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structure matching
by Bala subramanian 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Hello all, 1) I have to superimpose two protein structures based on sequence matching say prot1 and prot2. Precisely matchmaker. My prot1 is a cryo electron microscopy structure, the structure is not continuous, it has missing residues and hence its pdb contains 3 Chains. My prot2 is a crystal structure, having one chain. I need your suggestion in superimposing these two structure wherever the sequences are matching. What i tried: I opened pro1 pdb and changed all chain names as A ( it contains chain A,B,C). Then i tried to superimpose with prot2, but matchmaker doesn work. 2) when i open molecules one by one, i need all the molecules appear in the center of the chimera window. How to set this in chimera. After opening the first pdb, when i open the second one, it is invisible. Thanks, Bala

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matchmaker output
by Karan Uppal 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Hello, I want to simplify the question I asked yesterday. Is there any way to store the output of Match Maker, specifically the RMSD values for every residue and the list of residues in the alignment regions in an external file from command line? Thank you -Karan

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Web Access Data
by Thiruvarangan Ramaraj 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Hello All, I created a session and saved it under .chimerax extension. I have a link to this session on a web page. When I click on this link I wanted the session to open directly using the chimera program. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/webdata/webdata.ht… I tried to follow the instructions given in the above link, still I am unsuccessful in figuring it out. Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Thiru

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save image with --nogui
by Mark Moll 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

I'd like to load some pdb files, change the view/colors/representation/ etc., and save the resulting view as an image. If possible, I'd like to do this in the background without the GUI. This doesn't seem to work. The latest daily build gives the errors below when using this simple script: import Midas Midas.copy(file='test.png', format='PNG', width=600, height=400) Should I be using a different command? > /Applications/Chimera.app/Contents/MacOS/chimera --nogui foo.pdb test.py Opening foo.pdb... Executing test.py...Rendering high resolution image... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/Chimera.app/Contents/Resources/share/ __main__.py", line 65, in <module> value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimeraInit.py", line 420, in init chimera.openModels.open(a, prefixableType=1) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 1368, in open File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 802, in _openPython File "test.py", line 10, in <module> Midas.copy(file='test.png', format='PNG', width=600, height=400) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/Midas/__init__.py", line 1049, in copy File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/printer.py", line 1176, in saveImage AttributeError: '_chimera.NoGuiViewer' object has no attribute 'pilImages' Error while processing test.py: AttributeError: '_chimera.NoGuiViewer' object has no attribute 'pilImages' (see reply log for Python traceback info) -- Mark

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Saving MultAlign Viewer header information using python
by Karan Uppal 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hello, I am trying to write a Python script to extract the header information from the MultAlign Viewer tool. Are there any command-line commands to interface with this tool and save the header information without manually using the toolbar. Thank you -Karan Uppal

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finding salt bridges
by Elaine Meng 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

> Hi everybody, I just realized my previous suggestion would not include the positively charged histidines, and I have not been able to think of a selector for just those nitrogens. > Example commands to first select by atom type and then find the H- > bonds: > > sel O2- | O3- | N3+ | Ng+ > findhbond selRestrict both saveFile ~/mydir/myfile Sorry about that, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Reverse of AddH
by Francesco Pietra 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi: Is it possible to remove all hydrogens by command, without intervening manually on the pdb file? I have to rmsd the starting (no H) pdb with the final structure after MD (with H). AddH command to the starting structure would place H not optimized, while MD has also changed the C-backbone conformation. Thanks francesco pietra

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solvent accessible area
by Bala subramanian 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

chimerians, I want to calculate the solvent accessible surface area for each atom and write it in the pdb file, kindly tell me how to do it. This is something i used to do with GRASP. it calculates the sasa for each atom and it can be written as a pdb file with sasa in the last column. Thanks, hve nice weekend Bala

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solvent accessible area
by Boaz Shaanan 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi Bala, The program areaimol in the ccp4 package will do just that (i.e. generate a pdb file with the sasa value in the b-factor column). Cheers, Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710 Skype: boaz.shaanan‎

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Multiscale model of RNAP : fibrous aspect
by Damien Larivière 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Dear Elaine, I used the Multiscale Model tool to create a low resolution surface of the PDB 1L9U (TAQ RNA polymerase). The attached image is what I got with a resolution 4 : a fibrous structure. So, I wonder what such a fibrous aspect means or whether it means the tool has some difficulties to create the surface with this specific protein ? Thanks for your help Damien

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How to refer to Chimera in a Newsletter
by Gary Newton 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Hello... I am writing a newsletter for the SER-CAT synchrotron beamlines sector 22 at APS - the newsletter is called the "SER-CAT Spectrum" and is distributed primarily to beamline users. I have included a simple protein drawing produced by CHIMERA and indicated that the drawing was produced by CHIMERA. Should I include a trademark symbol or perhaps a copyright symbol after the name? Thanks for any advice. Best, Gary Newton University of Georgia Athens, GA

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searching chimera archieve
by Bala subramanian 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Dear Elaine, Long time back, I posted a question on *searching chimera archive for a keyword*. Just for an example, i gave "salt bridge" as a key word in the following link, but it dose nt show me the queries on salt bridge in chimera archive. I dnt undertand why ?. It would helpful for chimera loves like me not to repeat same queries and also to understand all ways of analyzing salt bridge based on previous queries. I am sorry if this question is not relevant to chimera technical issues. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/feedback.html Cheers, Bala

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how to quickly delete several markers
by Juha Huiskonen 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Dear Chimera developers & users, I am visualizing template matching results of volume data in Chimera, and I have to discard hundreds of false positives matches, represented as markers. Now I select some markers and then delete the selected markers from the Volume Path Tracer menu. This is quite slow, and for me it would be really handy, if I could delete (all linked) markers just by clicking (one of them) them. Maybe "delete markers with mouse" feature could be added to Volume Path Tracer module? Or is there already a faster way to do this? Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions! Juha -- Dr. Juha Huiskonen Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry Department of Molecular Structural Biology Am Klopferspitz 18 D-82152 Martinsried Germany Tel: +49 89 8578-2632 Fax: +49 89 8578-2641 GSM: +49 176 20786875 E-mail: huiskone(a)biochem.mpg.de http://www.helsinki.fi/~huiskone/

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angles after match
by julien(GWDG) 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Dear all, thank you for the very nice software. I continuously like it. I have the following problem. For different molecules, I would like to know what are the transformation that link them. I can do for example match #0 #1 matrixget - From this matrix I have the rotation information and the translation information. I would like to extract the angles. For that I need to know what convention you used. I guess those are Euler angles (?), but I need to know what is the order of rotation xyz, xzy... Finally how do you get ride of the gimbal lock problem if you use Euler angles. Thank you for your constant help. (Sorry if this question is a duplicate) many greetings julien

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slab representation of nucleic acid
by Bala subramanian 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

The slab representation of nucleic acid under Depiction is not working. I made the following settings *show backbone as* atoms/bonds, *show sugar as* atoms/bonds, *show base* as slab. But the representation is not displayed on the screen. What could be the reason. I myself have used it before and i am not aware why this happens now. Regards, Bala

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finding salt bridges
by Elaine Meng 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Jeremy Schmit wrote: > Does Chimera have a tool for identifying salt bridges? I was able > to use the findHbond tool to count intermolecular H-bonds in the > lysozyme crystal, but I can't seem to find an analogous tool for > salt bridges. In fact, the term "salt bridge" does not yield a > single result on the Chimera site. > Thanks, > Jeremy Hi Jeremy, There isn't a tool for specifically finding salt bridges, but you can consider them as a subset of hydrogen bonds. You could select only atoms in charged functional groups and then limit H-bond detection to that selection. Example commands to first select by atom type and then find the H-bonds: sel O2- | O3- | N3+ | Ng+ findhbond selRestrict both saveFile ~/mydir/myfile If the subunits of interest are different chains in the same model (same input file), you could then postprocess the output (for example, with "grep" on unix) to count only those between the chains. If each subunit is opened as a different model, you could add "intramodel false" to the findhbond command. There are analogous options on the FindHBond graphical interface: "Only find H-bonds with both ends selected" and find just the "inter-model" bonds. findhbond command: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/hbonds.html> findhbond GUI: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/findhbond/findhbon… > atom types: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/idatm.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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copy in a file the distance on the screen
by fabriceg＠univ-reunion.fr 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Dear Users, When analyzing a trajectory file, I would like to monitor a distance (or series of distances) and save it to a file for each frame (getting a time series). I can do it but the values remain on the screen only! I am sure there is a simple script for making this. Thanks for any answer. Best wishes. Fabriceg

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Sequence vs Sequence plot using minrms....
by Sergio Garay 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi all I run minrms with defaults values on my two proteins and I was able to obtain many useful alignments. But when I load the results on chimera, it doesn´t show me the sequence vs sequence plot. Is there any particular way to do that? Or there is any special minrms command (option) to obtain this? All the other plot were right (rms vs sequece and the alignment plot). Any help will be appreciated. -- Dr. Sergio Garay Facultad de Bioquimica y Cs. Biológicas Universidad Nacional del Litoral Santa Fe - Argentina C.C. 242 - Ciudad Universitaria - C.P. S3000ZAA Argentina Ph. +54 (342) 4575-213 Fax. +54 (342) 4575-221

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Match -> Align used with a pair of homodimers
by E. Merkley 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hello chimera friends: I am trying to get a structure-based sequence alignment for a pair of homologous proteins that are homodimers. If I proceed as described in the tutorial and in the 2006 BMC Bioinformatics paper, by first using Matchmaker, then using Match -> align, the Match -> Align fails to produce a reasonable alignment. The sequence identity from the Matchmaker output is 26.5%, but only 1.0 % from the Match -> Align step. If I delete the second monomer from each protein, Match -> Align works quite well. However, it seems like this alignment won't take into account any differences in the tertiary structure between the two proteins. That is, I think I want the global alignment of the whole dimer for the structural alignment, since the active sites is are at the interface. Any suggestions? I'm using version 1.2540, and my two proteins are PDB codes 1ds7 and 1nox (1nox dimer built from BIOMT matrix in Chimera and hand-edited to be 1 model with A and B chains). Thanks yet again, Eric

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Fwd: stereo view
by Francesco Pietra 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

It was a bad idea. What Jason initially suggested (save left-eye and right-eye) should work. What I have to manipulate images is only gimp, with which I am not very familiar. But it seems to have the capability of arranging the two saved files so as to get a stereo effect. There is even a (unofficial) plugin to remove unwanted space around. francesco ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] stereo view To: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Hi Elaine: That makes problems as the referee just wants a stereo view of details of the binding site, which requires magnifying the figure. Is it any way to save a pdb file of the magnified zone alone? (to start from there to build a stereoview). Of course, the normal pdb saving of a magnified figure saves the coordinates for the whole. The only way I can conceive to get the coordinates of the binding site, and nothing else, is manually deleting rows from the pdb file. A tricky route because the chains start and return to the starting point and the binding site is on both strands. thanks francesco On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > I guess you could also save separate left eye and right eye images and put > them farther apart. That might also mess up the stereo effect, though. > Elaine > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > >> Hi Francesco, >> There is a certain separation needed or else your eyes cannot form the >> stereo image. You could try zooming out so the atoms don't take up the >> whole window, or adjusting parameters in the Camera tool (under Tools -> >> Viewing Controls) but I usually don't mess with those camera parameters >> because you could disrupt the stereo viewing if you change them very much. >> Elaine >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> >>> Hi Elaine: >>> Is it any direct way to save stereoimages from magnified images? By >>> the normal route, the wall-eye couple of images are saved adjacent to >>> one another, with no space in between them. >>> >>> thanks >>> francesco >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Francesco, >>>> All of Jason's suggestions are good (thanks Jason!), and I only wanted >>>> to >>>> add a few things: >>>> >>>> (1) while the window will always be a rectangle, you could resize it so >>>> that >>>> there is a different ratio between height and width. If your long >>>> molecule >>>> is oriented across, you could resize the window to be less tall so that >>>> the >>>> width:height ratio is greater. Don't worry if the window is then >>>> filling >>>> less of your screen -- you can specify as high a resolution as you want >>>> in >>>> the File... Save Image dialog. Of course, with a given window size, you >>>> should scale up your molecule(s) to fill it as much as possible. In >>>> agreement with Jason, I think usually a white background is better than >>>> black for publication purposes. How to change background color is >>>> described >>>> near the top of the "Tips on Preparing Images": >>>> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/print.html#tips> >>>> >>>> (2) There is a section on saving stereo images near the bottom of that >>>> "Tips >>>> on Preparing Images" page (by the way, you can use "Help... Search >>>> Documentation" to look for help topics such as "stereo image"). I think >>>> journals usually show the "wall-eye" type of stereo, which can be >>>> achieved >>>> by saving one image in the wall-eye stereo mode, or by saving separate >>>> left >>>> and right views and placing them side by side with the left-eye view on >>>> the >>>> left and the right-eye view on the right. >>>> >>>> (3) just show the surface, adjust clipping and depth-cueing as Jason >>>> suggested, and use your artistic and scientific judgement as to whether >>>> it >>>> improves your image! There are additional suggestions for improving >>>> surface >>>> appearance in the "Tips on Preparing Images" page. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Elaine >>>> ----- >>>> Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab >>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry >>>> University of California, San Francisco >>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2009, at 2:04 PM, odonnell(a)chem.fsu.edu wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Francesco, >>>>> A couple of cents before the professionals respond with (very >>>>> likely) better ideas: >>>>> >>>>> In response to 1) Black is best for contrast but uses a lot of ink and >>>>> money. >>>>> White should be fine. >>>>> >>>>> n response to 2) If you go to TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=>CAMERA, you can >>>>> select various camera modes. CROSS-EYE stereo will put your chimera >>>>> graphic into cross-eye stereo. You can save an image as it is >>>>> displayed on the screen. But i find saving two images, stereo left eye >>>>> and stereo right eye better. Place these side by side in another >>>>> graphic program, (e.g Adobe illustrator) and voila, stereo viewing. >>>>> With two single images you can switch them around to alternate between >>>>> wall-eye and cross-eye. Also, with two images its easier to make the >>>>> distance between them a certain length, as journals are usually >>>>> stringent about how the stereo images are displayed. >>>>> >>>>> In response to 3)I'd to go TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=> SIDE VIEW and >>>>> slide the back and front yellow planes. This will create a slab >>>>> through your object removing other structural elements which might >>>>> complicate the image. Also, >>>>> try DEPTH CUEING under TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=> EFFECTS. tweak the >>>>> "start ratio and yon intensity to further remove emphasis on unwanted >>>>> objects. The Depth effects can make some really neat graphics >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> -Jason >>>>> >>>>> Quoting Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would greatly appreciate advice about the following requests >>>>>> (between "".."") by the referees (interaction between two proteins; >>>>>> graphics by chimera): >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) "there is way too much wasted black space in figures". >>>>>> >>>>>> As the complex of proteins is elongated along one axis, I found it >>>>>> unavoidable to have wasted space around. Perhaps using a white >>>>>> background in the hope that white is less offending than black? Or is >>>>>> it a way to tailor the background according to the shape of the >>>>>> object? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) "a stereoview might be helpful for better understanding". >>>>>> >>>>>> How to fulfill this request with chimera I have no idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) "a molecular surface representation of the docking site would be >>>>>> useful". >>>>>> >>>>>> I read on passing about molecular surfaces on this forum. Is that >>>>>> feasible for the highly complex situation of 3D perspective with so >>>>>> many atoms at different "layers"? >>>> >>>> >> > >

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Letter Reference for Amino Acid Atoms
by Sarah Himes 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hi, My name is Sarah Himes. I'm a graduate student at the University of Maryland. I'm researching alkaline phosphatase for an advanced course. I'm using the file 1ALK in Chimera. I'm pretty familiar with Chimera but I had a question regarding the letter notation of amino acid atoms when you scroll over them. Here are some examples: His370 (NE2) Ser102 (CB) Ser102 (N) Asp327 (OD1) Asp327 (OD2) Glu322 (OE2) My question is, what do the letters in parentheses mean, what do they correspond to? When these letters show up in Chimera, there are no parentheses. I look forward to hearing from you shortly. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Sarah Himes shimes(a)umd.edu 240-285-1251

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drawing parallelepiped
by Elaine Meng 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > For mono view figures, I wonder whether Chimera allows enclosing the > model in a parallelepiped. This would confer a sense of depth to a > very complex model (a complex of two proteins, partly in a lipidic > membrane. Hi Francesco, There are a few different possibilities: (a) make a PDB file with "atoms" at the corners and the desired bonds (described in CONECT lines), show as wire or stick. The Crystal Contacts tool uses that trick, but is unlikely to generate what you want in this case. You could try creating it interactively with markers and links using Volume Tracer, but probably just creating a PDB file in a text editor would be easier. (b) make a file in BILD format describing the parallelpiped outlines -- requires similar information as the above: coordinates of points at the corners and which points should be connected <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/bild.html> both (a) and (b) require you to figure out coordinates for the corners yourself... (c) a devious but easy way if you don't mind a rectangular box (all angles 90 degrees) is to use the "molmap" command to create a density map from the displayed atoms, but hide that map's contour surface and just show the box around it. For example, use the command: molmap @/display 2 <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/molmap.html> Then in the Volume Viewer dialog that appears, choose "Features... Data display options" and turn on "Show outline box" and also choose "File... Remove Surface." In that dialog you can also specify the color and linewidth of the outline. For conveying depth, you can also try adjusting the clipping planes in the Side View. If you put the back one closer to the atoms, the depth cueing "fog" will be more obvious. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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coloring the clipped surface
by Elaine Meng 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

On Feb 22, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Harinathachari Bahudhanapati wrote: > Dear Elaine, > Chimera is getting more exciting to work with than > ever. I think you guys are the best in the field. > About per-model clipping... > > When I tried, I was not able to find how to color the clipped plane > based on atom B-factors? I was able to give a color (single color) > only > but not based on atom B-factors or other attributes like SAS, SES, > electropotential. > I am not sure if modeled PDB files still have B-factor details. I saw > an image on the chimera website on the feature highlights (B-factor > coloring) and I wondered if I can get few more details on this > feature. > I am trying to make a few pictures for my paper. > Thank you elaine, > sincerely, > Hari > Dear Hari, Thanks for your kind words! Yes, there is a trick to coloring planar surface caps by B-factor or some other attribute, as in that figure: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/2gbp-bfactor.png> First, color the atoms by the attribute (Tools... Depiction... Render by Attribute), which would also color the actual molecular surface but not the planar cap where it is clipped. Then, select the atoms and use Color Zone (also under Tools... Depiction) to color the planar cap to match the nearby atoms. Render by Attribute: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/ render.html#render> Color Zone: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/colorzone/ colorzone.html> I've been wanting to write a tutorial on how to make that figure, but haven't had the time! I also increased the "mesh subdivision factor" in the Surface Capping dialog to 3. Coloring by electrostatic potential is different than coloring by an atom attribute. To color the planar cap by electrostatic potential, you would use Electrostatic Surface Coloring, but it requires a potential map previously created with some other program such as DelPhi. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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multiple coloring
by Anindito Sen 19 Feb '09

19 Feb '09

Dear All Please share with me as how to put multiple color to several pdb structures docked in a density map. Best Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Re: [Chimera-users] defining a putative binding site
by Elaine Meng 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi Francesco, If you want detailed information about which atoms contact which, and the distances between them, use the "Find Clashes/Contacts" tool, or its command version "findclash", as discussed in several previous posts: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-November/ 003260.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/ 003163.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/ 003183.html> There are links in those posts to the manual pages and a tutorial with an example. Some of those discussions were about finding contacts for a ligand, but the findclash feature is general and can be used on whatever set of atoms/residues you want. Again, you can save results to a file or write them to the Reply Log. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi Elaine: > > By doing as indicate in your and my post, only residues (45 residues) > for model 0 (the bigger protein) are listed. Then I also commanded: > > sel #1:1701-1793 & 0:20,30-40,55 z<5 > > i.e., inverting the order of the two models. That gave a list of > residues (18 residues) for only model 1 (the smaller protein). > > Probably all that is useful information. But, is any way (one touch, > as above) to get information about which-to-which? > > I am not too lazy, I am prepared on the basis of the above two > listings, to use the zone command residue per residue, should this be > the way. > > (the numbers for the above residues are just for a split example; > actually I set all residues - even for areas that I knoe are not > involved - in the zone command for both proteins) > > Thanks > francesco >

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defining a putative binding site
by Francesco Pietra 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi: I need to define a putative binding site for a smaller protein upon a larger one. The task is creating a table of likely interactions between residues of the larger proteinseparated by less than 5 A from those of the smaller protein. Deriving from molecular dynamics, all residues for both proteins are in the same pdb file, alongside lipid, water, etc. I wonder whether the most appropriate way is to separate in two different pdb files the lines belonging to the two different proteins. Then: sel #0:20,30-40,55 & #1:1701-1793 z<5 where "0" is the larger and "1" is the smaller protein. If OK, can the results be obtained in a table form? Thanks francesco pietra

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Re: [Chimera-users] color changes
by Elaine Meng 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jean-Paul Armache wrote: > hello, > i have one question concerning color manipulation in chimera. > every pdb file one opens gets a specific color (if set so). so, > having a few of them open, one can distinguish > between them color-wise. > now, when one selects the files, it is possible to change the color > via actions->color. this indeed changes all > of the things selected, and if the whole pdb was selected, all the > chains there. when one looks then into the > model panel, the old colors are still there - untouched. this would > be reasonable in the case when only parts > of the pdb were selected and re-colored. however if one selects > whole files and changes the colors - is it > possible to have these colors changed also in the model panel? and > is it possible to revert to the old color > once changed through this action menu? > > best regards, > jean-paul armache Hi Jean-Paul, It is because there is a coloring hierarchy: the Model Panel shows the model color, but you can also set atom colors, whichoverrule and hide the model color. As you found, Actions... Color and the "color" command set the atom colors (otherwise you would not be able to make different parts of the same model different colors). If you already colored the atoms of a model, you can "uncolor" some or all of them to reveal the model color using the command "~color". Another way is to choose "Actions... Color... from editor" and then click the "No Color" button in the Color Editor. (The Color Editor can be found in the menu under Tools... Utilities) You can change the model color with the command "modelcolor" or by clicking on the square color wells in the Model Panel to call up the Color Editor. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/coloring.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/hierarchy.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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surface view of large file in chimera
by G.-Q. Hu 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hello, I am trying to show a large file by surface view in chimera. But I found that the structure lost the detail and the surface was smoothed. I guess there is a sampling problem for large file. Is there any way to view the large file at the original resolution? Thanks. Guiqing

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Volume->Fit in Map question
by Keren Lasker 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

hello, Is there a way to fit a density map to a pdb rather than a pdb to a density map ? Or in other words, that in the end of the fitting procedure the map would move to best fit the model rather than the other way around. thank you, Keren Lasker.

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configuration file for chimera
by Bala subramanian 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Dear chimerians, Sorry if this question has been asked before. Where can i fix the default parameters for chimera. I explored the preferences option in favourites menu and set chose some preferences. In addition to that I want to the following like setting the color of carbon atoms as green as default setting the color of hydrogen atoms as white as default setting some macros setting the command line option when the chimera starts up (every time i go to favourites and click command line to invoke it) and other settings something like the configuration file used for vmd (.vmdrc ). Thanks in advance, Bala

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stereo view
by Francesco Pietra 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

Hi: I would greatly appreciate advice about the following requests (between "".."") by the referees (interaction between two proteins; graphics by chimera): 1) "there is way too much wasted black space in figures". As the complex of proteins is elongated along one axis, I found it unavoidable to have wasted space around. Perhaps using a white background in the hope that white is less offending than black? Or is it a way to tailor the background according to the shape of the object? 2) "a stereoview might be helpful for better understanding". How to fulfill this request with chimera I have no idea. 3) "a molecular surface representation of the docking site would be useful". I read on passing about molecular surfaces on this forum. Is that feasible for the highly complex situation of 3D perspective with so many atoms at different "layers"? Thanks indeed for answering francesco pietra

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Consurf .chimerax file under linux
by Boaz Shaanan 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera 3D labels
by Elaine Meng 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:53 AM, nettles wrote: > > Dear Elaine, > I'm thinking this should be possible, but don't know how to do it. > Can the labeling function in Chimera could be made more spacially > flexible? > > An example is below. The residue label coordinates are anchored to > a fixed 3D point that may, or may not be desirable for a given > view. Can this be adjusted? > > It looks like these references may be set at centroids. Maybe one > could have a toggle switch that sets the anchor projected a certain > distance from a C-alpha along the viewing vector. That might give > quick access unified text float-over > > Thanks again for such a great tool. > Jim [attachment removed by Elaine] Dear Jim, I am frequently irked by the same issue. Currently residue labels are anchored at the centroid of the displayed atoms, whereas sometimes it would look better if they were anchored at the alpha- carbon. I've previously created a bug report about this. Longer term we would also like them to be movable with the mouse, but that also can't be done currently. Here is the bug/request tracking info: http://socrates2.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/ticket/6866 http://socrates2.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/ticket/167 One current workaround is that you can label some particular atom in the residue with residue information. However, currently that atom must be explicitly displayed (won't work to label some backbone atom if ribbon is shown and suppresses that atom... which I've also complained about!). Commands to do that: labelopt info residue la @ca [or if ribbon is shown, "la @cb" instead if you can live without the glycine residue labels] I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Animating a C-alpha chain trace
by Tom Goddard 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

Hi Matt, A Python script can make a chain trace movie with density display that adds one residue at a time. I've attached an example script and movie. I used the today's Chimera daily build that has a nice 1-layer transparency option. That won't work in earlier Chimera versions. Tom Matthew Dougherty wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Over the last couple years I have moved my animation off the > SGI/IrisExplorer to Chimera/Amira. > > I have one piece of code on Explorer that I have not moved; attached > is a typical animation. > > what is being accomplished is a demonstration of the folding of a > protein based on c-alpha backbone and related density. > starting at the first residue, it proceeds by adding one residue at a > time. > > How would you suggest to move this to chimera? > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Trace C-alpha backbone adding one residue at a time and show simulated map. # pdb_path = '/usr/local/src/staff/goddard/pdb/pdb1fav.ent' resolution = 5.0 # Simulated density resolution, Angstroms map_color = (.6,.7,.8,.3) # red,green,blue,opacity. from chimera import runCommand # Open model from chimera import openModels as om m = om.open(pdb_path, 'PDB')[0] # Orient molecule runCommand('turn y 90') runCommand('turn x 30') # Color molecule and background runCommand('rainbow') runCommand('set bg_color white') # Create residue number label runCommand('2dlabel create rlab xpos 0.1 ypos 0.9') # Set display style. runCommand('repr stick #%d' % m.id) m.stickScale = 5.0 # Fatter sticks # Order residues by number and chain id. rlist = m.residues rlist.sort(key = lambda r: (r.id.position, r.id.chainId)) # Hide all atoms. for a in m.atoms: a.display = False # Show density adding one residue at a time. from MoleculeMap import molecule_map atoms = [] map = None for r in rlist: # Accumulate atoms from residue. atoms.extend(r.atoms) # Close previous map. if map: om.close([map]) # Make map. map = molecule_map(atoms, resolution, gridSpacing = .2*resolution, showDialog = False) map.set_parameters(surface_colors = [map_color], one_transparent_layer = True) map.show() # Display backbone atoms. for a in r.atoms: if a.name == 'CA': a.display = True # Update residue label text = 'chain %s residue %d' % (r.id.chainId, r.id.position) if r.isHelix: text += ' helix' elif r.isSheet: text += ' sheet' runCommand('2dlabel change rlab text "%s" color black' % text) # Draw one frame. runCommand('wait 1')

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Re: [Chimera-users] Command Line - Slecting Zone Parameters
by Elaine Meng 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Thiruvarangan Ramaraj wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to find all the atoms that lie within a certain > distance from a selected chains. I am able to do this by going to > select -> zone and giving the distance I want and selecting all the > atoms that met my criteria. I would like to do this on command > line. I am unable to figure it out. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You > Thiru Ramaraj Hi Thiru, The following command would select all residues with any atom within 4.5 angstroms of your current selection: select sel z<4.5 You could use "za" instead of "z" if you want an atom-based cutoff instead of whole residues, > instead of < to get the atoms farther away, and of course, a different distance. Also, you don't have to use selections. For example, this would color all atoms within 5 angstroms of chain A red: color red :.a za<5 Description of command-line zone specification: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/midas/ atom_spec.html#zones> More examples appear in various tutorials: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ attributes.html#part2> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ squalene.html#surfaces> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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maps handling
by Benoit Zuber 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Hi, I want to handle a large number of small density maps (around 1000 maps of approx 50x50x50 pixels). I need to group them (in around 5 groups). Then I need to treat all the maps of each group in a certain way. For example, I would like to change the level threshold for display, or the display style for every maps in a group at once. Also I would like to show or hide all maps of a group at once. The maps are not opened in an order related to their group. I remember someone recently suggested model 'folders' as a new functionality. Has this been incorporated in the latest versions of chimera? Even if it is the case, It would be too tedious to have to click on each individual model to assign it to a group. Similarly a simple command passed at the command line wouldn't be very elegant: I would have to write each volume number since they are unsorted. I suppose a python script would be much more appropriate. The script would have some functions to do tasks like those described above on each members of a group and a function to read group composition from a text file. I looked in chimera's programmer guide for a section on volume handling but I couldn't find much material on that. Did I miss it? What approach would you recommend? I guess I could use runCommand() but there are maybe better ways. Also the script would have to run in interactive mode. I suppose that IDLE would work for that purpose. How should I do that? Open IDLE and import my module? Where can you define the paths that chimera uses to look for packages? Thanks in advance! Ben -- Benoît Zuber MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology Hills Road Cambridge CB2 0QH United Kingdom +44 1223 402209 bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk

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examples of python scripts
by Bala subramanian 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Dear Chimerians, Can someone help me by providing examples of python scripts written for analyzing structures inside chimera. I have seen the chimera programmers guide but i need some more scripts written for different tasks to understand the way of accessing certain residues or atoms in a structure and extracting its attributes etc. Cheers, Bala

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making movies with CMM files
by Keren Lasker 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

hello, Is there a way to generate a movie out of a set of CMM files ( similar to MD Movie with PDB files)? thank you very much, Keren.

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] alias menu
by Eric Pettersen 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Richmond Timothy J. wrote: > Dear Chimera Developers, > > Perhaps I have missed it, but I would find a menu for selected > aliases very useful. Having returned to Chimera from PyMol recently, > it would be great to have an option for the alias command that > allowed the particular alias to be listed in a separate window and > ran the alias by clicking on the alias name listed there. > > Best regards, > > Tim Hi Tim, As Elaine pointed out in her reply, aliases are frequently used as shorthands for long atom specs rather than as replacements for complete commands. However, the form of the alias command that uses '^' (so that matching only occurs at the start of the line) typically is used to define full command aliases. So my thinking is this: aliases defined with the '^' character would be placed in an 'Aliases' top-level menu (created on the fly as needed). Such aliases would automatically be remembered across Chimera invocations (and populate an Aliases menu). The menu could be torn-off (except on Aqua) to make a stand-alone window. Those aliases could be deleted as normal with the ~alias command (which would remove them from the menu and no longer remember then in subsequent Chimeras). Would this be good enough? --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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script command for writing out areaSAS attribute?
by Julius Su 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

Hello, Does anyone know what script command could be used to output an "attribute assignment file" in Chimera, specifically for the areaSAS attribute? I am trying to show how the solvent accessible surface area on various residues changes over the frames of a multitrajectory PDB file. To do this I am trying to write a small script in "MD movie" that computes the solvent accessible surface for each frame, then outputs the areaSAS values. I was previously able to do this by loading in all the PDB geometries at once, then using the "Render attributes by ..." dialog, but this method does not scale well to very large proteins (the program runs out of memory trying to compute all the surfaces at once). Thus I am trying to do this task sequentially with a script. Thanks much! Julius

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Is it possible?
by Ahir Utsav Pushpanath 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hello Dear Sir/Madam, I am very fond of chimera, and everytime I have looked at scripts for doign things, I find that chimera has them already inbuilt as features. There is one particular problem that I am sure chimera has the capability of doing but I am struggling to do it. 1) I want to use structural superposition servers such as Mammoth etc to produce a structural alignment of two proteins, 2nadA and 1ybaB. However, some of these servers do not produce a sequence alignment output in a format compatible with chimera (i.e such as .aln or aligned fasta). But they do produce a .pdb file showing the superposition. 2) If I load the .pdb onto chimera, sometimes in "model list" window, i see the two proteins, wheras in others I only see 1 model(yet there is clearly 2 models there) 3) I was wondering whether you can load the superposition onto chimera, and see the sequence alignment that gives rise to that structural superposition, so that I may save it as a .aln format using multialign viewer. How do I do this? Apologies if this is a very straightforward scenario. Thanks Ahir

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roll command:
by Bui Khanh Huy 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

Dear all, I tried the roll command with my model (EM map) open: roll z 30 1 center 50,50,50 Chimera showed msg "wait_frames argument not implemented". Just wonder how to implement that command without the error? Huy

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Calc buried surface area between 2 chains
by Tom Duncan 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

I saw an earlier post (Dec. 29, 2008; Digest vol. 68, issue 28) in which Elaine Meng described a procedure for calculating surface area for selected atoms. I did this for atoms on chain A that were selected as contacting atoms on neighboring chain B, but the sum(atom.areaSES) probably includes area buried within the chain A, not just between the 2 chains. I tried checking this by calculating the sum(atom.areaSES) for chain A (all atoms in A) in the whole model, then again for a model from which chain B was deleted before calculating the surface. However, the results indicated a larger areaSES for chain A in the absence of chain B! There were some errors reported in calculating the surfaces; perhaps this contributed. Is there a better way to calculate the buried surface on 1 chain due to contacts with a 2nd chain? Thanks, Tom Duncan

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error message
by Katherine Parra 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hello! I'm trying to get the hydrogen bonds between some selected residues during a trajectory, using per frame commands from tools. But when I get the possible hydrogen bonds formed between the selected residues I also get the following error message in the Reply Log: *Skipping possible acceptor with bad geometry: #0:2108@O Wrong number of grandchild atoms for phi/psi acceptor #0:2108@O *What could be happening? Thank you in advance. KP

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color zone on command line
by Giulia Zanetti 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi all, I would like to make a movie in which areas of my map are coloured while the surface is rotating. Any idea how to use color zone from the command line? thanks Giulia

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fit in map output : coordinate representation of axis, axis point
by Hwang, Youngha,Ph.D. 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, could anyone explain to me what axis points mean in chimera? What unit is used for them? Is it related to the volume dimension? Is the rotation matrix based on Euler-angle representation? Thanks, Youngha. The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.

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3D on Chimera.
by ayassin＠wadsworth.org 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hello, I am trying to use Chimera to model pdb files into EM maps. When I select the red cyan stereo, the EM map is stereo but the pdb structure is not. -Is there anyway to display pdb in stereo in Chimera, how? -Is there another program that would allow me to do the same thing: fit pdb in EM density map-in stereo(other than "O")? -When I use Chimera on windows VISTA the side view panel does not appear and a message about graphic card appear, anyway to solve this? Thank you all very much. Aymen Yassin. Postdoc Research Affiliate Wadsworth Center, Albany,NY. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.

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marker coordinates
by Gabor Papai 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, I would like to do the following: I placed markers on density spots. I want to get their coordinates and excise a box around the marked density and save it as a separate file. For this I would like to know how I can retrieve the coordinates of a marker set and possibly how to position exactly a box around a marker to set a subregion (and of course how to set the dimensions of that box). This second feature existed before, but disappeared in the latest releases with the subregion selection tool in the Volume Viewer. Thanks in advance, Gabor -- Gabor Papai IGBMC Department of Structural Biology and Genomics 1, rue Laurent Fries, BP 10142 67404 Illkirch, France phone +33-3-88655748 Fax +33-3-88653201 E-mail: papai(a)igbmc.u-strasbg.fr

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Volume information
by vamsee 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hello All, I am working on a virus and I am trying to figure out its volume. I would want to find out the volume of the nucleic acid and the water inside the virus capsid. That way, if I am thinking right, that should give me the total internal volume of the virus. This volume would be a constant even with the movement of water in and out. Is it possible to use chimera to calculate any of such data, with no prior information about how the nucleic acid is packed inside? Thanks in advance, Vamsee Graduate Student Dept of Chemistry and Biochemistry Montana State University Bozeman, MT - 59715

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suggested feature/model panel
by Matthew Dougherty 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

1) ability to create folders in the model panel so models can be grouped 2) ability to have a model in multiple folders 3) ability to show/hide in a folder by a a single checkbox 4) ability to name the folder

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How to display automatically the atoms in Gaussian cube file format
by Hyung Jun Lee 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Gaussian cube file formats include the information about each atom's positions as well as the volumetric data. But, Chimera only displays the volumetric data when importing the cube file format. I want to know how to display automatically the atoms whose positions is included in the cube file, together with the volumetric data.

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Mac 64-bit Chimera version
by Thomas Goddard 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi Denis, Conrad Huang in our lab tried building a 64-bit Mac Chimera several months ago. Many of the third-party packages we rely on failed to compile. We decided to pursue this only after Mac OS 10.6 is released. I believe the rationale of that was that Mac OS 10.5 is the oldest Mac OS that supports 64-bit graphical apps. We still support Mac OS 10.4 and our current automated build system targets 10.4. When 10.6 comes out we may target our builds to 10.5. Currently we only provide 64-bit Chimera on Linux. Tom Denis Chrétien wrote: > Dear Thomas, > > We were discussing some time ago about a 64 bit Mac version of Chimera. > Did you progress in this project ? (I'm still very limited for > visualization of large volumes with my mac, although its not a hardware > problem : 16 Gb Ram installed). > > Best regards, > > Denis > > Le 15 mai 08 à 18:41, Thomas Goddard a écrit : > >> Hi Denis, >> >> The Chimera error you reported means there was insufficient memory to >> compute the Fourier transform you wanted. I see from the report that >> your Mac has 18 Gbytes (wow). But our Mac Chimera version is a 32-bit >> program so its memory address space is only 4 Gbytes. In that 4 >> Gbytes has to fit not only data, but all shared libraries, program >> stack and (I think) operating system code. So really you might have >> just 3 Gbytes to work with. Also my Fourier transform code does a >> full complex value FT where it could do a real value FT taking half >> the memory. And the Python library that actually does the FT can only >> use double precision, so 16 bytes per complex value. More memory is >> used when Chimera takes just the magnitude of the FT coefficients. In >> short it is using 20 bytes per grid point. So a 512^3 FT will use 2.5 >> Gb, about the maximum that will fit in the 32-bit address space >> (assuming it isn't already fragmented by other data/libraries since >> you need a 2.5 Gb free block). >> >> We plan on fixing this. We plan on distributing a 64-bit Mac >> Chimera, and have tried compiling it. But some of the ~30 third-party >> libraries Chimera depends on did not compile. So we still need to >> work on that -- maybe within 3 months. Also I plan on making the FT >> code not such a hog, do a real FT and investigate 32-bit float FT >> values for a factor of 4 memory savings. For now your only option >> would be to use one of our 64-bit Chimera versions on Linux or Tru64 >> operating systems. >> >> Tom > > ___________________________ > Université de Rennes 1 > UMR 6026, équipe TIPs > Campus de Beaulieu, Bât. 13 > 35042 Rennes Cedex > France > > Tel. +33 (0)2 23 23 67 64 > http://www.umr6026.univ-rennes1.fr/ > ___________________________ >

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion
by Anindito Sen 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi Tom You are correct! The color dialog does appear as you mentioned! In addition - While using Chimera- the display window keeps flickering when I move the density map/pdb files. What can be a possible remedy to solve the problem? Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908 --- On Fri, 23/1/09, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion To: emailanindito(a)yahoo.co.in Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, 23 January, 2009, 11:35 PM Hi Andy, Sounds like a windowing system problem, not a Chimera problem. If you show the Surface Color dialog (Tools / Volume / Surface Color) and click on one of its color buttons, does the color dialog appear? Tom Anindito Sen wrote: > Dear All > > This may be a bit unusual problem- I am using Chimera (from Daily build) on Ubuntu mounted on my MAC using VMware Fusion (reason- some software packages that run only on LINUX and not on a MAC). The problem is - when I try to get the color panel by clicking on the color tab on the volume viewer- it does not appear. I am not sure if any of you have encountered such problem. > > Thanks > Andy > > > Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >

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need a script
by Bala subramanian 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Dear Chimerians, Kindly help me If anybody has a script to do the following. Given two pdb files, the script should calculate the vector distance between the atoms, say CA atoms and draw an arrow representing the magnitude and direction of the vector. Do i need to add some plugin to draw arrows through atoms in Chimera. Thanks in advance, Bala

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Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion
by Anindito Sen 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Dear All This may be a bit unusual problem- I am using Chimera (from Daily build) on Ubuntu mounted on my MAC using VMware Fusion (reason- some software packages that run only on LINUX and not on a MAC). The problem is - when I try to get the color panel by clicking on the color tab on the volume viewer- it does not appear. I am not sure if any of you have encountered such problem. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Movie Recording
by skmolugu＠miners.utep.edu 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, I am having problems with movie recording. I saved the movie as .avi file and when I upload the movie in to a windows power point slide, it crashes or shows a dark cube. Can you please suggest me a possible solution for this.. Thank you very much for your time. Regards, Sudheer.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Movie Recording
by Sacha De Carlo 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, it sounds lime you're having problems with Windows & Powerpoint, not Chimera... can you play the movie correctly with media player or VLC? Do you have all the video codecs installed correctly? Did you check the Chimera temp directory to see whether the frames have been created? hope this helps. Sacha ------------------------------------------ Sacha De Carlo, Asst. Professor Marshak Building Room 1335 The City College of NY (212) 650-6070 E-mail: sdecarlo(a)ccny.cuny.edu http://www.planetesacha.com/Work.htm ------------------------------------------

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Higher order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Is it possible to assign colors by chain to the surfaces created my the multiscale models tool ? Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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transparency change for a whole model
by Neil Ranson 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Dear All, I am revisiting a movie I made in chimera some time ago with a painfully long script. In this script, I used a command syntax like this: transition transparency #0 0 0.1 1 copy file 'filename' To change the global transparency of model #0 (with lots of different elements all coloured and represented differently) This command seems to have disappeared. Is there an equivalent way now? The only way I can find is to use transparency in the colordef command, but that will be extremely cumbersome. What is the preferred way to fade a model in and out now? Thanks in advance, Neil Ranson Neil Ranson PhD Level 2 Biochemistry Tutor University Research Fellow Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology IMCB University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK. EM Image Processing Suite - Miall 6.02 Tel: 44 (0) 113 343 7065 email: n.a.ranson(a)leeds.ac.uk

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command files
by Matthew Dougherty 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

I have a command file that has a number of reset commands. I would like to 1) interrupt a command file during execution, aborting all further commands, stopping the graphics configuration at the abort (e.g. threshold values, active models, etc) 2) be able to place a hold in a command file, say after the a reset command, and be able to continue the command processing after pressing a key on the keyboard. Does this capability exist? thanks, Matt

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Coulombic Surface Coloring
by Martin Kampmann 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, I saw on the Chimera online manual that there is a Coulombic Surface Coloring function, which displays an approximate electrostatic potential without having to calculate a file with delphi etc. This sounds great and I would love to use the function. However, in the Tools > Surface/Binding Analysis menu, I don't find it. Is it something to be implemented in future versions of Chimera? Or is there a way of using it in the current release (I have version 1.3 build 2577 from December 9) Thanks a lot! Martin

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marginal issues on installation (linux)
by Francesco Pietra 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

hi: replaced hd, installed chimera-1.3.2577-linux.exe on debian i386 lenny ok, though i have to give the full path /usr/local/chimera/bin/./chimera to launch chimera. notice that the directory /chimera is chown to me as user. with previous versions and debian i386 etch (last installation daily built 17 Sept 2008), execution of chimera from anywhere was provided on installation. never mind, are there available env variables for the executable? thanks francesco pietra

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Matchmaker
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Is it possible to retrieve the transformation matrix (or angle of rotation and translation) that the Matchmaker tool used to align two atomic models ?. I know that you can get this information when fitting an atomic model into a density map using the tool Fit in Map and then pressing the Results button. Is there anything similar for the MatchMaker tool ?. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] Protskin
by Elaine Meng 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Patton, John (NIH/NIAID) wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > Do you have any information concerning using Protskin in conjunction > with > Chimera? The only information I have come across applies to PyMol. > Thanks, > John Hi John, I haven't tried Protskin, but my understanding is that its purpose is to map conservation in a multiple sequence alignment to protein display. (Protskin page: <http://www.mcgnmr.ca/ProtSkin/intro/> ) Chimera itself can (A) read your multiple sequence alignment (many formats, just use File... Open) (B) calculate any of several measures of conservation (entropy, variability, etc.) - in the sequence window menu, choose Preferences... Analysis, set "Conservation style" to "AL2CO" to access further options for calculating conservation, which is shown as a histogram above the alignment <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multalignviewer/mu… > (C) show them on your structure(s) with any color mapping you desire, or with "worm" thickness - any open structure(s) will associate automatically with sequence(s) in the alignment - in the sequence window menu, choose Structure... Render by Conservation, change attribute to "mavConservation" and show with color or worms <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/render.html… > Example image, 1bzm colored by conservation in PFAM Carb_anhydrase seed alignment: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/1bzm-al2co-highlight.png > This tutorial includes coloring by conservation: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/super.html> Back to ProtSkin: ----------------- It sounds like ProtSkin emits some file listing the residues and associated values. Certainly you could reformat that into a Chimera "define attribute" file, read it in, and then show the values as in (C) above. Since Chimera already performs the preceding steps quite well and with many powerful options, there hasn't been much impetus to hooking it up to ProtSkin. However, I don't see any barrier other than your needing to convert the output file into the simple "define attribute" format described here: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/defineattrib/defin… > Getting a sequence alignment: ----------------------------- Perhaps you didn't already have a sequence alignment, and find ProtSkin to be helpful in generating one. There are many alternative approaches. For example, the ConSurf server does a great job of automatically generating an alignment of a diverse set of sequences related to your single uploaded structure. (ConSurf server: <http://consurf.tau.ac.il/> ) There are more ideas in this page I wrote on "sources of sequence alignments" for use in Chimera: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/sources.html> I would be happy provide more detailed help on using Chimera to color by conservation as it applies to your system of interest, i.e. feel free to write back. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Rotating about an axis
by Thomas Goddard 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hi Kevin, The command "turn x 23" will rotate active models about the screen x axis by 23 degrees. The command "turn 1,1,0 180 center 0,2.5,2.5 coord #1 models #1" rotates just model #1 by 180 degrees about axis 1,1,0 defined in the local coordinates of model #1 about center point 0,2.5,2.5 also in model #1 local coordinates. The fancier forms of the turn command are only in Chimera 1.4 daily builds. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/turn.html You align multiple structures by aligning them all to one reference structure. You can align specific residues with the "match" command: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/match.html Do do a sequence based structure alignment look at the MatchMaker tool or command: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/matchmaker/matchma… Best to send questions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu. Tom Kevin Koehntop wrote: > Hi Tom, > > In Chimera, how do you rotate a structure along an axis by X degrees? > How is the specific axis selected? Finally, is it possible to align > multiple structures (e.g. their tops, bottoms, centers, etc.)? Thank you > > Kevin

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Docking crystal structure in density map
by Anindito Sen 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Dear All I have docked the crystal structure of a protein monomer manually in the density map ( of a filament) and with some movements done with a long alpha helix(part of the crystal structure) to make a decent fit. However when I generated multiple copies of the docked structure- regions where manual adjustments on the alpha helix were made- came out like thin wires instead of being a ribbon. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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chimera on fedora10
by Bala subramanian 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hello, I installed chimera on fedor10. The installation was done but when I try to open, it gives me the following error. How should i resolve the problem python2.5: can't open file '/usr/local/share/checkOpenGL.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory Thanks, Bala

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Saving a Morph movie
by R. Andrew Byrd 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Greetings, I have been trying to use the Morph tool in the production release from summer 2008. The tool works very well and allows playing the trajectory in the graphics window. However, when I try to save the file as a movie, it consistently crashes. I am running Win XP SP3, on a Dell M1330 laptop. It has also crashed on a Dell desktop running XP SP3. Are there special tricks to saving the movie for use in a Powerpoint presentation? Thanks for any help/suggestions! Andy -------------------------------------------------

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Coloring bonds/sticks independent of the atom color
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Is it possible to color bonds / sticks independent of the atoms so that I could have colored balls corresponding to atom types but have all the sticks connecting the balls/atoms to be a different color or colors. Thanks again, Dave

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precise overlay of ligands
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Hi! I have two ligands in two different PDB files which have a very similar core structure. I have constructed a framework of dummy atoms based on the centroids of several aromatic rings to use as a positioning system for the two ligands. I have three points/dummy atoms for each ligand in space in their respective pdb files and I would like to overlay or map the three points of one onto the three points of the other so I can make measurements in chimera. Is there a simple way to open the two pdb files, select the three points that belong to each ligand and overlay them (maybe even minimize the rms deviation between them with some kind of fit to the plane defined by the three points). I can do this by hand and get them close but not exact. I would also like to be able to calculate the rms deviation between similar atoms in the core structure if possible. Thanks in advance, Dave Chenoweth ********************************************** David M. Chenoweth California Institute of Technology Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering Mail Code: 164-30 1200 California Boulevard, 91125 Pasadena California, USA Phone: 626-395-6074 Email: dchen(a)caltech.edu **********************************************

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Re: [Chimera-users] Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Elaine Meng 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hi Virginia, I definitely tried it myself before sending the message, but in a much newer version (daily build Jan 9, 2009!). However, I just now tried it in both 1.2540 and the most recent production release 1.3 (Dec 2008), and in both of those versions the command works either with or without the pound signs (#). The error message sounds like you have additional models besides the DNA structure with model number 0. If so, I think the command would work if you close those, use sym, and then reopen or regenerate them as possible. You may want to update to a newer version to get other new features, but my experiments suggest it will not affect this particular problem. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Virginia Pett wrote: > Elaine, > Thanks for the fast reply! > > I had tried what you suggested. > sym #0 #0 > and just now I tried > sym 0 0 > and generated error message: > Multiple models with id: 0 > > I am using Chimera ver 1.2540 and perhaps the problem is that I need > to update the software? > > Virginia

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Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Virginia Pett 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I am trying to display PDB file 2O1I, which is a DNA structure. I would like to generate the biological macromolecule with 2 strands of DNA, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do this. The PDB file has BIOMT records in it and I thought I could use the sym command to generate the other strand of DNA. What do I use for the refmol? Is there a tutorial on this topic? Virginia _______________________________ Virginia B. Pett Professor of Chemistry The College of Wooster 943 College Mall Wooster, OH 44691-2363 voice: 330-263-2114 fax: 330-263-2386

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"Extra" hydrogens in Dockprep and addH steps
by CHIU,YEUNG 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Dear colleagues and friends, I notice that during "Tools -> Dockprep" and "Tools -> addH" steps Chimera sometimes will automatically add hydrogens to the positions considered necessary by the program itself. However, these positions do not always really have these hydrogens imposed on them. One situation is when I added hydrogen to the molecule containing nitrogen with lone-pair electrons, Chimera added hydrogen to the position of this lone-pair. One other situation is in the disulfide bond. It seems that Chimera can not recognize the disulfide bond, so hydrogen is added to each of the thiol group, which is obviously inappropriate. I'm wondering what causes these situations and how users can prevent them happening. Any help is appreciated. If you coincidently encountered with similar situation, I'm glad to hear your story as well~ Happy new year and best wishes to your research! Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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Changes after 1.3
by Jon Rumbley 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I noticed you were going to remove the DelPhi interface after Chimera ver 1.3. I have used this interface to generate electrostatic surfaces in Chimera for both teaching and research, will there be something replacing it? Thank you, Jon Rumbley Dr. Jon N. Rumbley Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry/ Dept. of Pharmaceutical Sciences University of Minnesota-Duluth 253C SSB 1035 Kirby Dr. Duluth, MN 55812 Phone: 218-726-7423 email: jrumbley(a)d.umn.edu

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Higher Order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

I have another related question: If I were to deposit a PDB coordinates file of a helical structure, what would be the best place to put helical symmetry information (the file includes the full coordinates for only one asymmetric unit) so that chimera can generate a model with more than one asymmetric unit ?. The idea being to be able to see the contacts between asymmetric units and the symmetry of the complex. Should I use the the SMTRY, or the MTRIX entries ?. Does it make any difference in chimera ?. Thanks Hernando . -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Higher order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hi, Is it possible to use the tools in: Higher Order Structures > Multiscale Models to generate full atomic models (with atoms and all the display capabilities of chimera) from the symmetry entries in the PDB file (SMTRY entries) ? So far I been able to produce only a rough surface representation of the symmetry related molecules. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] delphi
by Elaine Meng 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Hi everybody, I'm happy to report that Chimera (version 1.4 builds Jan 8, 2009 and later) can now read electrostatic potential maps from the Intel Mac version of DelPhi provided by the Honig lab as of mid-2008: <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements> The problem was that part of the potential file was written in double precision. Their group may be updating that executable so that it does not write double precision, but either way, the newer builds of Chimera will be able to read the maps. This does not solve the problem Darren was having, I assume using a PPC Mac rather than an Intel Mac. The PPC Mac version of DelPhi from the Honig lab still requires certain library files that I don't think are freely available. The Honig web site (URL above) does mention this issue. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > Hi Darren, > Unfortunately it is an unsolved problem getting a pre-made delphi > executable for Mac OSX that gives results that can be shown in > Chimera. Just to clarify for everybody, DelPhi is a program freely > provided by another group, but without official support. > > I went through several weeks of trying to get an older executable from > the Honig site to work, installing various files myself just as you > have. Here is the chimera-users message where I describe running up > against this wall: > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2006-November/ > 001113.html >> > > I reported these problems to the Honig group, and some months later > (July 2008) they updated their Mac OSX Intel executable so it does not > require these additional libraries. Maybe you downloaded an > executable before that time or have a PPC Mac rather than Intel. > Honig group DelPhi download page: > <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ > Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements >> > > However, although the Intel executable runs nicely and can be > controlled by DelPhiController, something about the map format changed > and Chimera cannot read the result. We were unable to get information > from the Honig lab on how the format changed, or even reverse-engineer > the changes given our example maps. There is nothing else we can do - > it is a limitation recorded in our database as problem report #6228.

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question about measuring volume via command line and the nogui option
by Bruno Villoutreix 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Dear Chimera Users i am new to chimera, is it possible using something like: chimera --nogui open myfile.mol2 and then i would like to measure the area and volume...but i am not sure which command to use. I can get the surface with this command but to get the volume, i have to use the graphic interface, i do not see either the name of the command in the command history list... thanks if you can give me some advices Bruno

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problem with new release
by Lionel Nauton 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

hi all, I don't know if everyone else have this problem, but i 'm not able to use the last release of chimera (chimera-1.3.2577-linux.exe <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/cgi-bin/chimera-get.py?file=linux/chimera-1.3.2577…>) installation script works well, but when I try to start the program, i have a black screen , and my session shutdown and restart, it seems that chimera fall down my Xorg. I'm working on PC linux ( X86_64), but i used the 32 bits version of chimera, ( test with X86_64 version give the same result), my pc linux work with fedora 10 , i have no problem with chimera-1.3.2540-linux.exe thanks per advance for your answer ================================================= NAUTON Lionel Ingénieur d'études. Laboratoire de Synthèse Et Etude de Systèmes à Intérêt Biologique UMR6504 : université Blaise Pascal – CNRS 24, avenue des Landais – Campus des Cézeaux 63177 AUBIERE Cedex France Tel : 04 73 40 55 06 mèl : lionel.nauton(a)univ-bpclermont.fr <mailto:lionel.nauton@univ-bpclermont.fr> site web : http://seesib.univ-bpclermont.fr/site_web/pageaccueil.htm <http://seesib.univ-bpclermont.fr/site_web/pageaccueil.html> =================================================

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delphi
by Darren Thompson 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

I installed the ibm compiler libraries on Mac OSX tiger, but delphi still does not see them Applications System Folder mach.sym Applications (Mac OS 9) TheVolumeSettingsFolder mach_kernel Desktop (Mac OS 9) Trash opt Desktop DB Users private Desktop DF Volumes sbin Desktop Folder automount sw Developer bin tmp Documents cores usr Library dev var Network etc System mach the opt folder (ibm) is there. I did a symbolic link to the Mac OSX executable in the /usr/local/ release1.1/exe directory to /usr/bin/delphi, downloaded the example files from delphi's website, [psb-232-45:release1.1/examples/example_1] darren% delphi param_1 dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/ibmcmp/lib/libxlf90.dylib Referenced from: /usr/bin/delphi Reason: image not found Trace/BPT trap when I try directly [psb-232-45:local/release1.1/exe] darren% ./delphiMacOSX dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/ibmcmp/lib/libxlf90.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/release1.1/exe/./delphiMacOSX Reason: image not found Trace/BPT trap Does it matter that it's looking for /libxlf90.dylib and I have / libxlf90.A.dylib? Have some xmas charity Help a newb Darren Thompson Graduate Student UCSC 1156 High St. Santa Cruz, CA 95064 831-459-3390 voice 831-459-2395 fax http://people.ucsc.edu/~ministry

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Motivational Posters, Demotivators
by Breann Crenshaw 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Rofl Motivational Posters http://www.roflposters.com

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera - calculating surface area?
by Elaine Meng 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Uli Strych wrote: > Hi Dr. Meng, > I would like to calculate the surface exposed area of only the > hydrophobic amino acid residues for my protein of interest. > I saw your email (at > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2008+03+07+013+raw ) where > you explain how to do so using Chimera. > My problem is the "Attribute Calculator" step, where I don't seem to > be able to find the correct format of entering the formula to > calculate the surface area of the residues that I have previously > selected in the Render/Select menu. Hi Uli, Another necessary step is to show the surface (which creates the surface area values): command "surface" or menu "Actions... Surface... show". You could do that for the whole protein before selecting the residues, or just for the selected residues, either way is fine. That will assign values for the residue attributes named areaSES (solvent-excluded surface area) and areaSAS (solvent- accessible surface area). Then in "Attribute Calculator" you would Calculate attribute [some name, doesn't matter] for [models] Formula: sum(residue.areaSES) with these options checked on: "Restrict formula domain to current selection, if any" (only sum over the selected residues, not all residues) "Open Render/Select by Attribute" (because this dialog will show the answer, the sum value) You want a "models" attribute because you want only one number, the sum over the selected residues. Click Apply (or OK, which would also dismiss the calculator dialog) to calculate the value and show it in the Render/Select by Attribute dialog. Of course, you could use areaSAS instead of areaSES as you prefer. The SES is probe contact and re-entrant surface, and is shown in Chimera. The SAS is where the probe center goes, about 1.4 Angstrom farther out from the molecule, not shown in Chimera. Attribute Calculator manual page: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/calculator/calcula… > This tool is also used in the Attributes tutorial, part 2: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/attributes.html#p… > I hope this helps! Best regards, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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transparent background error
by odonnell＠chem.fsu.edu 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hi, I can't find a previous entry in the archives for an error message i receive when i impose a transparent background. As soon as i read in a map i receive this: Runtime error! ProgramC:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\pythonw.ese R6025 -pure virutal function call Hitting OK I receive... Chimera failed abnormally; the exit code was:255. Thanks in advance for any advice!!!! -Jason ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Still having connection problems with Internet...
by Kenward Vaughan 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hi all, I wrote in once about this, and have only slowly paid attention to it due to busy schedules, kids, etc. I have build # 2576, and the darned thing pesters me for registration ;-) and still cannot connect for DL'ing PDB's from the data bank. I have no proxy server, and this issue did not exist in earlier versions (I'm uncertain how long ago, to be honest... within a year, I believe). The usual error notice shows up on attempted registration, and fetch attempts give a socket error about a service being unknown: Error reading 1d66: Error during PDB fetch: [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known') All other Internet apps I have work well. What else can I try to clear this up? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca

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ubuntu graphics problem
by Elaine Meng 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Fabian reports a Chimera/ubuntu problem and a solution: Begin forwarded message: > > Hi Elaine, > > To save people painful dealing with the newest version of ubuntu, > 8.10, if everybody asks you, chimera has an incompatibility with the > "desktop effects" and "compiz" effects of this version. The only > solution I found (after two days of trials) is to remove compiz (apt- > get remove compiz) and completely disallow the desktop effects > (through system settings). > > Best regards, > Fabian > >> Something more urgent, I have recently updated my kubuntu system to >> 8.10, and the nvidia graphics card to nvidia-glx-177 (177.80 to be >> precise) which should be the correct one. The problem is that after >> a few seconds of working with some molecule in the chimera window >> (which opens fine), it gets stuck and works very very slowly if at >> all. That is a problem since I use chimera very heavily. Any hint >> you could give me of how to solve the problem would be invaluable. >> Just to mention that I have heard of problems with this version of >> kubuntu, but surely there is a workaround. >>

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anti-aliasing in mac version
by Grigore Pintilie 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

If I'm not mistaken it looks like anti-aliasing is not used in the mac build of chimera... is there a way to enable this? I'm using a Macbook pro with the nvidia card and Mac os X. Greg

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NMR-Style structures
by Eric Pettersen 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Huang, Shengyou wrote: > Is any way for Viewdock in Chimera to open a pdb file with NMR-style > structures so that I can view those NMR-style structures one by one? Yes, you can use ViewDock for that. When ViewDock asks you what the file type is, choose either "Dock 3 or 3.5", "Dock 3.5.x single", or "Dock 4, 5 or 6". Then the normal ViewDock interface will come up. There won't be much information in the various fields because an NMR PDB file doesn't have the embedded information that a DOCK output file does, but nonetheless you can click through the list of structures like normal. Another possibility is to open the NMR file as a trajectory (MD/ Ensemble Analysis->MD Movie) and play through the conformations that way. You could also use other analysis capabilities of the MD Movie tool, such as the RMSD map function. You might also want to try out the Ensemble Cluster tool, which will cluster your NMR ensemble and let you look at representative structures from each cluster. It sounds like you have a lot of conformations, so the Ensemble Match (compare your N structures in an NxN table) and Tile Structures (show all the conformations at once tiled in a grid on the screen) are probably not as useful as they would be for smaller ensembles. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Stereo view
by Eric Pettersen 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Huang, Shengyou wrote: > Another question is how to see a stereo view of a structure in > Chimera. Do I need a pair of special glasses for that? You can use the Camera tool (Stereo) to make Chimera show either a cross- or wall-eyed stereo view. You don't need special glasses to use those modes, but you do need to be able to cross or unfocus your eyes (respectively) to get the two images to merge. Some people have difficulty doing that. The other stereo modes mentioned on the page I linked to do require special glasses, and are described in detail on that page. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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info about energy in the minimize module
by Bruno Villoutreix 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Hello not sure this is the right place to ask... when running minimization in Chimera, do you have a window that show the energy values before and after the process ? or should this be done via a terminal window using the nogui option ? maybe the info is here around but could not find it so far many thanks Bruno

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possibilities to save parts of models (selection)?
by Sebastian Kruggel 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

Hi all, is there a simple way to save incomplete models (eg the current selection)? The write command seems to work only with complete models and not with atomic specifications and the split command does only give me the possibility to split complete chains. Probabaly I just don't see something *very* easy... Thanks for help! Sebastian -- Sebastian Kruggel Institut für Pharmazie Bundesstr. 45 | Raum 112 D 20146 Hamburg Tel +49(0) 40 42838 3626

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Eric Pettersen 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:43 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Eric, > Thank you very much for the ellipsoid script! I really appreciate > your help and I think this will do the trick for now. I have been > learning some python on my own and I was wondering if you have some > good beginner examples of scripts for making geometrical shapes, > changing size and color, orientation, etc. that work in chimera. Hi David, You can show cones, arrows, boxes, and a variety of simple geometric shapes by opening a BILD format file in Chimera: BILD format. It may be a little awkward having a script write a temporary file, so instead you can use a StringIO object, as described here: [Chimera-users] BILD object question You can also use the 'shape' command to draw spheres, cylinders, and icosahedrons. You can run any Chimera command from Python by using Chimera's 'runCommand' function, e.g.: from chimera import runCommand runCommand("shape sphere center ligand color dodger blue radius 25") Feel free to ask more questions! --Eric

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Tom Goddard 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hi David, Ok I see now, it's a matter of choosing the size of each ellipsoid to have a 50% chance of finding the atom in that volume. This shouldn't be too hard but I'll let Eric tackle it if he has time. Tom David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Here is the description of the thermal ellipsoids and option to change > the probability lavel from the Raster3D page. > > -prob Plevel > By default, isosurfaces are drawn to enclose the 50% probability > level in the probability density function described by the Uij values > in the ANISOU record. The -prob option allows you to select a > different probability level instead. If 0<Plevel<1 this value is > interpreted as a fraction; if Plevel > 1 this value is interpreted as > a percent. > > http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/raster3d/html/rastep.html > > -Dave > > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> By probability level do you mean occupancy? You could change the >> script to show only atoms with > 50% occupancy by changing: >> >> for a in atoms: >> perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) >> >> to >> >> for a in atoms: >> if a.occupancy > 0.5: >> perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) >> >> Tom >> >> >> David Chenoweth wrote: >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> Thanks for the script and all the help. The script works great, but >>> I was just wondering if there is a way to set a probability level >>> (50%)? >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Dave >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: >>> >>>> The script for drawing aniosotropic b-factor ellipsoids makes uses >>>> 1280 triangles per ellipsoid surface which slows down your graphics >>>> for cases with more than 1000 ellipsoids. You can reduce the >>>> "subdivision_levels = 3" in the script to "subdivision_levels = 1" >>>> to use just 80 triangles, or to a value of 2 for 320 triangles. >>>> The number of triangles controls how smooth the ellipsoid looks (T >>>> = 20 * 4^S, S = subdivision_levels). >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Pettersen wrote: >>>>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chimera team, >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved >>>>>> problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display >>>>>> anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. >>>>>> Our small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is >>>>>> starting to use Chimera and I think small molecule >>>>>> crystallography labs in general would use Chimera more if this >>>>>> feature were available. I do have to admit that I am interested >>>>>> in this feature for selfish reasons. I am using Chimera for >>>>>> several publications and for the graphics in my thesis which, has >>>>>> to be finished in the next couple of weeks, and I would really >>>>>> like to use this feature. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> Yes, reading/preserving the ANISOU info lays the groundwork for >>>>> eventually showing anisotropic ellipsoids. There's still a lot of >>>>> work to go before showing the ellipsoids becomes a usable feature >>>>> of Chimera. It might make it into our next release (middle of >>>>> next year) and it might not. As a stopgap, I've attached a script >>>>> that will show ellipsoids for any currently selected atoms. You >>>>> can run it by simply using File->Open or the "open" command. The >>>>> first two lines of the script control the size and color of the >>>>> ellipsoids, so change them if you like. The script leverages some >>>>> code that Tom Goddard wrote for showing principal axes of inertia >>>>> as an ellipsoid. >>>>> Good luck with the thesis! >>>>> >>>>> --Eric >>>>> >>>>> Eric Pettersen >>>>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chimera-users mailing list >>>>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >

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making ribbon representaiton
by Bala subramanian 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Hello all, I have a pdb file of a RNA duplex containing only the Phosphate atoms. How to make chimera to draw the ribbon representation. This is possible in vmd by using Tube as graphic style but i want to know if i can make it in Chimera too. Bala

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length of a curved alpha helix
by Anindito Sen 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Dear All I was wondering as how can I measure the length of "curved" alpha helix. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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problems before even getting to the plate...
by Jon Kenniston 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Howdy, Trying to run latest Chimera release version 1.3.2577 on my OSX 10.4.11 with X11 version 1.1.3 and while the chimera program opens, I cannot open a PDB (or at least I can't see the opened PDB - no error message, and bottom left of chimera screen states "Opened XXX.pdb" for about a minute until it goes to blank). Should I try installing an older version of chimera? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jon

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Tom Goddard 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Hi David, By probability level do you mean occupancy? You could change the script to show only atoms with > 50% occupancy by changing: for a in atoms: perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) to for a in atoms: if a.occupancy > 0.5: perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) Tom David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for the script and all the help. The script works great, but I > was just wondering if there is a way to set a probability level (50%)? > > Thanks again, > Dave > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > >> The script for drawing aniosotropic b-factor ellipsoids makes uses >> 1280 triangles per ellipsoid surface which slows down your graphics >> for cases with more than 1000 ellipsoids. You can reduce the >> "subdivision_levels = 3" in the script to "subdivision_levels = 1" to >> use just 80 triangles, or to a value of 2 for 320 triangles. The >> number of triangles controls how smooth the ellipsoid looks (T = 20 * >> 4^S, S = subdivision_levels). >> >> Tom >> >> >> Eric Pettersen wrote: >>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Chimera team, >>>> >>>> It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved >>>> problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display >>>> anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. Our >>>> small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is starting >>>> to use Chimera and I think small molecule crystallography labs in >>>> general would use Chimera more if this feature were available. I do >>>> have to admit that I am interested in this feature for selfish >>>> reasons. I am using Chimera for several publications and for the >>>> graphics in my thesis which, has to be finished in the next couple >>>> of weeks, and I would really like to use this feature. >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> Yes, reading/preserving the ANISOU info lays the groundwork for >>> eventually showing anisotropic ellipsoids. There's still a lot of >>> work to go before showing the ellipsoids becomes a usable feature of >>> Chimera. It might make it into our next release (middle of next >>> year) and it might not. As a stopgap, I've attached a script that >>> will show ellipsoids for any currently selected atoms. You can run >>> it by simply using File->Open or the "open" command. The first two >>> lines of the script control the size and color of the ellipsoids, so >>> change them if you like. The script leverages some code that Tom >>> Goddard wrote for showing principal axes of inertia as an ellipsoid. >>> Good luck with the thesis! >>> >>> --Eric >>> >>> Eric Pettersen >>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >

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(Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by David Chenoweth 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Dear Chimera team, It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. Our small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is starting to use Chimera and I think small molecule crystallography labs in general would use Chimera more if this feature were available. I do have to admit that I am interested in this feature for selfish reasons. I am using Chimera for several publications and for the graphics in my thesis which, has to be finished in the next couple of weeks, and I would really like to use this feature. Thanks in advance, Dave Chenoweth ********************************************** David M. Chenoweth California Institute of Technology Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering Mail Code: 164-30 1200 California Boulevard, 91125 Pasadena California, USA Phone: 626-395-6074 Email: dchen(a)caltech.edu **********************************************

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drawing a symmetry axis
by Philip Wurm 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Hi, i have a protein dimer and i would like to show the symmetry axis. I found a script in this mailing list: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/003140.html which works quite nice. But i would like to have a nicer representation of my symmetry axis, not this two slabs. Just a line or thin rod would be nice. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Philip

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Re: [Chimera-users] problems before even getting to the plate...
by Jon Kenniston 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Thanks guys, I have it working now. The problem was with the specific type of PDB I was using. Incorrect info from a labmate... Jon On Dec 12, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Tom Goddard wrote: > I also tried 1.3 on a PPC Mac 10.4.11 desktop in the lab and it > correctly displayed PDB files. > > Tom > > Elaine Meng wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> I just tried Chimera Mac/X11 version 1.3 build 2577 on a Mac >> laptop, OS 10.4.11 along with X11 1.1.3, and was able to open >> various PDB files (local and fetched from the RCSB) and manipulate >> them. Must be something else in the details of your system - >> perhaps it will be evident from the information that comes with >> the bug report. >> Best, >> Elaine >> >> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Greg Couch wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jon Kenniston wrote: >>> >>>> Howdy, >>>> >>>> Trying to run latest Chimera release version 1.3.2577 on my OSX >>>> 10.4.11 with X11 version 1.1.3 and while the chimera program >>>> opens, I >>>> cannot open a PDB (or at least I can't see the opened PDB - no >>>> error >>>> message, and bottom left of chimera screen states "Opened XXX.pdb" >>>> for about a minute until it goes to blank). Should I try >>>> installing >>>> an older version of chimera? Any help would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>> Please use the Help / Report a Bug dialog to get this bug into our >>> bug >>> database. It will tell which model Mac you have and what >>> graphics card it >>> has, so we can try to reproduce the bug locally on similar hardware. >>> >>> The next step would be to try the 1.3.2577 Aqua version of >>> chimera. And >>> if that doesn't work, then try an older version. If one or none >>> of those >>> work is important to know too. All of the versions can coexist >>> on your >>> Mac if you give each version of chimera a different name. >>> >>> Greg Couch

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Worm color gradient
by Markus Voehler 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

The worm tool has many wonderful options to adjust the ribbon size according to the b-factor or occupancy, including the options of abruptly changing the radius for each residue or a smooth change. It also allows to change the colors varying on the values used. I can not find an option to display smooth transitions for the colors that would correspond to the smooth transition of the radius. All I see is the color changing abruptly for each residue. Is a smooth color transition available? Sincerely, Markus

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