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Detecting residue from command line
by Francesco Pietra 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

Sorry for a question that was surely answered many times. How to detect on the screen (from command line) residues from their resSeq number?. I have two different sets of WAT: 522-9999 and 0-4759 and want to check where 0-521 are located in a protein-ligand-POPC membrane. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

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morphing movie
by Elaine Meng 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

> Actually I would like to do some movie with chimera but I never used > before. I have two crystal structure of two different conformation of > the protein that I work with. I would like to see the trajectory from > conformation 1 to 2. I just downloaded the chimera but I don't know > how to start. > > Could you tell me how to make the movie? I would appreciate you help. > Is that possible to load molecule 1 and 2 and see how the trajectory > is ? Begin forwarded message: From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Date: November 30, 2007 10:29:41 AM PST It sounds like you want to use the Morph Conformations tool (under Tools... Structure Comparison). If you have two structures, it will "make up" a series of in-between structures to create a trajectory. You have to match (superimpose) the two structures yourself first. There are different options of how to make the in-between structures and how many to make. The trajectory-viewing tool, MD Movie, is automatically started to show the trajectory. From MD Movie you can record the trajectory as a movie file (Quicktime or other formats) or just save it as a PDB file for later viewing in Chimera. Probably you will need to learn a little bit about using Chimera so that you can set the display (ribbons, background color, displaying important sidechains) how you want for the movie. Chimera comes with a User's Guide. You can open it directly or search it from the Chimera Help menu. Also clicking the Help buttons on dialogs will automatically open the corresponding man pages. I will give some links to our Web site, but most of the same pages are included with your download. Tutorial on matching structures and making nice images: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ frameimages.html Manual page for Morph Conformations: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/morph/ morph.html for MD Movie: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/movie/ framemovie.html (see the "Recording a Movie" section) For basic Chimera use, there is "Getting Started" tutorial: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/menutut.html and a more detailed version of that at our web site (not in the User's Guide): http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/Outreach/Tutorials/GettingStarted.html but if you get stuck or have trouble finding something, you can ask me about it. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Re: [Chimera-users] Question regarding Chimera usage
by Tom Ferrin 30 Nov '07

30 Nov '07

------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:06:54 -0800 From: swetha davuluri <swethadn(a)yahoo.com> To: tef(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: Question regarding Chimera usage Dear Dr. Ferrin, I have a question Chimera usage. I am trying to fit a model to an EM map. I cou ld lock the map from moving but I am not able to transitionally shift the model . The translational shift box in "Fit Model in Map" is checked. Please let me k now how to transitionally move the model. Regards, Navya. _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.ya hoo.com/ ------- End of Forwarded Message

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2D for 3D display
by Gang 'Gary' Ren 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Hi, Chimera, I wonder how to create the 3D display by using the 2D image as below? http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ImageGallery/entries/afm/stmv-afm-large.png best regards Gary ---------------- Gang Ren, Ph.D. Phone: (415) 476-8284; Fax: (415) 514-2550 Email: gren(a)msg.ucsf.edu; Web: 3dem.ucsf.edu Department of Biochemistry & Biophysics 1700, 4th Street, Byers Hall (QB3), room 301C San Francisco, CA 94143-2532

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 29 (heightmaps)
by Jonathan Hilmer 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

I would also be interested to learn how to do heightmaps in Chimera, or if it would be possible to add such a feature. Right now we use ImageJ (which doesn't have enough functionality) and Blender (which has too much), while Chimera would be perfect. In response to Gabe's question, it's not terribly convenient but you could use the Zone tool to generate just the 'positive' region and save that as a unique file. The 'combine.py' could then be used to subtract out the positive from the original, leaving the zeroed parent density file. Jonathan > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:12:40 -0800 > From: "Gang 'Gary' Ren" <gren(a)msg.ucsf.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] 2D for 3D display > To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <web-5552878(a)msg.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" > > Hi, Chimera, > > I wonder how to create the 3D display by using the 2D > image as below? > > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ImageGallery/entries/afm/stmv-afm-large.png > > best regards > > Gary > > ---------------- > Gang Ren, Ph.D. > Phone: (415) 476-8284; Fax: (415) 514-2550 > Email: gren(a)msg.ucsf.edu; Web: 3dem.ucsf.edu > > Department of Biochemistry & Biophysics > 1700, 4th Street, Byers Hall (QB3), room 301C > San Francisco, CA 94143-2532 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:23:49 -0800 > From: Thomas Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] reverse "zone" tool? > To: Gabriel Lander <glander(a)scripps.edu> > Cc: 'Chimera BB' <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <474F03B5.5060609(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Gabriel Lander wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > is it possible to somehow make the "zone" tool in the volume viewer do > > the reverse of what it does? I have a PDB docked into a density file > > and I want to remove the density surrounding it so that it's easier to > > focus on the rest of the structure. > > By the way, I thoroughly enjoyed your demo of the new Chimera features > > here at the cryo course, I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to chat very > > much afterwards, > > Cheers, > > -gabe > > > > > Hi Gabe, > > One trick would be to use the "Color Zone" tool to color the surface > near the fit model completely transparent (hence invisible). Use menu > entry Actions / Color / From Editor, click the Opacity button and set > opacity to zero. Your molecule will be invisible. Then use Tools / > Volume Data / Color Zone, select all atoms (Select / Select All) and > press the color zone dialog Color button. Then go back and change the > color of the molecule to something visible. > > Three drawbacks of this approach. First, it doesn't allow you to > save the map with the region near the molecule zeroed out -- it is only > coloring the surface. Second, having a partially transparent surface > makes the rendering slower. Third, Chimera only handles one transparent > model correctly. If you try to add a second transparent surface you > will see odd effects, like the invisible patch blocks the second > transparent surface. If these limitations are severe, I can give you a > bit of Python code that actually makes a copy of the map with the part > near the molecule erased. > > Tom > > > ------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] reverse "zone" tool?
by Thomas Goddard 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Gabriel Lander wrote: > Hi Tom, > is it possible to somehow make the "zone" tool in the volume viewer do > the reverse of what it does? I have a PDB docked into a density file > and I want to remove the density surrounding it so that it's easier to > focus on the rest of the structure. > By the way, I thoroughly enjoyed your demo of the new Chimera features > here at the cryo course, I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to chat very > much afterwards, > Cheers, > -gabe > Hi Gabe, One trick would be to use the "Color Zone" tool to color the surface near the fit model completely transparent (hence invisible). Use menu entry Actions / Color / From Editor, click the Opacity button and set opacity to zero. Your molecule will be invisible. Then use Tools / Volume Data / Color Zone, select all atoms (Select / Select All) and press the color zone dialog Color button. Then go back and change the color of the molecule to something visible. Three drawbacks of this approach. First, it doesn't allow you to save the map with the region near the molecule zeroed out -- it is only coloring the surface. Second, having a partially transparent surface makes the rendering slower. Third, Chimera only handles one transparent model correctly. If you try to add a second transparent surface you will see odd effects, like the invisible patch blocks the second transparent surface. If these limitations are severe, I can give you a bit of Python code that actually makes a copy of the map with the part near the molecule erased. Tom

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Server and Client machines with different OS
by Isabelle Vergely 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Hello, I know that it is possible to open one or several pdb files on a linux machine using a system command line like "> chimera [options] [input1 input2 ...]". My question is: Is it possible to use this command on a linux server to display chimera on a Windows client machine? Thank you very much in advance for your help. Best Regards. Isabelle

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ppt and movies
by Markus Voehler 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

I have recorded a movie of a pdb in chimera with the following command: movie record supersample 3 . . movie stop movie encode bitrate 6000 mformat avi output ./pol_b_movie.avi I can import it into ppt (2004, V 11.3.5) on my Mac (OS X 10.4.11) and it plays fine in the editing mode, but when I go to the slideshow and start the movie, there is a blank screen for the duration of the movie. When it is done, it shows the standing slide again. Any idea what might be going on? Also, is there a better way to improve the resolution then setting the bitrate to 6000, 30 f/s? I have tried the supersample 3 option, but this does not seem to make much of a difference in the final movie. Any input is appreciated. Markus

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Re: [Chimera-users] [Fwd: Re: Chimera hide all models button]
by Eric Pettersen 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

I guess I do have some tips to offer here. You can use the "Configure..." button of the Model Panel to change what happens when you double click on a model. By default, double clicking shows the attributes of a model. You can have double click do any combination of button actions, so you could instead have double click both "show only" the model and "activate only" the model. With that configuration, if you wanted to show and activate two specific models you would click on one model and then control-double- click on the other one. If you want to show and activate all models you would click on the first model listed in the Model Panel and then shift-double-click the last model. --Eric On Nov 27, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > Eduardo thinks we need better controls for showing just one or two > models and activating just one model when many are present. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Chimera hide all models button > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:34:07 -0700 > From: Eduardo Sanz-Garcia > To: Tom Goddard > > > Tom Goddard wrote: >> Hi Eduardo, >> >> Perhaps clicking on the "Shown" heading in the Model Panel could >> hide all models if all are shown, or show all if all are hidden. >> If some are hidden and some are shown maybe it would show all, >> then a second click would permit you to hide all. I don't really >> like this idea because very few people would know to try it. >> Usually clicking on list headings sorts using that column. > That is true. I didn't realize about this. >> Although sorting may seem not too useful for the "Shown" column I >> can imagine if you have 50 models open with just a few shown you >> might want to sort to bring those to the top. >> >> A slightly harder way to show just one model is to select its >> line in the Model Panel and press the "Show only" button in the >> right column of buttons. Unfortunately that button is way down on >> that scrolled list of buttons. You can hide many of those buttons >> using the "Configure..." button on the Model Panel and it will >> remember the hidden ones in your preferences file. But there is >> no way to reorder the buttons as far as I know. >> >> The oval next to the step size above volume histograms allows you >> to show/hide that map. Maybe I could enhance that so if you use >> the right mouse button instead of the left then it shows that map >> and hides all others. Cryptic but not unexpected behavior. > Yes, this is a little cryptic but a fast method. >> Still there are only 3 histograms shown by default. Perhaps if I >> added the scrollbar for the histograms as you suggest that would >> further improve switching display between individual maps. > I believe that the scrollbar is a very good idea! > > I believe that Chimera should improve the way to show or activate > all the models faster from the GUI. I spend a lot of time > activating two models, deactivating the rest, and showing only > these two models. The command line is fast but there are some, like > me, that always forget the commands. >> >> Let me know what ideas you think are best. It is quite difficult >> to make the user interface simple to use and powerful. Thanks for >> your ideas. >> >> Tom >> >> Eduardo Sanz Garcia wrote: >>> Do you mind if I share a very personal suggestion? >>> I always open 5 or more maps at the same time (chimera >>> directories*/*100.map) . I normally want to examine each >>> individually, and then compare them. I would like to undisplay >>> all of them at the same time. I know that this is possible from >>> the command line (~modeldisplay), but I always forget it. It >>> would be nice to have the same function from the GUI. I am >>> suggestion to be able to click in the black circle (bottom image) >>> and un/display all the models at once. >>> >>> Anyway, thanks for the volume viewer capabilities of chimera. >> >> >

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How do I
by Eduardo Sanz Garcia 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

I am using Chimera alpha version 1 build 2467 2007/10/31 I liked how each volume map opened has a different color. That's a great idea!! But I have a problem, I am displaying 4 volume maps at the same time. The volume viewer window only shows 3 histograms, therefore to modify the threshold of the fourth I have to close one of the volumes. Is there a way to modify the fourth histogram in the volume viewer window without close another? I also found a different behavior if you close the upper, middle and bottom histogram. Thanks.

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saving color palette
by William Jeffrey Triffo 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

is there a way I can save the color palette to a file? I realize it seems to be saved as a user setting somewhere because it always pops up again in the same configuration as the previous session, but I would like to be able to back it up intentionally if possible. Also, is it possible to save/load various palettes? thanks, -Jeff --

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Chimera vs Amber, which one digresses from the average pdb rules?
by Francesco Pietra 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

A lipid/water pdb file that was good for Leap (Amber9) to get top/crd, once passed through Chimera 2470 to remove residues is no more good for Leap. All TER were removed by Chimera, ATOM renamed HETATM, while CONECT records were added. As such, Leap said: In file [chirality.c], line 142 Atom named C217 from POP did not match Aborting I knew such type of message. There is no C217 atom. On previous (different) occasions, insertion of TER records put the house in order. I inserted all TERs between POPC residues and between WAT residues (thanks to Python!). Now Leap said: In file [atom.c], line 444 bond AtomProblem found Aborting As I did not know this type of message, I tried to investigate that line 444. Following vim's command :n,444 that line, indicated at bottom of terminal as "444,1", reads HETATM 441 O31 POPC 5 -44.082 -12.831 14.685 1.00 0.00 O A carbon atom (if "[atom.c]" means carbon, is at line 447,1, which reads HETATM 444 C32 POPC 5 -46.343 -12.925 15.140 1.00 0.00 C In the original (good for Leap) pdb those lines read: ATOM 441 O31 POPC 4 -37.722 -19.453 18.019 1.00 0.00 L11 O ATOM 444 C32 POPC 4 -39.844 -19.273 18.941 1.00 0.00 L11 C Chimera also changed atom names, such as in the final part of the POPC residue (Sybyl naming?, if so, there is an alternative in Chimera not to follow Sybyl rules?) HETATM 528 XH14 POPC 5 -47.646 -9.424 -0.112 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 529 YH14 POPC 5 -46.217 -10.553 -0.172 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 530 5C31 POPC 5 -47.890 -11.168 -1.419 1.00 0.00 C HETATM 531 XH15 POPC 5 -47.763 -12.309 -1.296 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 532 YH15 POPC 5 -48.986 -11.063 -1.417 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 533 6C31 POPC 5 -47.242 -10.566 -2.756 1.00 0.00 C HETATM 534 XH16 POPC 5 -46.135 -10.759 -2.831 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 535 YH16 POPC 5 -47.802 -11.112 -3.597 1.00 0.00 H HETATM 536 ZH16 POPC 5 -47.451 -9.454 -2.737 1.00 0.00 H TER which, in the original (good) pdb was: ATOM 528 H14X POPC 4 -38.665 -14.879 4.398 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 529 H14Y POPC 4 -39.080 -16.603 3.952 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 530 C315 POPC 4 -40.370 -15.221 2.996 1.00 0.00 L11 C ATOM 531 H15X POPC 4 -41.330 -15.752 3.099 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 532 H15Y POPC 4 -40.694 -14.148 3.019 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 533 C316 POPC 4 -39.787 -15.573 1.664 1.00 0.00 L11 C ATOM 534 H16X POPC 4 -39.553 -16.661 1.544 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 535 H16Y POPC 4 -40.534 -15.211 0.948 1.00 0.00 L11 H ATOM 536 H16Z POPC 4 -38.782 -15.094 1.533 1.00 0.00 L11 H TER Although it is not clear to me yet where really Leap crashed (nor am I placing Leap as the standard; simply I have to get top/crd from it, if I want to carry out MD with Amber). Elaine already kindly clarified the ATOM/HETATM issue. I hope now to get help about the atom names , ie a table of conversion to get Leap working or a not-Sybyl choice in Chimera. Once again, I regret very much to pose so many problems of language. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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<< Rendering proteins with Chimera >>
by Hatuey Hack 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi all, As a Chimera new users, I notice that the proteins are rendering different depending on the program they where prepared. I used the preset to render them. I have a protein with all residues in different color and the other protein is rendered in a single color. My question is: this is a problem of Chimera or it is a problem with the protein file? Regards, Hatuey

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Aligning a protein into a membrane
by Francesco Pietra 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

Elaine: Relating to your instructions of last 19 Nov (I printed your mail, then unfortunately I deleted it) how to align a protein into a membrane (for both I have valid pdb and valid Amber parameters) I am probably made elusive mistakes at the stage of saving new pdbs. I aligned the protein into the membrane, then (with protein selected and membrane not active) I saved the new pdb, getting two files, "0" for the membrane and "1" for the protein. In Amber LEaP both these pdb file could be loaded and combined, however save top/crd failed because something was wrong with the membrane file. In fact, if the original pdb for the membrane is used, top/crd can be saved, though the protein is not accurately aligned. Clearly, my plan is to remove superimpositions among molecules for the "whole" obtained from Amber. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Chimera-users] ppt and movies
by Elaine Meng 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

Hi Markus, I can answer this one: > Why does the command movie record supersample 3 give virtually the > same file size then just movie record? Supersampling in Chimera initially saves a larger image for each frame but then samples it down to the requested size. This reduces "stairstepping" along edges without changing the pixel dimensions of the image that is ultimately saved for each frame. It increases calculation time rather than file size. Supersampling is also an option for saving individual images (File... Save Image) when you are not raytracing. You can see the difference provided by this feature independent of the movie-encoding process by comparing images saved with and without (1x1) supersampling. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Re: [Chimera-users] chimera help - surface exposed sides
by Elaine Meng 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

On Nov 22, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Thomas C. Marlovits wrote: > Hi Elaine, > I am trying to find an easy way to determine solvent > accessible/surface exposed side chains but also buried side chains > from atomic structures. > The idea would be to: > - display the surface > - have a command that would highlight (color) surface exposed side > chains/amino acids > Optional: color the identified aa by physical property, etc > - show all the identified amino acids on a primary sequence > - write out the amino acids into a text file. > > Would be great if you can let me know, how to do this most efficiently. > Thanks, > -Thomas > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Thomas C. Marlovits, PhD, M.A.S. > IMP-IMBA Research Center > - Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) > - Institute of Molecular Biotechnology, Austrian Academy of > Sciences (IMBA) > Hi Thomas, - First assign atoms (or residues) an attribute with values equal to their solvent-accessible surface areas (more details below). - Then you can use Select... By Attribute Value to select any subset of those based on some cutoff, for example all atoms with surface area > 0. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/ render.html#select The selection can be written as a list of atoms (or residues) with Actions... Write List, and the Sequence tool will show the current selection on the protein sequence (it would also be shown on a multiple sequence alignment associated with the structure, if you have such an alignment). http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/seqpanel.html - Of course you could also color the selection, but now that numerical attributes are assigned, you can map values to colors that will gradually shade from one to another with "Render by Attribute" or the command "rangecolor" http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/ render.html http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/rangecolor.html Now, back to how to get the attribute values assigned. Currently it is necessary to use the "Area/Volume from Web" tool (under Tools... Surface/Binding Analysis). It sends coordinates to the NIH StrucTools server. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/surfvol/ surfvol.html We are in the process of generating our own surface-calculation code that will provide these values within Chimera, but it is not done yet. The main inconvenience of this server approach is that you should first delete things like water and ligands if you don't want them lumped with the protein during the calculation. "Area/Volume from Web" has a few different options of what is calculated. You can use its MSMS method to calculate both molecular surface and solvent-accessible surface (this will generate two attributes) or the Gerstein method to calculate solvent-accessible surface. Atom attribute values will automatically be assigned by this tool. If you want them summed to residue attribute values, you must also use "Attribute Calculator". http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/calculator/ calculator.html There are examples of using Area/Volume from Web, Attribute Calculator, and Render by Attribute in the Attributes tutorial, part 2: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ attributes.html#part2 I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Coloring a surface according to distance from a selection
by Paul.Pillot＠ac-nice.fr 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Hello, I can color a surface according to the distance from a single point or a plane, but is it possible to do it according to the distance from a selection (eg an other chain or molecule) ? My aim is to show the contacts between an antibody and an antigen. I tried the tool intersurf for doing it, but the result is pretty crude (low definition of the surface compared to the usual surfaces available). Thanks in advance, Paul

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spaceball 5000
by Jean-Paul Armache 20 Nov '07

20 Nov '07

hello, i have a question regarding usage of a 3d manipulation device. i have a spaceball 5000 device, which i would like to use under linux (or windows). is there a way of using this device in chimera? best regards, Jean-Paul Armache AG Beckmann LMU Gene Center

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move a structure into another one
by Francesco Pietra 18 Nov '07

18 Nov '07

I have installed chimera-1.2470 on Debian Linux i386. Thank you. I want to insert a protein into a lipid membrane in a precise opientation, then save the protein pdb in this configuration. I used VMD in the last few days to this redard. I wonder whether I can stick to Chimera for this purpose too. I tried by selecting "protein", though it was difficult to proceed. Thanks francesco pietra ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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Puzzle with WAT
by Francesco Pietra 17 Nov '07

17 Nov '07

I am faced by a recurring puzzle with WAT (standard TIP3). In Amber9 xleap I loaded a pore protein_noH.pdb model getting top and crd files In both Chimera and VMD these showed that the WAT oxygen atom (natural, inside the pore) had been added of two hydrogens with intramolecular bonding between the two hydrogens. Otherwise, the geometry was correct for water. Correspondingly. in Chimera dockprep complained that one hydrogen of that WAT had incorrect valency, and refused to proceed. The protein.pdb created with ambpdb from such top and crd files showed the WAT correctly, without intramolecular H-H bonding. The geometry was exactly the same as for the above "wrong" WAT. With this protein.pdb, Chimera's dockprep was happy. That allowed docking with various (big) ligands, including amber re-score. I posted to dock-fans that the issue was solved, and how. Now I wanted to carry out Amber9 MD of that protein-ligand complex, inserting it into a lipid bilayer. I first tried the above protein.pdb alone into a membrane. A new venture for me. I posted separately a question how to create a hole around the protein. However, even when that is solved, I am faced again by the problem of viewing WAT into the pore as a triangle. Also, the many WAT mixed to the POPC of the membrane are also viewed as triangles. Actually, when that protein.pdb is loaded to xleap (as before leaprc.ff99SB and leaprc.gaff), the WAT into the pore is seen as a triangle. Thus, the protein.pdb, created with amdpdb is good for viewers and dockprep and docking, not back for LEaP. Although, it may seem as a loop, these are the facts (that so far I am unable to understand). I did not try yet if that allows MD, just because going on with such triangulated water seems unsafe. The protein.pdb ends as follows: TER ATOM 6885 O WAT 445 -0.036 0.094 -2.262 ATOM 6886 H1 WAT 445 0.921 0.094 -2.262 ATOM 6887 H2 WAT 445 -0.276 1.021 -2.262 TER END The membrane.pdb ends as follows: ATOM 50316 O WAT 3357 47.120 46.103 -26.069 1.00 0.00 W45 O ATOM 50317 H1 WAT 3357 46.727 45.819 -26.895 1.00 0.00 W45 H ATOM 50318 H2 WAT 3357 47.214 47.052 -26.153 1.00 0.00 W45 H END as a representative of the many WAT present. Thanks francesco pietra (the membrane was created with VMD and the file rearranged to be understood by Amber9) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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1.2470 production release available
by Eric Pettersen 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Hi all, The production release, version 1.2470, is out now. A list of changes from the previous production release (1.2422) can be found here: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/relnotes/1.2470.html I think that page is pretty easy to scan through, but for those of us who are really time-challenged, the important changes, I think, are: 1) Incorporation of what were previously "experimental features", such as morphing between volume data sets 2) Volume Viewer improvements: a) Multi-data set interface b) Distinct initial map colors c) Resampling of rotated maps d) Improved large-file handling e) Single-plane display f) Scriptability 3) Display of dendrograms in Multalign Viewer 4) Use of rotamer libraries in swapping residue side chains with the ability to evaluate possible swaps based on clashing, fit into density maps, or hydrogen-bond formation Mac users with the new Leopard OS should note that it seems that 3- button mouse emulation is off by default in Leopard's X11. So, if you have a one-button mouse and want to be able to scale/translate using the mouse + alt/command, do the following: 1) click on the X11 icon (it should show up in the dock when you start Chimera) 2) open the X11 menu from the menubar at the top of the screen 3) choose the Preferences... entry 4) in the resulting dialog choose the Input tab 5) enable the Emulate three button mouse option --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Ramachandran Plots
by Quinton Dowling 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Hi, I am interested in creating a ramachandran plot from an md trajectory. Particularly I would like to track the change in phi/psi angles over time for specific amino acids throughout the md in a fashion that is easily presentable. Is there a way to do this with Chimera? Or any way at all? Thanks a bunch. Quinton Dowling Research Computing Center The College of Idaho Caldwell ID 83605

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Re: [Chimera-users] Z-slice transparency
by Tom Goddard 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

I met Lu in San Diego and found out he was showing a volume slice and a second model which was also a volume using solid rendering style. The trouble is that Chimera cannot correctly display two transparent models -- at most one can be transparent. If two are transparent, the last one drawn (higher model id number) always appears on top of the other transparent models. This is a (serious) limitation of the Chimera graphics architecture. Technically Lu has the single plane set to be completely opaque, but all solid rendered volumes are rendered as if they have transparency even if the coloring is set for complete opacity. (The OpenGL z-buffer which records the depth of visible objects and prevents obscured surfaces from being shown is not used with "transparent" rendering). We tried using the TomoPlane Chimera extension from Karin Gross and Christoph Best and that draws truly opaque volume planes, but it is much slower. Tom Lu wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I tried everything that you mentioned, including adding multiple > points to the histogram, but I can still see stuff through the > Z-slice. Anyway, I noticed that you're going to be at the Scripps EM > workshop next week. If you have time at the workshop, I'd be happy to > show you the type of Amira movie that we'd ultimately like to make > using Chimera. > > Cheers, > -Lu

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mutation of residue
by hjoseph＠brandeis.edu 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

Hi everyone, I want to model my mutated residue into crystal structure and see its interactions. If anyone knows and easy way of doing it in Chimera please let me know. Thanks everyone, Helen Josephine

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how to make a bond
by dominique matt 15 Nov '07

15 Nov '07

I want to draw a bond between two atoms which appear linked by a dotted line. This is often the case when one atom is a metal. How can I draw the bond ? Thank you for your help Kind regards Dominique MATT Strasbourg

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Ribbackbone spec?
by Jean Didier Pie Marechal 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

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Z-slice transparency
by Lu 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Dear Chimera Crew, Is there a way to adjust the transparency of a Z-slice using the Volume Viewer's "planes" feature? Right now, it looks like the Z-slice has transparency and lets you see the isosurfaces/segmentations below it. We would like to turn off the Z-slice transparency so that it blocks everything that is behind it. Such a feature would allow us to use Chimera to make a movie that we've been using Amira for, i.e., a movie in which the isosurface (or segmentation) is "revealed" as the map's Z-slice drops down. If the effect that I'm describing isn't clear, I'd be happy to forward a link to such a movie. Thanks! -Lu -- Lu Gan Postdoc, Jensen Lab Caltech Broad Center, MC 114-96 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 Tel: 626-395-8848 Fax: 626-395-5730

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Computer requirements
by Sandra Eriksson 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi! I'm planning to buy a computer, and am checking on the requirements of my favourite programs. But, searching the Chimera home page, I found little information on the hardware neccessary to make the program run really smoothly. If you have suggestions for RAM, processor and graphics etc, I would be very grateful. Best, /Sandra

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Question about the dotted bond
by Hyunmi Sun 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Dear Whom it may concern Hello, I am currently using Chimera to access a pdb file. When I fetch the pdb file, one of the bonds between two ligands is illustrated as a dotted line in the wire representation. Why is this so? Thanks for the help! Sincerely, Hyunmi Sun

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Output of volume rotation angles and shifts in Chimera
by Duncan Sousa 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi, I use Chimera to manually align 3D electron microscopy structures. I'm hoping someone knows how to output the angles and shifts of rotated and shifted volumes. Since one can restore sessions, the angles and shifts must be saved somewhere right? Thanks, Duncan __________________________________ Duncan Sousa, Ph. D. Department Physiology & Biophysics Boston University School of Medicine 715 Albany Street Boston, MA 02118

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Calculating the center of mass of a ligand
by Jean-Didier Maréchal 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi everyone, I have another question: what would be the easiest way to calculate the center of mass of a given set of atoms? In particular, is there a python module that already has this function implemented? I am interested in particular to find the center of mass of a ligand bound to a protein. Thanks a lot, JD

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IDLE for listing selected residues.
by Jean-Didier Maréchal 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hi everyone, I'd like to use chimera to generate the list of the oxygen atoms of the water molecules located at less than 5.0 A of a ligand. Selecting the water molecules have been the easiest part... select :HOH & :301.a zr < 5.0 with :301.a my ligand. Then in the IDLE, I tried a series of alternative to generate the list. I use the different tips that were posted in the digest recently and arrived to this: for i in range(1,len(chimera.selection.currentResidues()): print chimera.selection.currentResidues()[i] Right, this gives me the list of residues, unfortunately, that would be a LOOOT better for me is to have the Serial number of the oxygen atoms... currentSerialNum and currentSerialNumber do not see to be a correct selection type. If there is any way that can do this? Thanks a lot JD On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 12:00 -0800, chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu wrote: > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Z-slice transparency (Tom Goddard) > 2. production release candidate (Eric Pettersen) > 3. pipes and planks (Dougherty, Matthew T.) > 4. Re: pipes and planks (Eric Pettersen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:47:12 -0800 > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Z-slice transparency > To: Lu <lugan(a)caltech.edu>, "'Chimera BB'" > <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <4734C750.5020803(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Lu, > > I think I know why the volume planes are slightly transparent for > you. You are using Chimera version 1.2422 and I changed the volume > solid rendering transparency behavior in the later Chimera version > 1.2434 (August 3, 2007). You can either get the most recent Chimera > from the daily builds web page: > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/alpha-downloads.html > > Or in older Chimera versions use volume menu entry Features / Brightness > and Transparency and change transparency to 0. You'll have to type this > in the entry field and press return because the slider does not go all > the way down to zero. This transparency value modulates the > transparencies given by the height of the brightness / transparency > yellow curve on the histogram. Newer Chimera changed the modulation > behavior to keep completely opaque voxels still completely opaque while > older Chimera did not. > > Tom > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:52:29 -0800 > From: Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] production release candidate > To: chimera BB <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <7B31B33A-569C-4808-AD94-EBCD134DEC26(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > We have put a production release candidate up for download (http:// > www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html) It would help us out if > people would try it out and see if it all works okay. Major changes > from the 1.2422 release include: incorporation of what were > previously "experimental features", such as morphing between volume > data sets; major revamp of the Volume Viewer interface; display of > dendrograms in Multalign Viewer; use of rotamer libraries in swapping > residue side chains and the ability evaluate possible swaps based on > clashing, fit into density maps, or hydrogen-bond formation. A more > exhaustive list of features is here: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ > docs/relnotes/snapshot.html > > --Eric > > > Eric Pettersen > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu > >

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RMSD
by Julien Orts 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Dear all, First thanks a lot for the great software you provide us!!! I would like to compare structures after an MD simulation. There is a function called match which can be used to calculate the RMSD between selected atoms. The protocol is the following; I select atoms within 5 Angstrom to a reference atom in the structure 1: 300 atoms selected. I do the same for the structure 2 (reference atom is the same): 311 atoms selected The problem is then I can not use the match function since the atom number is different. I selected then residues (the one which are 5A away from the reference atom) instead of atoms but it is a bit fastidious plus it is not the same as a "zone selection" (some atoms are coming even if they are at 5.6A) I print out (from a pdb) the number of desired proton but the command sel @123 do not work because atom selection is done by name and not by number (if it is really the case then it would be nice to have this possibility as well ;-) The last solution would be really easy and quick to do if the selection on atoms can also be done by number. Is there any way to solve this? I need to use all the atoms, so the matchMaker give me an RMSD but it does not use all of the atoms in the calculation of the RMSD. Basically I need the intersection of the two sets (two structures) of selected atoms. In reality I have much more than 2 structures so the protocol should also be scriptable, but I guess everything is scriptable in Chimera (right?) thank in advance many greetings Julien

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pipes and planks
by Dougherty, Matthew T. 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

I have about 80 pdb datasets, each corresponding to a single helix. I know I can do one at a time using the gui. What is the method for scripting? thanks, Matt Matthew Dougherty 713-433-3849 National Center for Macromolecular Imaging Baylor College of Medicine/Houston Texas USA ========================================================================= =========================================================================

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production release candidate
by Eric Pettersen 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi all, We have put a production release candidate up for download (http:// www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html) It would help us out if people would try it out and see if it all works okay. Major changes from the 1.2422 release include: incorporation of what were previously "experimental features", such as morphing between volume data sets; major revamp of the Volume Viewer interface; display of dendrograms in Multalign Viewer; use of rotamer libraries in swapping residue side chains and the ability evaluate possible swaps based on clashing, fit into density maps, or hydrogen-bond formation. A more exhaustive list of features is here: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ docs/relnotes/snapshot.html --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Re: [Chimera-users] Z-slice transparency
by Tom Goddard 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hi Lu, I think I know why the volume planes are slightly transparent for you. You are using Chimera version 1.2422 and I changed the volume solid rendering transparency behavior in the later Chimera version 1.2434 (August 3, 2007). You can either get the most recent Chimera from the daily builds web page: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/alpha-downloads.html Or in older Chimera versions use volume menu entry Features / Brightness and Transparency and change transparency to 0. You'll have to type this in the entry field and press return because the slider does not go all the way down to zero. This transparency value modulates the transparencies given by the height of the brightness / transparency yellow curve on the histogram. Newer Chimera changed the modulation behavior to keep completely opaque voxels still completely opaque while older Chimera did not. Tom

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(no subject)
by Ryan 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

I am trying to import Chimera in a python script but get the following error message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./chimera_import.py", line 16, in <module> import chimera File "/usr/local/chimera/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 15, in <module> from _chimera import * ImportError: /usr/local/chimera/lib/_chimera.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Does anyone know what the problem is here? I can run Chimera without a problem in the GUI -- so i would assume that means the chimera class is being properly loaded in that instance. I have the 32 bit Linux version installed on my AMD64 system running SUSE. Thanks for your help, ryan

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Fe in chimera antechamber
by snoze pa 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Hi, I am new in this mailing list but found chimera more useful than any other software. I was building a protein that contain HEME. When I was calculating the charge using chimera interface, then it is asking for HEM[FE] and HEM[nonFE] formal charge. I know chimera is using MMTK and AMBER forcefield. If I will give the default value then it is assigning +2 charge to Fe, which is not a match based on AMBER forcefield. Meanwhile I try to change the Formal charge manually, but still it gives the same +2 for Fe. Anybody used chimera to prepare a protein having heme for dock or geometry build. My another question is: Is it possible in chimera to merge nonpolar hydrogen charges on the heavy atoms, the technique used in autodock. I will highly appreciate your help and suggestions in this matter. thanks in advance. s

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Movies
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Hi, I've bee using the Movie recorder tool and noticed that the resulting movie seems in high speed motion. I recorded the movie while running the rock command. Settings: Output: AVI-MSPE-4v2 size: 760x482. constant bit rate 6000 (also tried 2000) Frames per second 33 (also tried 25). Any suggestions to get a movie playing at the same speed as when running the commands in chimera. Thanks Hernando

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Angles
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

Hi, I have a couple of questions: Is there a simple way to determine the angle between any of the three axes, X,Y or Z and the line connecting two selected atoms?. I know you can use the Angles/Torsions tools to determine the angle formed between 3 sets of atoms, but I wonder if you could use that tool, or some other, to report the angle of two atoms with the axes?. Is it possible to draw a box with the axes around a structure as it can be done with a volume ?. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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mac OS / Leopard
by William Jeffrey Triffo 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

anyone know if upgrading OS X to Leopard might effect Chimera (or have reason to think it might)? -Jeff

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getting a density map for a protein
by Greg Pintilie 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

Some time ago when the 'Fit model into Map' feature was introduced there was a note that a tool to build a density map from a protein might be released at a later date. I haven't seen any evidence of this yet, has it been done? Otherwise, any pointers to other tools that do this? Thanks, Greg Pintilie

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera AddH questions
by Eric Pettersen 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Diep Quang Vinh wrote: > Dear Eric, > > Could you please do me an other favor? Could you please tell me how > to do your instructions automatic by command line? Since I will > deal with a hundreds of files like those and I have to add Hydrogen > atom to these file. Hi Vinh, There is no command-line equivalent for Build Structure, so you have to resort to Python here. Here's the Python code to change the currently selected atom the same way you did by hand: from BuildStructure import changeAtom from chimera import selection, Element changeAtom(selection.currentAtoms()[0], Element("C"), 3, 3, name="C") If you put the above into a script named addCH.py, then you can use these commands to add the hydrogen: sel :2.A@C open C:\<wherever you put the script>\addCH.py You might want to use the "alias" command for the above so you don't have to type so much. --Eric > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Pettersen" > <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > To: "Diep Quang Vinh" <vdiep(a)purdue.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: Chimera AddH questions > > >> You're welcome. Glad I could help. >> >> --Eric >> >> On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Diep Quang Vinh wrote: >> >>> Dear Eric, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your help. It works right now. I >>> appriciate that so much. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Vinh >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Pettersen" >>> <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> To: <vdiep(a)purdue.edu> >>> Cc: "chimera BB" <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:32 PM >>> Subject: Chimera AddH questions >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 31, 2007, at 8:41 AM, chimera-bugs(a)cgl.ucsf.edu wrote: >>>> >>>>> The following bug report has been submitted: >>>>> Submitter Name: Vinh >>>>> Submitter Email: vdiep >>>>> Platform: windows >>>>> Chimera Version: 1 >>>>> Description >>>>> Hello, I would like to ask you some questions concern about >>>>> addh command. >>>>> >>>>> 1. I had an molecule which has 2-residues and one of them has >>>>> an termini -CO. This molecule is in fact was cut from a >>>>> bigger molecule and the original C have an bond with one H >>>>> atom. Now Can I by using addh command, recover the original >>>>> configuration? I mean there is only one Hydrogen added to >>>>> this Carbon. Since when I did it, chimera gave the an extra >>>>> Oxigen and not an Hydrogen. >>>> >>>> When Chimera looks at a peptide chain with an incomplete C >>>> terminus, it tries to deduce (by looking at SEQRES records) >>>> whether that residue is really the C terminus or is instead >>>> simply the last residue in a chain that is partially missing. >>>> I'm guessing that your structure file didn't have any SEQRES >>>> records, so Chimera guessed that the ending amino acid was >>>> really the C terminus and therefore made the C-O moiety into a >>>> carboxylate. >>>> >>>> If all you want to do is add a single hydrogen to that carbon, >>>> you should use the Build Structure tool to do that. Here's how: >>>> >>>> control-double click on the carbon >>>> choose "Modify Atom" from the menu that pops up >>>> In the Build Structure dialog that comes up, change the >>>> "Geometry" to "planar" and the "Name" back to "C" >>>> click on the "Change" button -- your hydrogen will be added >>>> >>>>> I try to add the hydrogen for example: >>>>> first : addh >>>>> then : addh spec :2.A@C >>>>> but both of them give me the same answer and on top of that it >>>>> adds one more H on the other nearby Nitrogen. >>>> >>>> The smallest thing addh can add hydrogens to is an entire >>>> model. If you specify something smaller, the entire model >>>> still gets protonated. This limitation is mentioned in the >>>> addh documentation. >>>> >>>> --Eric >>>> >>>> Eric Pettersen >>>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>>> pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>>> >>> >> >

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Distances problem
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

Hi, I came across the following problem: When using the tool Tools -> Structure Analysis -> Distances to measure the distance between two atoms, a bug report window appears and all the chimera windows freeze. The error seems to happen when chimera is trying to draw the line between the atoms. The calculated distance appear in the distances window. I can't get the error message as all the windows are frozen. It says something about tcl ??? Any suggestions?. Thanks Hernando System Vaio PCG K37 laptop (Pentium 4 3.2 GHz, 1Gb RAM) running windows XP Home edition service pack 2 Graphics. ATI Radeon IGP 345M UCSF Chimera 2.4222 2007/06/21

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chimera python shell
by Ondrej Marsalek 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

hi, i wanted to ask whether there are any plans to change the idle python shell in chimera for something else. i would be interested in something with completion and editable history, ideally ipython (http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/) i tried to add ipython to the python embedded in chimera but did not succeed. i will be grateful for any information or personal experience with this. regards, ondrej marsalek

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Chimera AddH questions
by Eric Pettersen 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

On Oct 31, 2007, at 8:41 AM, chimera-bugs(a)cgl.ucsf.edu wrote: > The following bug report has been submitted: > Submitter Name: Vinh > Submitter Email: vdiep > Platform: windows > Chimera Version: 1 > Description > Hello, I would like to ask you some questions concern about addh > command. > > 1. I had an molecule which has 2-residues and one of them has an > termini -CO. This molecule is in fact was cut from a bigger > molecule and the original C have an bond with one H atom. Now Can I > by using addh command, recover the original configuration? I mean > there is only one Hydrogen added to this Carbon. Since when I did > it, chimera gave the an extra Oxigen and not an Hydrogen. When Chimera looks at a peptide chain with an incomplete C terminus, it tries to deduce (by looking at SEQRES records) whether that residue is really the C terminus or is instead simply the last residue in a chain that is partially missing. I'm guessing that your structure file didn't have any SEQRES records, so Chimera guessed that the ending amino acid was really the C terminus and therefore made the C-O moiety into a carboxylate. If all you want to do is add a single hydrogen to that carbon, you should use the Build Structure tool to do that. Here's how: control-double click on the carbon choose "Modify Atom" from the menu that pops up In the Build Structure dialog that comes up, change the "Geometry" to "planar" and the "Name" back to "C" click on the "Change" button -- your hydrogen will be added > I try to add the hydrogen for example: > first : addh > then : addh spec :2.A@C > but both of them give me the same answer and on top of that it adds > one more H on the other nearby Nitrogen. The smallest thing addh can add hydrogens to is an entire model. If you specify something smaller, the entire model still gets protonated. This limitation is mentioned in the addh documentation. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Re: [Chimera-users] Selector Construction Panel
by Eric Pettersen 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Hi Virginia, The Selector Construction panel could probably stand some interface improvements for sure. "Existing Selection" has nothing to do with what's selected in the Chimera window as you construct the selector. "Existing Selection" grabs whatever is selected in the Chimera window when the selector is used (either by choosing the selector from Chimera's Select menu, of invoking it from the Select region of the construction panel) -- so it can be a different selection every time it is used. Anyway, you can ignore that because it doesn't really help you with your problem. There is no easy way to select all lysines within 8 angstroms of another lysine in Chimera, so you were on the right track with trying to construct a selector, but it requires actually putting some custom Python code in your selector since you need to loop over lysine residues individually in order to get what you want. So open the Selector Construction panel, pick "Show workbench selector contents" in the Panels menu, and paste in: from chimera import specifier sel.merge(selection.REPLACE, specifier.evalSpec(":LYS")) nearRes = [] sel2 = selection.ItemizedSelection() for r in sel.residues(): sel2.clear() sel2.add(r) sel2.merge(selection.REPLACE, specifier.zone(sel2, specifier.ATOM, None, 8.0, models)) selRes = [sr for sr in sel2.residues() if sr.type == "LYS"] selRes.remove(r) nearRes.extend(selRes) sel.clear() sel.add(nearRes) Since the remailer for this list may break long lines, I've also attached the above as a file. If you are using the X11 version of Chimera for the Mac, pasting in the text is tricky -- if you're using that let me know and I can send instructions about how to get the pasting to work. --Eric On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Virginia Pett wrote: > Eric, > Yes, my ultimate goal is more complicated than the examples that I > gave. I would like to find all the Lys residues in the structure > that are less than 8 Å apart from each other. After several hours > of frustration with the Selector Construction Panel, I decided to > try a simpler question in order to test whether I was using the > Workbench correctly and to test whether any information was being > saved. > > I may not have understood your reply correctly. Here is what I > tried just now. I selected all atoms NZ (@NZ). THEN I invoked the > Selector Construction Panel. (In my previous experiments, the > Construction Panel had been invoked before I made the selection in > the main window.) Then I proceeded as before, in the Selector > Construction Panel: Workbench, Load from current. The Status panel > shows workbench content: Existing Selection. Then Workbench, > Save, as All NZ atoms, for example. However, as before, when I go > back to the main window, Select, Clear Selection and then Select > All NZ atoms, there is nothing selected. > > Virginia > > > > > On 10/25/07 7:56 PM, "Eric Pettersen" <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > >> Hi Virginia, >> Perhaps you could describe what your ultimate goal here is -- >> there may be an easier way to achieve it than by constructing a >> custom selector. >> But in regards to your problem, for the purposes of selector >> construction the "Existing Selection" isn't what is selected at >> that instant -- it's what's selected at the time the selector is >> invoked from Chimera's Select menu. This allows you to build >> selectors that intersect the peptide backbone with the current >> selection for example. >> If you want to make a selector that simply holds what's currently >> selected, use the Name Selection... entry in Chimera's Select >> menu. That creates a selector under Named Selections in the >> Select menu, and will also be remembered in saved sessions. >> >> --Eric >> >> >> Eric Pettersen >> >> >> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >> >> >> pett(a)cgl.ucsfedu >> >> >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >> >> >> >> On Oct 25, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Virginia Pett wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> There is a difficulty with the Selector Construction Panel. I >>> make a selection in the main window, such as chain A or atom >>> @NZ. The Inspect Selection panel shows that I have made a >>> selection. Then in the Selector Construction Panel: Workbench, >>> Load from current. The Status panel shows workbench content: >>> Existing Selection. Then Workbench, Save, as chain A, for >>> example. However, when I go back to the main window, Select, >>> Clear Selection and then Select, chain A, there is nothing selected. >>> >>> I downloaded the latest version of Chimera for Mac OS X a few >>> days ago (chimera-1.2422-osx_x11.dmg). I’m running it on a >>> PowerBook G4 with Mac OS X (10.4.10). >>> Virginia >>> _____________________________________________________ >>> >>> Virginia B. Pett >>> Professor of Chemistry >>> Department of Chemistry, The College of Wooster >>> 943 College Mall, Wooster, OH 44691 >>> Telephone: 330-263-2114 >>> Fax: 330-263-2386 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://wwwcgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >> >> > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Virginia B. Pett > Professor of Chemistry > Department of Chemistry, The College of Wooster > 943 College Mall, Wooster, OH 44691 > Telephone: 330-263-2114 > Fax: 330-263-2386 >

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request regarding atomspec balloon
by Jean Didier Pie Marechal 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

Hi Everyone, long time no...written... I observed that the "show atomspec balloon" does appear when I point an atom with the cursor. I have the preferences well set but I can't have it working. I use the last build (25 october) and I work on windows XP. Cheers, JD Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Professor Lector Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es

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Cartoon: Helix appearance
by kroneml＠hotmail.de 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

Hello, I observed that Chimera (like almost all other protein viewers) aligns the ribbon of a helix in a way that the ribbon is parallel in every twist (the ribbon virtually forms a cylinder). My question is: is this correct, strictly speaking? I thought that the ribbon should lie in the plane defined by two successive C-alpha atoms and the associated O atom? (Mike Carson defines it that way in his "Ribbons", following the instructions of Richardson's "The anatomy and taxonomy of protein structure"). If you draw it that way, the ribbon forming the helix will tilt slightly outwards. Is the alignment of the helix ribbon in Chimera done simply because it looks better this way or is there another reason? I did some research on this topic via google and even asked a certified biologist (scientific assistant), but the internet had not much to say about it and the biologist only told me that cartoon drawings don't have to be very accurate, since they are only a tool to get a general idea of the protein's structure. Best regards, Michael Krone

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Selector Construction Panel
by Virginia Pett 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

Hello, There is a difficulty with the Selector Construction Panel. I make a selection in the main window, such as chain A or atom @NZ. The Inspect Selection panel shows that I have made a selection. Then in the Selector Construction Panel: Workbench, Load from current. The Status panel shows workbench content: Existing Selection. Then Workbench, Save, as chain A, for example. However, when I go back to the main window, Select, Clear Selection and then Select, chain A, there is nothing selected. I downloaded the latest version of Chimera for Mac OS X a few days ago (chimera-1.2422-osx_x11.dmg). I¹m running it on a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS X (10.4.10). Virginia _____________________________________________________ Virginia B. Pett Professor of Chemistry Department of Chemistry, The College of Wooster 943 College Mall, Wooster, OH 44691 Telephone: 330-263-2114 Fax: 330-263-2386

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