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Showing data set axes
by Thomas Goddard 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Hi Jeff, Chimera supports a format for making geometric objects called BILD described in the Chimera manual: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/bild.html Below is a 6 line BILD file that when opened in Chimera shows cylindrical arrows for the X (red), (green), and Z (blue) axes in the style of the program VMD. I made the axes 20 units long, with radius 1 and cone shaped tip with a radius of 2. Tom ----- File axes.bld: .color 1 0 0 .arrow 0 0 0 20 0 0 1 2 .color 0 1 0 .arrow 0 0 0 0 20 0 1 2 .color 0 0 1 .arrow 0 0 0 0 0 20 1 2 > From: Jeff > To: "'Thomas Goddard'" <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: RE: Chimera length units > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:30:29 -0800 > > i figured some of that but is good to hear it from the source. > > one last question - if i want to make an origin with axes (like a CAD > program might have) so i don't get lost after rotating my volumes a jillion > times and have to click 'orient', is there a way for me to make a > marker-based model (two markers for each axis) and put it slightly > off-origin (like in the -,-,- octant) so that i have a visual on my axes as > i rotate the scene? > > as in, is there a simple way for me to hand-write a marker model that i can > just load and fix to the scene? > > thanks, > > -jeff

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X11 updated for Mac OS X, stereo now?
by David Belnap 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Apple has released an update for X11 with the following comment: This update addresses several issues in the X11 for Mac OS X package, enabling it to better handle: - GLX stereo visuals - offscreen rendering to GLX Pbuffers and Pixmaps I downloaded it and tried to run Chimera (beta version 1 build 2199 2006/01/24) in stereo. It didn't work. Does the X11 update have the stereo-in-a-window capability now that Chimera needs? Is there a newer version of Chimera that will run in stereo on the Mac? David ============================================ David M. Belnap Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Brigham Young University Provo, Utah 84602 USA Phone: 801-422-9163 FAX: 801-422-0153 David_Belnap(a)byu.edu ============================================

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera length units
by Thomas Goddard 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Hi Jeff, Chimera clipping and other tools use xyz coordinates and do not use voxel or pixel measures. The volume dialog region bounds panel and the volume dialog step size are exceptions where voxel index positions are used. The notion of a voxel is only relevant to density maps, not atomic models and clippping applies to all kinds of data, not just maps. Screen pixels are a 2 dimensional concept so it is an awkward measure to use especially with perspective 3-d viewing for measuring lengths. Tom > From: Jeff > To: "'Thomas Goddard'" <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: RE: Chimera length units > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:30:30 -0800 > > does this mean that I can't refer to a given coordinate by pixel/voxel > location without resetting the voxel size to '1 1 1' (which I might not want > to do - does chimera not keep the mrc file (or other voxel data) inside of a > similar kind of array) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Goddard [mailto:goddard@cgl.ucsf.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:46 PM > > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > Subject: Chimera length units > > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > Chimera does not know what units you are using, the data > > coordinates are just numbers as far as it is concerned. If > > you open a PDB atomic model the coordinates are always > > Angstroms. If you open a density map, say an MRC file, the > > header may include the voxel size. That value could be in > > Angstroms or nanometers. Often maps don't have the true > > voxel size in the header, often they say it is 1. In such > > cases you can use the Chimera volume dialog menu entry > > "Features / Origin and Scale" to set the voxel size in > > Angstroms or nanometers so that the map can be aligned with > > other models or maps. If you open a PDB model in Angstroms > > and a map with the scale set in nanometers then the map will > > look 10 times smaller than it should be relative to the model. > > > > Tom

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Chimera length units
by Thomas Goddard 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Hi Jeff, Chimera does not know what units you are using, the data coordinates are just numbers as far as it is concerned. If you open a PDB atomic model the coordinates are always Angstroms. If you open a density map, say an MRC file, the header may include the voxel size. That value could be in Angstroms or nanometers. Often maps don't have the true voxel size in the header, often they say it is 1. In such cases you can use the Chimera volume dialog menu entry "Features / Origin and Scale" to set the voxel size in Angstroms or nanometers so that the map can be aligned with other models or maps. If you open a PDB model in Angstroms and a map with the scale set in nanometers then the map will look 10 times smaller than it should be relative to the model. Tom > From: Jeff > To: "'Thomas Goddard'" <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:26:11 -0800 > > thanks Tom, > > sorry for a goofy question, but how do I know what units chimera is using > (for measuring distances, having the output is nice in Angstroms, but > sometimes (like with orienting a clipping plane) using unitless/pixels is > more handy for displacements/etc) > > thanks, > > -jeff

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Per-model clipping plane command
by Thomas Goddard 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Hi Jeff, There isn't yet a Chimera command for per-model clipping. Below is some Python code that can do it. Open a density map and then open this Python code in Chimera to clip it. Some more code can make it loop through different depths. There is some trickiness to making it update the graphics window in such a loop. Ask for details if you want that. Tom > From: Jeff > To: <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: per-model clipping plane question (or similar) > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:54:26 -0800 > > hi Tom, > > was wondering if I can control the per-model clipping plane > orientation/parameters/etc via command line or shortcuts - > > would like to be able to methodically push a clipping plane in 'slab mode' > through my model to compare it w/ other 2D/projection tools I use - I know I > can click 'orient' on the model and it will orient to a default > position/rotation (and I can click orient on the per-model clipping plane > and therefore register them both), but is there then a way that I can > specify (say, along one axis, like z) where the slab/clipping plane is > positioned, like in pixels? > > can I control the angular position of the clipping plane via command line, > too? > > thanks, > > Jeff ----- Python code clip.py. # ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Python function to control per-model clipping (like menu entry # Tools / Depiction / Per-Model Clipping). The clip plane rotates with # the model (PDB structure, density map, ...). # # Parameters: # model is a Chimera Model # origin is (x,y,z) of point on clip plane. # normal is (nx,ny,nz) pointing towards clipped (invisible) half of plane. # slab_thickness is in data length units (usually Angstroms). # # Origin and normal are relative to the data coordinate system, for example, # the x,y,z coordinates of a PDB atoms or axes of a density map. The clip # def set_clipping(model, origin, normal, slab_thickness = None): p = model.clipPlane from chimera import Point, Vector p.origin = Point(*origin) p.normal = Vector(*normal) model.clipPlane = p model.useClipPlane = True if slab_thickness == None: model.useClipThickness = False else: model.clipThickness = slab_thickness model.useClipThickness = True # ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Cap holes left when clipping a surface. Controls graphical interface # shown by menu entry Tools / Depiction / Surface Capping. # # Parameters: # cap_color is (r,g,b) or (r,g,b,a) where values in range 0-1 # cap_mesh is True or False for mesh or solid cap appearance # cap_subdivision of 2 makes cap mesh twice as fine for detailed coloring. # cap_offset in data length units (usually Angstroms) for large models # sometimes needs to be larger to avoid cap itself being clipped due to # finite floating point precision in OpenGL. # def show_surface_caps(show, cap_color = None, cap_mesh = False, cap_subdivision = 1, cap_offset = 0.001): from SurfaceCap.gui import capper_dialog d = capper_dialog(create = True) d.Close() use_color = (cap_color != None) if use_color: d.use_cap_color.set(use_color) d.cap_color.showColor(cap_color) if cap_mesh: d.cap_style.set('mesh') else: d.cap_style.set('solid') d.subdivision_factor.set(cap_subdivision) d.cap_offset.set(cap_offset) d.show_caps.set(show) # ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Example using set_clipping(). # from chimera import openModels mlist = openModels.list() m = mlist[0] set_clipping(m, (.5,0,1), (0,1,1), 8) show_surface_caps(True, (1,0,0), True) # Red mesh caps

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Chimera under FreeBSD
by Devon Ryan 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

Has anyone had success getting chimera to run under FreeBSD? I can get the linux version to start (under the linuxulator), but it crashes after ~20 seconds when the bundled version of python core dumps. I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an intel architecture. Thanks -- Devon Ryan | dpryan(a)sg.uchicago.edu Neuro Grad Student, Ptacek Lab | dpryan(a)phy.ucsf.edu University of Chicago '02 | dpryan(a)alumni.uchicago.edu www.dpryan.com | dpryan(a)dpryan.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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question regarding chimera 1.2304-wim32.exe
by AJ Campbell 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

I have tried installing Chimera several times on my Windows machine but keep receiving an error message saying "Outline highlight not supported by hardware", any advice would be appreciated. ~ Arthur

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atom name balloons
by Greg Pintilie 31 Oct '06

31 Oct '06

I was wondering why in the new release of Chimera ballons no longer pop up when the mouse is placed over an atom and is left there... is this an option that has to be set somewhere? I found it extremely usefull and now am missing it... Greg

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problems with starting Chimera
by Mareike Goeritz 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Hello, I'm interested in using Chimera, but after downloading and installing the software I'm unable to launch the program. I always get the following error message: "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library: Assertion failed! Program: C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\pythonw.exe File: togl.c Line: 2994 Expression: res==TRUE For information on how your program can cause an assertion failure, see the Visual C++ documentation on asserts (Press Retry to debug the application - JIT must be enabled)" I'm not familiar with C++, so I don't know what to do. Does anybody know what might be missing or what's the problem? Thank you for your help!! Mareike -- ******************************** Dr. Mareike Goeritz Department of Chemistry, MC 164-30 California Institute of Technology 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 (626) 395-6032 Tel (626) 683-8753 Fax goeritz(a)caltech.edu ********************************

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Chimera, 3dsmax, blender
by Jonathan Hilmer 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Lydia, It's been years since I've had access to a 3dsmax license, so I can't really make good comparisons between it and Blender. Fundamentally, they serve the same role, so I expect you would find using them similar, especially compared to PyMOL, Chimera, etc. Before getting into the benefits, you should be aware that compared to any software truly designed for chemical modeling, Blender has some serious drawbacks. There is no pre-existing set of structural tools that is standard for chemistry modeling software: if you want ribbons, you have to write a procedure that will generate them. I'm assuming you're already familiar with this, though, since you're using 3dsmax. As another sizeable negative, CSG in Blender is still somewhat flaky. I seem to remember having far fewer problems in 3d studio, even back around ~R5 or 6. On the benefit side, Blender's plugin/scripting system is extremely free of restrictions. The scripting system is pure Python, and many Python "plugins" are available. The true plugins are done in C, but are currently restricted to some post-processing features. You could also use the scripting system to access C libraries. These features really help to make up for the lack of built-in chemistry-centered tools. The other reason why you might prefer Blender over 3dsmax is that the scripting and plugin system is very much like Chimera, so if you're using both it's only one system to learn. Jonathan > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:47:06 -0800 > From: "Lydia Jablonski" <lydka(a)uoregon.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] Exporting VRML, Using Blender > > Jonathan and Greg- > > Thank you for your suggestions. I wanted to at least try them before I responded. > > Exporting VRML: I did try the export to VRML from version 1.2304 and it is good to know that it works for ribbons now. Unfortunately, the imported VRML meshes don't seem to respond to the mesh smoothing in 3ds max. With the .pdb --> .pov --> .3ds --> .max workflow I'm able to get a completely smooth surface on the ribbon. With the imported .wrl (VRML) I am able to see the triangulation on the surface, especially with shiny materials. Increasing the subdivision quality in Chimera makes these triangles smaller, but they are still visible. > > Blender: Can you explain more the advantages of Blender for rendering/animating molecular models? I've been using 3ds max for quite a while (since the DOS days) so I feel very comfortable with it. But the need to work with molecular models is new so I'm still bumping around trying to figure out what all the possibilities are. If another 3D animation program would work better with exported .pdb files I'd be willing to pick it up. > > Any more pointers would be much appreciated. > > -Lydia

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Toolbar and Favorite on PC
by jean-francois menetret 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Hello all, when running chimera on my PC (windows XP), my toolbar stopped being displayed. If I uninstall and reinstall chimera, my toolbar comes back until the next reboot. How can I fix that ? Is there to restore my preferences after launching chimera? Regards Jean-Francois Jean-Fran�ois M�n�tret, PhD Boston University School of Medicine Physiology and Biophysics Department 700 Albany Street W315 Boston, MA 02118 Email: menetret(a)bu.edu Mailing address: 715 Albany Street

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 19
by Jonathan Hilmer 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Although this does not relate to your question on licensing, is there any particular reason you're using such a complicated workflow? Chimera can be used to generate basic geometry (sphere/cylinder) from PDB files via povray, but so could any import system you have for the 3D modeling software. You would also lose the benefit of chemistry-centered structure for manipulation or selection: chains, residues, etc. I've been using Blender to handle complicated chemical models for a while now, and it wasn't that difficult to implement the import of various data types. With BioPython pdb files become trivial, and volumetric data sets are (very) difficult but possible. Jonathan > Hello- > > Do any of you have an idea of how much a single commercial license for Chimera would cost? > > I'm a 3D artist/animator/biology student that works at in the art dept. of a biotech company. I'm interested in the exporting .pdb files to .pov, then converting to .3ds to import to 3ds max. > > Thanks, > > Lydia Jablonski

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changing center of rotation
by Jonathan Hilmer 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Although I haven't used EMAnimator, you can set the center of rotation within Chimera using the Set Pivot action: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/menu.html#actpivot There's also Tools/Movement/Rotation, and lastly, you can edit structures to insert artificial points at extreme high/low XYZ locations, which will in effect manually set the center used via the 'center of models' option. I wouldn't recommend the last option unless you have a good reason to do so, but it does work. Jonathan > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:52:42 -0800 (PST) > From: wendy ochoa <wencryo(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Chimera-users] rotating molecules for movies > To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <20061030195242.57847.qmail(a)web37306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Can anybody tell me how to use EMANIMATOR to make a movie of a molecule rotating. If I use the spin option, it uses the axis (0 1 0) but my molecule is not center at 0 0 0. Is there a way to fix the rotation center to the center of the molecule, or to the center of the view? > Thanks > > > >

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Re: [Chimera-users] viewing grid density
by Thomas Goddard 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Bala reports that the problem was in an Amber input file. > From: "bala" <bala(a)igib.res.in> > To: "Thomas Goddard" <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: RE: [Chimera-users] viewing grid density > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:59:38 +0530 > > Hello Thomas and Elaine, > > Thank you for your information. I rechecked the amber input files and i = > found a mistake there in rms fitting the coordinates in my trajectory. > > regards, > Bala

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Re: [Chimera-users] rotating molecules for movies
by Thomas Goddard 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Hi Wendy, Here are some Chimera commands that are useful for making movies with Movie Recorder: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/recorder/moviecomm… Here's a fancier Chimera movie script example. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/recorder/1gfl.com Here is the documentation for the Movie Recorder dialog and movie command: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/recorder/recorder.… http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/movie.html Tom

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rotating molecules for movies
by wendy ochoa 30 Oct '06

30 Oct '06

Can anybody tell me how to use EMANIMATOR to make a movie of a molecule rotating. If I use the spin option, it uses the axis (0 1 0) but my molecule is not center at 0 0 0. Is there a way to fix the rotation center to the center of the molecule, or to the center of the view? Thanks

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generating electrostatic potential map
by bala 27 Oct '06

27 Oct '06

Hello all, I want to generate the electrostatic potential map using Chimera. I tried through Delphi controler, however i am repeatedly getting an error as follows. I have successfully installed Delphi. Can someone suggest me what is wrong. __________DelPhi V. 4 Release 1.1 ______________ | | | A program to solve the PB equation | | in 3D, using non-linear form, incorporating | | many dielectric regions, multisalt ionic | | strength, different probe radii, periodic | | and focussing boundary conditions, utilizing | | stripped optimum successive over-relaxation | | and an improved algorithm for mapping the | | Mol. Surface to the finite-Difference grid | | Recompiled on Linux and PC | | January 2002 -------- Walter Rocchia | |__________________ ___________________| DelPhi V. 4 program started on Fri Oct 27 2006 at 14:55:00 opening parameter file /tmp/tmpvpgS8V At least 30 nonlinear iterations atom radii read from file /usr/people/ojha/BALA/chim_amber.siz unknown header format in radius file: O5' A 1 1.7210 First it showed the same for H5 atom [which was the first atom in the siz/charge file], then i just tried by deleting the first line in the radius and charge file. Then the same error is coming for the second atom O5' in the file. Thanks in advance, Bala

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viewing grid density
by bala 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

Hello all, 1) I hve generated a solvent density map using Amber8 in XPLOR format. I am able to open the map in chimera. I hv also generated a refernce pdb file. Now i have to fix the reference structure of my molecule in the density map. I tried many options but i couldnt do that. Someone pls suggest me how i should do the same. 2) Also i am not clear with the meaning of the threshold levels given in the histogram. Although i could see the difference in the density map by sliding the vertical bar to various postions, i am getting what it can tell us exactly. Which is the most suitable threhold level etc. 3) Someone pls give me the link for the chimera mail list archive...i am unable to locate it. Bala

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To except box information in MD movie
by Atsutoshi Okabe 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

Hello, I viewed Amber format trajectory files ( topology/parameter file and trajectory file ) by MD movie. But I got the figure( attached file) I didn't intend. I think the reason is to read box information in the Amber trajectory file . How can I except the box information in MD movie window ?

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To color atoms
by Atsutoshi Okabe 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

Hi, I visualized one ligand molecule (a kind of sugar) written by PDB format within chimera. But all atoms have non color(attached file ) I want to color these atoms (i.e. the oxygen has red .) Could you please teach me how to color atoms?

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1.2304 production
by Eric Pettersen 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

We haven't received any major bug reports for the release candidate, so we have promoted it to a production release (1.2304) which includes a few quite minor bug fixes and some documentation improvements relative to the release candidate. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Movie - Display Spheres
by Jared Godar 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Hello, I am trying to use the 'represent spheres' command to draw attention to specific residues in a model that is displayed as a ribbon. I would like to first show the ATP binding site of the molecule with magenta spheres, then show the three residuse which get phosphorolated. Currently, I am able to display one of these elements or the other as spheres, but not both at the same time. I've tried to use a single represent sphere command to specify all of the desired atoms, but can't seem to get the context right, represent sphere #0:426,431,432,ATP and represent sphere #0:426,431,432 & #0::ATP weren't working. Help on the syntax to simultaneously display the two commands listed below which are currently mutually exclusive would be appreciated. #SHOW ATP: color magenta #0::ATP; color magenta #0::mg; represent sphere #0::ATP #SHOW PO4 Residues show #0:426,431,432; color yellow #0:426; color orange red #0:431; color red #0:432; represent sphere #0:426,431,432 Thanks, Jared -- Jared A. Godar Graduate Student: Stewart Lab Vanderbilt University Medical Center Department of Molecular Physiology & Biophysics 708 Light Hall 2215 Garland Ave. Nashville, TN 37232-0615 Work: 615.322.7898 Fax: 615.322.7236 jared.godar(a)vanderbilt.edu

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Dock?
by S Joshua Swamidass 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hello, Are there any plans to develop a gui frontend for DOCK using chimera? Josh

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force fitting a protein into select volume in a EM reconstruction
by jayant_jacques 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

hi! Is it possible in chimera to choose a particular part of a EM envelope and a protein and fit them? AS the protein that I am trying to fit into the map finds a better fit else where in the EM envelope, after I painstakingly align it to the place where its supposed to be!!! Thanks Jayant Jayasundar Jayant James Postdoc, Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520, USA. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790

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release candidate
by Eric Pettersen 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

We've made a release candidate (version 1.2303) available for download. It has many new features relative to the previous production release (1.2199). The features/improvements are listed here: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/relnotes/1.2303.html Please let us know if you encounter any problems with the release candidate. If no major problems surface in the next few days, we will promote the candidate to production release status. Enjoy! Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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viewing
by jayant_jacques 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Hi! I thank chimera users for answering and helping me in fitting my protein into EM Map. I have a small problem. When I rotate the protein, portions of the map and protein come into view and dissappear. I am not able to figure out how to turn off this feature in chimera! I would be grateful if told how to turn off this feature. Thanks Jayant Jayasundar Jayant James Postdoc, Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520, USA. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790

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Re: [Chimera-users] About Chimera under Linux64
by Thomas Goddard 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Hi Quentin, I suggest you use the 32-bit Linux Chimera version 1.2255. Or if you wait a few days a new 32-bit Linux Chimera version 1.2303 will be coming out. We do not regularly build a 64-bit Linux Chimera because we do not have a 64-bit Linux system in our lab. (I'll have to check on this -- maybe we have one now.) The only 64-bit version we routinely distribute is for the very obscure Tru64 operating system running on computers with Alpha processors. The current 64-bit Linux build (May 2005) is so old that it lacks many useful features for looking at EM maps. The reason we have not moved more quickly to support 64-bit distributions is because Chimera is strongly oriented towards interactive calculations -- that is calculations taking at most a few seconds. On gigabyte size data there is almost nothing that can be done in a few seconds. Still we understand that you may look at the data subsampled (using the volume dialog step size) and then want to create an image at full resolution (for example for a publication or talk) that may take many minutes to render and will need alot of memory -- not easily accomodated in a 32-bit address space. It is our plan to regularly distribute 64-bit Linux and Windows version in the future -- probably within a year. The main hold-up is that we do not have 64-bit machines setup in our lab yet. The usual method of working with large EM tomograms in Chimera is to focus on smaller regions of interest so that segmentation can be done interactively. Practical size chunks of data are 256^3. You can select these smaller regions in Chimera. For large pieces the graphics hardware is not able to render fast enough to allow smooth interactive rotation used in segmenting interactively. It is possible to display larger volumes and just display every other data plane along each axis. Tom > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:11:12 +0200 > From: Quentin <derobill(a)mpi-cbg.de> > User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) > To: goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Subject: About Chimera under Linux64 > > Dear Mr. Goddard, > > I have been setting up the EM tomography in the Max-Planck Institute for > Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics Dresden (www.mpi-cbg.de Germany ) > since one year. We have a tecnai F30 dedicated for tomogram acquisition > and it runs after some efforts, with SerialEM/IMOD. I would like to > improve now the segmentation part of our work which is the bottleneck in > our fields. So I strive now to get a good set of software to segment and > visual our huge(600Mb to 6Gb) 3d electron density map (.mrc file format). > > Manfred Auer and Sergio Marco oriented me on your work, i.e. the volume > data display tools in Chimera. The first tests I did the last days, look > really promising. Your work is really helpful for the 3D Electron > Microscopy community. Thanks. > > I am just wondering why the compiled version for Linux64 of Chimera is > so old(May 17,2005). Is there some reason? Should I use a newer 32bit > version ? typically our dataset are 600Mb to 5Gb and we are running a > dual core Athlon 64 machine with soon 8Gb memory under Ubuntu64bit. > > Thanks for your attention, > > Best regards, > > Quentin de Robillard > > Pfottenhauerstr. 108 > 01307 Dresden > +49 351 210 20 61 >

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Re: [Chimera-users] fitting a protein inside an EM reconstruction
by Elaine Meng 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

Hi Jayant, Selecting something is not the same as making it movable. Selecting something makes Actions menu items apply to it. If you want to make different models movable/unmovable, use the "Active" checkboxes in the Model Panel (Favorites... Model Panel), or various "activate" functions in the right side of the Model Panel, or the small checkboxes under the Command Line (Favorites... Command Line). These activation methods determine which models can be moved with the mouse or with movement commands like "move" and "turn." As Tom said, however, the fitting tool requires atoms to be selected. Even if only a few atoms are selected, the fitting will move the entire model containing the atoms, but maximize the density values at the selected atoms. I hope this helps, Elaine On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:14 AM, jayant_jacques wrote: > > Hi! > I have been trying to fit a protein into an EM reconstruction. > > methodology > I display my protein of interest and EM map on the same window. > I select the protein and if I click fit. > > Problem > 1. Nothing happens!! If I move the protein the whole frame moves as a > whole. > 2. Also is it possible to click drag the protein into the envelope > and then give the fit command such that the program will take over the > fitting. As I have 3 proteins to fit into this EM Map. > > Thanks > Jayant > Jayasundar Jayant James > Postdoc, > Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology > and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman > 99164-6520, USA. > http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp > Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790 > > <1963059423(a)Middle5.gif> ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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fitting a protein inside an EM reconstruction
by jayant_jacques 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

Hi! I have been trying to fit a protein into an EM reconstruction. methodology I display my protein of interest and EM map on the same window. I select the protein and if I click fit. Problem 1. Nothing happens!! If I move the protein the whole frame moves as a whole. 2. Also is it possible to click drag the protein into the envelope and then give the fit command such that the program will take over the fitting. As I have 3 proteins to fit into this EM Map. Thanks Jayant Jayasundar Jayant James Postdoc, Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520, USA. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790

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Fwd: single-sequence FASTA file does not open
by Lucas J. Thode 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

Oops, sorry about double-posting this, but I forgot to mention that I am not on the list, so remember to CC me. ----- Original Message ----- In Chimera beta 1 build 2199 on Windows XP Professional SP2, I cannot open a FASTA file that contains a single sequence. (The file in question is attached and looks to be a valid FASTA file according to the documentation I have read on the FASTA format.) What should I do about this issue? Error log: Opening F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta Error reading F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta: IOError: Only one sequence found in Aligned FASTA file 'F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta'; check your alignment file for errors (see reply log for Python traceback info) Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\__main__.py", line 59, in ? value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimeraInit.py", line 308, in init tkgui.eventLoop() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 2757, in eventLoop app.mainloop() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py", line 965, in mainloop self.tk.mainloop(n) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\Lib\site-packages\Pmw\Pmw_1_2\lib\PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__ return apply(self.func, args) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\baseDialog.py", line 229, in <lambda> self.__buttonFuncName(txt))() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\baseDialog.py", line 470, in OK self.Apply() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 160, in Apply openPath(path, ftype) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 258, in openPath mols = chimera.openModels.open(path, type=ftype) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\__init__.py", line 1086, in open models = func(filename, *args, **kw) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\ChimeraExtension.py", line 33, in <lambda> lambda fn, e=emo, ft=fileType: e.open(fn, ft), File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\ChimeraExtension.py", line 25, in open self.module('MAViewer').MAViewer(fileName, fileType) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\MAViewer.py", line 59, in __init__ seqs, fileAttrs, fileMarkups = self.readFile( File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\MAViewer.py", line 761, in readFile seqs, fileAttrs, fileMarkups = parseFile(fileName, fileType) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\parse.py", line 100, in parseFile raise IOError("Only one sequence found in %s file" IOError: Only one sequence found in Aligned FASTA file 'F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta'; check your alignment file for errors Done opening F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta

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single-sequence FASTA file does not open
by Lucas J. Thode 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

In Chimera beta 1 build 2199 on Windows XP Professional SP2, I cannot open a FASTA file that contains a single sequence. (The file in question is attached and looks to be a valid FASTA file according to the documentation I have read on the FASTA format.) What should I do about this issue? Error log: Opening F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta Error reading F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta: IOError: Only one sequence found in Aligned FASTA file 'F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta'; check your alignment file for errors (see reply log for Python traceback info) Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\__main__.py", line 59, in ? value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimeraInit.py", line 308, in init tkgui.eventLoop() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 2757, in eventLoop app.mainloop() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py", line 965, in mainloop self.tk.mainloop(n) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\bin\Lib\site-packages\Pmw\Pmw_1_2\lib\PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__ return apply(self.func, args) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\baseDialog.py", line 229, in <lambda> self.__buttonFuncName(txt))() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\baseDialog.py", line 470, in OK self.Apply() File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 160, in Apply openPath(path, ftype) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\tkgui.py", line 258, in openPath mols = chimera.openModels.open(path, type=ftype) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\chimera\__init__.py", line 1086, in open models = func(filename, *args, **kw) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\ChimeraExtension.py", line 33, in <lambda> lambda fn, e=emo, ft=fileType: e.open(fn, ft), File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\ChimeraExtension.py", line 25, in open self.module('MAViewer').MAViewer(fileName, fileType) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\MAViewer.py", line 59, in __init__ seqs, fileAttrs, fileMarkups = self.readFile( File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\MAViewer.py", line 761, in readFile seqs, fileAttrs, fileMarkups = parseFile(fileName, fileType) File "C:\Program Files\Chimera\share\MultAlignViewer\parse.py", line 100, in parseFile raise IOError("Only one sequence found in %s file" IOError: Only one sequence found in Aligned FASTA file 'F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta'; check your alignment file for errors Done opening F:\H Biotech Engineering\cftr.fasta

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Vilualizing solvent distribution
by Atsutoshi Okabe 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Dear all, I want to visualize solvent(water) distributions around one solute molecule. I do molecular dynamics calculation with Amber8 program. So I got the following ouput file using grid command of Ptraj module to analyze trajectories. This line is ignored 1 rdparm generated grid density 100 -49 50 100 -49 50 100 -49 50 30.000 30.000 30.000 90.000 90.000 90.000 ZYX -49 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 I think the output is in the format of a XPLOR formatted contour file and can visualize this output data within chimera soft ware. But I don't know how to treat this out put file in chimera . Can I use this file directory in chimera or have to do anything else before I use chimera? Thanks Atsutoshi

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Request: can model selection be added to the pull down selection menu?
by Boaz Shaanan 10 Oct '06

10 Oct '06

Hi, I wonder if you could consider adding the option of selecting models to the pull-down selection menu. Right now, only chains (and other things) can be selected but quite often, when reading different models with the same chain names, the only way to select specific chains from a model would be by using the command line where models can be specified. This works of course, but having the model-selection option in the pull-down menu might add flexibility. What do you think ? Regards, Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Associate Professor Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel‎

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Re: [Chimera-users] window size
by Viktor Hornak 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

Hi Elaine, this is exactly what I needed. Also, thanks for a pointer to experimental features page (it's nice!). One other vaguely related question I had was whether it's possible to find out what chimera commands correspond to actions picked from menus or panels (e.g. Actions->Atoms/Bonds->Hide; Camera -> orthographic from Viewing/Side View panel, etc.). My objective is to capture everything I do in a specific session in chimera command scripts, which have an advantage over saving the session in that 1) I see what I did directly in the script, 2) these scripts are much smaller than session files. Thanks for your help! -Viktor Elaine Meng wrote: > Hi Viktor, > From our experimental features page > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/experimental/experimental.html > > you can download a "set magnification and window size" feature that > includes a "windowsize" command. > > A related feature (unfortunately broken in past releases, but will be > available in the next release) is the --geometry startup option. We > plan to make a release this month. The --geometry option is not quite > as straightforward as the windowsize command, because depending on the > system, the specified size might include some of the bars around the > graphics window. However, that just means you need to try it once, > use the "get pixels" button on the image-saving panel (File... Save > Image) to determine the actual graphics window dimensions, and at the > next startup use --geometry with the necessary additions or > subtractions to achieve the target size. That's what I've been doing. > > Startup options are described here: > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/options.html > > However, if you are on a Windows system, it is not very convenient to > use startup options (one way is to make a separate Chimera shortcut > and modify its properties). If you are on Windows, getting the > "windowsize" command from the experimental features page may be the > way to go. > > I hope this helps, > Elaine > > On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Viktor Hornak wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> I was wondering if there's chimera command that sets the size of chimera >> window. Basically I just want to have a well defined window size when I >> save pictures (or movies)... >> >> Thanks, >> -Viktor >> >> -- >> Viktor Hornak >> SUNY at Stony Brook >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chimera-users mailing list >> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >> > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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fitting a protein inside an EM reconstruction
by jayant_jacques 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

hi! I am having a small problem in fitting crystal structures into the EM reconstruction. Problem definition When I open the protein that I am trying to fit into the EM map along side the EM map, the Em Map shrinks. The EM map which is the super set, which holds 3 proteins appears shrunk with respect to the protein that I am trying to fit inside the EM Map and the crystal structure How am I to overcome this hurdle? thanks Jayant Jayasundar Jayant James Postdoc, Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520, USA. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790

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window size
by Viktor Hornak 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

Dear All, I was wondering if there's chimera command that sets the size of chimera window. Basically I just want to have a well defined window size when I save pictures (or movies)... Thanks, -Viktor -- Viktor Hornak SUNY at Stony Brook

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OpenGL error in GfxInfo::initialize 'out of memory'
by Dmitry Osolodkin 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hello all, I have a very small but annoying problem. I had two versions of libGL.so.1, so I have renamed the version in /usr/X11R6/lib/. Now I can run Chimera, but it works rather slow and says OpenGL error in GfxInfo::initialize 'out of memory'. I use Mandriva Linux 2006 and FireGL drivers by ATI. Could anone help me? Thanks. Dmitry Osolodkin

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 2
by Jonathan Hilmer 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Pu Qian, Although resources-intensive, I find it useful to have multiple, identical, overlapping copies of the same density set. It allows complex 'removal' of sections in the final image by the combination of multiple clipping planes. For example, the three planes with definitions of [1,0,0], [0,1,0], and [0,0,1] all with an origin at the center of your data will cut away 1/8 of a spherical region, if you have three copies of the density loaded. This also makes it easy to animate the cutout. The alternative is to use the volume eraser (http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/voleraser/volerase…) which works, but I've found it less useful for movies. When working with large data sets and this method, use cropped density sets to minimize unnecessary resource usage. Jonathan > > To whom it may concern, > > > > I'm a new user of Chimera. It is a very good software! > > > > Here, I would like to ask you a few questions? To show inside of > > protein > > (3d model),I need to cut it into half (sometime, maybe only part, > > for example, > > 1/4 etc.). Just like an apple, if I want to show its core, I need > > to cut the > > apple into two parts from its middle. Does Chimera has such > > function? (I think > > it has.) My 3d data comes from electron microscopy single particle > > analysis > > using IMAGIC5. Dose Chimera accept 3d data from IMAGIC5? If so, > > which type of > > 3d data I should produce for Chimera? It would be a great > > appreciated if you > > could reply me in your convenience. Hope it will not bother you too > > much. > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > > > > Pu Qian > > > > Dr. Pu Qian > > Department of Molecular Biology > > The University of Sheffield > > Firth Court, Western Bank > > Sheffield, S10 2TN > > UK

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Spider to Brix
by Batsal Devkota 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hi, When I convert spider file to brix and load both of them in Chimera, they do not superimpose on top of each other. I adjusted the origin to be 0,0,0 for both the maps and still the maps seem to be rotated with respect to one another. any insight?? Thank you, Batsal. -------------------------------------------------- Batsal Devkota Graduate Student, School of Biology GeorgiaInstitute ofTechnology Atlanta, GA 30332-0400

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volumetric filling
by jayant_jacques 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

hi! I am striving to perform voluertric filling of a crystal structure into an EM reconstruction. I have down loaded and complited the Linux_64 bit version. I first load my crystal structure and then the EM reconstruction on the same screen and set the EM reconstruction as DATa. I am not able to figure out where the FIT buttons is located in the pop up menus!!! I would be very grateful if you could help me sort out this issue! Thanks Jayant NB I am using the online manual to help me in this endeavour http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/fitmodels/fitmodel… Jayasundar Jayant James Postdoc, Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520, USA. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp Phone office:335-5937, Cell:1-509-432-5790

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Slicing a 3d model
by Thomas Goddard 04 Oct '06

04 Oct '06

Hi Pu Qian, Use clip planes to cut a model in half in Chimera. There are two types of clip planes. The front and back clip planes are always parallel to the screen. The per-model clip planes can be oriented at any angle. Both can clip away the back as well as the front. The following web page describes how to use both for EM density maps. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html#slab Clipping works on all types of data in Chimera including atomic models of proteins. For EM data it helps to have Chimera cover the holes left when a contour surface is clipped. This is described here. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html#capping Also you can color according to density on the sliced surface. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html#colorc… All of these URLs come from the Chimera guide to volume display http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html and you may find other useful features for viewing your EM map there. The following page shows examples of clipping, capping and coloring including a movie of a slab moving through an EM map of a virus particle. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/experimental/viper_em/viper_em.html Chimera reads many density map file formats (CCP4, MRC, SPIDER, O, XPLOR, Purdue image format, ...) http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/filetypes.html#volume I do not know if IMAGIC5 uses any of these formats or has its own. Chimera does not read any specific IMAGIC5 format. Tom > From: P Qian <P.Qian(a)sheffield.ac.uk> > Date: October 4, 2006 1:43:50 PM PDT > Subject: Sheffield Qian, how to make cut 3d model > > > > To whom it may concern, > > I'm a new user of Chimera. It is a very good software! > > Here, I would like to ask you a few questions? To show inside of > protein > (3d model),I need to cut it into half (sometime, maybe only part, > for example, > 1/4 etc.). Just like an apple, if I want to show its core, I need > to cut the > apple into two parts from its middle. Does Chimera has such > function? (I think > it has.) My 3d data comes from electron microscopy single particle > analysis > using IMAGIC5. Dose Chimera accept 3d data from IMAGIC5? If so, > which type of > 3d data I should produce for Chimera? It would be a great > appreciated if you > could reply me in your convenience. Hope it will not bother you too > much. > > Sincerely yours, > > > Pu Qian > > Dr. Pu Qian > Department of Molecular Biology > The University of Sheffield > Firth Court, Western Bank > Sheffield, S10 2TN > UK >

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Re: [Chimera-users] Merge PDB Question
by Jonathan Hilmer 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

On the issue of using Chimera to write PDB files, would it be possible to change the format of the PDB output Chimera generates? I'm not too well-versed in the details of the pdb file format, but I ran into issues using Chimera-generated structures with a Blender plugin that used BioPython to handle parsing the files. Although I can't remember the details off the top of my head, it involved the use of multiple 'END' statements to separate models (in Chimera-generated files). It was easy enough to write a script to substitute 'MODEL', 'ENDMDL' pairs, but I'm sure it would be better implemented in whatever library handles the file IO in Chimera. Jonathan > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:38:00 -0700 > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Merge PDB Question > To: "Jared Godar" <jared.godar(a)vanderbilt.edu> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <4F99156D-A681-4EFB-AC6C-5A0C57D029E0(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Jared, > Currently you cannot bond different models, and the only way to > "merge" is to put the atoms in the same file before opening it. > There are actually other reasons your command wouldn't work: > > - seems to me that there is no model 1, only 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4, > so the first part would specify zero atoms > - the ampersand & stands for intersection (logical AND, not english > and) and should be omitted, e.g. > command: bond #1.1:504.b@c #1.1:505.b@n > > What I've done in the past to handle similar cases (splicing stuff > from an NMR structure onto a Xray structure) is to first put the tail > (with a few extra residues to overlap with residues that are already > present) into a file by itself. Then I open that new file, so it > will be a new, separate model. I then match that model onto the > original model using atoms in the overlapping part. Then, write out > another PDB file of the tail relative to the untransformed original > model. Using text-editing, remove the part that overlaps since it > was just there for positioning purposes. FINALLY (text-editing > again) make another PDB file that combines the new tail with the > original protein. They may need to have the same chain ID as well. > Sorry this is such a long process. If you think you can hand- > position the tail sufficiently well you could skip the parts about > having the extra atoms, using them for matching, and deleting them. > > If you remove any intervening TER, the bond will already be there > when you open the new file. > > I hope this helps, > Elaine

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] chimera help
by Eric Pettersen 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

If you have a large number of PDBs then you might want to use Python, where you have access to loops and variables. Say you had the PDBs listed in a file, one per line, named "mypdbs". Then you might use a Python script like this: -------------------------------------- import chimera from chimera import runCommand f = open("mypdbs", "r") for line in f: pdbID = line.strip() runCommand("open " + pdbID) runCommand("scale 1.5; ~disp; ribbon; ribrepr smooth; rainbow") runCommand("copy file %s.png png supersample 5" % pdbID) runCommand("close all") -------------------------------------- Note that the "runCommand" function allows you to do things that you know the Chimera command for without knowing what the Python equivalent is. Assuming you name the script file with a ".py" ending so that Chimera can recognize it as Python, then you can run the script with any of the ways that Chimera opens files (File...Open dialog, "open" command, startup shell command argument). Also, Chimera needs the graphics window to be showing and not obscured by other windows in order to render the images. If you are doing a lot of images you may have to turn off your screen saver so that it doesn't hide the Chimera window. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu On Sep 28, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Elaine Meng wrote: > Hi Vishal, > Actually you can do this with a Chimera command script, as opposed > to programming in Python. A command script just contains the same > commands you would enter in the Command Line. I'm not sure of what > type of saving you had in mind, " but the "copy" command can be > used to save an image file, "save" to save a session, and "write" > to save a PDB file. > > This page links to all the command man pages, plus it discusses > command scripts (at the bottom): > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2199/docs/UsersGuide/ > framecommand.html > > Just opening the command file will execute the commands. > Here are links to a couple of example command files: > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2199/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ > setup.com > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/recorder/ > 1gfl.com > > And here is another, between the dashed lines: > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > open 1hxx > open 1pho > modelcolor coral #0 > modelcolor cornflower blue #1 > ~disp; rep bs; ribbon; ribrepr smooth > matchmaker #0 #1 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > I guess the main difficulty if you are saving images is how to get > a good view of the structures. Usually some rotation, scaling, etc. > is done interactively to make a better picture. > I hope this helps, > Elaine > > > On Sep 27, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Vishal Pua wrote: > >> Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to create a script, that >> would open pdb files, render them to look a certain way ex. wire >> or ribbon, then save, automatically? this would have to work for a >> number of pdb files? I have little programming experience, and >> wonder if there was an easy way to do this, thanks >> >> Vishal Pua >> _______________________________________________ >> Chimera-dev mailing list >> Chimera-dev(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-dev > > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-dev mailing list > Chimera-dev(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-dev _______________________________________________ Chimera-dev mailing list Chimera-dev(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-dev

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Merge PDB Question
by Jared Godar 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

I have an incomplete pdb crystal structure of a homohexameric protein containing six ~25AA tails. In the incomplete model, two of these six tails are complete (A and F) and the other four are truncated at various positions (B,C,D, and E). I have used the either the A or F complete tails as templates and generated appropriate length segments to compleate each of the truncated B-E tails by selecting the appropriate residues and saving the selected atoms as a new PDB. Currently, I have all six tails completed and saved as a single PDB. I would like to use the Bond command to covalently link the extended chains, but my single PDB is segregated into models 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5. When I use the Bond command as follows "bond #1: 504.b@c & #1.3:505.a@n", I get an error that only one atom is selected. Does Chimera consider #1 and #1.1 to be different models? If so, how can I merge these 5 models into one to allow me to create the bond? Thanks, Jared -- Jared A. Godar Graduate Student: Stewart Lab Vanderbilt University Medical Center Department of Molecular Physiology & Biophysics 708 Light Hall 2215 Garland Ave. Nashville, TN 37232-0615 Work: 615.322.7898 Fax: 615.322.7236 jared.godar(a)vanderbilt.edu

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] chimera help
by Elaine Meng 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

Hi Vishal, Actually you can do this with a Chimera command script, as opposed to programming in Python. A command script just contains the same commands you would enter in the Command Line. I'm not sure of what type of saving you had in mind, " but the "copy" command can be used to save an image file, "save" to save a session, and "write" to save a PDB file. This page links to all the command man pages, plus it discusses command scripts (at the bottom): http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2199/docs/UsersGuide/framecommand.html Just opening the command file will execute the commands. Here are links to a couple of example command files: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/1.2199/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ setup.com http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/recorder/ 1gfl.com And here is another, between the dashed lines: ----------------------------------------------------------------- open 1hxx open 1pho modelcolor coral #0 modelcolor cornflower blue #1 ~disp; rep bs; ribbon; ribrepr smooth matchmaker #0 #1 ----------------------------------------------------------------- I guess the main difficulty if you are saving images is how to get a good view of the structures. Usually some rotation, scaling, etc. is done interactively to make a better picture. I hope this helps, Elaine On Sep 27, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Vishal Pua wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to create a script, that > would open pdb files, render them to look a certain way ex. wire or > ribbon, then save, automatically? this would have to work for a > number of pdb files? I have little programming experience, and > wonder if there was an easy way to do this, thanks > > Vishal Pua > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-dev mailing list > Chimera-dev(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-dev ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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how to get nonbonded distance and torsion angle list
by Prem Prakash Pathak 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

Hi! I am using the chimera for the visualizing protien form *.pdb file. I wanted to get the nonbonded distance , *.upl file and angle constraint files. Would you please help me in solving the problem. PremPrakash

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"longbond" in scripts
by Eric Pettersen 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

We've made some improvements to the "longbond" command (breaks non- physical bonds that show missing structure segments) which are not backward compatible with the previous version. We are wondering if anyone makes any significant use of the longbond command in scripts. If you do, we would consider making a new command with the improved behavior and leaving the longbond command unchanged for backwards compatibility. So speak up if this affects you. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Connolly surface and Triangulation
by Nihshanka Debroy 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Hi, Not sure if this went the first time, so sending it again: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been using Chimera to generate the Connolly surface for several different proteins and saving the surface information in X3D format. I was wondering what algorithms are used in the Connolly surface generation. Is it the same approach that Michael Connolly had come up with in his 1983 paper on Analytical Molecular Surface Calculation, or is it a variation of that algorithm? Also, when the surface information is saved by Chimera in X3D, it breaks the surface into triangular faces. I noticed that the coordinates of the points comprising the triangles are completely different from the atomic coordinates. I am interested in learning more about how the triangulation is created. If you could direct me to a link or paper that would help me better understand the algorithms involved in these two processes, that would be great! Thanks. Sincerely, Nihshanka

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chimera ubuntu/debian package?
by Javier Díez 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Hy: Is there a chimera version for ubuntu or debian? I would like to add the url to my sources.list if it exits. Thank you any way. Javi

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Re: [Chimera-users] Map Oddities
by Thomas Goddard 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Hi Albion, When you are running Chimera and it opens a Python code file with suffix .py and there is an older byte compiled version of the same file with suffix .pyc then Python automatically recompiles the .py file and you should see that the date on the .pyc file is updated. You never need to compile Python files by hand. Here are 3 ideas about how to make some programs that read MRC maps establish equivalent map positions. As I mentioned in my previous email some programs may fail with certain maps to associate the x,y,z axes with the correct data axes. And some may ignore all header info about positioning. So there are alot of different cases. I'm only going to make suggestions for the simple problems. One idea is to have Chimera print out the difference between the origin that a crystallography program would use versus the MRC 2000 origin. You could insert a little code in the Chimera mrc_format.py file to print this difference for MRC 2000 files. Specifically after the line self.data_origin = (v['xorigin'], v['yorigin'], v['zorigin']) add lines # Print difference between crystal and mrc 2000 origins ncs_nrs_nss = v['ncstart'], v['nrstart'], v['nsstart'] nxs, nys, nzs = ncs_nrs_nss[xa], ncs_nrs_nss[ya], ncs_nrs_nss[za] from VolumeData.griddata import scale_and_skew x0,y0,z0 = scale_and_skew((nxs,nys,nzs), self.data_step, self.cell_angles) print 'Origin difference ', self.name, '=', print x0 - v['xorigin'], y0 - v['yorigin'], z0 - v['zorigin'] The origin difference will be printed to the Chimera reply log and you can somehow apply it in other programs. A second idea is to try to modify the MRC 2000 map header so that the crystal origin is the same as the xorigin, yorigin, zorigin header values. This is generally not possible since the former uses integers while the latter uses float values. But if you don't care where the origin is as long as all programs agree, you might adjust xorigin, yorigin and zorigin to match the crystal origin. You would need some simple program to modify the map header. A third approach is to modify Chimera mrc_format.py so it never uses the MRC 2000 xorigin, yorigin, zorigin. If Chimera always uses the crystal origin that would probably more often agree with other software packages. I would recommend against this approach. You will later install a new version of Chimera without the modification and your fit PDB models will no longer align with their maps and you will probably forget why and scream. Tom > From: Albion Baucom <baucom(a)msg.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Map Oddities > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:12:51 -0700 > To: Thomas Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > > Hi Tom, > Im going to take this off list since my inquiries get more specific > now, but you are welcome to post this back to list if you think it is > within the scope of the Chimera Users list. > > So, you were right. There is indeed a X, Y and Z origin field in the > map header. Thanks for pointing that out and giving me the code to > print those values to the reply log. > > A quick question regarding my modification to the mrc_format.py. I > don't know Python very well yet, and am wondering what happens when I > modified the source code. The modifications worked of course, but > Chimera did not recompile the code into a .pyc file. When are > the .pyc files accessed? > > OK, back to the original question :) > > So, offhand, could you suggest a fix for me so that other programs > that use the "other" origin can interpret the data the same as > Chimera? Naturally what is going to have to happen is I will have to > translate the PDB file a set distance based on the discrepancy > between the origin conventions. I would like to do this translation > as accurately as possible. > > What I noticed from an empirical re-docking of the PDB file into the > density in another program was it had to be moved approximately ~116A > in all 3 axes. This appears to be close to the following calculation > (for the x axis in this case) > > ( | xorg | - xlen) + (xlen/2) > > where xorg (-224) is the MRC2000 origin, and xlen (213.423) is the > xtal origin. In this case this comes out to be > > (224.000 - 213.423) + (xlen/2) = 117.289 > > Applying this to the model as a translation in all 3 axes looks > almost exactly like what I see in Chimera. > > Does this make any sense? This is all I could come up with that gave > an answer close to my empirical docking translation numbers. > > Thanks Tom. I really appreciate your help. > > Albion

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