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Re: [Chimera-users] accuracy of fitting atomic structure in density map at different resolution
by Tom Goddard 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Hi Andy, Do you mean how much fits vary depending on EM map resolution? I suppose you could apply Gaussian filtering to the EM map to produce a lower resolution EM map, then fit your atomic model, then see how much motion and rotation there is of a fit at one resolution from a fit at another resolution. All that is easy in Chimera. To compare different fits I would open multiple copies of the same atomic model and fit one to each different map then use the "measure rotation" command (e.g. "measure rotation #2 #3") to see how much motion there is between fits. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/measure.html#rotation With any other fitting software you could do the same test by exporting the Gaussian smoothed maps from Chimera, fitting with other software, writing out fit PDBs with the other software and then loading those PDBs in Chimera and comparing their orientation. In that case you'd want to use the Chimera "match" command to measure the motion between models (e.g. match #2 #3 showMatrix true, the look in Reply Log for results). The "measure rotation" only reports coordinate frame motions done within Chimera, whereas "match" aligns two atomic models. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/match.html Tom On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Anindito Sen <emailanindito(a)yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Is there any method by which, we can figure out the accuracy of docking of an atomic structure into its EM density map generated at different resolutions and by different software packages? > > Thanks > > Andy > >> Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) >> Department of Cell Biology & Anatomy >> Graduate School of Medicine >> University of Tokyo >> Tel & fax: +81-3-5841-3339 >

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Minimization units
by Elisabeth Ortega 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Dear Chimera dev. team, I have a very simple question regarding Energy Minimization. The energy units are kcal/mol or kJ/mol? In this function, chimera uses the MMTK function to calculate the energy, and, as far as I know, MMTK energy units are kJ/mol (in share/MMMD/MMTKinter.py the units of the length are corrected to angstroms, but the energies don't). I took a look in the previous e-mails of the chimera-users list. I saw some texts that refers to the energy in kcal/mol and I am a bit confused. Thank you for your time. -- Elisabeth Ortega Carrasco, Ph.D. Student Molecular Modelling of Transition Metal Systems Group Lab. C7/153, Chemistry Department Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona Tel.: +34935812857 email.: eortega(a)qf.uab.cat

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Querie: Ligand superimposition
by Graziella Portelli 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Dear Chimera Team Hope this email finds you in good health. I am using UCSF Chimeria for my de Novo drug design disseration. I am still learning the basic functions that this software offers, however have not been able to figure out the following. Basically I need to put into one picture/frame the original ligand or my receptor and the possible ligands (generated by Ligbuilder). They have the same general structure with some changes and I need to superimpose them, but show them at separate levels. Is this possible to do this for only the ligands and not the receptor protein? I eagerly await your reply, Graziella Portelli B.Pharm

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Color Isosurface in Chimera
by Gregor Weiss 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hello, I tried to color different parts of an isosurface obtained by an electron cryotomogram to point out structures more clearly. Unfortunately, I didn't figure out how I can select different areas and color them differently. Which tool fits here the best? I can determine an area and subsequent color all structures in this area with the tool "Color Zone", but I was not able to select another area and choose a different color. Thank you very much for your help! With best regards, Gregor Weiss -- Gregor Weiss, B.Sc. Summer Researchassistant Jensenlab California Institute of Technology, HHMI Mail code 114-96 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 626-395-8848 (phone)

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about the command: match
by 韩晓东 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Dear sir, it is no doubt the UCSF chimera is a very excellent software. However, when i use the command: match iterate 2.0 site2 site1, a problem appeared as follows: unequal numbers of atoms chosen for evaluation. would you kindly share me the skill to deal with this problem. thank you very much for your time. sincerely yours, xiaodong han.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera hbond
by Elaine Meng 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Neha Gandhi <n.gandhiau(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Elaine, > > I was going through your response on chimera mailing list regarding > saving h-bond analyses during MD ensemble/movie. Either one can write > files every nth frame or save log files. Is there a way to put all the > output of the frames one by one in one single file? > > Your help is appreciated. > > -- > Regards, > Dr. Neha S. Gandhi, > Curtin Research Fellow, > School of Biomedical Sciences, > Curtin University, > Perth GPO U1987 > Australia > LinkedIn > Research Gate Hi Neha, Writing the information to the Reply Log does not save a file. You can accumulate multiple sets of results in the Reply Log and then, at the end, save the Reply Log contents to a single file. The "findhbond" command has two separate options to write results to a file ("saveFile true") and to write results to the reply log ("log true"). <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/findhbond.html> You can save the contents of the Reply Log (in menu under Favorites) to a file with its Save button. I hope this helps, Elaine ---------- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco P.S. please send chimera questions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu (CC'd on this message) instead of to me directly - thanks!

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display atom by coordinates
by Bala subramanian 03 Sep '13

03 Sep '13

Friends, I am trying to visualize the md movie of a channel protein. In every frame, i want to display only those ions whose Z coord ranges from -10 to 35 (zcoor of the channel) to make the movie. Is there any simple way ?. Precisely displaying atoms with a condition. Thanks in advance, Bala -- C. Balasubramanian

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Linking two chains in a PDB file
by Maxwell Cherf 03 Sep '13

03 Sep '13

Hi Sir/Madam I have a PDB file of three proteins bound together (in one model). I would like to fuse the N terminus of one protein to the C terminus of another protein by adding a peptide linker between the termini. Is it possible to do this using Chimera? So far, I have built a linker and joined it to one of the termini, but doing that combined the linker and all proteins in the file into one model. Now, I can't connect the free end of the linker to the other terminus because they are part of the same model. Any help would be much appreciated! Best, Gerald Cherf, PhD candidate Cochran Lab Bioengineering Department Stanford University

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problem with SwissSidechain plugin installation
by Thomas Evangelidis 03 Sep '13

03 Sep '13

Greetings, I have a problem with SwissSidechain Chimera plugin in Linux 86_64 (Centos 6.3). I followed the instructions yesterday and could use it to create a D-peptide: http://swisssidechain.ch/visualization/chimera.html However today I can't. I tried to add it several times to Preferences->Tools->Locations without any luck. I even did a fresh install of the current stable release and rebooted but I still can't use it. I remember I encountered similar problems in the past. Do you know what's wrong? Thomas -- ====================================================================== Thomas Evangelidis PhD student University of Athens Faculty of Pharmacy Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry Panepistimioupoli-Zografou 157 71 Athens GREECE email: tevang(a)pharm.uoa.gr tevang3(a)gmail.com website: https://sites.google.com/site/thomasevangelidishomepage/

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help
by rajan sreekanth 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

Hi, I had morphed two conformations (open and close) of my protein using 'Morph Conformations' tool. I want know whether we can save the coordinates capturing the intermediate states? Something like an NMR ensemble consisting of the open-intermediate states-close conformations as a single PDB file? Thanks Sreekanth

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Re: [Chimera-users] building a peptide
by Elaine Meng 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

Hi Kumud, You would just specify the phi and psi angles for "turn" when building the peptide. You can specify a different phi and psi for each residue if you want, in the peptide building dialog. You do not have to use the values supplied for alpha and beta, you can enter any values, as described in the instructions: <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.h…> Also, in a peptide structure that already exists, you can change phi and psi for each residue, either ...by rotating the bond interactively (see the Adjust Torsions tab in Build Structure): <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.h…> or ...by changing the "phi" and "psi" attribute values in the Selection Inspector (select an amino acid residue in a peptide or protein, click green magnifying glass near bottom right of Chimera window to open the Inspector, Inspect: "Residue" and change the values for "phi angle" and "psi angle") <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/inspection.html> However, it is up to you to specify reasonable values. You can check the Ramachandran map by using the "Ramachandran plot" function in the Model Panel (under Favorites in the menu). <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/modelpanel.html> <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/ramachandran/rama…> Although it is possible to build a whole protein with different secondary structures, it would probably have many severe problems (packing etc.) and the basic peptide-building in Chimera is *not* intended for this purpose. You might want to look into using some other program to predict structure instead, or modify an existing protein structure instead of building the whole thing from scratch. There are probably hundreds of programs and dozens of web servers to predict protein structure, but it is beyond the scope of the chimera-users list and my knowledge to discuss the possibilities. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Kumud Agarwal wrote: > Hi, > Thank you for your help. > Is there any way to build a beta sheet in Chimera? How can I introduce > turns in between the strands in beta sheet using the build structure > option in chimera?

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Chimera VTK file reader
by Tom Goddard 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Hi Andrew, I added a VTK file reader -- in tonight's Chimera daily build. It handles vtk structured points files in ascii format like the one you gave me. Your file had many -32768 values which seem to indicate regions where you don't have data and normal data values in a range 0 to 55. This makes the histogram display of data values in Chimera worthless because the data range is 33000 but the meaningful range is 55. Chimera is only able to show the whole range. You might want to use some other value to indicate "no data", like -1 if negative values are not valid. Tom > On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Andrew VanBenschoten wrote: > >> Hi Elaine, >> I hope all is well! Quick question for you: I have a 3D .vtk file (attached) that I want to be able to view in Chimera. This is one of the diffuse scatter maps that we discussed earlier: nearly identical to X-ray diffraction patterns except that the data values are applied to entire voxels as opposed to points. Any suggestions as to what I could try? Thank you so much! >> >> -Andrew >> <out.vtk> > >

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building a peptide
by Kumud Agarwal 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Hi I am very new to Chimera. I am using Chimera version 1.8. I am trying to build a peptide in chimera in beta strand conformation using build structure option but the generated peptide did not show beta strand. Why is it so? Thanks, Kumud Agarwal IIT Bombay India

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Make bonds in a large polypeptide
by Francesco Pietra 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Hello; Is there a limit in the number of atoms when using the function "make a bond"? I was trying that in a polypeptide of 450 standard residues (I made it a single model) and it did not work. Just to not be cryptic, that need arises from having modeled by special techniques the initial portion of the polypeptide. Now I would like to replace that portion with the modeled one. I had restrained with rmsd-colvars the dihedrals of a short stretch of alpha helix, so that I could align the modeled portion with the polypeptide. thanks francesco pietra

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some questions about new features, in particular MD
by Lionel Nauton 24 Aug '13

24 Aug '13

Hello I was very pleasantly surprised to discover a molecular dynamics module in the latest version of chimera, I used already "MD movie" to see the dynamics with NAMD made, but the ability to make dynamic from chimera is a real plus, thank you for that. in spite of this, one thing I do not understand why the minimization phase is parallelizedin the dynamics module and is not in standard mode, is a planned evolution, I'm too impatient? Second, in the latest version (21-08-2013), I can not read trajectories files from GROMACS , I saturate the RAM (16 GB and 7 GB swap) and the program exits.the same dynamics made with NAMD in .dcd formatworks well, any idea ? that's all thanks for your very good job.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Automatic struts for 3D printing?
by Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E] 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Ask and it shall be given! Thanks for the explanation! -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559 Web: BCBB Home Page<http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bcbb.…> Twitter: @niaidbioit<https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> Date: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:44 PM To: Darrell Hurt <darrellh(a)niaid.nih.gov<mailto:darrellh@niaid.nih.gov>> Cc: "chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>" <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Automatic struts for 3D printing? Hi Darrell, You can get struts between a protein and ligand with the current command -- just include the ligand atoms in the argument to the struts command. For example, open 2ghb struts @CA|ligand&element.C This is just a fancier atom specification that says consider atoms named CA or ligand carbon atoms. Here's a picture of the result. [cid:E793C582-C88D-4680-B08B-DC92C52D671B@cgl.ucsf.edu] Another tip. Yesterday I added command "~struts" that removes all struts or "~struts ligand" that removes all struts involving ligand atoms. You can use any atom specifier and remove the struts to those atoms. Tom On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:27 AM, "Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E]" wrote: Hi Tom, I've been playing with the command and it works very well. I really like the "replace" feature for trying several strut options without having to delete the previous ones. Thanks Elaine! You've already given me much. Thank you! One additional feature that we've thought of would be automatically create these kinds of struts to small molecule ligands. The way I thought to do this would be to use the same algorithm you've already implemented, but extend it to check if a ligand is present. If so, then struts would be created from the designated macromolecular atoms (@CA or @P) to the "heavy" (non-hydrogen) atoms of the ligand(s). I think that your "loop" parameter would prevent too many struts from being created. This would make the algorithm even more automated! Thanks! Darrell -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559 Web: BCBB Home Page<http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bcbb.…> Twitter: @niaidbioit<https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net<mailto:goddard@sonic.net><mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> Date: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:46 PM To: Darrell Hurt <darrellh(a)niaid.nih.gov<mailto:darrellh@niaid.nih.gov><mailto:darrellh@niaid.nih.gov>> Cc: "chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>" <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Automatic struts for 3D printing? Hi Darrell, I improved the struts command today so it automatically replaces the previous struts if you run it a second time with the same set of atoms but different parameter values. This avoids having to delete the first set of struts with model panel -- much easier to use. Will be in tonight's daily build. Improvement suggested by Elaine Meng. If you really do want to keep multiple sets of struts for the same atoms use the struts command option "replace false". Tom On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:27 PM, "Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E]" wrote: Hi Tom, OMG! You're amazing! I'll certainly give this a try and let you know how it works. I really like the "loop" parameter. It seems more robust and will produce more evenly spaced struts than the second "distance" parameter I tried to explain. Thank you! Darrell -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559 Web: BCBB Home Page<http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bcbb.…> Twitter: @niaidbioit<https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. From: Tom Goddard Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:06 PM To: Darrell Hurt Cc: "chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>" <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Automatic struts for 3D printing? Hi Darrell, I added a "struts" command to Chimera -- in tonight's daily builds. I've attached your picture of hemagglutinin with struts and a similar picture made with the new struts command and also a picture of a tRNA (4tna) with a small number of struts made in Chimera. [cid:2AFCE3A1-824B-4430-8153-A5616DAE2C5E@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:A5616DAE2C5E@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:2AFCE3A1-824B-4430-8153-A5616DAE2C5E@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:A5616DAE2C5E@cgl.ucsf.edu>>][cid:54ACB2C8-EF27-4A47-A8B0-8718D93CAF28@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:EF27-4A47-A8B0-8718D93CAF28@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:54ACB2C8-EF27-4A47-A8B0-8718D93CAF28@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:EF27-4A47-A8B0-8718D93CAF28@cgl.ucsf.edu>>] [cid:7CBA5018-1ED2-48AD-BD7B-5D6F71E439C4@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:BD7B-5D6F71E439C4@cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:7CBA5018-1ED2-48AD-BD7B-5D6F71E439C4@cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:BD7B-5D6F71E439C4@cgl.ucsf.edu>>][cid:960E041D-8A30-4F42-8DB2-28758F7F411E@cgl.ucsf.edu<http://cgl.ucsf.edu><mailto:960E041D-8A30-4F42-8DB2-28758F7F411E@cgl.ucsf.edu<http://cgl.ucsf.edu>>] The Chimera command for the hemagglutinin model struts is struts @CA length 7 loop 30 I decided to try a different algorithm in Chimera for adding struts from the one in the Jmol code. The Chimera struts command uses two parameters. It finds all pairs of C-alpha atoms within a distance of 7 Angstroms of each other. Then it considers those from shortest to longest distances. It adds a strut if the two atoms the strut would join are more than 30 Angstroms away via bonded connections. Basically it adds struts up to a given maximum length so that C-alphas are connected via bonds and struts by no more than a maximum loop length. The maximum strut length (7 Angstroms) and maximum loop length (30 Angstroms) are the two parameters. For the tRNA model I used 15 and 80 and use P atoms instead of CA atoms (command "struts @P length 15 loop 80"). Here's roughly what the Jmol code does, that I decided not to copy 1) make struts short (less than 7 Angstroms), 2) make struts join residues at least 6 residues apart in polymer, 3) space out struts, ends of different struts no closer than 6 residues, 4) include as many struts as possible meeting spacing and length constraints, 5) put a strut within 3 residues of the end of each polymer. The exact details of how it does this would take a long explanation -- which is my main reason for not copying it. The algorithm of the Chimera struts command is easily and precisely described above and produced reasonable struts for the half dozen test cases I tried. But it may prove not as good as the Jmol approach -- experience will tell -- and I can change it if needed. Here is and example using all available strut command options struts @CA length 7 loop 30 radius 0.75 color blue name struts_7_30 fat true model #5 Any set of atoms can be specified as strut end points, radius is the strut cylinder radius, color is the strut color, name is the name of the pseudo-bond model created for the struts (struts can be hidden using Model Panel), fattenRibbon sets a fatter ribbon style better for printing (can adjust as desired with Ribbon Style Editor, menu Tools / Depiction), modelId is the model number you want for the strut pseudobonds. Struts can span multiple models, or be restricted to just a part (e.g. one chain) of a model. The command will get documented in the Chimera User's Guide. Tom On Aug 16, 2013, at 7:02 PM, "Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E]" wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks. This is some of our best stuff. For our material, the struts are vitally important or the whole thing crumbles. We use so many struts that a script is really important to doing this efficiently. I have no idea how it will work in a monochrome plastic printer. However, there are some plastic printers emerging on the market now that can print in two colors plus a support material. That might help with distinguishing between structure and strut. One idea is to print both the struts and the building supports in the same material and then dissolving all that, leaving just the protein. You're right about the struts being too short. They would be pointless along a helix. So I think there is a hard-coded minimum strut distance to prevent struts within the helix, but a user-settable parameter for the maximum strut distance. This is especially important in protein complexes. The pink and baby blue blobs are glycosylation on the surface of the proteins. These are modeled in using the glycoprotein builder: http://glycam.ccrc.uga.edu/ccrc/gp/index.jsp?tool=crystallography&option=ff 99:glycam06 If you think this is cool, you've got to check out what Kawakami Masaru is doing with 3D printed molecules: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVtE_AS3jbI http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.4739961 Thanks! Darrell -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559Web: BCBB Home Page <http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bcbb .aspx#niaid_inlineNav_Anchor> Twitter: @niaidbioit <https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. On 8/16/13 8:46 PM, "Tom Goddard" wrote: Hi Darrell, Your plastic models are super cool. I'm jealous -- we don't have a color printer. I had no idea you were adding so many struts. I'm afraid it would look less attractive in one color. I see that some models are ribbon only and some have the residues depicted as surface blobs -- none of your pictured models used spheres and cylinders for atoms and bonds. That helps avoid confusing the struts for molecular bonds. I'm a puzzled by your dozens of pink blobs in image 3 and 7 and cyan blobs in image 9 in each case connected by lots of sticks. They look like individual residues but are too far apart to be a polypeptide I think -- maybe many copies of a small ligand? The algorithm for placing struts sounds quite simple. Chimera has ribbon splines that go exactly through the C-alphas, and can also join side chains to a ribbon even when the C-alpha is not on the ribbon. So I think that won't be a problem. The Jmol strut code I looked at looked more complex than what you describe. If it simply chose short distance struts wouldn't you get a bunch of unneeded struts say within one alpha helix, and maybe lack some long range struts that are needed to hold everything together? In any case, if we come up with an algorithm, or just want to copy the Jmol code, it looks very easy to add to Chimera. I can probably do an implementation in half a day. The main thing is to figure out exactly what the algorithm should do. Maybe I can put something in next week. Tom On Aug 16, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E]" wrote: Hi Tom, I've been printing ribbon/cartoon and surface representations of proteins and nucleic acids for many years using a Z Corp machine. I've also done some "ball-and-stick" and "VDW-sphere" kinds of prints. Often we print substrates in "stick" mode and connect the sticks to the ribbon using manually-placed struts. We will continue to use our Z Printer, but we are also buying a "desktop" 3D printer that more people can afford. It is an "FDM" printer similar to the uPrinter your webpages describe. The algorithm used by the George Phillips script is a little different (and perhaps simpler) than the one you describe. It has two parameters: (1) the maximum length of a strut and (2) the minimum closeness of any two struts. The second parameter is a little funky; I'll describe it below. The script first identifies all pairs of C-alphas (or pairs of initial phosphates on the backbone for nucleic acids). Then it creates "pseudobonds" (the struts) between all of those pairs which conform to the maximum length parameter. The next step is to cull the list of pseudobonds according to the minimum distance parameter so that you don't get struts everywhere. Here's where it gets kind of funky because I don't know how this distance is calculated. Either it is calculated from the starting end of a pseudobond (which is what I expect from what I can see of the results of the script) or it does it from center/centroid of the pseudobond. The script also adjusts some parameters to thicken the ribbons, sticks, etc. and increase the triangle count of the exported mesh. This usually works great, but there is one little problem because the struts are calculated to put the ends of the struts at the C-alpha positions. For helices, this usually isn't a problem because the helix ribbon/cartoon goes through the C-alpha position. But for strands which are drawn on a spline of the C-alphas, the struts sometimes either go through or do not reach the ribbon, making the struts useless. Using some standard tools in PyMOL, I force the ribbon to go through the C-alpha positions everywhere there is a strut terminus. In this way, the ribbon and the ends of the struts correspond and the print is strengthened without sacrificing the aesthetics of the splined ribbon. I've attached the results of this script for both the mesh and the actual print (the "ribbon.jpg" and "ribbon.png" images). Of course, printing in monochrome plastic will be different, but that's what we're hoping to experiment with. I've also attached a few other pictures of our prints. George and I have discussed sharing his script with a wider audience or even publishing some kind of technical note about it. He seems willing to share it with certain limitations. Maybe we can all write something together if we build it into Chimera. We might be able to do it internally, but I would have to get my developers more familiar with the internals of Chimera first. I welcome any efforts you or others might make. Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559Web: BCBB Home Page <http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bc bb .aspx#niaid_inlineNav_Anchor> Twitter: @niaidbioit <https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives. On 8/16/13 6:14 PM, "Tom Goddard" wrote: Hi Darrell, Here are some of the molecule models we have printed in plastic. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/Outreach/technotes/ModelGallery/index.html and a description of the printer we used http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/Outreach/technotes/uprint.html Chimera does not currently have any tool to automatically add struts, although I've done this by hand in Chimera. For instance the heptatis B virus pentamer on the above web page had part of an icosahedral cage made from cylinders underneath it to hold the proteins on the virus surface together. One thing you'll see is that all our printed molecules came from surface depictions in Chimera (made with molmap command). I'm not sure if we successfully printed and ball and stick models via STL or VRML. We tried years ago and I recall them falling apart because where the spheres and cylinders intersected it put no plastic. Basically an atom sphere and bond cylinder are two surfaces and for points inside two surfaces (or any even number of surfaces I think) the printer places no plastic. So overlapped cylinders and spheres didn't hold together. This seems to be a printer driver issue -- how it takes a surface and makes a solid out of it. I don't know that we've tried with our newer printers at UCSF -- maybe it works now. Have you successfully printed ball and stick models exported from Chimera? What kind of printer? Now about automatically adding struts -- probably would not be hard. The struts code I saw online http://idp1.force.cs.is.nagoya-u.ac.jp/jmol/src/org/jmol/modelsetbio/Al ph aPolymer.java didn't have a clear description of the algorithm the use, but it would just take an hour to study it. I could see aiming to add struts that 1) are cylinders between atoms, 2) are short, 3) make the whole model one connected piece, 4) make every contiguous N (50) residues connected in at least 3 places (2 probably being continuations before and after and one being a crossbridge) to other residues for rigidity, 5) not put connections at the ends where they would be easily confused for real biological connections, 6) struts should not look like real bonds -- maybe make them fatter or better square cross-section. Actually that rigidity constraint is more complex -- probably don't want to have two large pieces connected to each other through only one bond. I recall printing some ribbon models in ABS plastic with ribbon cross-section pretty small -- half a centimeter. With 100 residues and no cross bridges the model is very flexible and easy to break. Could you provide a picture of a ball and stick model with struts to give a better idea of what you are shooting for? Tom On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:32 PM, "Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E]" wrote: Hi everyone, We are assembling an open data portal or "exchange" for producing "ready-to-3D-print" files for biological molecules, EM data, and other imaging data using some automated pipelines. A little bit more on our project can be found here: http://www.hhs.gov/open/initiatives/ignite/3d-printing-exchange.html A few years ago this came up on the "dev" discussion board: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-dev/2011/000800.html In the email thread above, it mentions a script by George Phillips called "struts.py" that was modified for use in RasMol. I am familiar with his version of this script for PyMOL. It works very well and I have been using it for years. However, the VRML from PyMOL is sometimes buggy. I like the exports from Chimera much better, including the X3D2VRML and X3D2STL utilities. If I could get the same functionality of this "struts" script in Chimera, that would be one less thing I need to go to PyMOL for (the list is getting shorter and shorter!). We're looking at doing it here, but I would welcome any contribution from the Chimera community if something already exists. Do you have anything? Is this script something of interest? Anyone interested in contributing to our "exchange" database/web portal? I would love any feedback you might have. 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Automatic struts for 3D printing?
by Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E] 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Hi everyone, We are assembling an open data portal or "exchange" for producing "ready-to-3D-print" files for biological molecules, EM data, and other imaging data using some automated pipelines. A little bit more on our project can be found here: http://www.hhs.gov/open/initiatives/ignite/3d-printing-exchange.html A few years ago this came up on the "dev" discussion board: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-dev/2011/000800.html In the email thread above, it mentions a script by George Phillips called "struts.py" that was modified for use in RasMol. I am familiar with his version of this script for PyMOL. It works very well and I have been using it for years. However, the VRML from PyMOL is sometimes buggy. I like the exports from Chimera much better, including the X3D2VRML and X3D2STL utilities. If I could get the same functionality of this "struts" script in Chimera, that would be one less thing I need to go to PyMOL for (the list is getting shorter and shorter!). We're looking at doing it here, but I would welcome any contribution from the Chimera community if something already exists. Do you have anything? Is this script something of interest? Anyone interested in contributing to our "exchange" database/web portal? I would love any feedback you might have. Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office: 301-402-0095 Mobile: 301-758-3559 Web: BCBB Home Page<http://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/organization/odoffices/omo/ocicb/Pages/bcbb.…> Twitter: @niaidbioit<https://twitter.com/niaidbioit> Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives.

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Minimization and mystery nonstandard HIS atom name
by Jason L Burkhead 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

I am trying to minimize a protein structure and run into the following error: 'No MMTK name for atom "HND1" in standard residue "HIS"' My .pdb file specifies this atom as ND1, and if I change it to HND1 it still gives me the same error. Does anyone have any suggestions for a solution? The reply log is below: Thanks Jason No incomplete side chains No SEQRES records for COMMD1_C_terminus_c.2.0.pdb (#0) chain A; guessing terminii instead Chain-initial residues that are actual N terminii: GLY 1.A Chain-initial residues that are not actual N terminii: Chain-final residues that are actual C terminii: ASN 73.A Chain-final residues that are not actual C terminii: 42 hydrogen bonds Hydrogens added Charge model: AMBER ff99SB Non-standard atom names: HIS HND1 (HIS 17.A HND1, HIS 22.A HND1) Total charge for #0: -4.000 Correct charges are unknown for 1 non-standard atom names in otherwise standard residues Charges of 0.0 were assigned to the unknown atoms Details in reply log No MMTK name for atom "HND1" in standard residue "HIS"

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] UCSF Chimera Help
by Elaine Meng 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Dear Neil, Chimera does not do docking except for fairly limited single-ligand calculations using an AutoDock Vina web service: you can only dock one ligand at a time and get up to 10 orientations back. You can't search a database of ligands, for example. The interface to the Vina web service is in the menu of Chimera version 1.7 (Jan 2013) and newer: Tools... Surface/Binding Analysis... AutoDock Vina. It is recommended you run other tools first to prepare the receptor before using this tool. See the manual page for details: <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/vina/vina.html> However, Chimera does have a nice "ViewDock" interface for looking at the output from several docking programs that could be run outside of Chimera: DOCK, AutoDock, AutoDock Vina, Glide, GOLD, Mordor. If the fairly simple interface mentioned above does not suffice for what you want to do, you may want to try one or more of those other programs (several are free). The ViewDock man page includes links to their websites; see the "input" section: <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/viewdock/framevd.…> There is also a ViewDock tutorial: <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/vdtut.html> I CC'd the chimera-users list because this is more of a user question than a developer (programming) issue. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:23 AM, Neil Bugeja wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam > > I am a student at the University of Malta and I am currently using your software to carry out homology modelling for my thesis. > > I have a slight problem figuring out how to dock a ligand into a receptor on the program...Is this possible or do I need to install another software? > I tried looking through the available tutorials but cannot find any so far > > Thank you for your help > > Regards

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Re: [Chimera-users] RMSD for two ligands
by Pavithra 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Dear Ma'am, Thank you so much. its working now. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > Dear Pavithra, > Chimera cannot guess which atoms to use when there are different numbers > of atoms in the two groups (#0 and #1). You would have to either > > (A) include all the names of the atoms, in the order you want them > matched, in the rmsd command. It would be something like: rmsd #0:15@c1,c2,c3 > #1:12@c10,c5,c2 (if you wanted to match residue 15 atom C1 with residue > 12 atom C10, residue 15 atom C2 with residue 12 atom C5, etc.). To see the > atom names, show labels, for example command: label #0:15#1:12 > > or > > (B) select all the atoms with the mouse (Shift-Ctrl-click) one by one, > first the atoms you want to match in the first molecule, then the atoms you > want to match in the second molecule in the corresponding order, and then > use "sel" to specify the atoms in the rmsd command > > The "rmsd" manual page can be viewed here (or by using command: help rmsd): > <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/home/meng/docs/UsersGuide/midas/rmsd.html> > > ... and more about how to specify atoms in the command line: > < > http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/home/meng/docs/UsersGuide/midas/atom_spec.html#bas… > > > > I hope this helps, > Elaine > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Pavithra wrote: > > > Dear Users, > > I want to calculate the RMSD of two ligand molecules of different atom > counts but have a common scaffold. > > I tried rmsd #0 #1 > > but I'm getting the error: unusual numbers of atoms chosen for > evaluation. > > > > rmsd #0:15-17 #1:15-17 > > atleast one atom must be selected. > > > could somebody help me to find the RMSD between two ligands of different > atom counts. > > -- > > regards, > > Pavithra.K.B. > > -- regards, Pavithra.K.B.

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RMSD for two ligands
by Pavithra 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Dear Users, I want to calculate the RMSD of two ligand molecules of different atom counts but have a common scaffold. I tried rmsd #0 #1 but I'm getting the error: unusual numbers of atoms chosen for evaluation. rmsd #0:15-17 #1:15-17 atleast one atom must be selected. could somebody help me to find the RMSD between two ligands of different atom counts. -- regards, Pavithra.K.B.

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save colored blobs in session
by Zoltan Metlagel 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Hi everyone, I've been trying to color blobs of different sizes in a tomogram by un-hiding them in order of size using the "hide dust" tool and coloring as they become visible. This has been working well and given me some insight into the structure I'm looking for, but I'm unable to restore the session to it's previous state using the "save session"/"restore session" features. The maps open fine, but all the coloring is lost. I've tried this in Chimera 1.7 and 1.8, with the same results. Am I missing something? According to the online manual, colors should be saved in a session. I apologize if this has been asked before, but I haven't been able to find the solution in the archives either. I'm otherwise very happy with Chimera, thanks for all your efforts. Thanks in advance, Zoltan Metlagel, LBNL

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transparencies within transparencies
by Elizabeth Montabana 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi All I have a difference map that I'd like to have set to 50% transparent overlaid with the original data map set to 70% transparent. If I do this, I cease to see any off the difference map. Is there anyway to accomplish this in Chimera? thanks Liz Montabana Graduate Student Agard Lab, UCSF

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Hide all ribbons not in specific chain
by Thomas Hrabe 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

Hi everyone, I want to display one chain from a structure, only. However, I do not understand how to achieve that. After my PDB file opens, I can do select :*.A #select all residues in chain A that I want to have select invert #select everything else not in chain A ~ribbon hides everything. How can I tell ~ribbon to hide everything not in chain A. Or, how can I select everything not in chain A? I am calling chimera through the socket and do not want to parse out every chain. Thanks in advance, Thomas

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File Operations *veery* slow on Win 7
by Markus Heller 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Hi, I'm running the latest release of Chimera (1.8 build 38824), but I've observed this with the 2 previous releases as well. Computer is a core i7 with 32 GB RAM and an Nvidia Quadro FX 1700 with 512 MB DDR2 memory and latest driver. OS is Windoze 7 64 bit. Pretty much every time I click File --> Save mol2 or Save pdb or Save Session As, I get the blue spinning wheel of death and (not responding) in the window title bar. It's not a deal breaker, but it's pretty annoying. Anybody else seeing this? Also, when I start Chimera, the screen goes black for a second and all window title bars change to standard blue. When I exit Chimera, the process reverses. Are these observations related? And how can I provide more information in addition to my vague description? Thanks and Cheers Markus -- Markus Heller, Ph.D. NMR Scientist CDRD - The Centre for Drug Research and Development 2405 Wesbrook Mall, Fourth Floor | Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z3 | Main: (604) 827-1147 Direct: (604) 827-1122 | F: (604) 827-1299 | E: mheller(a)cdrd.ca<mailto:mheller@cdrd.ca> | www.cdrd.ca [cid:image007.png@01CE950C.D960A9A0] Follow us: [Description: cid:image003.jpg@01CD86A6.39B41A10] <https://twitter.com/C_D_R_D> [Description: cid:image005.jpg@01CD86AE.B197F5D0] <http://www.linkedin.com/groups/CDRD-3186016/about?report%2Esuccess=3NcE4iZo…> [Description: cid:image009.png@01CD86AE.B197F5D0] <https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Centre-for-Drug-Research-and-Development…> [Description: cid:image010.png@01CD86AE.B197F5D0] <http://www.youtube.com/user/CDRDCVI?view_as=public> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, copy, or alter this email.

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