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Nutate or lemniscate program to scenes/animation?
by Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E] 19 Nov '12

19 Nov '12

Hi Chimera folks! I love, love, love the new scene-based animation! I know that it is still under development, but it is fantastic! And the "Animation" utility panel is easy to use and understand. I love the "Rock" and "Roll" "Actions" available in the Animation panel. That goes a long way to making movie-making a point-and-click affair! I would like to suggest or propose one more "Action" in addition to "Rock" and "Roll". It is "nutate" or "lemniscate". It is basically a "rock" in both the X and Y planes at the same time. I think that it can be coded relatively simply with a cosine function about the X axis concomitant to the sine function about the Y axis that is driving the current "Rock". You can see an example of what I'm talking about here: http://youtu.be/55_cmJLe3Is Also, if I could, I would also suggest or propose that the "Rock" and "Nutate/Lemniscate" have a single parameter to control the "width" of the rock or nutation/lemniscation — maybe choices of 15, 30, 45, and 60 degrees or a free-form entry. Thanks for everything you do! Best wishes, Darrell Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office 301-402-0095 Mobile 301-758-3559 http://bioinformatics.niaid.nih.gov (Within NIH) http://exon.niaid.nih.gov (Public) Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented density maps inside a tomogram
by Tom Goddard 16 Nov '12

16 Nov '12

Hi Daniel, Probably you can modify your script and make Chimera open the copies much faster. The python script should also achieve that. The trick with your command script is that between each command Chimera draws a frame and may update the volume dialog histograms. One way to avoid this is put all the commands on one line separated by semicolons. Maybe another better method is have one open command and one transform setting command open template.em template.em template.em ... (repeat for as many copies as you need) matrixset transforms.txt I believe the matrixset command can have the positions for as many models as you want with the model id number specified before the transform. See the Chimera manual or try matrixget to write an example file with several models being displayed to see the precise format when you have multiple transforms. A Python script could be faster still because it wouldn't need to open the same map file over and over. It could create all the map copies from the first. As an example making 100 translated copies of an open 100**3 volume took 3 seconds with the following Python from VolumeViewer import active_volume v = active_volume() from chimera import Xform for i in range(100): c = v.copy() c.openState.localXform(Xform.translation(i*20,0,0)) c.show() Tom > Hi Tom, > > > Yes, both methods that you describe work nicely. In particular, I was > not aware of the possibility of changing the level of a set of models > with a single command line operation: that does help a lot. > > The only actual annoyance that remains in my implementation for the > manipulation of sets of volumes is the loading of the volumes?. I > suspect the way I do it is too rudimentary, as I just open Chimera > passing as argument a .cmd command file that loads the same file again > and again, placing it each time in a different location, i.e: > > open 0 template.em > matrixset transform_0.cmd > open 1 template.em > matrixset transform_1.cmd > > ? and so on for hundreds of models, so that the user basically sees > the Volume Viewer getting updated with a new model and then a new one > for several minutes. I guess with the .py script that you send me I > will be able to load the volumes in a less messy manner than this one. > > Thanks for all the info! > Daniel > > >> Hi Daniel, >> >> I see. You'd like to control the contour level, color, >> surface/mesh style, step size... of all the copies as if they were >> one model instead of 100 different models, each a copy of the same >> map. For making hundreds of copies of an atomic model, the >> multiscale dialog in Chimera does this using a single model. But >> that doesn't currently work with maps. One disadvantage of having a >> single model for all the copies of a map is that the maps will all >> have to have the same color, same step size, same contour level >> because all those properties are stored with the model. Maybe that >> restriction is fine for your use. I would like to make that possible >> by allowing Chimera to place identical copies of any type of model by >> just specifying the list of positioning matrices. The model would >> just remember the list of matrices for the different placements. >> >> For now using a hundred different models of the same map is >> workable. You can't adjust all of them at the same time with the >> volume dialog. But you can adjust one to figure out the contour >> level you like and then use one volume command to set the level for >> all the copies, for example, "volume #1-100 level 1.24 color yellow >> step 2". >> >> Another approach is to make a single map by adding your hundred >> placed copies on a single grid (e.g. the tomogram grid). Then you >> open that one map and all the copies appear. The drawback is that you >> may want finer grid spacing on the individual copies then you have >> with the tomogram, and that would make the map to large and slow to >> work with (and mostly empty). If you are interested in trying this >> approach though you can use a command like "vop add #1-100 onGrid #0" >> to produce such a map after placing the hundred separate models with >> your current script. Then save that new map and use it in the future >> instead of the 100 copies. >> >> Tom >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented >> density maps inside a tomogram >> From: Daniel Castano Diez >> To: Tom Goddard >> Date: 11/15/12 7:12 AM >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> thanks for the helpful explanation. The extension that you mention >>> you've been working on seems interesting. I guess that will allow >>> the user to change the isosurface level in one single model to >>> change it in all the models simultaneously, am I right? This would >>> solve another problem I'm having with my scripts, as they fed each >>> copy of the map into Chimera as a different model. So, I'm looking >>> forwards to trying it when it becomes available. >>> >>> best, >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Daniel, >>>> >>>> You can use a Chimera marker file but that only knows how to place >>>> spheres. If you wanted to make use of the "map" and "matrix" >>>> attributes you added to the markers then that would require some >>>> extra Python script. That could be done -- it is just a different >>>> format of input from the script I sent you. >>>> >>>> If you can't display hundreds of copies of the map due to slow >>>> graphics then it doesn't matter how you input the data. Having >>>> hundreds of copies of the same map open doesn't load the map data >>>> more than once. So you shouldn't run out of memory. But the >>>> surface for each map might have a million triangles and it does >>>> make a separate surface copy for each copy you place in your >>>> tomogram. Of course you won't see the detail in a tiny map put >>>> into a tomogram so the solution would be to display a very coarse >>>> image of the map that is being placed many times in the tomogram. >>>> I've worked recently on making Chimera display multiple copies of >>>> identical objects without making copies of the surface in memory -- >>>> just reuse the same surface. But it is not in Chimera yet. And >>>> your graphics speed will still become unusable if you try to >>>> display too many copies with too much detail. So the main need is >>>> to show an appropriate low level of detail for all or most of your >>>> hundreds of copies. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented >>>> density maps inside a tomogram >>>> From: Daniel Castano Diez >>>> To: Tom Goddard >>>> Date: 11/14/12 1:28 PM >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> thanks for the answer. Actually I already wrote some scripts for >>>>> placing each different copy of the density map as an individual >>>>> model, but this is not practical for placing hundreds of copies >>>>> (as it's the case with tomograms). I will try your python script. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was under the impression that a .cmm markerfile was a better >>>>> approach, as I though that one could define a marker with more >>>>> attributes as in the example: >>>>> >>>>> <marker id="1" x="-6.1267" y="17.44" z="-3.1338" radius="0.35217"/> >>>>> >>>>> I mean, something like: >>>>> >>>>> <marker id="1" x="-6.1267" y="17.44" z="-3.1338" map >>>>> ="my_map.em" matrix = "my_matrix.txt" /> >>>>> >>>>> or similar with quaternions or euler angles... but I guess that >>>>> was wrong? That'll be a pitty, as I am interfacing Chimera with >>>>> the subtomogram averaging package Dynamo and the most stable way >>>>> seemes to be having Dynamo converting its "table" files (lists of >>>>> positions and angles) into .cmm files that could then be directly >>>>> fed into Chimera. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Daniel, >>>>>> >>>>>> Take a look at the placem.py script which can place copies of >>>>>> maps or molecules at specified positions. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/wiki/Scripts >>>>>> >>>>>> It specifies the rotation as a quaternion which is close to a >>>>>> rotation axis and angle description. I could show you how to >>>>>> adapt it to use Euler angles or a 3x3 rotation matrix if you like. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to use a Chimera marker file to place multiple copies >>>>>>> of a density map in different spatial positions inside a >>>>>>> tomogram. My input is thus a single map file a set of 3d >>>>>>> locations, each attached to an euler triplet (or a rotation matrix) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With the documentation I could find >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2065/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumepatht… >>>>>>> it is explained how to place spheres without orientation in a >>>>>>> volume, but I was not able to figure out how to place a density >>>>>>> map at those locations, and also how to impart a different >>>>>>> orientation to the density map located at each position. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My question is: where could I find a description of the marker >>>>>>> file syntax that describes this functionality? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chimera-users mailing list >>>>>>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>>>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >

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delay updating to Ubuntu 12.10
by Greg Couch 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

Something happened in Ubuntu 12.10 that breaks Chimera's SideView tool, even if you have the proprietary graphics driver installed. So we recommend waiting until this bug is resolved. I plan to retest Ubuntu 12.10 every two or three weeks, but if anyone finds out that it is fixed earlier, please let me know. HTH, Greg

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Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented density maps inside a tomogram
by Tom Goddard 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

Hi Daniel, I see. You'd like to control the contour level, color, surface/mesh style, step size... of all the copies as if they were one model instead of 100 different models, each a copy of the same map. For making hundreds of copies of an atomic model, the multiscale dialog in Chimera does this using a single model. But that doesn't currently work with maps. One disadvantage of having a single model for all the copies of a map is that the maps will all have to have the same color, same step size, same contour level because all those properties are stored with the model. Maybe that restriction is fine for your use. I would like to make that possible by allowing Chimera to place identical copies of any type of model by just specifying the list of positioning matrices. The model would just remember the list of matrices for the different placements. For now using a hundred different models of the same map is workable. You can't adjust all of them at the same time with the volume dialog. But you can adjust one to figure out the contour level you like and then use one volume command to set the level for all the copies, for example, "volume #1-100 level 1.24 color yellow step 2". Another approach is to make a single map by adding your hundred placed copies on a single grid (e.g. the tomogram grid). Then you open that one map and all the copies appear. The drawback is that you may want finer grid spacing on the individual copies then you have with the tomogram, and that would make the map to large and slow to work with (and mostly empty). If you are interested in trying this approach though you can use a command like "vop add #1-100 onGrid #0" to produce such a map after placing the hundred separate models with your current script. Then save that new map and use it in the future instead of the 100 copies. Tom -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented density maps inside a tomogram From: Daniel Castano Diez To: Tom Goddard Date: 11/15/12 7:12 AM > Hi Tom, > > thanks for the helpful explanation. The extension that you mention > you've been working on seems interesting. I guess that will allow the > user to change the isosurface level in one single model to change it > in all the models simultaneously, am I right? This would solve another > problem I'm having with my scripts, as they fed each copy of the map > into Chimera as a different model. So, I'm looking forwards to trying > it when it becomes available. > > best, > Daniel > > > >> Hi Daniel, >> >> You can use a Chimera marker file but that only knows how to place >> spheres. If you wanted to make use of the "map" and "matrix" >> attributes you added to the markers then that would require some >> extra Python script. That could be done -- it is just a different >> format of input from the script I sent you. >> >> If you can't display hundreds of copies of the map due to slow >> graphics then it doesn't matter how you input the data. Having >> hundreds of copies of the same map open doesn't load the map data >> more than once. So you shouldn't run out of memory. But the surface >> for each map might have a million triangles and it does make a >> separate surface copy for each copy you place in your tomogram. Of >> course you won't see the detail in a tiny map put into a tomogram so >> the solution would be to display a very coarse image of the map that >> is being placed many times in the tomogram. I've worked recently on >> making Chimera display multiple copies of identical objects without >> making copies of the surface in memory -- just reuse the same >> surface. But it is not in Chimera yet. And your graphics speed will >> still become unusable if you try to display too many copies with too >> much detail. So the main need is to show an appropriate low level of >> detail for all or most of your hundreds of copies. >> >> Tom >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Using marker files to place oriented >> density maps inside a tomogram >> From: Daniel Castano Diez >> To: Tom Goddard >> Date: 11/14/12 1:28 PM >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> thanks for the answer. Actually I already wrote some scripts for >>> placing each different copy of the density map as an individual >>> model, but this is not practical for placing hundreds of copies (as >>> it's the case with tomograms). I will try your python script. >>> >>> >>> I was under the impression that a .cmm markerfile was a better >>> approach, as I though that one could define a marker with more >>> attributes as in the example: >>> >>> <marker id="1" x="-6.1267" y="17.44" z="-3.1338" radius="0.35217"/> >>> >>> I mean, something like: >>> >>> <marker id="1" x="-6.1267" y="17.44" z="-3.1338" map ="my_map.em" >>> matrix = "my_matrix.txt" /> >>> >>> or similar with quaternions or euler angles... but I guess that was >>> wrong? That'll be a pitty, as I am interfacing Chimera with the >>> subtomogram averaging package Dynamo and the most stable way seemes >>> to be having Dynamo converting its "table" files (lists of positions >>> and angles) into .cmm files that could then be directly fed into >>> Chimera. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Daniel, >>>> >>>> Take a look at the placem.py script which can place copies of maps >>>> or molecules at specified positions. >>>> >>>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/wiki/Scripts >>>> >>>> It specifies the rotation as a quaternion which is close to a >>>> rotation axis and angle description. I could show you how to adapt >>>> it to use Euler angles or a 3x3 rotation matrix if you like. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to use a Chimera marker file to place multiple copies of >>>>> a density map in different spatial positions inside a tomogram. My >>>>> input is thus a single map file a set of 3d locations, each >>>>> attached to an euler triplet (or a rotation matrix) >>>>> >>>>> With the documentation I could find >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2065/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumepatht… >>>>> it is explained how to place spheres without orientation in a >>>>> volume, but I was not able to figure out how to place a density >>>>> map at those locations, and also how to impart a different >>>>> orientation to the density map located at each position. >>>>> >>>>> My question is: where could I find a description of the marker >>>>> file syntax that describes this functionality? >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chimera-users mailing list >>>>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > >

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Using marker files to place oriented density maps inside a tomogram
by Daniel Castano Diez 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

Hi, I'd like to use a Chimera marker file to place multiple copies of a density map in different spatial positions inside a tomogram. My input is thus a single map file a set of 3d locations, each attached to an euler triplet (or a rotation matrix) With the documentation I could find http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2065/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumepatht… it is explained how to place spheres without orientation in a volume, but I was not able to figure out how to place a density map at those locations, and also how to impart a different orientation to the density map located at each position. My question is: where could I find a description of the marker file syntax that describes this functionality? thanks, Daniel ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Fussy density around the particle
by Elaine Meng 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:04 AM, Mohit Kumar wrote: > Hi Elaine, > Can you please tell me how to remove the fussy density from the plane of a > particle? > I went to Volume Viewer>Features>Planes>One to make a plane of the particle. > I can see a fussy density around the particle at the entire boundary. > How can I deactivate it ?? > Thanks in advance. > Best, > Mohit > Hi Mohit, Please send chimera questions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu rather than to me directly -- it allows other people to answer if I cannot, and allows other users to benefit from the information. In this case, I may not understand the question. You could (a) adjust the thresholds for density display using the Volume Viewer dialog <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumeviewer/frame…> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumeviewer/volum…> (b) filter your map using Volume Filter (in menu under Tools... Volume Data) <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/volumeviewer/gauss…> (c) erase parts of a map using Volume Eraser (d) segment using Segment Map etc... see "volume tour" <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/data/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html> Best, Elaine

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lib64bz2, question, running and installing chimera
by Sai Tong 14 Nov '12

14 Nov '12

I tried to install alpha version of chimera today in a linux machine running fedora core 14 chimera-alpha-linux_x86_64.bin after installation, running chimera gives the following Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/UCSF/Chimera64-2012-11-14/share/__main__.py", line 69, in <module> value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "/opt/UCSF/Chimera64-2012-11-14/share/chimeraInit.py", line 594, in init import chimera File "/opt/UCSF/Chimera64-2012-11-14/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 16, in <module> from _chimera import BBox, Camera, Color, ColorGroup, DirectionalLight, LODControl, Lens, LensViewer, Light, Material, MaterialColor, Model, NoGuiViewer, OGLFont, OSLAbbreviation, OpenModels, OpenState, PathFinder, PixelMap, Plane, Point, PositionalLight, Selectable, SharedState, SpotLight, Sphere, Texture, TextureColor, TrackChanges, Vector, Viewer, X3DScene, Xform ImportError: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The lib64 directory contains the following: lrwxrwxrwx. /lib64/libbz2.so.1 -> libbz2.so.1.0.6 -rwxr-xr-x. /lib64/libbz2.so.1.0.6 If I install the current production release version, running chimera from this production installation would be without problem. Should I temporarily link libbz2.so.1.0.6 to libbz2.so.1.0 in /lib64 in order to make the alpha version of chimera run?

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Re: [Chimera-users] occupancy calculations
by Benjamin SCHWARZ 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

Hi Tom, Not sure I understand you well, my problem doesn't seem to be merely connected with threshold settings. Please have a look at the attached screenshot. I generated the red map with the occupancy tool, values range from 0 to 213. Then I saved it, changed the name, reopened it, and got that yellowish map with values from -128 to 127. It looks like a certain range of values was somehow shifted somewhere in the process… --Ben Le 10 nov. 2012 à 19:46, Tom Goddard a écrit : > Hi Ben, > > You have to set the contour level for the surface after you open the occupancy map. This is set with the volume dialog by moving the bar on the histogram or using the level entry field, or you can use the volume command (volume #0 level 0.123). The displayed level when you first created the map was apparently much lower than the level that is automatically chosen when you open the saved map file. > > Tom > > > On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > >> Hi Ben, >> The save and restore of the volume map isn't the part of Chimera I work on. I'm forwarding your message to Tom Goddard, who programs the vast majority of Chimera's volumetric capabilities, and hopefully he'll get back to you with a solution soon. >> >> --Eric >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Benjamin SCHWARZ <schwarz.ben(a)gmail.com> >>> Date: November 9, 2012 8:29:56 AM PST >>> To: Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] occupancy calculations >>> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> Creation of the map works fine, but I have issues opening it when saved. You'll find attached a picture of the map as it is computed and rendered on my screen (good), ad of what happen to it when I save it and reload it from the file. Hopes this helps. >>> >>> <image--bug-visu---good.png> >>> >>> <image--bug-visu---bad.png> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ben, >>>> I just added an option to MD Movie to allow atomic radii to be factored in. The two options (other than the previous behavior which is also available) is to increment all grid cells within the atomic radii uniformly, or to increment those closer to the atomic center more. The latter is a very simple scheme in that the "outermost" cells are incremented by 1, the next layer by 2, the next by 3, etc. with the center cell getting the highest increment. >>>> >>>> --Eric >>> >> --- Benjamin SCHWARZ Email : schwarz(a)igbmc.fr Voice : +33 (0)3 68 85 47 30 FAX : +33 (0)3 68 85 47 18 Biocomputing group -- Integrated Structural Biology -- IGBMC 1 rue Laurent Fries, BP 10142 F - 67404 Illkirch CEDEX FRANCE

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save axes coordinates?
by esserlo＠helix.nih.gov 09 Nov '12

09 Nov '12

Hi, I'd like to write out the coordinates of helix axes and I know that this can be done in "Structure Measurements" gui window with "Save". However, I would like to be able to use a script. So how can I activate this "Save" function from a script (.com) ? Ah, there is one more thing, when I calculate the angle beween 2 helix axes the result is printed in the "Reply log" - useful but can I also automatically write this on out to keep a record? Thanks, Lothar P.S. I am currently using chimera-1.7-alpha 11/9/12 on 64 bit Linux.

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icosahedral reconstruction volume color
by Reginald McNulty 08 Nov '12

08 Nov '12

Dear Users, I've done a symmetric reconstruction utilizing Viper (I1) icosahedral symmetry with XMIPP. Is there a way to color my recon.vol file surface according to symmetry? Kind regards, Reggie -- Reginald McNulty, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Research Associate The Scripps Research Institute Johnson Lab Department of Molecular Biology La Jolla, California 92037 Email: rmcnulty(a)scripps.edu

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Re: [Chimera-users] Ubuntu 12.04 and Chimera 1.6.2
by Greg Couch 06 Nov '12

06 Nov '12

There are lots of things that could be wrong. To confirm that the X11/OpenGL GLX extension is missing, run the glxinfo program from the mesa-utils package (if you need to install mesa-utils, installing the associated dependencies might solve your problem) -- it should fail. Next examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the error the X11 server has loading the GLX extension. Fix that error, restart the X11 server, and repeat until the glxinfo program works. Then Chimera should work too. Last bit of advice, a simple thing to try is to (re)install the graphics driver. If you have AMD/ATI or NVIDIA graphics, we strongly recommend that you install the proprietary driver that is installed with the Additional Drivers tool in the System Settings dialog. If you have Intel graphics and glxinfo works, but Chimera doesn't, then make sure you have all the Ubuntu patches installed. But even if you keep your system up-to-date, if you have Intel graphics, you should switch to newer versions of Ubuntu when they come out -- for instance, today, you should upgrade to 12.10, and I'd recommend 13.04 when it comes out, /ad infinitum/ or at least for the next 5 years, until the Intel graphics driver is much less buggy (it has drastically improved in the last couple of years, but there is much more being done). HTH, Greg On 11/06/2012 12:26 PM, sette(a)uniroma2.it wrote: > > Dear all, > > in Ubuntu 12.04, 32 bit, I have the following error message when > starting Chimera 1.6.2: > > "Error initializing OpenGL: X server is missing OpenGL GLX extension. > Couldn't configure togl widget". > > Do you know a solution for this problem? > > Thanks, > Marco > > > Dr.Marco Sette, Ph.D. > > Department of Chemical Sciences and Technology > University of Rome, "Tor Vergata" > via della Ricerca Scientifica, 00133, Rome, Italy > e-mail: sette(a)uniroma2.it > e-mail: m77it(a)yahoo.it > Tel.: +39-0672594424 > Fax: +39-0672594328 > > www.rete29aprile.it > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Invito da parte dell'Ateneo: > Il tuo futuro e quello della Ricerca Scientifica hanno bisogno del > tuo aiuto. Dona il 5 x mille all'Universita' di Roma Tor Vergata > codice fiscale: 80213750583 http://5x1000.uniroma2.it

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Re: [Chimera-users] Problem with RMSD calculation
by Eric Pettersen 06 Nov '12

06 Nov '12

On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Aditi Gangopadhyay wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > I've been using Chimera for the calculation of RMSD of two ligands associated with a protein. (In my specific case, it is the same ligand, one being associated with the usual protein, and the other with the protein bound to a small molecule). However, I have had a problem with this, since the RMSD values are differing when I select my concerned ligand using GUI and when I select using the ctrl+drag way. I would be very grateful if you would kindly tell me where I'm going wrong in my selection or somewhere else. Thank you so much in advance for your help! > > Regards, > Aditi. > -- > Aditi Gangopadhyay > > Junior Research Fellow > DBT Centre for Bioinformatics > Presidency University > Kolkata, India Hi Adit, I'm assuming you are using the "match" or "rmsd" command to measure the RMSD. The problem with using a selection as an argument to the command is that the atoms are matched in the same order as they were selected. This is fine if you selected the atoms one by one (with shift-control-click), but a control-drag adds the atoms to the selection in an arbitrary order. Probably the easiest way to specify your ligand in the match command, assuming there is only one instance of the ligand in each model and the models are #0 and #1 (and the ligand name is, say, "XYZ"): rmsd #0:xyz #1:xyz --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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MD analysis : get clusters
by Benjamin SCHWARZ 05 Nov '12

05 Nov '12

Hi list, I clustered a bunch of structures using the MD clustering tool, I am very happy with the result but I can't find how to download/save the result. Is there a way for instance to copy-paste the columns indicating the number of models as well as the index of the representative for each cluster; alternatively, is possible to sort out frames by clusters ? If there are command shortcuts to manipulate the clustering, I'd be happy to get them, or to get a link to it in the manual. Chimera is really a great tool, but the learning curve appears really steep ;) Ultimately, I wonder about the type of clustering used here. I suspect a complete linkage but I couldn't find the confirmation in the manual. Any info on that ? Thanks a lot for your extremely good work, and the fast answers on this mailing list --Ben

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occupancy calculations
by Benjamin SCHWARZ 02 Nov '12

02 Nov '12

Hi list, I am using the MD->occupancy tool to produce occupancy densities of a very coarse grained model (I have a few spheres, with big radii : approximatively 10 spheres with 10A radius each). My problem is that the density is computed only for the center of each sphere, which tells me where the center stands. To have a better feeling of the space occupied by each sphere I'd rather like a density computed for the whole sphere (updating each cell of the grid by either incrementing if the cell is covered by the sphere, or why not with any type of kernel centered on the sphere and depending on the sphere's radius.). Can I do that with Chimera ? And if so, How ? thanks --Ben

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Re: [Chimera-users] Regarding Hydrogen Bond
by Elaine Meng 01 Nov '12

01 Nov '12

Dear Amit, You can identify hydrogen bonds with FindHBond (in menu under Tools... Structure Analysis). Click the Help button on that tool or see here for instructions: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/findhbond/findhbon…> If you want to analyze the environment around the metal and then add metal coordination bonds, you could use Metal Geometry (in menu under Tools... Structure Analysis): <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/metalgeom/metalgeo…> If you don't care about analysis and just want to draw a line between two atoms, you could do that using either of the following: (A) distance measurements, for example using the Distances tool (change label to "none" if you don't want to see the distance value) <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/structuremeas/stru…> (B) PseudoBond Reader <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/pbreader/pbreader.…> Please send Chimera questions to the chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu address so that everybody can benefit. You can search the manual using Help... Search Documentation in the Chimera menu, and you can search the chimera-users messages here: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/feedback.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Amit Jaiswal wrote: > Dear Dr.Meng, > Many thanks for your mail and suggestion for Metal fixation. I have done what you have advised. So, now my metal is near the catalytic site. So the next step is to form bond between Mg and Aspartic Acid residues. Now, I am confused. So I want to ask weather hydrogen bond and co-ordinate bond can be formed in Chimera? > Please do let me know. >

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aligning multiple models in the same session
by m.sani＠nki.nl 30 Oct '12

30 Oct '12

Hi, I have 4 EM maps opened in one session and cant seem to get them all to align to a central map as origin. I have tried to fit them by hand onto one another and then move it translationally with “move” command to translates a specified model by a distance along a specified axis; in addition to a translational shift, the models also seems to be slightly rotated with respect to one another (see attach image). Can you help please? Musa Sani, PhD --------------------------------------------- Cell Biology II(B6) The Netherlands Cancer Institute-Antoni van Leeuwenhoek Hospital Plesmanlaan 121, 1066CX Amsterdam, the Netherlands, mobile: +31 625 498 194 Tel: +31 20 512 1008

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Amber-style mol2 name
by Nikolay Igorovich Rodionov 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

Hi all, Simple Questions: To create mol2 files with naming compatible with Ambersuite programs I would have to save with non-sybyl hydrogen naming, yes? Also, after I save the files with the amber style naming scheme, which atom name column has the AMBER style naming (there are two)? Thanks! Nikolay Rodionov| MBA Candidate & B.S. Bioengineering 2015 Martin J. Whitman School of Management & L.C. Smith College of Engineering at Syracuse University Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone: 281.301.9401| Email: Nirodion(a)syr.edu

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how to mask irregular shape in EM density map
by sy31802 25 Oct '12

25 Oct '12

Dear all, We want to color our EM density map , so we need mask different part of the map in order to distinguish them with different colors. Unfortunately, the sample is not irregular shape , we could not use "shape" to mask volume as usually. Could anyone give some suggestion? We also use Amira for 3D rendering. We think the rendering in amira is just the mask, so we want solve the problem the mask the irregular shape with amira , have anyone done with it? best regard 2012-10-25 sy31802

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Re: [Chimera-users] segmentation fault
by Tim Richardson 25 Oct '12

25 Oct '12

Hi, I'm getting segmentation faults when using chimera. I tried to produce a backtrace, but got an error: [tim@nest ~]$ gdb chimera core.3777 GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora (7.4.50.20120120-50.fc17) Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i686-redhat-linux-gnu". For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>... "/usr/bin/chimera": not in executable format: File format not recognized [New LWP 3777] [New LWP 3787] Core was generated by `/opt/UCSF/Chimera-1.6.2/bin/python2.7 /opt/UCSF/Chimera-1.6.2/share/__main__.py'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0xb578ddc7 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0xb578ddc7 in ?? () #1 0x0963be90 in ?? () Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) Could you advise how I might avoid a segmentation fault and what I'm doing wrong with the backtrace. Is there anything I can do short of installing a VM and running the windows version? Many thanks, Tim Richardson @timrich

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Regarding Metal Fixing in Protein
by Amit Jaiswal 24 Oct '12

24 Oct '12

Dear Sir /Mam, I am new to Chimera and thus facing problems in inserting Metal in my protein. I am using the Build structure command in Chimera but I am unable to move the metal from one place to the other. Please guide me out in fixing the metal. -- Yours Sincerely, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amit Jaiswal, Department of Bioinformatics, School of Life Sciences, Pondicherry Central University, Kalapet, Pondicherry, Puducherry - 605 014. Phone No.: +91 8124954834. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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pipes and planks
by Ishu Saraogi 23 Oct '12

23 Oct '12

Dear Chimera Users: I have been trying to makes pipes and planks in different colors for a co-crystal structure. I want each protein to be a certain color. The user manual says that I need to select "No colors" in the pipes and planks menu. However, this button is deactivated in my program. Has anyone else had that problem and is there a fix? I have tried using axes/planes command but it does not give me loops and sheets that I also need. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ishu -- Ishu Saraogi, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Scholar California Institute of Technology 1200 E. California Blvd., MC 147-75 Pasadena, CA 91125-4100 USA Phone: (626)395 4071

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Label help
by Hansen, Bryan (NIH/NIAID) [F] 23 Oct '12

23 Oct '12

Hi all, I was wondering how to increase the font size of the label of an amino acid? I'm guessing this is really simple and I'm just missing something, but any tips are appreciated. Bryan

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scripting problem
by Strotz von Moos Dean 22 Oct '12

22 Oct '12

Hi, I have a question to the following code. I can not figure out why certain atom types are not understood (HG, QD etc). The atom types occur in the structure and I can select them through the terminal or add them as pseudo bonds through the pseudoBond reader. For a QD1 one for instance I get: KeyError: 'QD1' <module> grp.newPseudoBond(res[r1].atomsMap[A1][0],res[r2].atomsMap[A2][0]) Excerpt from the input file: 7 HA 7 H red #this is understood 7 H 7 QD1 yellow #error message for QD1 What is wrong with my code? The A1 = str(A1) ? How would I do it alternatively? All the best and many thanks Dean import chimera from chimera.colorTable import getColorByName from chimera.misc import getPseudoBondGroup from chimera import runCommand as rC # use 'rc' as shorthand for runCommand model = chimera.openModels.open('xxx.pdb') rC('show #0') rC('ribbon') rC('ribcolor gray') rC('background solid white') rC('unset depthCue') ins = open('pseudobondsToAdd.txt', "r" ) array = [] for line in ins: array.append(line) ins.close() for line in array: r1, A1, r2, A2, c = line.split() # Split the line on white space. r1 = int(r1) r2 = int(r2) A1 = str(A1) A2 = str(A2) c = str(c) res = model[0].residues grp = getPseudoBondGroup("mybonds", associateWith=model) grp.newPseudoBond(res[r1].atomsMap[A1][0],res[r2].atomsMap[A2][0]) grp.color = getColorByName(c) ETH Zürich Dean Strotz Laboratorium f. Physikalische Chemie HCI F 217 Wolfgang-Pauli-Str. 10 8093 Zürich E-Mail: dean.strotz(a)phys.chem.ethz.ch<mailto:dean.strotz@phys.chem.ethz.ch>

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Show molecular surface for one chain only
by Hurt, Darrell (NIH/NIAID) [E] 22 Oct '12

22 Oct '12

Hi Chimera folks, I have a peptide bound to a protein. They are two separate chains in single PDB. I want to show the molecular surface for the protein, but not the peptide (to see the surface where the peptide binds to the protein). This is easy (the default, actually) for small molecules. But when I select the chain of the protein and display its surface, the surface is "broken" around the peptide and I cannot see what I want. The rest of the surface is OK, but in the area of interest, I cannot see the surface. I tried the "Intersurf" command and it sort of works, but I want an MSMS molecular surface of the protein with the peptide sitting in it. Is there some trick for this other than separating the peptide from the protein and putting it into a separate model? Thanks, Darrell Darrell Hurt, Ph.D. Section Head, Computational Biology Bioinformatics and Computational Biosciences Branch (BCBB) OCICB/OSMO/OD/NIAID/NIH 31 Center Drive, Room 3B62B, MSC 2135 Bethesda, MD 20892-2135 Office 301-402-0095 Mobile 301-758-3559 http://bioinformatics.niaid.nih.gov (Within NIH) http://exon.niaid.nih.gov (Public) Disclaimer: The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is confidential and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any other storage devices. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shall not accept liability for any statements made that are sender's own and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its representatives.

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Feature request: changing default color for H-bonds
by Miguel Ortiz Lombardía 21 Oct '12

21 Oct '12

Hi, I think the subject of the message is explicit enough... Perhaps the option of having a default color different than cyan for hydrogen bonds already exists, but I have failed to find it. I have this line in my .chimera/preferences file: 'FindHBonds': {'line width': 2.0}, So I tried to include something like 'color: (0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0)' (or bond color or H-bond color...) in the FindHBonds dictionary, alas without success. Let me give some rationale: I prefer having a white background, against which cyan is not really very visible when the structure gets complex. Not to me eyes at least. Thank you! Best regards, -- Miguel Architecture et Fonction des Macromolécules Biologiques (UMR7257) CNRS, Aix-Marseille Université Case 932, 163 Avenue de Luminy, 13288 Marseille cedex 9, France Tel: +33(0) 491 82 55 93 Fax: +33(0) 491 26 67 20 mailto:miguel.ortiz-lombardia@afmb.univ-mrs.fr http://w2.afmb.univ-mrs.fr/Miguel-Ortiz-Lombardia

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