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Re: [Chimera-users] multalignviewer/4650 (associations dialog problem)
by Eric Pettersen 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Hi Roberta, The bug you ran into is that the associations dialog wasn't handling non-polymer models correctly (some of your models had had all the protein removed, leaving just ligand). I've just put in enough of a fix so that your session can be used. If you get tomorrow's test build (following the "Test Builds" link off www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera) that will have the fix in it. It's not yet a complete fix because it only handles the case where you open the associations dialog _after_ the protein deletion has occurred (which is okay for you). I need to put in more work to make it handle the case where the deletion occurs after the associations dialog is open. When that fix is done you will get an automated mail about it as I change the bug report from "open" to "internal-fix" -- and then it will be available in the next test build. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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molecular modelization softwares
by DESPLAT Nelly 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Dear sir or madam, I am currently studying at the Université Paul Sabatier of Toulouse (France), in a Bioinformatics program (master degree) and I have a report to write, concerning molecular modelization softwares. Could it possible to obtain additional informations about your software Chimera? I would like to know its price, the price of an additionial module, and also how its maintenance work. I thank you ahead of time for your help. Sincerely. Nelly DESPLAT _____________________________________________________________________________ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail

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Visualizing an ion channel
by Francesco Pietra 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Hi Elaine: Perhaps trivial, though new for me: How to assemble reliably the essentials (to get the teepee) of the four alpha subunits of an ion channel when the Protein Data Bank gives the pdb file for one on the subunits? For example 2A79, a mammalian Kv1.2 ion channel. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

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Chimera POVRAY and Vista?
by Frank Neese 09 Oct '07

09 Oct '07

Dear Chimera team, First of all congratulations for a really nice program and thank you very much for making it available to the community! I like it a lot. I was nevertheless running into a problem when trying to create povray pictures on a windows vista PC. Is there anything i can do about it? With my best regards, sincerely yours, Frank Neese The output is below: running "C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\povray.exe" "d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.ini" "+Id:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.pov" "+Od:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.png" "+V" povray: cannot open the user configuration file C:\Users\neese\AppData\Roaming/.povray/3.6/povray.conf: No such file or directory povray: I/O restrictions are disabled. povray: cannot open an INI file, creating a temporary file 'C:\Users\Public\Desktop/pov36.ini'. povray: cannot write to C:\Users\Public\Desktop/pov36.ini: Permission denied Persistence of Vision(tm) Ray Tracer Version 3.6.1 (cl /nologo /Zc:forScope /Op- /GRX /EHc- /GF /G7 /MD /Zl /O2i) This is an unofficial version compiled by: UCSF Chimera <chimera(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> The POV-Ray Team(tm) is not responsible for supporting this version. POV-Ray is based on DKBTrace 2.12 by David K. Buck & Aaron A. Collins Copyright 1991-2003 Persistence of Vision Team Copyright 2003-2004 Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd. Primary POV-Ray 3.5/3.6 Developers: (Alphabetically) Chris Cason Thorsten Froehlich Nathan Kopp Ron Parker Contributing Authors: (Alphabetically) Steve Anger Eric Barish Dieter Bayer Steve A. Bennett David K. Buck Nicolas Calimet Aaron A. Collins Chris Dailey Steve Demlow Andreas Dilger Alexander Enzmann Dan Farmer Mark Gordon Christoph Hormann Mike Hough Chris Huff Kari Kivisalo Lutz Kretzschmar Jochen Lippert Pascal Massimino Jim McElhiney Douglas Muir Juha Nieminen Bill Pulver Eduard Schwan Wlodzimierz Skiba Robert Skinner Yvo Smellenbergh Zsolt Szalavari Scott Taylor Massimo Valentini Timothy Wegner Drew Wells Chris Young Other contributors are listed in the documentation. Support libraries used by POV-Ray: ZLib 1.2.3, Copyright 1995-1998 Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler LibPNG 1.2.16, Copyright 1998-2002 Glenn Randers-Pehrson LibJPEG 6b, Copyright 1998 Thomas G. Lane LibTIFF 3.8.0, Copyright 1988-1997 Sam Leffler, 1991-1997 SGI Redirecting Options All Streams to console..........On Debug Stream to console.........On Fatal Stream to console.........On Render Stream to console........On Statistics Stream to console....On Warning Stream to console.......On Parsing Options Input file: d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.pov (compatible to version 3.61) Remove bounds........On Split unions.........On Library paths: C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\fonts Output Options Image resolution 512 by 384 (rows 1 to 384, columns 1 to 512). Output file: d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross/image.png, 24 bpp PNG Graphic display......On (gamma: 2.2) Mosaic preview.......Off CPU usage histogram..Off Continued trace......Off Tracing Options Quality: 9 Bounding boxes.......On Bounding threshold: 1 Light Buffer.........On Vista Buffer.........On Draw Vista Buffer....Off Antialiasing.........On (Method 1, Threshold 0.300, Depth 3, Jitter 1.00) Clock value: 0.000 (Animation off) 0:00:00 Parsing File: d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.pov Line: 6 Possible Parse Error: Could not find file 'transforms.inc' File: d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.pov Line: 6 File Context (5 lines): #include "transforms.inc" global_settings { charset utf8 max_trace_level 10 } Parse Error: Cannot open include file transforms.inc. File: d:\HomeD\Research\Bonn\COLLAB - Gross\image.pov Line: 6 Parse Warning: Check that the file is in a directory specifed with a +L switch or 'Library_Path=' .INI item. Standard include files are in the include directory or folder. Please read your documentation carefully. Total Scene Processing Times Parse Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds (0 seconds) Photon Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds (0 seconds) Render Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds (0 seconds) Total Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds (0 seconds)

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Re: [Chimera-users] surface/4623 (Chimera surfacing failure)
by Eric Pettersen 09 Oct '07

09 Oct '07

Hi Jeff, Chimera doesn't communicate depth-cuing/fog info to POV-Ray yet. I will open a bug report about it with you included on the recipient list. What you may want to do in the interim to get a better looking image is to reposition the lights in the scene to reduce the shadows. You use Tools->Viewing->Lights to bring up the interface for position the key (bright) and fill (dim) lights. I've attached two images where I've done that. In both the key light is just slightly overhead and centered. The fill light in one is coming from slightly below and centered, and in the other the fill light is off (you have to go to the "advanced" section of the lighting interface to turn off lights). --Eric

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Re: [Chimera-users] dock-prep problem with Zn and K ions
by Eric Pettersen 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

Hi Joe, If you care about the protonation of the SHH ligand in that structure then I would actually recommend you use one of the new test builds (follow the "Test Builds" link off the Chimera home page). There have been improvements since the 1.2422 release in protonating atoms involved in coordination complexes, and in protonating ring nitrogens in non-standard residues (though the latter isn't directly relevant in your case). --Eric On Oct 8, 2007, at 12:17 PM, zzj wrote: > Hi Eric, > Sorry for the mess. The old Chimera version is 1.2259. > I just downloaded the latest version (1.2422). It works perfectly fine > the same PDB. Guess I'll stick to this version. > thanks a lot. > -Joe > > On 10/8/07, zzj <zzjsail(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Eric, >> thanks for your reply. I am using PDB 2PQO. The Chimera version is >> beta version 1 build 2259 2006/07/11 >> platform: darwin >> windowing system: aqua >> I am working on a Mac OS X 10.4.10 (G5). It seems Chimera works fine >> other than the problem I mentioned. >> -Joe >> >> On 10/8/07, Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>> I can run Dock Prep on a PDB file containing zinc (1zip) without >>> the problem >>> you're getting. Can you tell me what PDB you're using, and what >>> version of >>> Chimera? >>> >>> --Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> Eric Pettersen >>> >>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>> >>> pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>> >>> On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:54 AM, zzj wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> I am preparing dock6 files in Chimera using the Dockprep option. The >>> Zn and K ions in the PDB files are giving me problems at the >>> point of >>> adding hydrogen. Everthing works fine if I remove these ion atoms. >>> Here is the Chimera Error message: >>> AttributeError: addHinfoDialog instance has no attribute >>> "cancerlCB". >>> I can select and highlight these ions without problem. I tried to >>> give >>> different names for the ions. Nothing worked. >>> Any suggestion is highly appreciated! >>> -Joe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >>

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dock-prep problem with Zn and K ions
by zzj 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

Hi there, I am preparing dock6 files in Chimera using the Dockprep option. The Zn and K ions in the PDB files are giving me problems at the point of adding hydrogen. Everthing works fine if I remove these ion atoms. Here is the Chimera Error message: AttributeError: addHinfoDialog instance has no attribute "cancerlCB". I can select and highlight these ions without problem. I tried to give different names for the ions. Nothing worked. Any suggestion is highly appreciated! -Joe

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End graphical representation from Dock tutorials
by Francesco Pietra 08 Oct '07

08 Oct '07

I carried out all Dock6.1 tutorials with the aid of Chimera 1.2422 and DMS. The relevant files used for, and got from, the flexible-ligand docking tutorial are attached. I believe I used defaults. The out file attached is the one of the four out files (from mpirun -np 4 ....) that seems to me to be relevant. How to view graphically the best scored ligand from flex_scored.mole2 in the protein? Just combine flex_scored.mole2 with the ligand-deprived receptor? This in view of my project of looking for docking between a family of lypophilic natural products (conformationally studied in vacuum with Amber9 simulated annealing) and a complex, large protein. I.e., by carrying out a process of the type illustrated by the docking tutorial for each pocket of the protein. I know there is interaction between the two (though a mere disassembling of the lipid bilayer can't be rigorously ruled out yet) but no idea where. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658

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Protein RMSD
by Elaine Meng 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

Hi John and everybody, I forgot to mention the following additional ways to calculate RMSD in Chimera if you are working with a conformational ensemble (different conformations/configurations of the same set of atoms): - if the ensemble is opened as a trajectory in MD Movie, you can calculate an all-by-all RMSD map http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/movie/ framemovie.html (go to the "RMSD Analysis" section) ... also covered in a tutorial http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ ensembles2.html#part2 - if the ensemble is present as multiple MODELs within a single PDB file opened the normal way in Chimera, you could use the EnsembleMatch tool http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/ ensemblematch/ensemblematch.html ... also covered in a tutorial http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ ensembletut.html I don't know if these pertain to the original question, but I mention them for completeness. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Generating Spheres tutorial
by Francesco Pietra 05 Oct '07

05 Oct '07

I am running Chimera 1.2422 on a Linux desktop and DOCK6.1 and DMS on a scp-linked Linux parallel machine. Following the "Generating Spheres" tutorial of dock, I verified that DMS works correctly. Though, I am unable with Chimera to visualize properly the rec.ms and sphere_cluster.pdb (the files I have generated are identical to those downloaded). With rec.ms I am unable to visualize the small molecule inside the protein. With sphgen_cluster.pdb I can only see disconnected pieces, thogh placed as expected from the tutorial. Clearly, I need to pass to a Chimera tutorial. Which one(s) for the case in point? I apologize for the pedestrian questions. Though, coming from organic chemistry and ab initio calculations, I am finding Amber9, DOCK6.1, DMS, and Chimera no minor burden. Quite interesting, however. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

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Re: [Chimera-users] How to "Align" two atoms
by Thomas Goddard 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hi Matt, Many Chimera commands are defined in chimera/share/Midas/__init__.py They are sometimes a pain to call from Python. Here is some code for the align command. Tom from chimera import openModels, selection m = openModels.list()[0] sel = selection.ItemizedSelection() sel.add(m.atoms[0:2]) from Midas import align align(sel) Matthew Baker wrote: > I'm writing a module. I've created a model and added it to the open > models. How can I reproduce the command-line function > > align #1:1 #1:2 > > The variable names for my two atoms are newModel.atoms[0] and > newModel.atoms[1]. > > Thanks, > Matt >

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Fit map in map
by src9697 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hello, I was just searching the archieves and I understand now that my last question was alittle dumb (i.e. the x,y,z rotation angles are not helpful). In this case does the "Rotation angle" and the " Axis" define a single rotation that transforms the "Fit map" to the "with in" map. Can I draw the axis using a .bild file (i.e .arrow with start and end coords given by axis and axis point). if I want to compare several maps to one reference, is it possible to define a single axis for them all? such that i can compare them all just by the magnitude of the rotation? does this make sense? thanks in advance sean

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Fit map in map
by src9697 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Hello, I was wondering if it is possible to use the output (translation matrix, axis, ect.) from the "Fit map in map" command to obtain the angles of rotation around the x, y and z axis given an arbitrary origin (i.e. the center of the map). thanks sean

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Protein RMSD
by Beale, John 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Is there any feature in Chimera that will allow the calculation of the RMSD between a protein and a reference structure? Thanks! John Beale

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updating hydrogen bonds in an MD movie
by E. Merkley 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Hi Chimera crew, I am using chimera to visualize an MD trajectory. I want to look at the fluctuations of hydrogen bonding patterns in a helix over the course of the trajectory. Is there a way to use Find HBonds on each frame and display the updated pseudobonds as I view the movie in Chimera? Also, may I take this occasion to point out that requiring consecutive frames to have consecutive numbers in the file names is inconvenient. For instance, my simulation is 41 ns long, and the structures are stored (in our in-house format) every 1 ps. So rather then write out 41000 .pdb files, I'll write them out every 10 or 100 ps. To use chimera to view a movie, I have to rename the files using a perl script. Incidentally, I've been using Chimera for 3 years now and love it. -Eric Merkley Graduate student Biochemistry Department University of Washington

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chimera instalation
by Paola Beassoni 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Dear all, i have downloaded chimera 1.2422 for linux and i don know hoe to install it. I have OpenSUSE but i am really new in linux. I have the file "chimera-1.2422-linux.exe" but i don know how to run it. My shell doen recognizes the command "run". So, please if anyone can help me i would really appreciate it. Best Regards Paola -- Paola Beassoni - PhD Dpto. Biologia Molecular - FCEFQyN Universidad Nacional de Rio Cuarto Río Cuarto - Argentina 00-54-358-4676422 00-54-358-4676232 (Fax)

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chimera for Amber9
by Francesco Pietra 02 Oct '07

02 Oct '07

Having installed DOCK6.1/DMS (debian Linux parallel amd64) and Chimera 1.2422 (scp-linked desktop Debian Linux i386), may I ask: 1) Can I use Chimera for Amber9 in place of VMD, which I currently use? 2) Being superficially familiar with VMD, I was looking in Chimera for *.prmtop and *.inpcrd file types, as well as rst file, etc.. I suppose I was unable to turn Chimera to use with Amber9. That said, I was very much impressed by Chimera at the first touch. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469

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Setting camera viewpoint
by Thomas Goddard 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

Hi Matt, There is no Chimera command to set the camera. But there are commands to orient and position the displayed models precisely (turn, move, scale, cofr, clip, savepos, reset). The Chimera world keeps the camera fixed and moves the models. If you want to use Euler angles there is a plugin to do that called Transform Molecule Coordinates available at: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/experimental/experimental.html Tom Matthew Baker wrote: > Tom, > > Is there a way of specifying a camera position and a viewing angle from > the command line in chimera. I want to make a few snapshots of a > molecule (actually, several different PDBs) with very specific view angles. > > Thanks > > Matt

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Frozen chimera
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 28 Sep '07

28 Sep '07

I have the following problem: When rotating molecules or volumes the whole computer freezes for a while. Sometimes recover and will freeze again after a few more molecule movements. Sometimes the whole system crash, the blue screen appear and a whole reboot is needed. The problem most likely is graphic card related. I did reported it before and was suggested to change the driver. I did but it did not solve the problem. My system currently is as follow: Chimera 1.2422 Windows XP service pack-2 Dell Precision 530 with Dual Xeon 1.4 GHZ processors and 1 GB RAM Graphic Card: NVDIA Quadro 900 XGL Video BIOS version 4.25.0027.05 ForceWare version: 78.01 Before I had: ForceWare version 91.36 So both of these video driver had problems. I wonder if anybody has experienced something similar and found the right driver. Thanks Hernando

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reconstructing x-ray structure
by Nevin Gerek 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

Hello, I am wondering if there is an option in Chimera to reconstruct exact place for binding peptide. I do have x-ray structures and binding peptide was incorporated as a C-terminal extension. When I used these structures, I do not get protein-peptide contact information in our model. Is there any way to reconstruct x-ray structure data with the right peptide binding information? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Z. Nevin Gerek, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow ----------------------------------------------------- The Center for Biological Physics Arizona State University PO Box 871504 Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 Phone: (480) 727-8897 nevin.gerek(a)asu.edu

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sgi core dump
by bala 27 Sep '07

27 Sep '07

Dear chimerians, Goodday. I installed the latest-chimera for sgi irix. Installation was completed successfully. But when i give chimera, it throws the following core.. Kindly write me how to get rid of the same. ce/BPT/RangeErr/DivZero/Ovflow trap (core dumped) thanks, Bala

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Docking of PDB data
by Alexander Solodukhin 19 Sep '07

19 Sep '07

Dear Listers, I have got the CCP4 3d map of PKC created from tilted series of 2d crystals grown on lipid monolayers. Unit cell: a=b=53A, alpha=beta=90 deg and gamma=120 deg. X-rays 3d structures of three fragments: C1b, C2 of the regulatory domain and catalytic domain are available from PDB data bank. When I try to dock PDB files or their maps created with SPIDER or SITUS programs by the use of 'fit models in maps' or 'fit maps in maps' in CHIMERA, programs place this fragments into one only place around the point that looks like a 'center of gravity' of CCP4 model. If I cut off the part of model where this point is, anyway program places these fragments into the same point out of the selected subregion. How can I fix this problem? I understand that I have to assign the same origin of coordinates for my model and fragments, but I do not know how to do this. Alexander Solodukhin, Ph.D. Department of Anesthesiology University of Virginia Health System P.O.Box 800710 Charlottesville VA 22906-0710

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Molecular surface crash
by Thomas Goddard 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hi Markus, I computed a molecular surface for the PDB file you gave me by changing the probe radius from 1.4 A to 1.399 A. I set the new probe radius using the "New Surface" category of the Preferences dialog (menu Favorites / Preferences). The "New Surface" category was added in Chimera 1.2430 (July 23, 2007) so you'll need the newest Chimera snapshot on Linux http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html#snapshots or a weekly Chimera build (very latest code) on other platforms (Mac, Windows) http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/alpha-downloads.html New Chimera surface calculation code is still 6 months away. Tom Markus Voehler wrote: > Tom > > I have switched from my SGI to a RHEL 5 machine and see the same > behavior now on that computer as I have seen on the Mac. Some pdb files > do not seem to allow me to show the surface plot. This leaves me with no > option to display the surface for some pdb's. In the past I was just > doing this work on the SGI, which worked fine. I have tried your > suggestion about increasing the vdv radius again on the Linux box, but > it did not help either on this computer. Has there been any resolution > to the mentioned report 1295? > > I have deposited the pdb online, in case you want to reproduce the > problem on your cpu. The link is: > > [deleted] > > Any help is appreciated. > > Markus >

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When structures and density maps don't align
by Walter R.P. Novak 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

Hi All, Amongst my colleagues (to whom I constantly evangelize Chimera) there is often an issue opening pdb and map files together. Specifically, sometimes the maps and pdb coordinates are not superimposed (often drastically). I have been able to reproduce the issue so let me explain what works and what doesn't. What works: If you take a pdb file and an mtz into Phaser (from the ccp4 suite) then refmac for rigid body refinement and convert the output mtz to a map using mapman it works. The pdb and map superimpose perfectly. What doesn't work: If you take a pdb file (of known correct solution but not transformed to the correct coordinates) and throw it into refmac (ccp4) and do some rigid body refinement and then convert the resulting mtz into a ccp4 map, the map is perfectly good (the statistics are identical to using the phaser placed model), but when opened in Chimera they do not superimpose. Both of the methods above appear valid as far as structure determination (R and Rfree are identical, etc) and I know coot will align the model and map and I believe pymol will too, though I don't use pymol personally so I cannot vouch for that. Is the correct transformation information hidden in a file somewhere so that Chimera can align the two files automatically. Often people skip the phaser step and drop the model right into refinement and then manually aligning in Chimera becomes difficult. Best, Wally Walter R.P. Novak, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Rosenstiel Basic Medical Research Center Brandeis University 415 South St. MS 029 Waltham, MA 02454-9110 Phone: (781) 736-4944 Fax: (781) 736-2405

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Benchmark scores
by Thomas Goddard 10 Sep '07

10 Sep '07

Hi Gabor, Your Quadro FX 1500 benchmark scores are about the same as the fastest system we have seen. I'll add them to our benchmark web page today. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/benchmarks.html Thanks for sending the numbers. Tom Gabor Papai wrote: > Hi! > > The benchmark scores of my PC are: > > CPU Information > Processor (CPU): Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz > Speed: 2 401,96 MHz > Memory Information > Total memory (RAM): 2,0 GB > Total Swap: 4,0 GB > > OS Information > OS: Linux 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6 i686 > System: Fedora Core release 6 (Zod) > > Display Info > Vendor: nVidia Corporation > Model: Quadro FX 1500 > Memory: 256 MB > > Benchmark scores > surface 839 mesh 809 contour 179 solid 435 recolor 161 > > Test was done: 07 Sept. 2007 > Chimera 2422 > > I don't know whether these scores are good or not, I'm not familiar with > them. > Bye, > Gabor >

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