoscopic view. >>>>>>> When I >>>>>>> switch the stereoscopic view on in Chimera it gives me following >>>>>>> error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> stereo viewing (Unable to find hardware stereo support >>>>>>> (couldn't choose pixel format >>>>>>> Couldn't configure togl widget)). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have installed the Quadro drivers version 259.57 in Windows 7 >>>>>>> 64bit. >>>>>>> And separate 3D driver for Quadro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> Veli-Pekka Kestilä >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> University of Helsinki / Institute of Biotechnology / >>>>> veli-pekka.kestila(a)helsinki.fi / +358 9 191 58921 / Room 4316, >>>>> Biocenter 3 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chimera-users mailing list >>>>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >> > > -- University of Helsinki / Institute of Biotechnology / veli-pekka.kestila(a)helsinki.fi / +358 9 191 58921 / Room 4316, Biocenter 3

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odd output from surfnet
by Irene Newhouse 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

I'm trying to get an image of channels in the attached protein. It's actually a dimer, & the surfaces looked bizarre for the dimer, so I thought maybe surfnet was choking on the repeated residue numbers when you use chain ID, so I clipped it down to the monomer. That' still odd. I've attached a png of the result, using the defaults, & the pdb file of the monomer. What am I doing wrong? Is there a way to get the n largest channels, instead of all of them? Thanks! Irene Newhouse

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