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Fwd: Chimera bug report submission
by Eric Pettersen 22 Dec '21

22 Dec '21

> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Kenji Matsui <s214903z(a)st.go.tuat.ac.jp> > Subject: Chimera bug report submission > Date: December 19, 2021 at 11:33:41 PM PST > To: chimera-bugs(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > The following bug report has been submitted: > Platform: windows_x86_64 > Chimera Version: 1.16 > Description > I would like to see the interaction between the ligand and the protein, but I was not able to display it in the way described in the tutorial. How can I do that? > > Method > select →ligand > > Tool Structure analysis Find H-bond Line length 3.0 Å > > check Relax H-bond ~, Only find, Include intera-molecular, Include intra-residue > > apply →OK > File attachment: osh4,OSW-1220.py

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1.16 release
by Eric Pettersen 20 Dec '21

20 Dec '21

Chimera production release 1.16 is now available <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html>. This will be the last release to support Windows 7. See the release notes <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/relnotes/1.16.html> for what's new. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

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Re: [Chimera-users] .dae export for ChimeraX
by Tom Goddard 19 Dec '21

19 Dec '21

Hi Byrne, Thanks for the info about exporting models for iOS. Glad you found a way to export a virus model from ChimeraX suitable for use in iOS apps made with Xcode. The STL format is just a list of triangles, each with 3 vertex (x,y,z) coordinates, used mostly for 3D printing. It does not have vertex normal vectors which are used to give smoother lighting. In the future maybe ChimeraX will directly export Collada (*.dae) files and you will be able to export a usable model without running it through Blender. As I mentioned before we support GLTF but not Collada currently. Our ChimeraX efforts are mostly to help researchers analyze molecular structures so adding this does not have highest priority. Unfortunately there are hundreds of feature requests we do not have time to implement with our limited funding. Tom > On Dec 18, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Byrne Pedit <bpedit(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > Hello again Tom, > > A follow-up follow-up. After extensive testing I have found a useable workflow from ChimeraX to iOS. Of course iOS apps may utilize PDB viewers, this is for folks who may want to incorporate models, in customized ways, into SceneKit for manipulation. > > ChimeraX ––> STL ––(graphics editor)––> DAE ––Xcode––> SCN > > • In Chimera > – reduce polys as much as possible* > – export individual elements, e.g. chains, if you want individual control (materials, etc) > • In a graphics editor: > – eliminate polygonal faceting of STL files > - Blender, check Auto Smooth in addition to toggling on Smooth Shading > - Cinema 4D, add a phong tag > – recenter if desired, add additional elements > > *You might want to add surfaces to your reducing file-size tutorial. In the model below, the spike's resolution was set to 7, gridSpacing 3. You also need to click Hide for Atoms and Cartoons; otherwise they will severely bloat the file even though not seen. The entire file size of this SARS-CoV-2 model, as used by iOS, is 1.2 Mb (all but one of the spikes are all clones). > > Thanks again for the help, > > Byrne > > > > > > >> On Dec 3, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: >> >> Hi Byrne, >> >> Thanks! So Blender can convert GLTF to Collada. The ChimeraX GLTF is binary and Collada is all text, so no surprise that the file size is much larger. If we add Collada support it would be produced directly from the ChimeraX scene, not converting from GLTF. But we have hundreds of new feature requests so I don't think Collada output is likely to be added soon, unless a funded project needs it. >> >> Tom >> >>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Byrne Pedit <bpedit(a)comcast.net <mailto:bpedit@comcast.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> A follow-up for future reference. Blender, the one recommendation I found on StackOverflow, is indeed capable of converting GLTF to DAE. But the conversion bloats the files by as much as 10x! In addition, the hierarchy is only partially preserved. I tried an on-line converter with even less satisfactory results. So I think this pathway is a bust. This might serve as a fair warning for ChimeraX developers to avoid an internal conversion from GLTF if introducing a DAE export option. >>> >>> >>> Byrne >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Byrne, >>>> >>>> I agree, OBJ and STL are very limited compared to Collada and GLTF. OBJ is supported by almost every 3D model program and STL is commonly used for 3D printing (single color) which is why they are in ChimeraX. GLTF is definitely the best option in ChimeraX for your case. >>>> >>>> There appear to be lots of programs that convert GLTF to Collada and the other direction too. But I have not tried any of them so don't have any recommendation. Let us know if you find one that works well -- other ChimeraX users may have the same need. >>>> >>>> A major stumbling block exporting 3D models from ChimeraX (or Chimera) is that they use vertex colors, while most of the non-biology 3D model world uses texture colors, and will simply ignore vertex colors losing all your color information. That example I linked to in the last email describes a relatively new ChimeraX feature to export texture colors (for limited cases, e.g. discrete colors only). >>>> >>>> Another common problem exporting molecular models for use in other software is that the file size and number of triangles is too large for the application that you want to use them in, often tens of millions of triangles or hundreds of Mbytes to Gbytes in size. The example also shows how to tell ChimeraX to limit the number of triangles. >>>> >>>> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html> >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Model from gltf export from linked ChimeraX example >>>> >>>> <spike.png> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Byrne Pedit <bpedit(a)comcast.net <mailto:bpedit@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Tom, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the response. I tried the GLTF export, not recognizable by Xcode (the development platform for iOS and Mac OS). The only ChimeraX file options I’ve found to be openable are OBJ and STL. These are, however, problematic and unusable. >>>>> >>>>> But your hint of using GLTF as an intermediary offers an avenue for exploration, it’s not a format I’ve used. I see it supports scene graph hierarchy, absent with OBJ and STL( exported from ChimeraX anyway) so this is promising. Now to find a converter. >>>>> >>>>> The GLTF export link is informative, it may help further refine my approach. Interestingly, the molecule you’ve chosen for demo purposes appears to be the one, or a variant thereof, I’ve been testing with! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> >>>>> Byrne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Byrne, >>>>>> >>>>>> We have long been interested in adding Collada format export of scenes from ChimeraX. Here is the feature request for that >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/485 <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/485> >>>>>> >>>>>> But our scene export in ChimeraX has focused on GLTF format, as that has been the most requested. Here is an example showing GLTF export from ChimeraX (including texture colors). >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> ChimeraX also exports OBJ, STL, X3D, VTK as shown in the save command docs >>>>>> >>>>>> https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#formats <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#formats> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you make use of GLTF files? If not, a quick solution might be to convert ChimeraX GLTF files to Collada with third-party software. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Byrne Pedit via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ChimeraX is awesome and definitely superior to the original but for the inability to export as .dae (Collada). Is that possibly on the to-do list? This is important for those of us (just me?) writing interactive molecular apps for devices. It is the only satisfactory path I’ve found between a PDB file and SCNNodes/Scenes in iOS. (See the iOS app ‘BioMole’, free, if interested in an application.) >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chimera-users mailing list: Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:Chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >>>>>>> Manage subscription: https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users <https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

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Selection command for atoms in different models
by Woodbrey Anne 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Hi, Is there a way to select residues from 2 different models using a single line of command? For example, I want to select residues 230 and 260 of Model 0 and residues 232 and 262 of Model 1. I then want to display the side chains, color magenta, then color by heteroatom. This is what my current (annoying) workflow is: select #0:230,260 Actions --> Color --> Magenta Actions --> Color --> By heteroatom select #1:232,262 Actions --> Color --> Magenta Actions --> Color --> By heteroatom I know I can do the following instead: disp #0:230,260 color magenta #0:230,260 color byhet #0:230,260 Repeat for #1:232,262 ...but it doesn't really save any time. I want to select all 4 residues at once without having to ctrl + shift + click on them all. Please tell me there's a way! Thank you, Annie

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calculating radius of gyration
by Elaine Meng 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Simon.Chapman <simon.chapman(a)open.ac.uk> wrote: > > Hello again Elaine. All going very well with Chimera, and I've introduced the software to some more of mt students. > > But, is there a way to plot radius of gyration from the simualtion data? I would have thought somehow the RMSD over time should allow that? > > Best wishes Hi Simon, Thanks for introducing others to Chimera! I'm not the expert on this topic, so I had to consult with others to answer this question. Just as a reminder, it's recommended to send questions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu (CC'd here) unless what you are sending needs to remain private. I don't know everything (surprise!) or I might not understand your question as well as somebody else does. RMSD compares different sets of coordinates, so I don't think that gets you anything like the radius of gyration of a single set of coordinates. There are some scripts to calculate radius of gyration on the Chimera Python Scripts page: <https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/wiki/Scripts> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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Translate onto the X-axis
by Yasser Almeida 14 Dec '21

14 Dec '21

Hello, I have a complex of two proteins that I want to align to the X-axis. Specifically, I want to define a vector between the COMs of each protein, and then translate the whole system so that the vector is on the X-axis, where the COM of one protein is on the cartesian origin [0, 0, 0] and the other COM is in [+X, 0, 0]. How can I achieve this with Chimera? Thanks in advance, Yasser

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Save multiple fitted maps in Chimera
by Huabin Zhou 13 Dec '21

13 Dec '21

Dear Chimera team and users, I am trying fit hundreds of protein density maps into a tomogram by manually adjusting their positions. After the placement, I found I can't save all the maps together in a single mrc file. Is there anyway to do so? Or is there a way to extract the relative orientations of the individual models? Thank you! Best, Huabin ________________________________ UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today.

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Help please: extracting distances from each frame of a short MD
by Anne-Frances Miller 11 Dec '21

11 Dec '21

Dear Chimera support, I want to extract a set of distances and one angle from each snapshot of an MD trajectory (there are 11 of them). My plan was to have all my distances appear in one of the MD-movie analysis>plot distances windows and use ‘Dump Values’ to get my numbers out in a way I could use for other plots. I realize angles cannot appear in the same plot, but hope I can measure an angle in the same script. I have a ‘per-frame’ script that runs fine on the first frame, however it returns ‘Problem in per-frame script: Distance monitor already exists’ when I step forward to a second frame. Nothing appears in a 'MD plots' window (such a window does not open on its own either). Reply Log shows the correct distances for the first frame but then only repeats the error after that. Problem in per-frame script: Distance monitor already exists My work-flow: Open MD/movie, load my trajectory open analysis, Per-Frame copy my script into the window (chimera commands) click ‘apply' in the script window, click ‘play’ or step forward one frame in the MD GUI (looping disabled) My script: ~disp ~ribbon disp :718,720,721,722,730,740,741,1058 distance :1058@O2 :741@ND1 distance :730@OH :741@NE2 distance :721@OG1 :1058@N5 distance :718@O :1058@N3 distance :721@N :1058@O4 distance :722@N :1058@O4 distance :720@N :1058@O4 distance :740@O :720@N angle :1058@C2 :1058@O2 :741@HD1 :741@ND1 Reply Log output: Distance between FDM 1058 O2 and HID 741 ND1: 2.8 Distance between TYR 730 OH and HID 741 NE2: 2.8 Distance between THR 721 OG1 and FDM 1058 N5: 3.4 Distance between ILE 718 O and FDM 1058 N3: 3.2 Distance between THR 721 N and FDM 1058 O4: 2.9 Distance between GLY 722 N and FDM 1058 O4: 3.2 Distance between GLN 720 N and FDM 1058 O4: 3.2 Distance between GLN 740 O and GLN 720 N: 3.0 Dihedral #0:1058@C2 #0:1058@O2 #0:741@HD1 #0:741@ND1: -51.0515 Problem in per-frame script: Distance monitor already exists Thank you for any assistance, Anne-Frances - • - • - • - • - • - • - • - • - A.-F. Miller, Ph. D. (she/elle/sie) University Research Professor Professor of Chemistry University of Kentucky https://www.uky.edu/~afm/ Visiting Fellow, Einstein Foundation of Berlin

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Questions about Matchmaker and GDT
by Ralph Loring 11 Dec '21

11 Dec '21

Hi, I don't know if there's a special user group for Matchmaker but this also involves other aspects of Chimera. 1) I'm looking at AlphaFold structures of RIC-3, a chaperone for nicotinic receptors that is also an intrinsically disordered protein. There are pdbs for six species in the AlphaFold database: Human, mouse rat, fish, fly and worm. These differ tremendously in terms of sequence, size and predicted secondary structures but they all have a putative signal sequence and a transmembrane domain. I used Matchmaker to align the human pdb to each of the others. The results of combining all 6 looks like a bowl of spaghetti until the parts before the putative signal sequence and the C-terminal tails are deleted. Then I can see that the putative signal sequences and the transmembrane domains are in the same plane as if they are in a membrane. I just want to confirm that this is merely a lucky coincidence and that Matchmaker has no preference for aligning hydrophobic alpha helices into a planar space corresponding to a membrane. The coincidence, if it is one, is striking and I just want to make sure. Note that I have a similar question for AlphaFold, the source of the pdbs. 2) Does Chimera do Global Distance Testing (GDT)? For that matter, does ChimeraX (I've been thinking about switching and if it does, this may be what it takes to get over the activation energy barrier)? I can't find GDT in any of the directions. When Matchmaker runs, for instance comparing human and fly RIC-3, the sequence alignment score is only 270 but the RMSD is 1.6 angstroms (but only for 7 pruned atom pairs and when all 233 atom pairs are considered, the RMSD is 55 angstroms, so clearly not much overlap). I've heard that GDT corrects somewhat better than RMSD for not having precise superimposition. However, I don't know that it would make a lot of difference in this case but I'd like to find out. The mystery is that drosophila RIC-3 works almost as well as human RIC-3 in helping assemble human pentameric nicotinic receptors even though the structures are so different. Thanks for your help, Ralph Loring

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re-sampled map (volume resample #X onGrid #Y) difference with general mrc map
by Dmitry Semchonok 10 Dec '21

10 Dec '21

Dear colleagues, I have an issue with the output map re-sampled from the resampling step protocol. Could you please explain how different the re-sampled map is compared to the general mrc map (without rotation manipulations)? Because it seems that some important information is missing or/changed in the re-sampled.mrc Kind regards, Dmitry

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Questions about IMOD files in Chimera software.
by 박시훈 10 Dec '21

10 Dec '21

Dear chimera-users community, I have questions about opening IMOD files in Chimera software. Can I open the IMOD files (*.mod) in Chimera? Or, Can I make a hand-drawn mask file in Chimera? I could apply several filters and masks in my iso-surface map, however, I don't know how to apply these options in Chimera. Moreover, the reconstructed tomograms were shown to the inverted iso-surface map unlike IMOD.. Can I re-invert the iso-surface map in Chimera? Best regards Si Hoon Park

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Selecting residues from one chain
by Joao M.C. Teixeira 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Hi, I am a bit confused on how to select residues from a chain. This is the command I am trying:

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Chimera error at start-up
by Hernando J Sosa 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Dear Chimera, I cannot open Chimer anymore in a computer (Windos10 64) where it was running until yesterday. I tried with no success reinstalling the program and installing the latestChimera daily release. The error that I get at startup says: [cid:cfb0a3aa-9306-42f0-bfd0-328d433ceb1e] If I start in debug mode I get the following error in a command window: Cannot execute 'gzip': no automatic decompression of .Z files initializing general preferences loading Tix initializing graphics Return code: -1073741819 How can I resolve this issue? Thanks Hernando ___________________________________

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Mismatch between display and saved image
by Visvaldas K. 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Dear all, I get a very odd mismatch between what is displayed and what is saved as a png image. I am attaching two figures, and you can probably guess what I want. Of course I will try this in ChimeraX if I am not able to fix the figure, but the image took quite some work, so I'd hate redoing it... Or I could use screenshot I guess... But certainly this is some sort of bug. I'm using Chimera 1.15 on MacOS 12.0.1. Thank you, Vis

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Chimera on RDS Servers farm
by ROTH Stephane (DNUM) 09 Dec '21

09 Dec '21

Hi, We want to use Chimera on RDS Windows Server (Windows Server 2012). Its possible to use it on this environment ? What is the system recommendation to windows platform ? Best Regards, -- Cordialement, Stephane Roth 03 68 85 11 94 Chef de Projet / Ingénieur Systèmes Direction du Numérique Université de Strasbourg

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aPNG
by Frank Irby 07 Dec '21

07 Dec '21

I produce high quality Animated PNG files and it takes a lot of juggling different computers to accomplish.Is there a way to simply chose APNG from the movie recorder output pulldown menue?Would there be a plug in for that? My animations can be found at:https://www.deviantart.com/mandelscape/gallery/24158715/molecular Thank you Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Re: [Chimera-users] Question about Chimera Fit in Map
by Tom Goddard 07 Dec '21

07 Dec '21

Hi Rakesh, Chimera Fit in Map and also the measure correlation command by default only compute the cross-correlation within the displayed envelope of the first map. So it should give the masked value you are looking for, although the actual value will depend sensitively on the surface level of the first map that you choose since that will control which grid points near the boundary of your fragment are included. There is no right answer about how tightly to mask and since the correlation value is so sensitive to that it is not too meaningful to try to compare correlation values although people do it anyways. Check out the measure correlation and fit in map docs for more details https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/measure.html#correla… https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/fitmaps/fitmaps.h… Tom On 12/6/2021 5:09 PM, Rakesh Ramachandran wrote: > Sorry, what I meant was say I am fitting a fragment into a large map, > the cross correlation should be calculated only around the fitted > region of the fragment, that is any voxels outside the fragment > location should not be taken into account in the cross-correlation score. > > I need this because I am fitting fragments of different sizes into a > map and I tend to get quite similar cross correlation scores even > though principally it should. > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:03 PM Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net > <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: > > Hi Rakesh, > > I don't understand what you mean by "length normalized by > masking". Chimera can compute cross-correlation using the Fit in > Map panel. If you are fitting an atomic model to the map it needs > to simulate a map from the atomic model since correlation is > between two maps. You do that using the "Use map simulated from > atoms" option in the Fit in Map panel Options pane. > > Tom > > > On 12/6/2021 4:00 PM, Rakesh Ramachandran wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> I am using Chimera Fit in Map for EM fitting. Though it does >> fit well, I want to calculate a cross correlation score based on >> the model map size, that is the cross correlation should be >> length normalized by masking the rest of the map. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Rakesh Ramachandran > > > > -- > Regards > Rakesh Ramachandran

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Re: [Chimera-users] Question about Chimera Fit in Map
by Tom Goddard 07 Dec '21

07 Dec '21

Hi Rakesh, I don't understand what you mean by "length normalized by masking". Chimera can compute cross-correlation using the Fit in Map panel. If you are fitting an atomic model to the map it needs to simulate a map from the atomic model since correlation is between two maps. You do that using the "Use map simulated from atoms" option in the Fit in Map panel Options pane. Tom On 12/6/2021 4:00 PM, Rakesh Ramachandran wrote: > Hi Tom, > I am using Chimera Fit in Map for EM fitting. Though it does fit > well, I want to calculate a cross correlation score based on the model > map size, that is the cross correlation should be length normalized by > masking the rest of the map. > > -- > Regards > Rakesh Ramachandran

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Error when starting Chimera
by vaishnavy chaurasia 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

How I fix it.... Please help... Please it's urgent

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Re: [Chimera-users] mRNA Structure
by Elaine Meng 03 Dec '21

03 Dec '21

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 6:44 AM, SANDOVAL, KENNETH <K.SANDOVAL1(a)nuigalway.ie> wrote: > > Hello, > I have a predicted secondary structure of an mRNA molecule. I am interested in trying to visualize this with UCSF Chimera. But I'm unsure what file format the program accepts for this? Does it need some sort of mRNA equivalent of a .pdb file? > Thank you, > Kenneth Hello Kenneth, The recommended address for Chimera questions is chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu CC'd here. By secondary structure I'm guessing that you mean the base-pairing pattern, and not actually 3D atomic coordinates. For Chimera you would generally need 3D atomic coordinates, most commonly in PDB format. If that is really what you have (base-pairing information only), then here are two ideas for building a 3D structure in Chimera using that information: (1) The RNArtist plugin to Chimera - quite extensive, has a lot of nice features, needs to be downloaded separately: <https://github.com/fjossinet/RNArtist> <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/plugins/plugins.html> (2) The "rna" command in Chimera can also build models but much more roughly. See "rna model": <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/rna.html> <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/rna.html#model> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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Re: [Chimera-users] .dae export for ChimeraX
by Tom Goddard 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

Hi Byrne, I agree, OBJ and STL are very limited compared to Collada and GLTF. OBJ is supported by almost every 3D model program and STL is commonly used for 3D printing (single color) which is why they are in ChimeraX. GLTF is definitely the best option in ChimeraX for your case. There appear to be lots of programs that convert GLTF to Collada and the other direction too. But I have not tried any of them so don't have any recommendation. Let us know if you find one that works well -- other ChimeraX users may have the same need. A major stumbling block exporting 3D models from ChimeraX (or Chimera) is that they use vertex colors, while most of the non-biology 3D model world uses texture colors, and will simply ignore vertex colors losing all your color information. That example I linked to in the last email describes a relatively new ChimeraX feature to export texture colors (for limited cases, e.g. discrete colors only). Another common problem exporting molecular models for use in other software is that the file size and number of triangles is too large for the application that you want to use them in, often tens of millions of triangles or hundreds of Mbytes to Gbytes in size. The example also shows how to tell ChimeraX to limit the number of triangles. https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html Tom Model from gltf export from linked ChimeraX example > On Dec 2, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Byrne Pedit <bpedit(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > Hello Tom, > > Thanks for the response. I tried the GLTF export, not recognizable by Xcode (the development platform for iOS and Mac OS). The only ChimeraX file options I’ve found to be openable are OBJ and STL. These are, however, problematic and unusable. > > But your hint of using GLTF as an intermediary offers an avenue for exploration, it’s not a format I’ve used. I see it supports scene graph hierarchy, absent with OBJ and STL( exported from ChimeraX anyway) so this is promising. Now to find a converter. > > The GLTF export link is informative, it may help further refine my approach. Interestingly, the molecule you’ve chosen for demo purposes appears to be the one, or a variant thereof, I’ve been testing with! > > Thanks again, > > Byrne > > >> On Dec 2, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: >> >> Hi Byrne, >> >> We have long been interested in adding Collada format export of scenes from ChimeraX. Here is the feature request for that >> >> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/485 <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/485> >> >> But our scene export in ChimeraX has focused on GLTF format, as that has been the most requested. Here is an example showing GLTF export from ChimeraX (including texture colors). >> >> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/texture-may2021/export_3d.html> >> >> ChimeraX also exports OBJ, STL, X3D, VTK as shown in the save command docs >> >> https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#formats <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#formats> >> >> Can you make use of GLTF files? If not, a quick solution might be to convert ChimeraX GLTF files to Collada with third-party software. >> >> Tom >> >>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Byrne Pedit via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >>> >>> ChimeraX is awesome and definitely superior to the original but for the inability to export as .dae (Collada). Is that possibly on the to-do list? This is important for those of us (just me?) writing interactive molecular apps for devices. It is the only satisfactory path I’ve found between a PDB file and SCNNodes/Scenes in iOS. (See the iOS app ‘BioMole’, free, if interested in an application.) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list: Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:Chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> Manage subscription: https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users <https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users> >>> >> >

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UCSF software cannot be opened normally
by 免孑 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

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.dae export for ChimeraX
by Byrne Pedit 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

ChimeraX is awesome and definitely superior to the original but for the inability to export as .dae (Collada). Is that possibly on the to-do list? This is important for those of us (just me?) writing interactive molecular apps for devices. It is the only satisfactory path I’ve found between a PDB file and SCNNodes/Scenes in iOS. (See the iOS app ‘BioMole’, free, if interested in an application.)

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Curiosity regarding amino acid category in UCSF chimera
by Prathvi Singh 02 Dec '21

02 Dec '21

Hi, In UCSF chimera, when I go to Select > Residue > Amino Acid Category > Hydrophobic, the LYSINE residues also get selected. However, according to the Kyte-Dolittle scale, LYSINE is a fairly hydrophilic residue. Is there any specific reason why chimera lists them as hydrophobic residues? -- Prathvi Singh, Research Fellow, Department of Biological Sciences & Bioengineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur-208016

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Minimization on complex
by Francesca Magarotto - francesca.magarotto2＠studio.unibo.it 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

Hi, I need an advice regarding minimization of complexes. I've performed a virtual screening and I've selected some molecules of interest. Now, I've looked for the possibile interactions in the binding site and I would like to perform a minimization moving only the hydrogen atoms in the binding site. However, I have to create a new file pdb complex formed by my protein and one molecule from VS results. So, I opened the pdb file of the protein and the mol2 file of the molecule from the VS: now, do I need to save a pdb file of the complex and how to save it? I need the hydrogens to move according to the ligand inside the protein and I don't know if it's possibile with both the type of saving (is it better individual MOLECULE sections or combined MOLECULE section?). Moreover, I don't know if (for this kind of purpose) it's better first to save the complex in pdb file and then to use dockprep and minimization or use dockprep and minimization and only after saving the file of the complex. My main aim is to see if some hydrogens of the residues in the binding site move their places according to the presence of this ligand. Hope someone can help me, thanks.

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