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chimera manual
by bala 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hello all, I want to have the pdf version of chimera manual/user guide. I am not finding it anywhere ?. Where can i find it. The only pdf i see is the chimera quick reference guide. Thanks, Bala

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Re: [Chimera-users] Smooth Trajectory in MD Movie Tool
by Eric Pettersen 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi Yan, You _could_ write a script to do the averaging, but you would pretty much have to be an expert on how Chimera handles trajectory data to be able to write it in any reasonable amount of time. Since I am such an expert, I've written the script for you and attached it to this message. To do the averaging, simply have your trajectory open and then open the script (either with the File...Open menu or with the "open" command). Note that the script rewrites the coordinates of the trajectory. The only way to restore the trajectory to the "unaveraged" state is by reopening the original files. The main parameter in the script you might want to change is the "window" variable, which controls how many adjacent frames contribute to the averaging. The value in the script right now is 2, which means that the two frames to each side of a frame contribute to the average (with further-away frames contributing less). --Eric On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Yan Liang wrote: > Thank you very much Eric. I have tried "Hold selection steady" > function, and it helps a lot to reduce the overall movement of the > large molecule. But as for the residuals, they are still very shaky. > > I am thinking about writing a script to average the movement of > each atom, but I have no experience in Chimera scripting. Do you > think it is possible to write such scripts in Chimera? Thanks. > > Sincerely, > > Yan Liang > Graduate Student > Department of Chemical Engineering and Materials Science > University of Minnesota > > > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Eric Pettersen wrote: >> Hi Yan, >> Chimera doesn't yet support smoothing per se. What you can do is >> use "Hold selection steady" in MD Movie's Actions menu to hold one >> or more atoms (possibly all atoms) as steady as possible across >> the trajectory -- which will mostly eliminate the translational >> component of the "shakiness". This "holding steady" is most >> useful for small-molecule trajectories and replica-exchange >> trajectories. >> >> --Eric >> >> Eric Pettersen >> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >> >> >> On Apr 2, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Yan Liang wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I am using Chimera to make a MD movie. The problem is the movie >>> is too >>> shaky. Is it possible to smooth the trajectory by writing a Per- >>> Frame >>> script in MD Movie tool? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Yan Liang >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >> >

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Smooth Trajectory in MD Movie Tool
by Yan Liang 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi I am using Chimera to make a MD movie. The problem is the movie is too shaky. Is it possible to smooth the trajectory by writing a Per-Frame script in MD Movie tool? Thanks, Yan Liang

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chimera
by somnath Dutta 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

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chimera segmentation fault
by Selami ERCAN 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

hi. i'm using chimera-1.2470-linux_x86_64.exe on suse 10.3. in addition to this my graphic card is nvidia geforce 8600m gt 512 mb and also i have installed mesa and xorg softwares. and here is problem: using 1EP4.pdb from rcsb.org causes problem.whenever i select structure-->main, then action-->surface-->show it crashes. and it gives the report shown below. Copyright M.F. Sanner (March 2000) Compilation flags WARNING: class_arete2: warning hole in a reentrant face 17081 WARNING: class_arete2: warning hole in a reentrant face 22603 WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25771 (nba=-4) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25772 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25774 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25776 (nba=-3) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25779 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25781 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25783 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25785 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25787 (nba=-1) WARNING: classe_aretes1: No cycle in face 25789 (nba=-1) RESTART FROM SES: 1 radius of atom 2855 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 2857 goes from 1.640000 to 1.740000 radius of atom 2858 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 2871 goes from 1.880000 to 1.980000 radius of atom 6942 goes from 1.880000 to 1.980000 radius of atom 6945 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 6946 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 6947 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 6948 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 radius of atom 6987 goes from 1.460000 to 1.560000 radius of atom 6988 goes from 1.760000 to 1.860000 Partial mode Segmentation fault

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Eliminate density with small volume
by Bui Khanh Huy 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi all, I have an EM density map. Because it's quite noisy, when displayed as a surface rendering in Chimera, there are a lot of blobs surrounding my interested surface (not touching). Is there anyway that I can get rid of those blobs by allowing to display only the blobs with volume bigger than a certain threshold? Thanks, Huy

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Re: [Chimera-users] copy cmd in nogui script
by Eric Pettersen 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

On Mar 28, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Ryan Pavlovicz wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I saw your response on the Chimera user group to a question about > saving images in nogui mode. > You mentioned: > > With POVray in the latest snapshot, you can now use the "raytrace" > > > keyword of the copy command to get a ray-traced image in nogui mode. > > > > --Eric > > > Could you explain how to implement this? I could not figure it > out. Thanks, > > ryan Well you probably had trouble because, unbeknownst to me, what I wrote wasn't actually true. Currently, the geometry generation code of Chimera is intimately tied up with the OpenGL code, so Chimera still needs an OpenGL context even in nogui mode in order to generate the geometry to send to POVray. Rather than engage in an extensive rewrite of the Chimera internals, what we are doing for now is making builds that include the OS (off screen) Mesa libraries. We are making such builds for 32 and 64 bit Linux platforms, but only the 64- bit version is building right now. We expect to get the 32-bit version working as time allows in the next few weeks. You can get the 64-bit version by following the "Daily Builds" link off the Chimera home page. We aren't planning to make OS Mesa builds for the other platforms, but if there were enough demand we could change our minds. I've attached an image generated by the following set of commands: windowsize 640 480 open 3fx2 preset apply int 3 turn y 180 focus ligand copy file 3fx2 png raytrace

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list of atoms attributes
by Jean-Didier Maréchal 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi again, When using the python shell, I am often struggling to find the attribute for the atoms I work on. for at my list with the selected atoms, I caught that at[i].name gives the atom name of the entry at[i], at[i].residue provides with the name residue.chain, etc. Where can I find in the programmer's guide the full list of available attributes? What would be the way to ask for the serialNumber from the IDLE? Thanks lot JD On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 12:00 -0800, chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu wrote: > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: distance (Elaine Meng) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:00:37 -0800 > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] distance > To: "??" <lynnwuchao(a)gmail.com> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <0E85C396-8C7D-4182-A029-5C0155245C3A(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hi! > > The distances are listed in a separate dialog - choose "Tools... > Structure Analysis... Distances" from the menu to open that dialog. > You can adjust the number of decimal places in the measurement, and > there is a "Save" button if you want to save distances or other > measurements to a text file. > > I hope this helps, > Elaine > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html > > > > > On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:38 PM, ?? wrote: > > > Hi, folks, > > I select two atoms and measured their distance using the command > > distance and can see the exact distance value in the graphic > > interface, but when I go the log file i can not find it. > > Can anybody give me a hand and tell me why can I find it? Thanks.. > > _______________________________________________ > > Chimera-users mailing list > > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > > > End of Chimera-users Digest, Vol 58, Issue 24 > *********************************************

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vdw define
by Marta Rossini 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi all, I know in Chimera the existence of the command vdwdefine to set your desider vdw radius for a selection. My question is: it is possible to save this changes in a file (i.e. obtain a new file in any format convertible to pdb with the modified values)? or it's only a matter of visualization? thanks _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx…

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Criteras about hydrogen bonds in chimera
by zhaojunwei 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, all I have a question about the hbond. What is the definition about hydrogen bond in chimera? As we know, there're different criterias among softwares, I'm wondering the distence between donor atom and acceptor atom, and the angle of donor-hydrogen-acceptor in chimera. Any reply will be deeply appreciated! It'll be kind if you can send the reply to my address, cause I'm not in the mailing list. Junwei Zhao

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trajectory analysis
by bala 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Dear Chimerians, I have an amber trajectory. I want to use gromacs to do some analysis. Is it possible in chimera to i) convert amber traj to gromacs traj format ii) convert amber topo file to gromacs topo format Thanks, Bala

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selecting one water molecule
by hjoseph＠brandeis.edu 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi Everyone, I want to select one water molecule but every time I try to do that, all the molecules get selected. Could some one tell me the command line instruction for selecting water 241. Thanks, Helen Josephine

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] Wrapping Chimera in a Java program
by Tom Goddard 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi Fabrice, I do not think Chimera could run using Jython because Chimera uses dozens of compiled C/Python modules. You can communicate with Chimera via a pipe. One approach is to start Chimera with a popen() system call and send commands to Chimera's stdin using the ReadStdin capability: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/readstdin/readstdi… It is also possible to talk to an already running instance of Chimera using the "chimera --send <file>" shell command. This is used to have a web browser helper application directly send files to Chimera. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/options.html http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/webdata/webdata.ht… The implementation uses a socket that Chimera is listening on but it is somewhat tricky to find the right port number. It is saved on the local machine in a file as a security measure to prevent network connections. The details of that implementation are in your Chimera distribution chimera/share/send_to_chimera.py Scooter Morris in our lab has written code to communicate with Chimera from a Java application called Cytoscape. He might be able to provide more advice. Tom Fabrice Jossinet wrote: > Dear developers, > > I would like to launch Chimera from my Java program. I would like to > send messages to Chimera to highlight in its own display selections I > do in my Java program's display. I already did that with PyMOL using a > pipe communication. > > So, several questions: > - is it possible to start Chimera from a classical python distribution > (not the embedded python of Chimera)? One of my ideas is to start > Chimera from Jython, a Java implementation of Python > - is it possible to communicate with Chimera using a pipe ? > - and the most general question: is it possible to communicate with > Chimera from the outside? > > Thank you for your answers > > Fabrice > >

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origin of volume data
by Greg Pintilie 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

A question about data origin in densiy maps... I open a map using the python script (in IDLE): >>> import VolumeData >>> gd = VolumeData.mrc.open ( "MRC map file" )[0] looking at the origin of this map: >>> gd.origin (-135.679992676, -135.679992676, -135.679992676) It is different than the origin reported if I open the same map file in Volume Viewer; pasted from the Volume Viewer dialog: -136.75 -136.75 -136.75 Why the difference? As to why I care, it's because if I open the map as in the python script above and then subsequently use it to compute average density values for certain structures, they are different than the average density values reported in the 'Fit Model in Map' dialog. It would give me more peace of mind if they matched... Now to start speculating on why the difference, I've seen that, internally, MRC maps define the origin in terms of a grid value, for example -64,-64,-64 in a 128x128x128 map. So the first value for the origin, as in the script method above, is calculated as if the origin is at the _center_ of the first grid point: origin[0] = -64 * step + step/2 (where step is 2.13669279804), while the second value (showing up in Volume Viewer) is simply calculated right on the grid point: origin[0] = -64 * step What's the right way to think about this? In the worst case, it's really a pretty small offset so not a big deal. Greg

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Collaboratory tool removed ?
by Aurelien Grosdidier 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

Hello, I recently noticed that the current production version of Chimera (v1 build 2470) does not have the "Collaboratory tool" anymore. I wanted to give it a try and I am quite disappointed. From a previous changelog (http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/relnotes/1.2417.html) I read that "Collaboratory removed (use version 1.2309 for this tool)". My question is: can we expect this feature to be back one day, or should I look for an alternative ? Thanks, Aurélien.

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Chimera
by Robert Hilton 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

When using Chimera, I want to be able to use XY translation. In the help menu, I found that if I hold down the middle mouse button, I can control XY translation. However, I have a mac, and so have no middle mouse button. How can I control XY translation using a mac? Thanks, Rob Hilton hiltonlds(a)gmail.com

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copy cmd in nogui script
by Nick Horelik 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hi, This (http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2007-March/001396.html) answered most of my questions, but I have one more followup question. Is there any way for me to accept the POV-Ray Liscence in nogui mode? I don't have the capability to use the gui at this time. Thanks, Nick -- Tufts University 508.527.9625

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Re: [Chimera-users] using chimera on 3D EM map
by Tom Goddard 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hi Weimin, Thanks for explaining these problems. We intend to solve all of them (though it will take some time) and perhaps some already have solutions. 1) Volume eraser ball can't be made small enough. The ball can have any floating point radius value > 0. So you should be able to make it as small as you like. I've tried and had no trouble making it tiny. A radius value of 0 is not valid and the ball radius will be left at whatever it was prior to attempting to set it to zero. 2) There is no "undo" in volume eraser. Yes. This is a serious problem we plan on fixing. 3) No way to add density (as opposed to subtracting with volume eraser). I guess you mean you would like to use a 3d ball to mark the density you wish to keep instead of the density you want to erase. It might be easy to make a tool like this where you can paint the volume using a ball (like volume eraser). You could paint using one or more colors and then separate the different colored pieces into separate maps. The underlying code to do this is already in Chimera (color zone tool, and split map by color zone). It requires a way to place a marker that matches the painting ball -- basically just a "Color" button on the volume eraser dialog. Might be able to add this soon. I recently added plane by plane loop drawing for hand tracing surfaces that can be used with the new "mask" command to segment out the enclosed region (in current daily builds). But from what you say that is less useful in your high resolution case. 4) Statistical comparison of two maps. Chimera can report the correlation coefficient between two maps and it can optimize the position of one map within another. This tools was called "Fit Map in Map" in the current Chimera production release (version 1.2470) and is called "Fit in Map" (which also handles fitting models) in current Chimera daily builds. There is also a new option in "Fit in Map" that will update the correlation coefficient in real time as you move one map within the second map. Also there is a new "Fit in Map" option that will compute a simulated map from a PDB at a given resolution (like EMAN pdb2mrc) and will fit the simulated map and report its correlation in the experimental map. Are there other measures besides correlation coefficient that you want? From your example, maybe you want rotations in degrees between two different fits? Tom Weimin Wu wrote: > Dear Prof.: > > I am one postdoctoral in Prof. Wenjiang's group. We have employed > Chimera in our research and really appreciate it. However when our 3D > map goes beyond 5A (see Feb. 28, 2008 Nature paper) which enabled us > to see the boundaries among alpha helices and beta sheets, we meet > some problems in the segmentation which we do think you could help us > out. > > One problem is that the viewer eraser ball is too big even the radius > is set to zero. It prevented us from completely clearing the > neighboring signals. There is no undo option when using the eraser > function. Therefore we have to keep saving the intermediate maps. > > Another problem is that there is no 3D volume editor which can let us > add density in 3D EM map. Sometimes this is the most important for the > segmentation, because it is hard to tell which density should be > included if we go slice by slice, but it is much easier to tell > directly in 3D map with the stereo function. > > Another problem is that there is no statistical tool for analyzing the > slight difference between two 3D EM maps. Therefore it makes hard to > determine the fit quality of one map into the other, for example, when > fitting one subunit into the other, there is some conformation > difference between them, but we need quantitative values to evaluate > the difference and make a story. Something like in two PDBs, we can > fit one domain and check the difference of the other domain. > > If I don't explain the problems clearly, please let me know. Many thanks, > > weimin wu

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] fit map in map -- also fit a/pix at the same time ?
by Tom Goddard 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hi Stefan, Chimera cannot optimize the volume grid spacing when fitting a molecule model. I agree that would be useful. I'll add it to our requested features list. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/plans.html You can do this scale optimization by hand using the volume dialog Coordinates panel to change the voxel size (press the return key after you change the number), then press the Fit button on the Fit in Map dialog. With small scale changes the fit should converge each time and you can quickly try several different scales. The newer Chimera releases (Jan 31, 2008, 1.2492) available on the daily builds page can make a simulated map for your molecule at the desired resolution and report correlation coefficients which is probably better than average map values for this scale optimization. Tom

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Chimera_v1.2470
by Brittney L. Gurda 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hello, I have a general question about opening files in the new version. Upon opening my EM maps (in .pif format), my structure is in a solid box which makes viewing difficult. Has anyone encountered this problem before? The older version that I had (not sure which one) never had this issue. Currently I am converting the .pif to a .map file and that seems to work just fine, but I am still curious about where the box is coming from and how I can get rid of it...artificial unit cell perhaps? Thanks, Brittney L. Gurda

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pdb to density map function
by Jeff Triffo 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

hi, I think I recall seeing information about a pdb -> density map function (like an MRC density map). is this currently implemented/contained within Chimera? I can use an outside program to do this, but if it is already in Chimera I would prefer to do that. thanks, -Jeff

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Displaying volumes with negative densities
by Tom Goddard 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

Hi Julio, If you are creating volume contour surfaces where the objects of interest have more negative data values then you should turn off the "cap high values at box faces" option in the volume dialog surface and mesh options panel. Since you view these inverted density maps often you probably want to save that setting using volume dialog menu entry "Features / Save default dialog settings" so Chimera will use it in future sessions. Tom Dr .Julio Ortiz wrote: > Dear Thomas, > > I noticed that when displaying volumes as isosurfaces we can not > visualize negative densities. The volumes turns a solid cube bellow > cero. I can imagine that with volumes coming from some programs of > SPA like in EMAN, this is not a matter, because they use > protein=white. But we are always using protein=black. > > I wanted to ask you if there is a simple way to correct that, because > I love to use chimera for fast check of my volumes and it will be not > fun to change the contrast each time. > > Just for your info: the last version that works for me was: > chimera-1.2422-win32 > > Greetings, > Julio

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Principal axis of inertia
by Jean-Didier Maréchal 21 Mar '08

21 Mar '08

Hi everyone, I was wondering if there is a method available to calculate the principal axis of inertia of a protein (or a part of a protein) in chimera? If not what would be the easiest way to move forward? All the best, JD -- Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Professor Lector Computational Bioorganic and Bioinorganic Chemistry @Transmet Office C7/018 Edifici C.n. Campus de Bellaterra Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona 08193 Bellaterra, Catalunya, Spain Tel: (+34).935814936 Fax: (+34).935812920 e-mail: jeandidier.marechal(a)uab.es www: http://asklipio.qf.uab.es/cmc

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BILD object question
by William Jeffrey Triffo 21 Mar '08

21 Mar '08

hello, I have been writing simple .bild files for BILD objects (arrows, spheres) that I then load into Chimera. what would the commands be in a python script to generate a BILD model within the current session, so that I don't have to keep hand-writing and re-loading the .bild file (the contents of the .bild file are often outputted coordinates from such a script, that I then copy into a text file and load)? thanks, -Jeff

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turning off PipesAndPlanks or Axes
by Boaz Shaanan 21 Mar '08

21 Mar '08

Hi, How do I turn off PipesAndPlanks once they're depicted ? The same holds for Axes. (build 2492). Thanks, Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710 Skype: boaz.shaanan‎

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