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POV-ray ignoring surface clipping
by Monica Tello 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Help! I am having trouble saving my images when they have a surface clipped to show the inside. I attach an example for clarity, where the same view was saved with/without POV ray.. If I have a surface around my ligand and is partially clipped, at the time of saving the image: - If I save it without using POV-ray, it saves the exact same view as on the screen, with the surface clipped. - If I use POV-ray, it saves it with the full surface around the ligand, ignoring the clipping I had done. I have tried modifying several POV-ray settings but nothing has worked! Have you got any suggestions? Thanks! Monica SURFACE CLIPPED WITH POV-RAY, SURFACE DOES NOT SHOW THE CLIPPING! ------------------------------------------------- Monica Tello Soto, PhD The Salk Institute for Biological Studies Chemical Biology and Proteomics 10010 North Torrey Pines Road San Diego CA92037 858 453 4100 x1946 tello(a)salk.edu ------------------------------------------------

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POV-ray ignoring surface clipping
by Monica Tello 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Dear all, I am trying to save a Figure that shows my ligand with its surface around partly clipped, and use POV Ray. The problem is that POV Ray modifies the output of the figure: the final picture shows the full surface around the ligand, although on the screen I designed it so that you can see the surface partially clipped. If I use transparency on the surface, POV Ray also ignores this and shows still the full surface around the ligand, and opaque. If I don´t use POV Ray, then I get the figure as seen on the screen! Why is POV Ray ignoring the surface as I want it? It ignores any kind of alteration of the surface! I was using the default POX Ray settings, although by now I have tried to change some of the ones I thought may be related to this, based on the Chimera Manual, but I haven´t had any success. Can anyone help me with this? It will be very much appreciated! I include an example of the same figure saved with and without using POV Ray. The one without using POV ray is the one that looks like what I designed on the screen. Thank you very much!! Monica ----------- ------------------------------------------------- Monica Tello Soto, PhD The Salk Institute for Biological Studies Chemical Biology and Proteomics 10010 North Torrey Pines Road San Diego CA92037 858 453 4100 x1946 tello(a)salk.edu ------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] ESP surface, DelphiController
by Elaine Meng 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

On Sep 1, 2008, at 9:14 AM, James Fethiere wrote: > > Once the .dx file is loaded in Chimera, I get a nice ESP map. > However, it seems sensitive!! how? well, when I color the surface > of a transcription factor bound to DNA (1DH3) according to the dx > ESP loaded file, it's nice. But when I display the ribbons of the > bound DNA in the same model and color these ribbons, the previous > surface reverts to the default Chimera colors and I loose the ESP > from the dx file. Quite strange no? Hi James, The reason is that the surface cannot have "custom" colors (e.g. ESP coloring) and coloring to match the underlying atoms at the same time, even in different areas of the surface. If you make sure to color only ribbon and not surface, the surface should stay ESP-colored. If you are using the Actions... Color menu, make sure to check only "ribbons" as what will be colored, color the ribbons, and then change it back to the default "all of the above" coloring targets. If you are using a command, then something like color red,r :30-50 specifies coloring ribbons only (the ",r" part). The alternative is to do all the ribbon/atom coloring first, ESP-color the surface last. > > It is also not possible to select this dx ESP file in a command > file to make a movie. And if it is displayed before movie record > starts, I get a black frame movie with the avi encoding (yes I did > modify the video acceleration in media player). So I guess it will > be still pictures. Check out the session attached. > What are you trying to do with the surface in this movie (why are you trying to select or specify it?). Most command-line selections are based on specifying a set of atoms, so you would just specify the atoms associated with the molecular surface. However, I would need to know which commands you are trying to use to be more specific/ concrete, or let you know if what you want to do is possible with commands. > Thanks > > James I am unable to deal with that attached session because it is just shown as a zillion lines of text beneath the mail message. My cut- paste attempts failed. You could instead use Help... Report a Bug and attach the session to it to illustrate the black movie problem. We may or may not be able to reproduce it, but having the session (and perhaps also your movie script?) would help. It may only let you attach one thing, so I'd say attach the session and put the script (or some short version that exhibits the problem) as part of the message text. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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POV-ray ignoring surface clipping
by Monica Tello 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

I am having trouble saving my images when they have a surface clipped to show the inside. If I have a surface around my ligand and is partially clipped, at the time of saving the image: - If I save it without using POV-ray, it saves the exact same view as on the screen, with the surface clipped. - If I use POV-ray, it saves it with the full surface around the ligand, ignoring the clipping I had done. I have tried modifying several POV-ray settings but nothing has worked! Have you got any suggestions? Thanks! Monica ------------------------------------------------- Monica Tello Soto, PhD The Salk Institute for Biological Studies Chemical Biology and Proteomics 10010 North Torrey Pines Road San Diego CA92037 858 453 4100 x1946 tello(a)salk.edu ------------------------------------------------

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automating/scripting bond rotation
by E. Merkley 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hello chimera team, I am trying to evaluate which regions of (chi1,chi2) space for a particular tryptophan residue create steric clashes with a bound ligand. I see from the archives that findclash can be called from the command line, but I have been unable to find a way to use the "adjust torsions" feature from the command line. Is this possible? If not, any other suggestions? Thanks in advance, Eric Merkley

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decommissioning SGI Irix platform
by Eric Pettersen 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hi all, We are decommissioning our SGI machines as of 9/15, which means that the 1.2540 release was the last production release for SGI Irix. Daily builds will continue to be made for SGI until 9/15, so some post-1.2450 fixes/features will be available that way. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Povray and semitransparent maps
by odonnell＠chem.fsu.edu 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hi. I'm seeking a tip or two on how to save an image of a semitransparent map with PovRay. Povray works fine, but the image of the semitransparent map it generates is much darker that it appears on the screen. Any advice would be much appreciated. -Jason ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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ESP surface, DelphiController
by Elaine Meng 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Hi James, Just because it has red, white and blue blotches does not mean it is showing ESP!! I don't think the different filenames in the DelPhi log are a problem - I believe temp files are generated from the ones you specify and used in the calculation for technical reasons. However, I do not know the reason for the error and not getting any output. You could try using Help... Report a Bug in the Chimera menu - give more details, such as all the error messages obtained and what it says at the end of the DelPhi log file. The main difficulty with DelPhi and any ESP calculation program is that atom names need to match those in the DelPhi charge parameter files. If you want to use all the hydrogens, you have to either edit all the names in the DelPhi charge parameter file or write out your PDB beforehand and edit all of its atom names to match those in the DelPhi charge parameter file. I have found this to be well nigh impossible. In general many hydrogen names not match and your molecule gets a very large net negative charge. Chimera tries to name hydrogens according to current PDB standards, but these old DelPhi parameter files use a different set of names. Instead, I would just used the DelPhi parameter files "default.crg" and "default.siz" which ignore hydrogens and just plop positives on nonhydrogen atoms in Lys, Arg (maybe His and N-term, I forget) and negatives on nonhydrogen atoms in Asp, Glu (maybe C-term). It is impossible to tell what "half all red" and "half all blue" means. It depends on what levels you have specified to be displayed as red and blue. Maybe the APBS map is fine - try changing the values set to red and blue to larger magnitudes. If APBS writes some sort of log file I would look at that, see if there is a reasonable net charge. Again most of the trickiness is in getting the right charges assigned to the atoms. You could use the PDB2PQR server to get an input file for APBS (if you didn't try that already). <http://nbcr.sdsc.edu/pdb2pqr/> Another possibility is to use the webPIPSA server as mentioned in previous messages, e.g. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-August/003006.html Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Aug 27, 2008, at 7:58 PM, James Fethiere wrote: > Hi Elaine, > > Nice that you found what I did 6kkm away!!! thanks. However, I must > say that it does look artificial. I'm just desperate to get the > electrostatic look as nice as possible (just like the pictures in http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/maps08/exercises.html#esp) > and found that was the closest I could get. One example I'm trying > is on 1DH3 > > On this note, I did try the delphicontroller to get the true > potentials but cannot get it to work. I have installed delphi on > windows-XP and called it from within chimera with tool/ > surfaceanalysis/delphicontroller. I entered the path for the > executable and charge and radii files. When I run delphi, I get an > error with no output file generated and some strange parameters in > the log file: > > in(pdb, file="tmph4vkzc") This does not correspond to the chimera > model I have chosen > in(siz, file="tmplk_go0") same here; not the file specified > in(crg, file="tmpbg7nlz") same thing > AC = true > CS = true > PF = 60 > SC = 1.2 > PR = 1.4 > FC = true > LG = false > LP = false > PX = false > PY = false > PZ = false > BC = 4 > ID = 2 > ED = 80 > GC = 0.0 > IS = 0.0 > IR = 0.0 > NI = 0 > > P.S. I did addH before starting Delphi! Any idea of what is going > wrong? > > I also tried to run APBS and got a potential file. But when I read > it in chimera, I get strange looking surfaces with half all red and > half all blue!!! here again I could use some guidance. > > Thanks for your help. > > James > -- > James Fethiere, Ph.D. > Institut de Recherche en Immunologie et Cancerologie > Pavillon Marcelle Coutu, University de Montreal > 2900 edouard-montpetit > Montreal, Qc H3t 1J4 > Tel: 514-343-6111 ext. 0918/0919 > Fax: 514-343-5839 > james.fethiere(a)umontreal.ca

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unattended installation on Windows
by Nelson, Lisa 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

Hello, I am not a chimera user; I'm an IT person. I have been asked to provide this application for next semester on our walk-up Windows computers for students. I have downloaded the necessary Windows installation materials, but I cannot find any documentation about command line parameters for the installation process itself, and the installation executable does not appear to be one of the usual suspects that I'm familiar with. Specifically, I'm looking for a way to do unattended, silent installation from a batch file. Attended installation is not an option as there are thousands of computers involved. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. I am not on the chimera mailing list, so please send replies privately. (The "contact us" webpage appears to give me the option of e-mailing to this list even though I'm not a member, so since I have only this one question and no particular need to subscribe, I've done it this way.) Thanks, Lisa.

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selection
by James Fethiere 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Hi, I'm trying to create a category for separate surfacing of chains in a session that has multiple models. The following command: _surfcat sh3 #7:.a, surf sh3_ returns mangled atoms specifier. This may looks trivial but I can't find the right syntax to specify both the chain and residues in the same command. Any idea? Thanks James

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