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structure matching
by Bala subramanian 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Hello all, 1) I have to superimpose two protein structures based on sequence matching say prot1 and prot2. Precisely matchmaker. My prot1 is a cryo electron microscopy structure, the structure is not continuous, it has missing residues and hence its pdb contains 3 Chains. My prot2 is a crystal structure, having one chain. I need your suggestion in superimposing these two structure wherever the sequences are matching. What i tried: I opened pro1 pdb and changed all chain names as A ( it contains chain A,B,C). Then i tried to superimpose with prot2, but matchmaker doesn work. 2) when i open molecules one by one, i need all the molecules appear in the center of the chimera window. How to set this in chimera. After opening the first pdb, when i open the second one, it is invisible. Thanks, Bala

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matchmaker output
by Karan Uppal 04 Mar '09

04 Mar '09

Hello, I want to simplify the question I asked yesterday. Is there any way to store the output of Match Maker, specifically the RMSD values for every residue and the list of residues in the alignment regions in an external file from command line? Thank you -Karan

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Web Access Data
by Thiruvarangan Ramaraj 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Hello All, I created a session and saved it under .chimerax extension. I have a link to this session on a web page. When I click on this link I wanted the session to open directly using the chimera program. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/webdata/webdata.ht… I tried to follow the instructions given in the above link, still I am unsuccessful in figuring it out. Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Thiru

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save image with --nogui
by Mark Moll 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

I'd like to load some pdb files, change the view/colors/representation/ etc., and save the resulting view as an image. If possible, I'd like to do this in the background without the GUI. This doesn't seem to work. The latest daily build gives the errors below when using this simple script: import Midas Midas.copy(file='test.png', format='PNG', width=600, height=400) Should I be using a different command? > /Applications/Chimera.app/Contents/MacOS/chimera --nogui foo.pdb test.py Opening foo.pdb... Executing test.py...Rendering high resolution image... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/Chimera.app/Contents/Resources/share/ __main__.py", line 65, in <module> value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimeraInit.py", line 420, in init chimera.openModels.open(a, prefixableType=1) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 1368, in open File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 802, in _openPython File "test.py", line 10, in <module> Midas.copy(file='test.png', format='PNG', width=600, height=400) File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/Midas/__init__.py", line 1049, in copy File "/var/tmp/chimeraBuild_AGL/build/install/Chimera.app/Contents/ Resources/share/chimera/printer.py", line 1176, in saveImage AttributeError: '_chimera.NoGuiViewer' object has no attribute 'pilImages' Error while processing test.py: AttributeError: '_chimera.NoGuiViewer' object has no attribute 'pilImages' (see reply log for Python traceback info) -- Mark

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Saving MultAlign Viewer header information using python
by Karan Uppal 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hello, I am trying to write a Python script to extract the header information from the MultAlign Viewer tool. Are there any command-line commands to interface with this tool and save the header information without manually using the toolbar. Thank you -Karan Uppal

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finding salt bridges
by Elaine Meng 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

> Hi everybody, I just realized my previous suggestion would not include the positively charged histidines, and I have not been able to think of a selector for just those nitrogens. > Example commands to first select by atom type and then find the H- > bonds: > > sel O2- | O3- | N3+ | Ng+ > findhbond selRestrict both saveFile ~/mydir/myfile Sorry about that, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Reverse of AddH
by Francesco Pietra 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi: Is it possible to remove all hydrogens by command, without intervening manually on the pdb file? I have to rmsd the starting (no H) pdb with the final structure after MD (with H). AddH command to the starting structure would place H not optimized, while MD has also changed the C-backbone conformation. Thanks francesco pietra

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solvent accessible area
by Bala subramanian 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

chimerians, I want to calculate the solvent accessible surface area for each atom and write it in the pdb file, kindly tell me how to do it. This is something i used to do with GRASP. it calculates the sasa for each atom and it can be written as a pdb file with sasa in the last column. Thanks, hve nice weekend Bala

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solvent accessible area
by Boaz Shaanan 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi Bala, The program areaimol in the ccp4 package will do just that (i.e. generate a pdb file with the sasa value in the b-factor column). Cheers, Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences Ben-Gurion University of the Negev Beer-Sheva 84105 Israel Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710 Skype: boaz.shaanan‎

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Multiscale model of RNAP : fibrous aspect
by Damien Larivière 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Dear Elaine, I used the Multiscale Model tool to create a low resolution surface of the PDB 1L9U (TAQ RNA polymerase). The attached image is what I got with a resolution 4 : a fibrous structure. So, I wonder what such a fibrous aspect means or whether it means the tool has some difficulties to create the surface with this specific protein ? Thanks for your help Damien

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How to refer to Chimera in a Newsletter
by Gary Newton 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Hello... I am writing a newsletter for the SER-CAT synchrotron beamlines sector 22 at APS - the newsletter is called the "SER-CAT Spectrum" and is distributed primarily to beamline users. I have included a simple protein drawing produced by CHIMERA and indicated that the drawing was produced by CHIMERA. Should I include a trademark symbol or perhaps a copyright symbol after the name? Thanks for any advice. Best, Gary Newton University of Georgia Athens, GA

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searching chimera archieve
by Bala subramanian 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Dear Elaine, Long time back, I posted a question on *searching chimera archive for a keyword*. Just for an example, i gave "salt bridge" as a key word in the following link, but it dose nt show me the queries on salt bridge in chimera archive. I dnt undertand why ?. It would helpful for chimera loves like me not to repeat same queries and also to understand all ways of analyzing salt bridge based on previous queries. I am sorry if this question is not relevant to chimera technical issues. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/feedback.html Cheers, Bala

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how to quickly delete several markers
by Juha Huiskonen 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Dear Chimera developers & users, I am visualizing template matching results of volume data in Chimera, and I have to discard hundreds of false positives matches, represented as markers. Now I select some markers and then delete the selected markers from the Volume Path Tracer menu. This is quite slow, and for me it would be really handy, if I could delete (all linked) markers just by clicking (one of them) them. Maybe "delete markers with mouse" feature could be added to Volume Path Tracer module? Or is there already a faster way to do this? Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions! Juha -- Dr. Juha Huiskonen Max Planck Institute of Biochemistry Department of Molecular Structural Biology Am Klopferspitz 18 D-82152 Martinsried Germany Tel: +49 89 8578-2632 Fax: +49 89 8578-2641 GSM: +49 176 20786875 E-mail: huiskone(a)biochem.mpg.de http://www.helsinki.fi/~huiskone/

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angles after match
by julien(GWDG) 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Dear all, thank you for the very nice software. I continuously like it. I have the following problem. For different molecules, I would like to know what are the transformation that link them. I can do for example match #0 #1 matrixget - From this matrix I have the rotation information and the translation information. I would like to extract the angles. For that I need to know what convention you used. I guess those are Euler angles (?), but I need to know what is the order of rotation xyz, xzy... Finally how do you get ride of the gimbal lock problem if you use Euler angles. Thank you for your constant help. (Sorry if this question is a duplicate) many greetings julien

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slab representation of nucleic acid
by Bala subramanian 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

The slab representation of nucleic acid under Depiction is not working. I made the following settings *show backbone as* atoms/bonds, *show sugar as* atoms/bonds, *show base* as slab. But the representation is not displayed on the screen. What could be the reason. I myself have used it before and i am not aware why this happens now. Regards, Bala

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finding salt bridges
by Elaine Meng 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

On Feb 24, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Jeremy Schmit wrote: > Does Chimera have a tool for identifying salt bridges? I was able > to use the findHbond tool to count intermolecular H-bonds in the > lysozyme crystal, but I can't seem to find an analogous tool for > salt bridges. In fact, the term "salt bridge" does not yield a > single result on the Chimera site. > Thanks, > Jeremy Hi Jeremy, There isn't a tool for specifically finding salt bridges, but you can consider them as a subset of hydrogen bonds. You could select only atoms in charged functional groups and then limit H-bond detection to that selection. Example commands to first select by atom type and then find the H-bonds: sel O2- | O3- | N3+ | Ng+ findhbond selRestrict both saveFile ~/mydir/myfile If the subunits of interest are different chains in the same model (same input file), you could then postprocess the output (for example, with "grep" on unix) to count only those between the chains. If each subunit is opened as a different model, you could add "intramodel false" to the findhbond command. There are analogous options on the FindHBond graphical interface: "Only find H-bonds with both ends selected" and find just the "inter-model" bonds. findhbond command: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/hbonds.html> findhbond GUI: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/findhbond/findhbon… > atom types: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/idatm.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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copy in a file the distance on the screen
by fabriceg＠univ-reunion.fr 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Dear Users, When analyzing a trajectory file, I would like to monitor a distance (or series of distances) and save it to a file for each frame (getting a time series). I can do it but the values remain on the screen only! I am sure there is a simple script for making this. Thanks for any answer. Best wishes. Fabriceg

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Sequence vs Sequence plot using minrms....
by Sergio Garay 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi all I run minrms with defaults values on my two proteins and I was able to obtain many useful alignments. But when I load the results on chimera, it doesn´t show me the sequence vs sequence plot. Is there any particular way to do that? Or there is any special minrms command (option) to obtain this? All the other plot were right (rms vs sequece and the alignment plot). Any help will be appreciated. -- Dr. Sergio Garay Facultad de Bioquimica y Cs. Biológicas Universidad Nacional del Litoral Santa Fe - Argentina C.C. 242 - Ciudad Universitaria - C.P. S3000ZAA Argentina Ph. +54 (342) 4575-213 Fax. +54 (342) 4575-221

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Match -> Align used with a pair of homodimers
by E. Merkley 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hello chimera friends: I am trying to get a structure-based sequence alignment for a pair of homologous proteins that are homodimers. If I proceed as described in the tutorial and in the 2006 BMC Bioinformatics paper, by first using Matchmaker, then using Match -> align, the Match -> Align fails to produce a reasonable alignment. The sequence identity from the Matchmaker output is 26.5%, but only 1.0 % from the Match -> Align step. If I delete the second monomer from each protein, Match -> Align works quite well. However, it seems like this alignment won't take into account any differences in the tertiary structure between the two proteins. That is, I think I want the global alignment of the whole dimer for the structural alignment, since the active sites is are at the interface. Any suggestions? I'm using version 1.2540, and my two proteins are PDB codes 1ds7 and 1nox (1nox dimer built from BIOMT matrix in Chimera and hand-edited to be 1 model with A and B chains). Thanks yet again, Eric

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Fwd: stereo view
by Francesco Pietra 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

It was a bad idea. What Jason initially suggested (save left-eye and right-eye) should work. What I have to manipulate images is only gimp, with which I am not very familiar. But it seems to have the capability of arranging the two saved files so as to get a stereo effect. There is even a (unofficial) plugin to remove unwanted space around. francesco ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] stereo view To: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Hi Elaine: That makes problems as the referee just wants a stereo view of details of the binding site, which requires magnifying the figure. Is it any way to save a pdb file of the magnified zone alone? (to start from there to build a stereoview). Of course, the normal pdb saving of a magnified figure saves the coordinates for the whole. The only way I can conceive to get the coordinates of the binding site, and nothing else, is manually deleting rows from the pdb file. A tricky route because the chains start and return to the starting point and the binding site is on both strands. thanks francesco On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > I guess you could also save separate left eye and right eye images and put > them farther apart. That might also mess up the stereo effect, though. > Elaine > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > >> Hi Francesco, >> There is a certain separation needed or else your eyes cannot form the >> stereo image. You could try zooming out so the atoms don't take up the >> whole window, or adjusting parameters in the Camera tool (under Tools -> >> Viewing Controls) but I usually don't mess with those camera parameters >> because you could disrupt the stereo viewing if you change them very much. >> Elaine >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> >>> Hi Elaine: >>> Is it any direct way to save stereoimages from magnified images? By >>> the normal route, the wall-eye couple of images are saved adjacent to >>> one another, with no space in between them. >>> >>> thanks >>> francesco >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Francesco, >>>> All of Jason's suggestions are good (thanks Jason!), and I only wanted >>>> to >>>> add a few things: >>>> >>>> (1) while the window will always be a rectangle, you could resize it so >>>> that >>>> there is a different ratio between height and width. If your long >>>> molecule >>>> is oriented across, you could resize the window to be less tall so that >>>> the >>>> width:height ratio is greater. Don't worry if the window is then >>>> filling >>>> less of your screen -- you can specify as high a resolution as you want >>>> in >>>> the File... Save Image dialog. Of course, with a given window size, you >>>> should scale up your molecule(s) to fill it as much as possible. In >>>> agreement with Jason, I think usually a white background is better than >>>> black for publication purposes. How to change background color is >>>> described >>>> near the top of the "Tips on Preparing Images": >>>> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/print.html#tips> >>>> >>>> (2) There is a section on saving stereo images near the bottom of that >>>> "Tips >>>> on Preparing Images" page (by the way, you can use "Help... Search >>>> Documentation" to look for help topics such as "stereo image"). I think >>>> journals usually show the "wall-eye" type of stereo, which can be >>>> achieved >>>> by saving one image in the wall-eye stereo mode, or by saving separate >>>> left >>>> and right views and placing them side by side with the left-eye view on >>>> the >>>> left and the right-eye view on the right. >>>> >>>> (3) just show the surface, adjust clipping and depth-cueing as Jason >>>> suggested, and use your artistic and scientific judgement as to whether >>>> it >>>> improves your image! There are additional suggestions for improving >>>> surface >>>> appearance in the "Tips on Preparing Images" page. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Elaine >>>> ----- >>>> Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab >>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry >>>> University of California, San Francisco >>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2009, at 2:04 PM, odonnell(a)chem.fsu.edu wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Francesco, >>>>> A couple of cents before the professionals respond with (very >>>>> likely) better ideas: >>>>> >>>>> In response to 1) Black is best for contrast but uses a lot of ink and >>>>> money. >>>>> White should be fine. >>>>> >>>>> n response to 2) If you go to TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=>CAMERA, you can >>>>> select various camera modes. CROSS-EYE stereo will put your chimera >>>>> graphic into cross-eye stereo. You can save an image as it is >>>>> displayed on the screen. But i find saving two images, stereo left eye >>>>> and stereo right eye better. Place these side by side in another >>>>> graphic program, (e.g Adobe illustrator) and voila, stereo viewing. >>>>> With two single images you can switch them around to alternate between >>>>> wall-eye and cross-eye. Also, with two images its easier to make the >>>>> distance between them a certain length, as journals are usually >>>>> stringent about how the stereo images are displayed. >>>>> >>>>> In response to 3)I'd to go TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=> SIDE VIEW and >>>>> slide the back and front yellow planes. This will create a slab >>>>> through your object removing other structural elements which might >>>>> complicate the image. Also, >>>>> try DEPTH CUEING under TOOLS=>VIEWING CONTROLS=> EFFECTS. tweak the >>>>> "start ratio and yon intensity to further remove emphasis on unwanted >>>>> objects. The Depth effects can make some really neat graphics >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> -Jason >>>>> >>>>> Quoting Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would greatly appreciate advice about the following requests >>>>>> (between "".."") by the referees (interaction between two proteins; >>>>>> graphics by chimera): >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) "there is way too much wasted black space in figures". >>>>>> >>>>>> As the complex of proteins is elongated along one axis, I found it >>>>>> unavoidable to have wasted space around. Perhaps using a white >>>>>> background in the hope that white is less offending than black? Or is >>>>>> it a way to tailor the background according to the shape of the >>>>>> object? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) "a stereoview might be helpful for better understanding". >>>>>> >>>>>> How to fulfill this request with chimera I have no idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) "a molecular surface representation of the docking site would be >>>>>> useful". >>>>>> >>>>>> I read on passing about molecular surfaces on this forum. Is that >>>>>> feasible for the highly complex situation of 3D perspective with so >>>>>> many atoms at different "layers"? >>>> >>>> >> > >

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Letter Reference for Amino Acid Atoms
by Sarah Himes 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hi, My name is Sarah Himes. I'm a graduate student at the University of Maryland. I'm researching alkaline phosphatase for an advanced course. I'm using the file 1ALK in Chimera. I'm pretty familiar with Chimera but I had a question regarding the letter notation of amino acid atoms when you scroll over them. Here are some examples: His370 (NE2) Ser102 (CB) Ser102 (N) Asp327 (OD1) Asp327 (OD2) Glu322 (OE2) My question is, what do the letters in parentheses mean, what do they correspond to? When these letters show up in Chimera, there are no parentheses. I look forward to hearing from you shortly. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Sarah Himes shimes(a)umd.edu 240-285-1251

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drawing parallelepiped
by Elaine Meng 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > For mono view figures, I wonder whether Chimera allows enclosing the > model in a parallelepiped. This would confer a sense of depth to a > very complex model (a complex of two proteins, partly in a lipidic > membrane. Hi Francesco, There are a few different possibilities: (a) make a PDB file with "atoms" at the corners and the desired bonds (described in CONECT lines), show as wire or stick. The Crystal Contacts tool uses that trick, but is unlikely to generate what you want in this case. You could try creating it interactively with markers and links using Volume Tracer, but probably just creating a PDB file in a text editor would be easier. (b) make a file in BILD format describing the parallelpiped outlines -- requires similar information as the above: coordinates of points at the corners and which points should be connected <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/bild.html> both (a) and (b) require you to figure out coordinates for the corners yourself... (c) a devious but easy way if you don't mind a rectangular box (all angles 90 degrees) is to use the "molmap" command to create a density map from the displayed atoms, but hide that map's contour surface and just show the box around it. For example, use the command: molmap @/display 2 <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/molmap.html> Then in the Volume Viewer dialog that appears, choose "Features... Data display options" and turn on "Show outline box" and also choose "File... Remove Surface." In that dialog you can also specify the color and linewidth of the outline. For conveying depth, you can also try adjusting the clipping planes in the Side View. If you put the back one closer to the atoms, the depth cueing "fog" will be more obvious. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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coloring the clipped surface
by Elaine Meng 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

On Feb 22, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Harinathachari Bahudhanapati wrote: > Dear Elaine, > Chimera is getting more exciting to work with than > ever. I think you guys are the best in the field. > About per-model clipping... > > When I tried, I was not able to find how to color the clipped plane > based on atom B-factors? I was able to give a color (single color) > only > but not based on atom B-factors or other attributes like SAS, SES, > electropotential. > I am not sure if modeled PDB files still have B-factor details. I saw > an image on the chimera website on the feature highlights (B-factor > coloring) and I wondered if I can get few more details on this > feature. > I am trying to make a few pictures for my paper. > Thank you elaine, > sincerely, > Hari > Dear Hari, Thanks for your kind words! Yes, there is a trick to coloring planar surface caps by B-factor or some other attribute, as in that figure: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/2gbp-bfactor.png> First, color the atoms by the attribute (Tools... Depiction... Render by Attribute), which would also color the actual molecular surface but not the planar cap where it is clipped. Then, select the atoms and use Color Zone (also under Tools... Depiction) to color the planar cap to match the nearby atoms. Render by Attribute: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/ render.html#render> Color Zone: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/colorzone/ colorzone.html> I've been wanting to write a tutorial on how to make that figure, but haven't had the time! I also increased the "mesh subdivision factor" in the Surface Capping dialog to 3. Coloring by electrostatic potential is different than coloring by an atom attribute. To color the planar cap by electrostatic potential, you would use Electrostatic Surface Coloring, but it requires a potential map previously created with some other program such as DelPhi. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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multiple coloring
by Anindito Sen 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Dear All Please share with me as how to put multiple color to several pdb structures docked in a density map. Best Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Re: [Chimera-users] defining a putative binding site
by Elaine Meng 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi Francesco, If you want detailed information about which atoms contact which, and the distances between them, use the "Find Clashes/Contacts" tool, or its command version "findclash", as discussed in several previous posts: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-November/ 003260.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/ 003163.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/ 003183.html> There are links in those posts to the manual pages and a tutorial with an example. Some of those discussions were about finding contacts for a ligand, but the findclash feature is general and can be used on whatever set of atoms/residues you want. Again, you can save results to a file or write them to the Reply Log. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi Elaine: > > By doing as indicate in your and my post, only residues (45 residues) > for model 0 (the bigger protein) are listed. Then I also commanded: > > sel #1:1701-1793 & 0:20,30-40,55 z<5 > > i.e., inverting the order of the two models. That gave a list of > residues (18 residues) for only model 1 (the smaller protein). > > Probably all that is useful information. But, is any way (one touch, > as above) to get information about which-to-which? > > I am not too lazy, I am prepared on the basis of the above two > listings, to use the zone command residue per residue, should this be > the way. > > (the numbers for the above residues are just for a split example; > actually I set all residues - even for areas that I knoe are not > involved - in the zone command for both proteins) > > Thanks > francesco >

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defining a putative binding site
by Francesco Pietra 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

Hi: I need to define a putative binding site for a smaller protein upon a larger one. The task is creating a table of likely interactions between residues of the larger proteinseparated by less than 5 A from those of the smaller protein. Deriving from molecular dynamics, all residues for both proteins are in the same pdb file, alongside lipid, water, etc. I wonder whether the most appropriate way is to separate in two different pdb files the lines belonging to the two different proteins. Then: sel #0:20,30-40,55 & #1:1701-1793 z<5 where "0" is the larger and "1" is the smaller protein. If OK, can the results be obtained in a table form? Thanks francesco pietra

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Re: [Chimera-users] color changes
by Elaine Meng 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jean-Paul Armache wrote: > hello, > i have one question concerning color manipulation in chimera. > every pdb file one opens gets a specific color (if set so). so, > having a few of them open, one can distinguish > between them color-wise. > now, when one selects the files, it is possible to change the color > via actions->color. this indeed changes all > of the things selected, and if the whole pdb was selected, all the > chains there. when one looks then into the > model panel, the old colors are still there - untouched. this would > be reasonable in the case when only parts > of the pdb were selected and re-colored. however if one selects > whole files and changes the colors - is it > possible to have these colors changed also in the model panel? and > is it possible to revert to the old color > once changed through this action menu? > > best regards, > jean-paul armache Hi Jean-Paul, It is because there is a coloring hierarchy: the Model Panel shows the model color, but you can also set atom colors, whichoverrule and hide the model color. As you found, Actions... Color and the "color" command set the atom colors (otherwise you would not be able to make different parts of the same model different colors). If you already colored the atoms of a model, you can "uncolor" some or all of them to reveal the model color using the command "~color". Another way is to choose "Actions... Color... from editor" and then click the "No Color" button in the Color Editor. (The Color Editor can be found in the menu under Tools... Utilities) You can change the model color with the command "modelcolor" or by clicking on the square color wells in the Model Panel to call up the Color Editor. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/coloring.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/hierarchy.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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surface view of large file in chimera
by G.-Q. Hu 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hello, I am trying to show a large file by surface view in chimera. But I found that the structure lost the detail and the surface was smoothed. I guess there is a sampling problem for large file. Is there any way to view the large file at the original resolution? Thanks. Guiqing

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Volume->Fit in Map question
by Keren Lasker 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

hello, Is there a way to fit a density map to a pdb rather than a pdb to a density map ? Or in other words, that in the end of the fitting procedure the map would move to best fit the model rather than the other way around. thank you, Keren Lasker.

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configuration file for chimera
by Bala subramanian 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Dear chimerians, Sorry if this question has been asked before. Where can i fix the default parameters for chimera. I explored the preferences option in favourites menu and set chose some preferences. In addition to that I want to the following like setting the color of carbon atoms as green as default setting the color of hydrogen atoms as white as default setting some macros setting the command line option when the chimera starts up (every time i go to favourites and click command line to invoke it) and other settings something like the configuration file used for vmd (.vmdrc ). Thanks in advance, Bala

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stereo view
by Francesco Pietra 17 Feb '09

17 Feb '09

Hi: I would greatly appreciate advice about the following requests (between "".."") by the referees (interaction between two proteins; graphics by chimera): 1) "there is way too much wasted black space in figures". As the complex of proteins is elongated along one axis, I found it unavoidable to have wasted space around. Perhaps using a white background in the hope that white is less offending than black? Or is it a way to tailor the background according to the shape of the object? 2) "a stereoview might be helpful for better understanding". How to fulfill this request with chimera I have no idea. 3) "a molecular surface representation of the docking site would be useful". I read on passing about molecular surfaces on this forum. Is that feasible for the highly complex situation of 3D perspective with so many atoms at different "layers"? Thanks indeed for answering francesco pietra

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Consurf .chimerax file under linux
by Boaz Shaanan 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera 3D labels
by Elaine Meng 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:53 AM, nettles wrote: > > Dear Elaine, > I'm thinking this should be possible, but don't know how to do it. > Can the labeling function in Chimera could be made more spacially > flexible? > > An example is below. The residue label coordinates are anchored to > a fixed 3D point that may, or may not be desirable for a given > view. Can this be adjusted? > > It looks like these references may be set at centroids. Maybe one > could have a toggle switch that sets the anchor projected a certain > distance from a C-alpha along the viewing vector. That might give > quick access unified text float-over > > Thanks again for such a great tool. > Jim [attachment removed by Elaine] Dear Jim, I am frequently irked by the same issue. Currently residue labels are anchored at the centroid of the displayed atoms, whereas sometimes it would look better if they were anchored at the alpha- carbon. I've previously created a bug report about this. Longer term we would also like them to be movable with the mouse, but that also can't be done currently. Here is the bug/request tracking info: http://socrates2.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/ticket/6866 http://socrates2.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/chimera/ticket/167 One current workaround is that you can label some particular atom in the residue with residue information. However, currently that atom must be explicitly displayed (won't work to label some backbone atom if ribbon is shown and suppresses that atom... which I've also complained about!). Commands to do that: labelopt info residue la @ca [or if ribbon is shown, "la @cb" instead if you can live without the glycine residue labels] I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Animating a C-alpha chain trace
by Tom Goddard 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

Hi Matt, A Python script can make a chain trace movie with density display that adds one residue at a time. I've attached an example script and movie. I used the today's Chimera daily build that has a nice 1-layer transparency option. That won't work in earlier Chimera versions. Tom Matthew Dougherty wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Over the last couple years I have moved my animation off the > SGI/IrisExplorer to Chimera/Amira. > > I have one piece of code on Explorer that I have not moved; attached > is a typical animation. > > what is being accomplished is a demonstration of the folding of a > protein based on c-alpha backbone and related density. > starting at the first residue, it proceeds by adding one residue at a > time. > > How would you suggest to move this to chimera? > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Trace C-alpha backbone adding one residue at a time and show simulated map. # pdb_path = '/usr/local/src/staff/goddard/pdb/pdb1fav.ent' resolution = 5.0 # Simulated density resolution, Angstroms map_color = (.6,.7,.8,.3) # red,green,blue,opacity. from chimera import runCommand # Open model from chimera import openModels as om m = om.open(pdb_path, 'PDB')[0] # Orient molecule runCommand('turn y 90') runCommand('turn x 30') # Color molecule and background runCommand('rainbow') runCommand('set bg_color white') # Create residue number label runCommand('2dlabel create rlab xpos 0.1 ypos 0.9') # Set display style. runCommand('repr stick #%d' % m.id) m.stickScale = 5.0 # Fatter sticks # Order residues by number and chain id. rlist = m.residues rlist.sort(key = lambda r: (r.id.position, r.id.chainId)) # Hide all atoms. for a in m.atoms: a.display = False # Show density adding one residue at a time. from MoleculeMap import molecule_map atoms = [] map = None for r in rlist: # Accumulate atoms from residue. atoms.extend(r.atoms) # Close previous map. if map: om.close([map]) # Make map. map = molecule_map(atoms, resolution, gridSpacing = .2*resolution, showDialog = False) map.set_parameters(surface_colors = [map_color], one_transparent_layer = True) map.show() # Display backbone atoms. for a in r.atoms: if a.name == 'CA': a.display = True # Update residue label text = 'chain %s residue %d' % (r.id.chainId, r.id.position) if r.isHelix: text += ' helix' elif r.isSheet: text += ' sheet' runCommand('2dlabel change rlab text "%s" color black' % text) # Draw one frame. runCommand('wait 1')

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Re: [Chimera-users] Command Line - Slecting Zone Parameters
by Elaine Meng 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Thiruvarangan Ramaraj wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to find all the atoms that lie within a certain > distance from a selected chains. I am able to do this by going to > select -> zone and giving the distance I want and selecting all the > atoms that met my criteria. I would like to do this on command > line. I am unable to figure it out. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You > Thiru Ramaraj Hi Thiru, The following command would select all residues with any atom within 4.5 angstroms of your current selection: select sel z<4.5 You could use "za" instead of "z" if you want an atom-based cutoff instead of whole residues, > instead of < to get the atoms farther away, and of course, a different distance. Also, you don't have to use selections. For example, this would color all atoms within 5 angstroms of chain A red: color red :.a za<5 Description of command-line zone specification: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/midas/ atom_spec.html#zones> More examples appear in various tutorials: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ attributes.html#part2> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ squalene.html#surfaces> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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maps handling
by Benoit Zuber 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Hi, I want to handle a large number of small density maps (around 1000 maps of approx 50x50x50 pixels). I need to group them (in around 5 groups). Then I need to treat all the maps of each group in a certain way. For example, I would like to change the level threshold for display, or the display style for every maps in a group at once. Also I would like to show or hide all maps of a group at once. The maps are not opened in an order related to their group. I remember someone recently suggested model 'folders' as a new functionality. Has this been incorporated in the latest versions of chimera? Even if it is the case, It would be too tedious to have to click on each individual model to assign it to a group. Similarly a simple command passed at the command line wouldn't be very elegant: I would have to write each volume number since they are unsorted. I suppose a python script would be much more appropriate. The script would have some functions to do tasks like those described above on each members of a group and a function to read group composition from a text file. I looked in chimera's programmer guide for a section on volume handling but I couldn't find much material on that. Did I miss it? What approach would you recommend? I guess I could use runCommand() but there are maybe better ways. Also the script would have to run in interactive mode. I suppose that IDLE would work for that purpose. How should I do that? Open IDLE and import my module? Where can you define the paths that chimera uses to look for packages? Thanks in advance! Ben -- Benoît Zuber MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology Hills Road Cambridge CB2 0QH United Kingdom +44 1223 402209 bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk

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examples of python scripts
by Bala subramanian 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Dear Chimerians, Can someone help me by providing examples of python scripts written for analyzing structures inside chimera. I have seen the chimera programmers guide but i need some more scripts written for different tasks to understand the way of accessing certain residues or atoms in a structure and extracting its attributes etc. Cheers, Bala

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making movies with CMM files
by Keren Lasker 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

hello, Is there a way to generate a movie out of a set of CMM files ( similar to MD Movie with PDB files)? thank you very much, Keren.

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Re: [Chimera-users] [chimera-dev] alias menu
by Eric Pettersen 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Richmond Timothy J. wrote: > Dear Chimera Developers, > > Perhaps I have missed it, but I would find a menu for selected > aliases very useful. Having returned to Chimera from PyMol recently, > it would be great to have an option for the alias command that > allowed the particular alias to be listed in a separate window and > ran the alias by clicking on the alias name listed there. > > Best regards, > > Tim Hi Tim, As Elaine pointed out in her reply, aliases are frequently used as shorthands for long atom specs rather than as replacements for complete commands. However, the form of the alias command that uses '^' (so that matching only occurs at the start of the line) typically is used to define full command aliases. So my thinking is this: aliases defined with the '^' character would be placed in an 'Aliases' top-level menu (created on the fly as needed). Such aliases would automatically be remembered across Chimera invocations (and populate an Aliases menu). The menu could be torn-off (except on Aqua) to make a stand-alone window. Those aliases could be deleted as normal with the ~alias command (which would remove them from the menu and no longer remember then in subsequent Chimeras). Would this be good enough? --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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script command for writing out areaSAS attribute?
by Julius Su 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

Hello, Does anyone know what script command could be used to output an "attribute assignment file" in Chimera, specifically for the areaSAS attribute? I am trying to show how the solvent accessible surface area on various residues changes over the frames of a multitrajectory PDB file. To do this I am trying to write a small script in "MD movie" that computes the solvent accessible surface for each frame, then outputs the areaSAS values. I was previously able to do this by loading in all the PDB geometries at once, then using the "Render attributes by ..." dialog, but this method does not scale well to very large proteins (the program runs out of memory trying to compute all the surfaces at once). Thus I am trying to do this task sequentially with a script. Thanks much! Julius

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Is it possible?
by Ahir Utsav Pushpanath 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hello Dear Sir/Madam, I am very fond of chimera, and everytime I have looked at scripts for doign things, I find that chimera has them already inbuilt as features. There is one particular problem that I am sure chimera has the capability of doing but I am struggling to do it. 1) I want to use structural superposition servers such as Mammoth etc to produce a structural alignment of two proteins, 2nadA and 1ybaB. However, some of these servers do not produce a sequence alignment output in a format compatible with chimera (i.e such as .aln or aligned fasta). But they do produce a .pdb file showing the superposition. 2) If I load the .pdb onto chimera, sometimes in "model list" window, i see the two proteins, wheras in others I only see 1 model(yet there is clearly 2 models there) 3) I was wondering whether you can load the superposition onto chimera, and see the sequence alignment that gives rise to that structural superposition, so that I may save it as a .aln format using multialign viewer. How do I do this? Apologies if this is a very straightforward scenario. Thanks Ahir

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roll command:
by Bui Khanh Huy 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Dear all, I tried the roll command with my model (EM map) open: roll z 30 1 center 50,50,50 Chimera showed msg "wait_frames argument not implemented". Just wonder how to implement that command without the error? Huy

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Calc buried surface area between 2 chains
by Tom Duncan 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

I saw an earlier post (Dec. 29, 2008; Digest vol. 68, issue 28) in which Elaine Meng described a procedure for calculating surface area for selected atoms. I did this for atoms on chain A that were selected as contacting atoms on neighboring chain B, but the sum(atom.areaSES) probably includes area buried within the chain A, not just between the 2 chains. I tried checking this by calculating the sum(atom.areaSES) for chain A (all atoms in A) in the whole model, then again for a model from which chain B was deleted before calculating the surface. However, the results indicated a larger areaSES for chain A in the absence of chain B! There were some errors reported in calculating the surfaces; perhaps this contributed. Is there a better way to calculate the buried surface on 1 chain due to contacts with a 2nd chain? Thanks, Tom Duncan

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error message
by Katherine Parra 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hello! I'm trying to get the hydrogen bonds between some selected residues during a trajectory, using per frame commands from tools. But when I get the possible hydrogen bonds formed between the selected residues I also get the following error message in the Reply Log: *Skipping possible acceptor with bad geometry: #0:2108@O Wrong number of grandchild atoms for phi/psi acceptor #0:2108@O *What could be happening? Thank you in advance. KP

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color zone on command line
by Giulia Zanetti 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Hi all, I would like to make a movie in which areas of my map are coloured while the surface is rotating. Any idea how to use color zone from the command line? thanks Giulia

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fit in map output : coordinate representation of axis, axis point
by Hwang, Youngha,Ph.D. 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, could anyone explain to me what axis points mean in chimera? What unit is used for them? Is it related to the volume dimension? Is the rotation matrix based on Euler-angle representation? Thanks, Youngha. The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.

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3D on Chimera.
by ayassin＠wadsworth.org 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hello, I am trying to use Chimera to model pdb files into EM maps. When I select the red cyan stereo, the EM map is stereo but the pdb structure is not. -Is there anyway to display pdb in stereo in Chimera, how? -Is there another program that would allow me to do the same thing: fit pdb in EM density map-in stereo(other than "O")? -When I use Chimera on windows VISTA the side view panel does not appear and a message about graphic card appear, anyway to solve this? Thank you all very much. Aymen Yassin. Postdoc Research Affiliate Wadsworth Center, Albany,NY. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.

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marker coordinates
by Gabor Papai 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, I would like to do the following: I placed markers on density spots. I want to get their coordinates and excise a box around the marked density and save it as a separate file. For this I would like to know how I can retrieve the coordinates of a marker set and possibly how to position exactly a box around a marker to set a subregion (and of course how to set the dimensions of that box). This second feature existed before, but disappeared in the latest releases with the subregion selection tool in the Volume Viewer. Thanks in advance, Gabor -- Gabor Papai IGBMC Department of Structural Biology and Genomics 1, rue Laurent Fries, BP 10142 67404 Illkirch, France phone +33-3-88655748 Fax +33-3-88653201 E-mail: papai(a)igbmc.u-strasbg.fr

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Volume information
by vamsee 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hello All, I am working on a virus and I am trying to figure out its volume. I would want to find out the volume of the nucleic acid and the water inside the virus capsid. That way, if I am thinking right, that should give me the total internal volume of the virus. This volume would be a constant even with the movement of water in and out. Is it possible to use chimera to calculate any of such data, with no prior information about how the nucleic acid is packed inside? Thanks in advance, Vamsee Graduate Student Dept of Chemistry and Biochemistry Montana State University Bozeman, MT - 59715

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suggested feature/model panel
by Matthew Dougherty 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

1) ability to create folders in the model panel so models can be grouped 2) ability to have a model in multiple folders 3) ability to show/hide in a folder by a a single checkbox 4) ability to name the folder

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How to display automatically the atoms in Gaussian cube file format
by Hyung Jun Lee 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Gaussian cube file formats include the information about each atom's positions as well as the volumetric data. But, Chimera only displays the volumetric data when importing the cube file format. I want to know how to display automatically the atoms whose positions is included in the cube file, together with the volumetric data.

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Mac 64-bit Chimera version
by Thomas Goddard 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi Denis, Conrad Huang in our lab tried building a 64-bit Mac Chimera several months ago. Many of the third-party packages we rely on failed to compile. We decided to pursue this only after Mac OS 10.6 is released. I believe the rationale of that was that Mac OS 10.5 is the oldest Mac OS that supports 64-bit graphical apps. We still support Mac OS 10.4 and our current automated build system targets 10.4. When 10.6 comes out we may target our builds to 10.5. Currently we only provide 64-bit Chimera on Linux. Tom Denis Chrétien wrote: > Dear Thomas, > > We were discussing some time ago about a 64 bit Mac version of Chimera. > Did you progress in this project ? (I'm still very limited for > visualization of large volumes with my mac, although its not a hardware > problem : 16 Gb Ram installed). > > Best regards, > > Denis > > Le 15 mai 08 à 18:41, Thomas Goddard a écrit : > >> Hi Denis, >> >> The Chimera error you reported means there was insufficient memory to >> compute the Fourier transform you wanted. I see from the report that >> your Mac has 18 Gbytes (wow). But our Mac Chimera version is a 32-bit >> program so its memory address space is only 4 Gbytes. In that 4 >> Gbytes has to fit not only data, but all shared libraries, program >> stack and (I think) operating system code. So really you might have >> just 3 Gbytes to work with. Also my Fourier transform code does a >> full complex value FT where it could do a real value FT taking half >> the memory. And the Python library that actually does the FT can only >> use double precision, so 16 bytes per complex value. More memory is >> used when Chimera takes just the magnitude of the FT coefficients. In >> short it is using 20 bytes per grid point. So a 512^3 FT will use 2.5 >> Gb, about the maximum that will fit in the 32-bit address space >> (assuming it isn't already fragmented by other data/libraries since >> you need a 2.5 Gb free block). >> >> We plan on fixing this. We plan on distributing a 64-bit Mac >> Chimera, and have tried compiling it. But some of the ~30 third-party >> libraries Chimera depends on did not compile. So we still need to >> work on that -- maybe within 3 months. Also I plan on making the FT >> code not such a hog, do a real FT and investigate 32-bit float FT >> values for a factor of 4 memory savings. For now your only option >> would be to use one of our 64-bit Chimera versions on Linux or Tru64 >> operating systems. >> >> Tom > > ___________________________ > Université de Rennes 1 > UMR 6026, équipe TIPs > Campus de Beaulieu, Bât. 13 > 35042 Rennes Cedex > France > > Tel. +33 (0)2 23 23 67 64 > http://www.umr6026.univ-rennes1.fr/ > ___________________________ >

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion
by Anindito Sen 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi Tom You are correct! The color dialog does appear as you mentioned! In addition - While using Chimera- the display window keeps flickering when I move the density map/pdb files. What can be a possible remedy to solve the problem? Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908 --- On Fri, 23/1/09, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion To: emailanindito(a)yahoo.co.in Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Date: Friday, 23 January, 2009, 11:35 PM Hi Andy, Sounds like a windowing system problem, not a Chimera problem. If you show the Surface Color dialog (Tools / Volume / Surface Color) and click on one of its color buttons, does the color dialog appear? Tom Anindito Sen wrote: > Dear All > > This may be a bit unusual problem- I am using Chimera (from Daily build) on Ubuntu mounted on my MAC using VMware Fusion (reason- some software packages that run only on LINUX and not on a MAC). The problem is - when I try to get the color panel by clicking on the color tab on the volume viewer- it does not appear. I am not sure if any of you have encountered such problem. > > Thanks > Andy > > > Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >

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need a script
by Bala subramanian 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Dear Chimerians, Kindly help me If anybody has a script to do the following. Given two pdb files, the script should calculate the vector distance between the atoms, say CA atoms and draw an arrow representing the magnitude and direction of the vector. Do i need to add some plugin to draw arrows through atoms in Chimera. Thanks in advance, Bala

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Chimera on Ubuntu mounted on MAC using VMware Fusion
by Anindito Sen 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Dear All This may be a bit unusual problem- I am using Chimera (from Daily build) on Ubuntu mounted on my MAC using VMware Fusion (reason- some software packages that run only on LINUX and not on a MAC). The problem is - when I try to get the color panel by clicking on the color tab on the volume viewer- it does not appear. I am not sure if any of you have encountered such problem. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Movie Recording
by skmolugu＠miners.utep.edu 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, I am having problems with movie recording. I saved the movie as .avi file and when I upload the movie in to a windows power point slide, it crashes or shows a dark cube. Can you please suggest me a possible solution for this.. Thank you very much for your time. Regards, Sudheer.

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Re: [Chimera-users] Movie Recording
by Sacha De Carlo 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, it sounds lime you're having problems with Windows & Powerpoint, not Chimera... can you play the movie correctly with media player or VLC? Do you have all the video codecs installed correctly? Did you check the Chimera temp directory to see whether the frames have been created? hope this helps. Sacha ------------------------------------------ Sacha De Carlo, Asst. Professor Marshak Building Room 1335 The City College of NY (212) 650-6070 E-mail: sdecarlo(a)ccny.cuny.edu http://www.planetesacha.com/Work.htm ------------------------------------------

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Higher order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Is it possible to assign colors by chain to the surfaces created my the multiscale models tool ? Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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transparency change for a whole model
by Neil Ranson 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Dear All, I am revisiting a movie I made in chimera some time ago with a painfully long script. In this script, I used a command syntax like this: transition transparency #0 0 0.1 1 copy file 'filename' To change the global transparency of model #0 (with lots of different elements all coloured and represented differently) This command seems to have disappeared. Is there an equivalent way now? The only way I can find is to use transparency in the colordef command, but that will be extremely cumbersome. What is the preferred way to fade a model in and out now? Thanks in advance, Neil Ranson Neil Ranson PhD Level 2 Biochemistry Tutor University Research Fellow Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology IMCB University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK. EM Image Processing Suite - Miall 6.02 Tel: 44 (0) 113 343 7065 email: n.a.ranson(a)leeds.ac.uk

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command files
by Matthew Dougherty 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

I have a command file that has a number of reset commands. I would like to 1) interrupt a command file during execution, aborting all further commands, stopping the graphics configuration at the abort (e.g. threshold values, active models, etc) 2) be able to place a hold in a command file, say after the a reset command, and be able to continue the command processing after pressing a key on the keyboard. Does this capability exist? thanks, Matt

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Coulombic Surface Coloring
by Martin Kampmann 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hello, I saw on the Chimera online manual that there is a Coulombic Surface Coloring function, which displays an approximate electrostatic potential without having to calculate a file with delphi etc. This sounds great and I would love to use the function. However, in the Tools > Surface/Binding Analysis menu, I don't find it. Is it something to be implemented in future versions of Chimera? Or is there a way of using it in the current release (I have version 1.3 build 2577 from December 9) Thanks a lot! Martin

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marginal issues on installation (linux)
by Francesco Pietra 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

hi: replaced hd, installed chimera-1.3.2577-linux.exe on debian i386 lenny ok, though i have to give the full path /usr/local/chimera/bin/./chimera to launch chimera. notice that the directory /chimera is chown to me as user. with previous versions and debian i386 etch (last installation daily built 17 Sept 2008), execution of chimera from anywhere was provided on installation. never mind, are there available env variables for the executable? thanks francesco pietra

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Matchmaker
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Is it possible to retrieve the transformation matrix (or angle of rotation and translation) that the Matchmaker tool used to align two atomic models ?. I know that you can get this information when fitting an atomic model into a density map using the tool Fit in Map and then pressing the Results button. Is there anything similar for the MatchMaker tool ?. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] Protskin
by Elaine Meng 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Patton, John (NIH/NIAID) wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > Do you have any information concerning using Protskin in conjunction > with > Chimera? The only information I have come across applies to PyMol. > Thanks, > John Hi John, I haven't tried Protskin, but my understanding is that its purpose is to map conservation in a multiple sequence alignment to protein display. (Protskin page: <http://www.mcgnmr.ca/ProtSkin/intro/> ) Chimera itself can (A) read your multiple sequence alignment (many formats, just use File... Open) (B) calculate any of several measures of conservation (entropy, variability, etc.) - in the sequence window menu, choose Preferences... Analysis, set "Conservation style" to "AL2CO" to access further options for calculating conservation, which is shown as a histogram above the alignment <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multalignviewer/mu… > (C) show them on your structure(s) with any color mapping you desire, or with "worm" thickness - any open structure(s) will associate automatically with sequence(s) in the alignment - in the sequence window menu, choose Structure... Render by Conservation, change attribute to "mavConservation" and show with color or worms <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/render/render.html… > Example image, 1bzm colored by conservation in PFAM Carb_anhydrase seed alignment: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/1bzm-al2co-highlight.png > This tutorial includes coloring by conservation: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/super.html> Back to ProtSkin: ----------------- It sounds like ProtSkin emits some file listing the residues and associated values. Certainly you could reformat that into a Chimera "define attribute" file, read it in, and then show the values as in (C) above. Since Chimera already performs the preceding steps quite well and with many powerful options, there hasn't been much impetus to hooking it up to ProtSkin. However, I don't see any barrier other than your needing to convert the output file into the simple "define attribute" format described here: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/defineattrib/defin… > Getting a sequence alignment: ----------------------------- Perhaps you didn't already have a sequence alignment, and find ProtSkin to be helpful in generating one. There are many alternative approaches. For example, the ConSurf server does a great job of automatically generating an alignment of a diverse set of sequences related to your single uploaded structure. (ConSurf server: <http://consurf.tau.ac.il/> ) There are more ideas in this page I wrote on "sources of sequence alignments" for use in Chimera: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/sources.html> I would be happy provide more detailed help on using Chimera to color by conservation as it applies to your system of interest, i.e. feel free to write back. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Rotating about an axis
by Thomas Goddard 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hi Kevin, The command "turn x 23" will rotate active models about the screen x axis by 23 degrees. The command "turn 1,1,0 180 center 0,2.5,2.5 coord #1 models #1" rotates just model #1 by 180 degrees about axis 1,1,0 defined in the local coordinates of model #1 about center point 0,2.5,2.5 also in model #1 local coordinates. The fancier forms of the turn command are only in Chimera 1.4 daily builds. http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/turn.html You align multiple structures by aligning them all to one reference structure. You can align specific residues with the "match" command: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/match.html Do do a sequence based structure alignment look at the MatchMaker tool or command: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/matchmaker/matchma… Best to send questions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu. Tom Kevin Koehntop wrote: > Hi Tom, > > In Chimera, how do you rotate a structure along an axis by X degrees? > How is the specific axis selected? Finally, is it possible to align > multiple structures (e.g. their tops, bottoms, centers, etc.)? Thank you > > Kevin

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Docking crystal structure in density map
by Anindito Sen 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Dear All I have docked the crystal structure of a protein monomer manually in the density map ( of a filament) and with some movements done with a long alpha helix(part of the crystal structure) to make a decent fit. However when I generated multiple copies of the docked structure- regions where manual adjustments on the alpha helix were made- came out like thin wires instead of being a ribbon. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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chimera on fedora10
by Bala subramanian 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hello, I installed chimera on fedor10. The installation was done but when I try to open, it gives me the following error. How should i resolve the problem python2.5: can't open file '/usr/local/share/checkOpenGL.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory Thanks, Bala

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Saving a Morph movie
by R. Andrew Byrd 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Greetings, I have been trying to use the Morph tool in the production release from summer 2008. The tool works very well and allows playing the trajectory in the graphics window. However, when I try to save the file as a movie, it consistently crashes. I am running Win XP SP3, on a Dell M1330 laptop. It has also crashed on a Dell desktop running XP SP3. Are there special tricks to saving the movie for use in a Powerpoint presentation? Thanks for any help/suggestions! Andy -------------------------------------------------

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Coloring bonds/sticks independent of the atom color
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Is it possible to color bonds / sticks independent of the atoms so that I could have colored balls corresponding to atom types but have all the sticks connecting the balls/atoms to be a different color or colors. Thanks again, Dave

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precise overlay of ligands
by David Chenoweth 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear Chimera team, Hi! I have two ligands in two different PDB files which have a very similar core structure. I have constructed a framework of dummy atoms based on the centroids of several aromatic rings to use as a positioning system for the two ligands. I have three points/dummy atoms for each ligand in space in their respective pdb files and I would like to overlay or map the three points of one onto the three points of the other so I can make measurements in chimera. Is there a simple way to open the two pdb files, select the three points that belong to each ligand and overlay them (maybe even minimize the rms deviation between them with some kind of fit to the plane defined by the three points). I can do this by hand and get them close but not exact. I would also like to be able to calculate the rms deviation between similar atoms in the core structure if possible. Thanks in advance, Dave Chenoweth ********************************************** David M. Chenoweth California Institute of Technology Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering Mail Code: 164-30 1200 California Boulevard, 91125 Pasadena California, USA Phone: 626-395-6074 Email: dchen(a)caltech.edu **********************************************

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Re: [Chimera-users] Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Elaine Meng 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hi Virginia, I definitely tried it myself before sending the message, but in a much newer version (daily build Jan 9, 2009!). However, I just now tried it in both 1.2540 and the most recent production release 1.3 (Dec 2008), and in both of those versions the command works either with or without the pound signs (#). The error message sounds like you have additional models besides the DNA structure with model number 0. If so, I think the command would work if you close those, use sym, and then reopen or regenerate them as possible. You may want to update to a newer version to get other new features, but my experiments suggest it will not affect this particular problem. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Virginia Pett wrote: > Elaine, > Thanks for the fast reply! > > I had tried what you suggested. > sym #0 #0 > and just now I tried > sym 0 0 > and generated error message: > Multiple models with id: 0 > > I am using Chimera ver 1.2540 and perhaps the problem is that I need > to update the software? > > Virginia

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Generating symmetry-related molecule
by Virginia Pett 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I am trying to display PDB file 2O1I, which is a DNA structure. I would like to generate the biological macromolecule with 2 strands of DNA, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to do this. The PDB file has BIOMT records in it and I thought I could use the sym command to generate the other strand of DNA. What do I use for the refmol? Is there a tutorial on this topic? Virginia _______________________________ Virginia B. Pett Professor of Chemistry The College of Wooster 943 College Mall Wooster, OH 44691-2363 voice: 330-263-2114 fax: 330-263-2386

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"Extra" hydrogens in Dockprep and addH steps
by CHIU,YEUNG 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Dear colleagues and friends, I notice that during "Tools -> Dockprep" and "Tools -> addH" steps Chimera sometimes will automatically add hydrogens to the positions considered necessary by the program itself. However, these positions do not always really have these hydrogens imposed on them. One situation is when I added hydrogen to the molecule containing nitrogen with lone-pair electrons, Chimera added hydrogen to the position of this lone-pair. One other situation is in the disulfide bond. It seems that Chimera can not recognize the disulfide bond, so hydrogen is added to each of the thiol group, which is obviously inappropriate. I'm wondering what causes these situations and how users can prevent them happening. Any help is appreciated. If you coincidently encountered with similar situation, I'm glad to hear your story as well~ Happy new year and best wishes to your research! Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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Changes after 1.3
by Jon Rumbley 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I noticed you were going to remove the DelPhi interface after Chimera ver 1.3. I have used this interface to generate electrostatic surfaces in Chimera for both teaching and research, will there be something replacing it? Thank you, Jon Rumbley Dr. Jon N. Rumbley Assistant Professor Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry/ Dept. of Pharmaceutical Sciences University of Minnesota-Duluth 253C SSB 1035 Kirby Dr. Duluth, MN 55812 Phone: 218-726-7423 email: jrumbley(a)d.umn.edu

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Higher Order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I have another related question: If I were to deposit a PDB coordinates file of a helical structure, what would be the best place to put helical symmetry information (the file includes the full coordinates for only one asymmetric unit) so that chimera can generate a model with more than one asymmetric unit ?. The idea being to be able to see the contacts between asymmetric units and the symmetry of the complex. Should I use the the SMTRY, or the MTRIX entries ?. Does it make any difference in chimera ?. Thanks Hernando . -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Higher order
by hsosa＠aecom.yu.edu 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hi, Is it possible to use the tools in: Higher Order Structures > Multiscale Models to generate full atomic models (with atoms and all the display capabilities of chimera) from the symmetry entries in the PDB file (SMTRY entries) ? So far I been able to produce only a rough surface representation of the symmetry related molecules. Thanks Hernando -- ----------------------------------- Hernando Sosa Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Av. Bronx NY 10461 phone (718) 430-3456 FAX (718) 430-8819 email hsosa(a)aecom.yu.edu -----------------------------------

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Re: [Chimera-users] delphi
by Elaine Meng 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Hi everybody, I'm happy to report that Chimera (version 1.4 builds Jan 8, 2009 and later) can now read electrostatic potential maps from the Intel Mac version of DelPhi provided by the Honig lab as of mid-2008: <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements> The problem was that part of the potential file was written in double precision. Their group may be updating that executable so that it does not write double precision, but either way, the newer builds of Chimera will be able to read the maps. This does not solve the problem Darren was having, I assume using a PPC Mac rather than an Intel Mac. The PPC Mac version of DelPhi from the Honig lab still requires certain library files that I don't think are freely available. The Honig web site (URL above) does mention this issue. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > Hi Darren, > Unfortunately it is an unsolved problem getting a pre-made delphi > executable for Mac OSX that gives results that can be shown in > Chimera. Just to clarify for everybody, DelPhi is a program freely > provided by another group, but without official support. > > I went through several weeks of trying to get an older executable from > the Honig site to work, installing various files myself just as you > have. Here is the chimera-users message where I describe running up > against this wall: > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2006-November/ > 001113.html >> > > I reported these problems to the Honig group, and some months later > (July 2008) they updated their Mac OSX Intel executable so it does not > require these additional libraries. Maybe you downloaded an > executable before that time or have a PPC Mac rather than Intel. > Honig group DelPhi download page: > <http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/ > Software:DelPhi_System_Requirements >> > > However, although the Intel executable runs nicely and can be > controlled by DelPhiController, something about the map format changed > and Chimera cannot read the result. We were unable to get information > from the Honig lab on how the format changed, or even reverse-engineer > the changes given our example maps. There is nothing else we can do - > it is a limitation recorded in our database as problem report #6228.

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question about measuring volume via command line and the nogui option
by Bruno Villoutreix 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Dear Chimera Users i am new to chimera, is it possible using something like: chimera --nogui open myfile.mol2 and then i would like to measure the area and volume...but i am not sure which command to use. I can get the surface with this command but to get the volume, i have to use the graphic interface, i do not see either the name of the command in the command history list... thanks if you can give me some advices Bruno

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problem with new release
by Lionel Nauton 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

hi all, I don't know if everyone else have this problem, but i 'm not able to use the last release of chimera (chimera-1.3.2577-linux.exe <https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/cgi-bin/chimera-get.py?file=linux/chimera-1.3.2577…>) installation script works well, but when I try to start the program, i have a black screen , and my session shutdown and restart, it seems that chimera fall down my Xorg. I'm working on PC linux ( X86_64), but i used the 32 bits version of chimera, ( test with X86_64 version give the same result), my pc linux work with fedora 10 , i have no problem with chimera-1.3.2540-linux.exe thanks per advance for your answer ================================================= NAUTON Lionel Ingénieur d'études. Laboratoire de Synthèse Et Etude de Systèmes à Intérêt Biologique UMR6504 : université Blaise Pascal – CNRS 24, avenue des Landais – Campus des Cézeaux 63177 AUBIERE Cedex France Tel : 04 73 40 55 06 mèl : lionel.nauton(a)univ-bpclermont.fr <mailto:lionel.nauton@univ-bpclermont.fr> site web : http://seesib.univ-bpclermont.fr/site_web/pageaccueil.htm <http://seesib.univ-bpclermont.fr/site_web/pageaccueil.html> =================================================

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delphi
by Darren Thompson 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

I installed the ibm compiler libraries on Mac OSX tiger, but delphi still does not see them Applications System Folder mach.sym Applications (Mac OS 9) TheVolumeSettingsFolder mach_kernel Desktop (Mac OS 9) Trash opt Desktop DB Users private Desktop DF Volumes sbin Desktop Folder automount sw Developer bin tmp Documents cores usr Library dev var Network etc System mach the opt folder (ibm) is there. I did a symbolic link to the Mac OSX executable in the /usr/local/ release1.1/exe directory to /usr/bin/delphi, downloaded the example files from delphi's website, [psb-232-45:release1.1/examples/example_1] darren% delphi param_1 dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/ibmcmp/lib/libxlf90.dylib Referenced from: /usr/bin/delphi Reason: image not found Trace/BPT trap when I try directly [psb-232-45:local/release1.1/exe] darren% ./delphiMacOSX dyld: Library not loaded: /opt/ibmcmp/lib/libxlf90.dylib Referenced from: /usr/local/release1.1/exe/./delphiMacOSX Reason: image not found Trace/BPT trap Does it matter that it's looking for /libxlf90.dylib and I have / libxlf90.A.dylib? Have some xmas charity Help a newb Darren Thompson Graduate Student UCSC 1156 High St. Santa Cruz, CA 95064 831-459-3390 voice 831-459-2395 fax http://people.ucsc.edu/~ministry

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Motivational Posters, Demotivators
by Breann Crenshaw 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Rofl Motivational Posters http://www.roflposters.com

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera - calculating surface area?
by Elaine Meng 29 Dec '08

29 Dec '08

On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Uli Strych wrote: > Hi Dr. Meng, > I would like to calculate the surface exposed area of only the > hydrophobic amino acid residues for my protein of interest. > I saw your email (at > http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/message-new?2008+03+07+013+raw ) where > you explain how to do so using Chimera. > My problem is the "Attribute Calculator" step, where I don't seem to > be able to find the correct format of entering the formula to > calculate the surface area of the residues that I have previously > selected in the Render/Select menu. Hi Uli, Another necessary step is to show the surface (which creates the surface area values): command "surface" or menu "Actions... Surface... show". You could do that for the whole protein before selecting the residues, or just for the selected residues, either way is fine. That will assign values for the residue attributes named areaSES (solvent-excluded surface area) and areaSAS (solvent- accessible surface area). Then in "Attribute Calculator" you would Calculate attribute [some name, doesn't matter] for [models] Formula: sum(residue.areaSES) with these options checked on: "Restrict formula domain to current selection, if any" (only sum over the selected residues, not all residues) "Open Render/Select by Attribute" (because this dialog will show the answer, the sum value) You want a "models" attribute because you want only one number, the sum over the selected residues. Click Apply (or OK, which would also dismiss the calculator dialog) to calculate the value and show it in the Render/Select by Attribute dialog. Of course, you could use areaSAS instead of areaSES as you prefer. The SES is probe contact and re-entrant surface, and is shown in Chimera. The SAS is where the probe center goes, about 1.4 Angstrom farther out from the molecule, not shown in Chimera. Attribute Calculator manual page: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/calculator/calcula… > This tool is also used in the Attributes tutorial, part 2: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/attributes.html#p… > I hope this helps! Best regards, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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transparent background error
by odonnell＠chem.fsu.edu 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hi, I can't find a previous entry in the archives for an error message i receive when i impose a transparent background. As soon as i read in a map i receive this: Runtime error! ProgramC:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\pythonw.ese R6025 -pure virutal function call Hitting OK I receive... Chimera failed abnormally; the exit code was:255. Thanks in advance for any advice!!!! -Jason ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Still having connection problems with Internet...
by Kenward Vaughan 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hi all, I wrote in once about this, and have only slowly paid attention to it due to busy schedules, kids, etc. I have build # 2576, and the darned thing pesters me for registration ;-) and still cannot connect for DL'ing PDB's from the data bank. I have no proxy server, and this issue did not exist in earlier versions (I'm uncertain how long ago, to be honest... within a year, I believe). The usual error notice shows up on attempted registration, and fetch attempts give a socket error about a service being unknown: Error reading 1d66: Error during PDB fetch: [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known') All other Internet apps I have work well. What else can I try to clear this up? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca

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ubuntu graphics problem
by Elaine Meng 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Fabian reports a Chimera/ubuntu problem and a solution: Begin forwarded message: > > Hi Elaine, > > To save people painful dealing with the newest version of ubuntu, > 8.10, if everybody asks you, chimera has an incompatibility with the > "desktop effects" and "compiz" effects of this version. The only > solution I found (after two days of trials) is to remove compiz (apt- > get remove compiz) and completely disallow the desktop effects > (through system settings). > > Best regards, > Fabian > >> Something more urgent, I have recently updated my kubuntu system to >> 8.10, and the nvidia graphics card to nvidia-glx-177 (177.80 to be >> precise) which should be the correct one. The problem is that after >> a few seconds of working with some molecule in the chimera window >> (which opens fine), it gets stuck and works very very slowly if at >> all. That is a problem since I use chimera very heavily. Any hint >> you could give me of how to solve the problem would be invaluable. >> Just to mention that I have heard of problems with this version of >> kubuntu, but surely there is a workaround. >>

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anti-aliasing in mac version
by Grigore Pintilie 22 Dec '08

22 Dec '08

If I'm not mistaken it looks like anti-aliasing is not used in the mac build of chimera... is there a way to enable this? I'm using a Macbook pro with the nvidia card and Mac os X. Greg

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NMR-Style structures
by Eric Pettersen 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Huang, Shengyou wrote: > Is any way for Viewdock in Chimera to open a pdb file with NMR-style > structures so that I can view those NMR-style structures one by one? Yes, you can use ViewDock for that. When ViewDock asks you what the file type is, choose either "Dock 3 or 3.5", "Dock 3.5.x single", or "Dock 4, 5 or 6". Then the normal ViewDock interface will come up. There won't be much information in the various fields because an NMR PDB file doesn't have the embedded information that a DOCK output file does, but nonetheless you can click through the list of structures like normal. Another possibility is to open the NMR file as a trajectory (MD/ Ensemble Analysis->MD Movie) and play through the conformations that way. You could also use other analysis capabilities of the MD Movie tool, such as the RMSD map function. You might also want to try out the Ensemble Cluster tool, which will cluster your NMR ensemble and let you look at representative structures from each cluster. It sounds like you have a lot of conformations, so the Ensemble Match (compare your N structures in an NxN table) and Tile Structures (show all the conformations at once tiled in a grid on the screen) are probably not as useful as they would be for smaller ensembles. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Stereo view
by Eric Pettersen 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Huang, Shengyou wrote: > Another question is how to see a stereo view of a structure in > Chimera. Do I need a pair of special glasses for that? You can use the Camera tool (Stereo) to make Chimera show either a cross- or wall-eyed stereo view. You don't need special glasses to use those modes, but you do need to be able to cross or unfocus your eyes (respectively) to get the two images to merge. Some people have difficulty doing that. The other stereo modes mentioned on the page I linked to do require special glasses, and are described in detail on that page. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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info about energy in the minimize module
by Bruno Villoutreix 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Hello not sure this is the right place to ask... when running minimization in Chimera, do you have a window that show the energy values before and after the process ? or should this be done via a terminal window using the nogui option ? maybe the info is here around but could not find it so far many thanks Bruno

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possibilities to save parts of models (selection)?
by Sebastian Kruggel 17 Dec '08

17 Dec '08

Hi all, is there a simple way to save incomplete models (eg the current selection)? The write command seems to work only with complete models and not with atomic specifications and the split command does only give me the possibility to split complete chains. Probabaly I just don't see something *very* easy... Thanks for help! Sebastian -- Sebastian Kruggel Institut für Pharmazie Bundesstr. 45 | Raum 112 D 20146 Hamburg Tel +49(0) 40 42838 3626

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Eric Pettersen 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:43 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Eric, > Thank you very much for the ellipsoid script! I really appreciate > your help and I think this will do the trick for now. I have been > learning some python on my own and I was wondering if you have some > good beginner examples of scripts for making geometrical shapes, > changing size and color, orientation, etc. that work in chimera. Hi David, You can show cones, arrows, boxes, and a variety of simple geometric shapes by opening a BILD format file in Chimera: BILD format. It may be a little awkward having a script write a temporary file, so instead you can use a StringIO object, as described here: [Chimera-users] BILD object question You can also use the 'shape' command to draw spheres, cylinders, and icosahedrons. You can run any Chimera command from Python by using Chimera's 'runCommand' function, e.g.: from chimera import runCommand runCommand("shape sphere center ligand color dodger blue radius 25") Feel free to ask more questions! --Eric

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Tom Goddard 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hi David, Ok I see now, it's a matter of choosing the size of each ellipsoid to have a 50% chance of finding the atom in that volume. This shouldn't be too hard but I'll let Eric tackle it if he has time. Tom David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Here is the description of the thermal ellipsoids and option to change > the probability lavel from the Raster3D page. > > -prob Plevel > By default, isosurfaces are drawn to enclose the 50% probability > level in the probability density function described by the Uij values > in the ANISOU record. The -prob option allows you to select a > different probability level instead. If 0<Plevel<1 this value is > interpreted as a fraction; if Plevel > 1 this value is interpreted as > a percent. > > http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/raster3d/html/rastep.html > > -Dave > > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> By probability level do you mean occupancy? You could change the >> script to show only atoms with > 50% occupancy by changing: >> >> for a in atoms: >> perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) >> >> to >> >> for a in atoms: >> if a.occupancy > 0.5: >> perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) >> >> Tom >> >> >> David Chenoweth wrote: >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> Thanks for the script and all the help. The script works great, but >>> I was just wondering if there is a way to set a probability level >>> (50%)? >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Dave >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: >>> >>>> The script for drawing aniosotropic b-factor ellipsoids makes uses >>>> 1280 triangles per ellipsoid surface which slows down your graphics >>>> for cases with more than 1000 ellipsoids. You can reduce the >>>> "subdivision_levels = 3" in the script to "subdivision_levels = 1" >>>> to use just 80 triangles, or to a value of 2 for 320 triangles. >>>> The number of triangles controls how smooth the ellipsoid looks (T >>>> = 20 * 4^S, S = subdivision_levels). >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Pettersen wrote: >>>>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chimera team, >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved >>>>>> problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display >>>>>> anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. >>>>>> Our small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is >>>>>> starting to use Chimera and I think small molecule >>>>>> crystallography labs in general would use Chimera more if this >>>>>> feature were available. I do have to admit that I am interested >>>>>> in this feature for selfish reasons. I am using Chimera for >>>>>> several publications and for the graphics in my thesis which, has >>>>>> to be finished in the next couple of weeks, and I would really >>>>>> like to use this feature. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> Yes, reading/preserving the ANISOU info lays the groundwork for >>>>> eventually showing anisotropic ellipsoids. There's still a lot of >>>>> work to go before showing the ellipsoids becomes a usable feature >>>>> of Chimera. It might make it into our next release (middle of >>>>> next year) and it might not. As a stopgap, I've attached a script >>>>> that will show ellipsoids for any currently selected atoms. You >>>>> can run it by simply using File->Open or the "open" command. The >>>>> first two lines of the script control the size and color of the >>>>> ellipsoids, so change them if you like. The script leverages some >>>>> code that Tom Goddard wrote for showing principal axes of inertia >>>>> as an ellipsoid. >>>>> Good luck with the thesis! >>>>> >>>>> --Eric >>>>> >>>>> Eric Pettersen >>>>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chimera-users mailing list >>>>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >

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making ribbon representaiton
by Bala subramanian 13 Dec '08

13 Dec '08

Hello all, I have a pdb file of a RNA duplex containing only the Phosphate atoms. How to make chimera to draw the ribbon representation. This is possible in vmd by using Tube as graphic style but i want to know if i can make it in Chimera too. Bala

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length of a curved alpha helix
by Anindito Sen 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Dear All I was wondering as how can I measure the length of "curved" alpha helix. Thanks Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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problems before even getting to the plate...
by Jon Kenniston 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Howdy, Trying to run latest Chimera release version 1.3.2577 on my OSX 10.4.11 with X11 version 1.1.3 and while the chimera program opens, I cannot open a PDB (or at least I can't see the opened PDB - no error message, and bottom left of chimera screen states "Opened XXX.pdb" for about a minute until it goes to blank). Should I try installing an older version of chimera? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jon

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Re: [Chimera-users] (Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by Tom Goddard 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Hi David, By probability level do you mean occupancy? You could change the script to show only atoms with > 50% occupancy by changing: for a in atoms: perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) to for a in atoms: if a.occupancy > 0.5: perMol.setdefault(a.molecule, []).append(a) Tom David Chenoweth wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for the script and all the help. The script works great, but I > was just wondering if there is a way to set a probability level (50%)? > > Thanks again, > Dave > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Tom Goddard wrote: > >> The script for drawing aniosotropic b-factor ellipsoids makes uses >> 1280 triangles per ellipsoid surface which slows down your graphics >> for cases with more than 1000 ellipsoids. You can reduce the >> "subdivision_levels = 3" in the script to "subdivision_levels = 1" to >> use just 80 triangles, or to a value of 2 for 320 triangles. The >> number of triangles controls how smooth the ellipsoid looks (T = 20 * >> 4^S, S = subdivision_levels). >> >> Tom >> >> >> Eric Pettersen wrote: >>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, David Chenoweth wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Chimera team, >>>> >>>> It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved >>>> problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display >>>> anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. Our >>>> small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is starting >>>> to use Chimera and I think small molecule crystallography labs in >>>> general would use Chimera more if this feature were available. I do >>>> have to admit that I am interested in this feature for selfish >>>> reasons. I am using Chimera for several publications and for the >>>> graphics in my thesis which, has to be finished in the next couple >>>> of weeks, and I would really like to use this feature. >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> Yes, reading/preserving the ANISOU info lays the groundwork for >>> eventually showing anisotropic ellipsoids. There's still a lot of >>> work to go before showing the ellipsoids becomes a usable feature of >>> Chimera. It might make it into our next release (middle of next >>> year) and it might not. As a stopgap, I've attached a script that >>> will show ellipsoids for any currently selected atoms. You can run >>> it by simply using File->Open or the "open" command. The first two >>> lines of the script control the size and color of the ellipsoids, so >>> change them if you like. The script leverages some code that Tom >>> Goddard wrote for showing principal axes of inertia as an ellipsoid. >>> Good luck with the thesis! >>> >>> --Eric >>> >>> Eric Pettersen >>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >

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(Thermal ellipsoids) anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids
by David Chenoweth 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Dear Chimera team, It looks like preserving PDB ANISOU in Chimera is now a solved problem and I was just wondering if the ability to display anisotropic temperature factor ellipsoids would be added soon. Our small molecule lab and molecular observatory at Caltech is starting to use Chimera and I think small molecule crystallography labs in general would use Chimera more if this feature were available. I do have to admit that I am interested in this feature for selfish reasons. I am using Chimera for several publications and for the graphics in my thesis which, has to be finished in the next couple of weeks, and I would really like to use this feature. Thanks in advance, Dave Chenoweth ********************************************** David M. Chenoweth California Institute of Technology Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering Mail Code: 164-30 1200 California Boulevard, 91125 Pasadena California, USA Phone: 626-395-6074 Email: dchen(a)caltech.edu **********************************************

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drawing a symmetry axis
by Philip Wurm 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Hi, i have a protein dimer and i would like to show the symmetry axis. I found a script in this mailing list: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/003140.html which works quite nice. But i would like to have a nicer representation of my symmetry axis, not this two slabs. Just a line or thin rod would be nice. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Philip

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Re: [Chimera-users] problems before even getting to the plate...
by Jon Kenniston 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

Thanks guys, I have it working now. The problem was with the specific type of PDB I was using. Incorrect info from a labmate... Jon On Dec 12, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Tom Goddard wrote: > I also tried 1.3 on a PPC Mac 10.4.11 desktop in the lab and it > correctly displayed PDB files. > > Tom > > Elaine Meng wrote: >> Hi Jon, >> I just tried Chimera Mac/X11 version 1.3 build 2577 on a Mac >> laptop, OS 10.4.11 along with X11 1.1.3, and was able to open >> various PDB files (local and fetched from the RCSB) and manipulate >> them. Must be something else in the details of your system - >> perhaps it will be evident from the information that comes with >> the bug report. >> Best, >> Elaine >> >> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Greg Couch wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jon Kenniston wrote: >>> >>>> Howdy, >>>> >>>> Trying to run latest Chimera release version 1.3.2577 on my OSX >>>> 10.4.11 with X11 version 1.1.3 and while the chimera program >>>> opens, I >>>> cannot open a PDB (or at least I can't see the opened PDB - no >>>> error >>>> message, and bottom left of chimera screen states "Opened XXX.pdb" >>>> for about a minute until it goes to blank). Should I try >>>> installing >>>> an older version of chimera? Any help would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>> Please use the Help / Report a Bug dialog to get this bug into our >>> bug >>> database. It will tell which model Mac you have and what >>> graphics card it >>> has, so we can try to reproduce the bug locally on similar hardware. >>> >>> The next step would be to try the 1.3.2577 Aqua version of >>> chimera. And >>> if that doesn't work, then try an older version. If one or none >>> of those >>> work is important to know too. All of the versions can coexist >>> on your >>> Mac if you give each version of chimera a different name. >>> >>> Greg Couch

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Worm color gradient
by Markus Voehler 12 Dec '08

12 Dec '08

The worm tool has many wonderful options to adjust the ribbon size according to the b-factor or occupancy, including the options of abruptly changing the radius for each residue or a smooth change. It also allows to change the colors varying on the values used. I can not find an option to display smooth transitions for the colors that would correspond to the smooth transition of the radius. All I see is the color changing abruptly for each residue. Is a smooth color transition available? Sincerely, Markus

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suggestions
by Matthew Dougherty 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

1) session name somewhere on the viewer, perhaps next to "UCSf Chimera" at the top. 2) make the session name accessible as a variable name for text labels. So the first 10 frames of a movie can embed the session name. 3) ability to create movie file names using the session name variable; so that movie filenames can be automatically derived. 4) ability to set different directory defaults (e.g., data working directory, directory containing session files, directory containing movies)

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Re: [Chimera-users] biomt transform
by Elaine Meng 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

On Dec 10, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Connie Oshiro wrote: > > I would like to generate the "biologically relevant" form of a > protein, based upon the pdb BIOMT record and am having some > problems. I'm running chimera alpha version 1 build 2566 2008/10/16 > on win32 > > I tried 2 different methods, with different results: > > using pdb file 1LT8 > on the command line: > select #0 > sym #0 #0 > > GUI: > Tools -> Higher Order Structure -> Multiscale Models...Select chains > "All"....Under Multimer: Biological oligomer, click on "Make Models" > > In the first case, coordinates were displayed. I'm guessing they > are correct, or at least the correct number of structures were > generated. > > In the second caes, I got a kind of a surface in the same area in > space, but not the "usual" ms (msms) surface, with no coordinates. > > Questions: > - Are the commands I used on the command line correct? > - If I want to use the GUI, what am I doing wrong? > > thanks, connie Hi Connie, You did everything right. Both "sym" and Multiscale Models can use BIOMT to generate the corresponding multimer. The "select #0" command is not necessary, but it doesn't cause a problem. By default, Multiscale Models makes the extra copies as low-res surfaces for efficiency since you might be generating a colossal multimer (with zillions of atoms). To force loading full atomic coordinates of all of the copies, use the Multiscale Models dialog to select "All" chains, then change the style (representation) to anything other than surface. Once the chains are selected, you can use either the Multiscale Models dialog or the Actions menu to hide the surface and show ribbons or some atomic representation. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multiscale/framemu… > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multiscale/multisc… > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/sym.html#secondary > Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Re: [Chimera-users] Generated density maps
by Tom Goddard 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hi Maya, Chimera does not write CCP4 format. I am surprised that Coot does not read the MRC map. Does it give an error message? Have you tried changing the file suffix to whatever Coot expects (.map?). The differences between MRC and CCP4 format are very small and usually do not prevent these file types being read interchangably. Tom maya shcushan wrote: > Dear Tom, > > Indeed, the program Coot cannot open the .mrc map that Chimera produced. > Since Chimera can deal with both .mrc and .ccp4, I guess you have some > function inside Chimera that can convert the formats. Still, chimera allows > to doesn't allow to save in .ccp4 format. > > The point is I need it in the .ccp4 format. Can something implanted in > Chimera do that for me? > > Thanks, > Best, > Maya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Goddard [mailto:goddard@cgl.ucsf.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:45 PM > To: maya shcushan > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Generated density maps > > Hi Maya, > > The MRC format is almost identical to the CCP4 map format. Most > software that expects a CCP4 map will have no trouble reading an MRC > map. The main difference is in how they specify the positioning of the > map. The MRC map written by Chimera may not align with the PDB if > opened in a program that is expecting a CCP4 map. (I suspect it will > align in most other programs.) > > Tom > > > maya shcushan wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I generated a density map of 8A resolution from a PDB file. I would >> like to save the map in CCP4 format, but Chimera only allows me to >> save it in .mrc, .nc, .cmap and .brix format. IS there any way to >> save it in .ccp4 format, supported by chimer? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Best, >> >> Maya Shuchsan, Tel-Aviv University >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chimera-users mailing list >> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >> >> > >

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using EMAN/AIRS/SSEHunter
by Peter Hildebrand 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hallo there, we have installed the AIRS (EMAN 1.8) Package for Chimera (build 2470), but have difficulties to get it run. steps to reproduce: launch Chimera load .mrc file calling tools/AIRS/SSEHunter there is no file to select in the 'MRC file' selection box. If we provide parameters for Angstrom, Resolution and threshold and press 'Apply' we get this: ================================================================= UnboundLocalError Exception in Tk callback Function: <function command at 0x89f67d4> (type: <type 'function'>) Args: () Traceback (innermost last): File "CHIMERA/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Pmw/Pmw_1_2/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__ None File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/baseDialog.py", line 238, in command None File "/usr/local/EMAN/chimeraext/Airs/ssehunter.py", line 89, in Apply targetPath=airsIO.getPath(target) File "/usr/local/EMAN/chimeraext/Airs/airsIO.py", line 62, in getPath return path UnboundLocalError: local variable 'path' referenced before assignment ================================================================= Are we using this module in the wrong way (wrong parameters e.g.) or is it a bug (where?). Thanks in advance, jan and peter

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Combining volumes in the new Chimera version
by Martin Kampmann 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hello, I just downloaded the new Chimera version and tried to combine different models (density maps) into one volume, using the new 'combine' function, (e.g. combine #1 #2), but it returned an error message. Is it only possible to combine atomic structures (such as PDB files), or is there a way to combine volumes/density? Thanks a lot! Martin P.S.: Thank you so much for developing Chimera! I enjoy working with this program a lot! . . . . . . . . . Martin Kampmann The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, New York 10021 USA phone: ++1 212 327 8101 fax: ++1 212 327 7880 e-mail: Martin.Kampmann(a)rockefeller.edu

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Generated density maps
by maya shcushan 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hello, I generated a density map of 8A resolution from a PDB file. I would like to save the map in CCP4 format, but Chimera only allows me to save it in .mrc, .nc, .cmap and .brix format. IS there any way to save it in .ccp4 format, supported by chimer? Thanks, Best, Maya Shuchsan, Tel-Aviv University

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generating a density map
by William Jeffrey Triffo 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

hello, I remember seeing a pdb-to-density-map discussion at some point on this mail list, maybe using something from the EMAN package (pdb2mrc or something like that)? At any rate, a colleague recently asked me if I knew a way to generate a density map from point-cloud data that he has. This sounds a lot like the same question, except his data is anisotropic in z, so instead of assuming an isotropic/spherical gaussian around point centers, he has different sigmas for x/y and z. Does anyone have an algorithm he might be able to use to generate an MRC map from this kind of data? He is wanting to do some volume visualization, but to use Chimera he would need some sort of volume map (such as MRC). thanks for any advice on this, -Jeff -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Triffo Auer Group, Donner Lab, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Raphael Group, Bioengineering Department, Rice University Medical Scientist Training Program (MSTP), Baylor College of Medicine phone (Berkeley): 510-486-7940 fax (Berkeley): 510-486-6488

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savepos/reset
by Matthew Dougherty 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Let's say I have 5 models and I save a number of positions (savepos). Then I later create some morphs between the models. When I do a reset of a position, the morph model's position does not correspond with the other model positions. This is partially due to the method of camera control in chimera of moving the models and keeping the camera position pointing in the z direction. Is there a way to incorporate the morph model into the saved positions that were created prior to the creation of the morph model? having similar problem with models I open after the positions are saved. thanks, Matt

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limits of transparency?
by lvyuan zhang 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hi, I'm making my protein ribbons partially transparent by changing the alpha value in color editor. I tried a=0.2 and a=0.05, and I found that after raytracing, there is no difference between these two. Isn't a=0.05 supposed to be more transparent? Is this a bug or something is wrong with some settings in chimera that I don't know? Thanks a lot first! Cheers! Luyuan Zhang

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features to be removed
by Elaine Meng 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Dear users, The following features are slated for removal from Chimera after release 1.3. There will be a comment period of a few weeks before the features are removed, so please let us know as soon as possible if you deem any of these important to your work: * DelphiController * FreeBSD port * Keyboard Shortcuts * Lenses * Minrms Plot * Model Loops * Phantom Force Feedback * Selector Construction Panel * Surfnet * named volume subregions in Volume Viewer * precomputed volume subsamples in Volume Viewer * coloring capabilities in ResProp (will still be able to create/ modify amino acid categories) * the low-resolution display option in Side View (will always show the mini-view at high resolution) This list also appears in linked form at: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/removepost1-3.html> The Chimera Team

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mclip slabs for multiple axes
by David A. C. Beck 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

I would like to be able to setup multiple per model clipping planes on different axes at the same time. As an example, mclip slabs from 0 to 10 angstroms on each axis simultaneously to reveal just those atoms in the 0,0,0 to 10,10,10 space. Is there a way to do this that I have missed? Maybe with another tool or the gui? I originally imagined that I would be able to do is something like this where mclip leaves any existing mclips until cleared with ~mclip #model. # clear all existing clipping planes ~mclip #0 # stack the clipping planes to reveal just the box 0,0,0 ... 10,10,10 mclip #0 slab true thickness 10 axis x mclip #0 slab true thickness 10 axis y mclip #0 slab true thickness 10 axis z But each successive call to mclip clears the previous per model clipping planes. Thanks, - David -- David A. C. Beck, Ph.D. dacb(a)u.washington.edu Valerie Daggett Laboratory University of Washington, Seattle

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Chimera release 1.3
by Elaine Meng 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hello everybody, A new production release of Chimera (version 1.3) is available: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html#production> Release 1.3 addresses Microsoft Windows graphics drivers problems, particularly with integrated graphics accelerator chips. Versions are available for all platforms, including Mac Aqua (does not require X windows). Changes since the previous production release in July 2008 include: * Color Key tool * can read CASTp pocket data from local files * can write AMBER prmtop files, DMS dot surface files * more choices of charge parameter sets * can copy/combine molecule models * sequence alignment editing undo/redo * improvements in Axes and Build Structure * improvements in volume plane display, including ability to show contour lines * faster and more efficient solid volume rendering For details and the complete list, see the release notes: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/relnotes/1.3.html> Enjoy! The Chimera Team

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Re: [Chimera-users] Making Hydrogen Bonds
by Eric Pettersen 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

On Dec 5, 2008, at 4:11 AM, Ahir Utsav Pushpanath wrote: > Hello. I was wondering whether you could tell me whether there is a > graphic/command line option enabling me to create "hydrogen bonds" > between my specific residue+ligand only. Or, whether it is possibly > to manually draw hydrogen bonds between atoms. In addition, using > the FindHbonds tool, is it possible to find H bonds between only > ligand + a specific type of residues, for example hydrophobic or > valine etc. Hi Ahir, What I would do if I were you would be to select the residues you care about along with the ligand, then in the FindHBonds tool check the "Only find H-bonds with" box and change the menu to "both ends selected". This will find only H-bonds completely contained in your selection. This may find a few H-bonds you don't want: ones between the non-ligand selected residues, and ones within the ligand itself. You can select the ones you don't want, and bring up the Selection Inspector (by clicking on the green button at the lower right of the main Chimera window) and change "displayed:" to "off". [control- double clicking on an H-bond will also bring up the Selection Inspector for it] Another alternative is to open a second copy of your structure. Select the residues you want in one model and the ligand in the other. Then do the "both ends selected" thing like in the above paragraph, but also change "Find these bonds:" (upper right of the FindHBonds dialog) to "inter-model". Then you will only get H-bonds between your selected residues and the ligand and no extra H-bonds. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Re: [Chimera-users] Display all rotamers
by Elaine Meng 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:35 AM, daniel.hilger(a)lrz.uni-muenchen.de wrote: > > I´m really sorry for my imprecise question. I will concretize it. I > know > the rotamer tool, but I don´t want to replace only one rotamer into > another. I will have them all in the structure and in the according > pdb-file. With the rotamer tool, it is only allowed to choose one > rotamer > out of the rotamer list before clicking "Apply". This is my problem, > and I > didn´t found an appropriate answer in the manual and help menu. Hi Daniel, I'm sorry for misunderstanding - It's true that Apply only puts one copy in the structure, but if you don't Apply and simply keep the Rotamer list dialog and choose all of its lines, that displays all of the rotamers at the same time. Maybe that would allow you to do what you want. The Rotamer list dialog allows calculating clashes and H-bonds, plus selecting the rotamer atoms so you can control their appearance with the Actions menu. The issue is that the structure can't have multiple indistinguishable atoms (with the same name and residue number). We have talked about allowing multiple rotamers to be applied to the structure by giving them different "alternate location" ID codes, but that has not been implemented yet. Also, some residues may have more rotamers than the number of possible alternate location ID codes. Nevertheless we will make sure it is on one of our requested features lists. So currently you can't save PDB with multiple rotamers, but you can save/restore the session in the state where all of the rotamers are displayed. I hope this helps, Elaine

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SpaceNavigator with Linux
by Juan M Vanegas 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi, I just purchased a space navigator and would like very much to get it working with Chimera on linux. I don't know if you are aware of the spacenav project (http://spacenav.sourceforge.net/) it is a GPL alternative to the proprietary drivers. I would be willing to help with some of the coding/testing, I know a little bit of programming and I have the device. Thanks for the great work with Chimera. Cheers, Juan

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Named selection for subset of markers
by Giovanni Cardone 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi all, I am trying to save a selection of a subset of markers as a named selection. However, the named selection results empty: is it a normal behavior? I am using Chimera version 1 build 2552. Thanks in advance, Giovanni

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chimera startup problem
by Jinzhong Lin 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi, I installed lastest chimera build (1.3.2576) on 32-bit linux platform. When I ran chimera I got for following error message Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/sciencetools/chimera/share/__main__.py", line 65, in <module> value = chimeraInit.init(sys.argv) File "/opt/sciencetools/chimera/share/chimeraInit.py", line 361, in init tkgui.initializeGUI(exitonquit, debug_opengl) File "/opt/sciencetools/chimera/share/chimera/tkgui.py", line 2520, in initializeGUI master.tk.call('tix', 'initstyle') _tkinter.TclError: expected integer but got "9.5" Can anyone help me out? P.S. I opened the tkgui.py file and comment line 2520: master.tk.call('tix', 'initstyle') Chimera start without the error and seems usable, But I am not sure if this is appropriate. Best, lithlin

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Maintaining Color and Formatting Selections for New Molecules
by Eric Ganz 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Now that I have formatted and colored one molecule, I would like to maintain the color and formatting selections for a series of new molecules. How should I do this?

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Re: [Chimera-users] Labeling the surface representation
by Elaine Meng 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi Mehdi, I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant the atomspec balloons that temporarily pop up when you put the mouse over the atoms, and the previous instructions apply to those. Your picture shows the regular residue labels. To show a residue label, the residue's ribbon or some of its atoms must be displayed. It is OK for the surface to also be shown, but then the problem is that the surface usually covers up the residue labels so you can't see them. You can make the surface transparent to see the labels inside (see "Actions... Surface... transparency..." in the menu or use the command "surftransparency"). <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/surftransparency.html > If you are displaying these labels to make a figure, another suggestion is to use 2D Labels. You have to enter the text of a 2D label yourself, but you can move it to any position in the window. 2D Labels are independent of the structure and how it is displayed. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/2dlabels/2dlabels.… > Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Dec 7, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Mehdi wrote: > Thank you for your detailed information. I could not still figure > out how to label the residues on surface representation. I have > attached the figure (for instance) showing the ribbon representation > with a few amino acids labeled but if I want to achieve the labeling > on the surface the labels,unlike the ribbon, do not appears on it. I > also followed the tutorial but the atomspec balloons were not > observed on the surface as soon as the ribbon or simple stick > representation are hided.Do I have to keep the simple bond or ribbon > representation in order to keep the atomspec balloon and labels > observable?

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show CA as sphere and ribbon
by lvyuan zhang 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Hi, I want show one of the CAs in a single protein chain as a sphere. But it looks like that I have to hide the ribbon to let the sphere show. Is there anyway that I can show the CA as sphere and also allow the ribbon to remain? I looked at the gallery and I didn't find anything that can help me, so here I am to ask for help from you again. Thanks first! Cheers! Luyuan

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I got it.
by lvyuan zhang 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

I saved the CA atoms as another pdb file, and then import it, and show atoms as sphere. ________________________________ From: lvyuan zhang <gleanerly(a)yahoo.com> To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 4:42:20 PM Subject: show CA as sphere and ribbon Hi, I want show one of the CAs in a single protein chain as a sphere. But it looks like that I have to hide the ribbon to let the sphere show. Is there anyway that I can show the CA as sphere and also allow the ribbon to remain? I looked at the gallery and I didn't find anything that can help me, so here I am to ask for help from you again. Thanks first! Cheers! Luyuan

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Labeling the surface representation
by Mehdi 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

I am a new user of chimera, I would like to know how to label the residues in surface representation like the same action for ribbon! It simply works for ribbon but unfortunately I could not get it to work for surface. Mehdi

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The Macromolecular Modeling Blog
by Nir London 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Hi all, We've started a new blog on all that is related to Macromolecular Modeling http://rosettadesigngroup.com/blog/ We opened this blog in order to provide the modeling community with a helpful resource. Keep updated with what's new in the modeling world, read executive summaries of the latest literature and stay in touch with pears. On its background there is an image of a protein-protein complex I've created using chimera, can any of you suggest a nicer figure for the background ? The best image anyone will send me will be used as background (with due credits :) please check it out and tell me what you think... Cheers, Nir London. Rosetta Design Group http://rosettadesigngroup.com

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Image use permission request from Jones and Bartlett Publishers in Boston
by Asuka Ohsawa 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Dear Sir or Madam: My name is Asuka Ohsawa, and I am a freelance photo researcher for Jones and Bartlett Publishers, Inc., in Boston, MA. We're currently working on an educational textbook by Dr. Benjamin Lewin titled Essential Genes, 2nd Edition, and the author has requested to use the image that appears on the following website: http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ImageGallery/entries/rnabases/ rnabases.html At your earliest convenience, could you please let me know who owns the copyright to the image in question, and how I can get in touch with him/her? In order for us to publish the image properly, we need to acquire a signature from the author of the image. Your kind assistance in this matter will be much appreciated. Should you have any questions or require additional information, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you. Best, Asuka Ohsawa Freelance Photo Researcher Jones and Bartlett Publishers, Inc. Email: asukabunny(a)gmail.com Phone: 718/349-0393

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"docking" animation
by Elaine Meng 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Bagchi, Angshuman wrote: > Hi, > Could you please tell me how to produce animation in chimera. > Actually, I have 2 proteins and would like to represent them as they > are getting docked. What I mean is that I would like to move the > proteins and then show that as if they are getting docked. Can this > be done with chimera? > Thanks > Ang Hi Ang, Yes, it can be done. Here is how I would do it: (1) create a Chimera session that includes saved/named positions of the proteins separated and the proteins docked. (2) figure out a set of commands that does the stuff you want in your animation, which would include "reset" to gradually change from one saved position to the other; put the commands in a file. Just opening the file will execute the commands. (3) after you are happy with what the Chimera command file does, just put a "movie record" command at the top of it and a "movie encode" command at the bottom, and execute it. Now with more details: (1) Open the structures of the two proteins from two separate files so that they can be moved separately. You can "freeze" a structure by deactivating it, so that the mouse moves only the other structure: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/mouse.html#activedef > Save at least two positions, one with the proteins separated, another with the proteins docked together, as you want them to appear in your animation. The current position is saved using the command "savepos": <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/midas/savepos.html > You could even save multiple positions for more control over the path the proteins will take as they are "docked" in the animation. There is a nice example in the online movie-making tutorial, see the "Ligand flying into unbound conformation" section: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/movies08/moviemaking.html> Get the display how you want it: background color, ribbons, ribbon style, which atoms are shown, atom display style, colors, etc. See "tips on preparing images": <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/ print.html#tips> You might also want to add a title using 2D labels (if so, leave room for it when you save the positions). <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/2dlabels/2… > Save the session (File... Save session As). It will include your saved positions and any 2D labels. Now you could exit and later restart the session without losing your work. (2) You could either try out commands by typing them individually, or by putting them in a text file (named *.com or *.cmd) and repeatedly opening the file after you adjust its contents and going back to the starting position. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/indexcommand.html#c… > The "reset" command is used to go from one saved position to another. It can be done abruptly in one frame or gradually over a specified number of frames. See movie-related commands for links to the manual page of "reset" and other commands that can do things over a specified number of frames. Besides the "reset," you might want to do other things like translate or rotate or fade in/out 2D labels with these commands. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/movies.html#movieco… > There are also links to a few example movie command files on that page. (3) Once you are happy with what the script does when you open it, then you can put a "movie record" command at the top and a "movie encode" command at the bottom. See the example movie command files and the "movie" command description: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/midas/movie.html > I prefer this process because at the end you have a session file and a command file that allow you to either reproduce the process efficiently, or to make some small change without a lot of duplicated effort. I am told that "reset" has had some problems which were just fixed, so if you get a bad behavior using that command, try getting a recent daily build from <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/alpha-downloads.html> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Chimera on Linux PPC
by Tom Goddard 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Hi Justin, We do not currently build Chimera for Linux with PowerPC processors. Chimera includes more than 30 third-party libraries which we build automatically on each supported platform (Windows, Mac, Linux...). Compiling all those libraries is the real problem. Many of those libraries require special patches to build on all our platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac). It would likely take weeks of work for Linux PPC for someone very experienced in compiling open source packages from source code. We do not have the resources to do that for such an obscure platform. The next platform we will likely support is Mac 64-bit (Intel) sometime in the next year, after that 64-bit Windows. The latest Chimera can be compiled without the proprietary molecular surface code. We don't have that latest source code on the web site, but if you manage to build all the third-party packages (called "foreign" packages on our source code download page) I'd put the latest source code on the web and tell you how to disable the molecular surface compilation. Tom Justin A. Lemkul wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I am installing a few machines in our lab that are running Ubuntu > Linux (8.04) on PowerPC architecture. They are iMac G5 desktop > machines, a little old, but new to us. I have thus far been unable to > install Chimera on these machines, being that it is such an odd setup, > and PPC is rapidly falling out of use. I came across a message in the > chimera-users archive that made me wonder if installing Chimera on > these systems was even possible: > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2005-December/000607.html > > Are you aware of anyone that has installed Chimera on such a system? > Do you think it is even possible? We would really like to be able to > use Chimera on these machines (it is installed on all our other > machines, and has become a staple in our lab). Any advice you could > give me would be greatly appreciated. > > If I can resolve all of the dependencies, would Chimera install > without MSMS? I don't believe I can install MSMS on these machines, > given the available installation packages. > > Thank you very much for your time and attention. > > -Justin >

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Vista Video Card Error
by Devon Cayer 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hello, I'm currently attempting to model some viral capsid proteins using your software. Unfortunately, when I attempt to use the "side view" option I get a video card error, and I'm told to update my video card drivers. I've contacted the manufacturer and they have told me my laptop, a Gateway MT6821, is up to date with all the latest drivers. What else could be a possible problem do you think? I look forward to any input, Sincerely, Devon C Devon M Cayer Graduate Student The Scripps Research Institute Ghadiri Lab devcayer(a)scripps.edu

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building a alpha helix
by Anindito Sen 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Dear All I was wondering if there is any tool by which can generate an alpha helix, as an extension of a truncated crystal structure docked in the density map. The possibility of the truncated portion of the protein behaving as an alpha helix has been predicted by different groups. The density map shows some empty regions (after the crystal structure has been docked) just good enough for an alpha helix to fit in. Best Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Transparency of ribbons
by lvyuan zhang 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hi all, I'm a new user and my question maybe a little weird to you guys. I want to make some parts of my protein, let's say "A", partially transparent, so when compared to other parts of the protein, let's say "B", these "A" parts are hardly visible (the background is white). So I set the alpha value of "A" to less than 1, such as 0.1. then I save the image with POV-ray. The resulted "A" is too dark, and it is still quite "visible". Is there any way to make partially transparent ribbons lighter, instead of darker than non-transparent ones? I would really appreciate it if any one can help resolve this problem. Thans! Cheers! Luyuan Zhang

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Software(Drug Design)
by Tarit Mitra 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

28, Ashfield Green Yateley Hants GU46 6AL UK Dear Sir, I am a retired scientist, and working on an honorary basis for the University of London. I work from home and go to the University in regular interval. I would very much like to use your software for drug design. I was wondering whether you would grant me a free academic licence to the software. I shall only use the software for academic purpose and not for any financial reason whatsoever. I have both Linux(Ubantu) and Windows XP. My computer has 40GB hard disk with 756MB RAM I shall be grateful if you will kindly consider my case favourably. Yours faithfully T. K. Mitra, B.Sc(London), Ph.D(London)

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opaque background
by Mueller, Juergen-Joachim 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Dear all, is there a possibility to make the background invisible to be able to overlay a structure over anything? Thanks, Juergen

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Chimera rotational matrix
by Bui Khanh Huy 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Hi, I notice that Chimera has slightly different in calculation of transform when I tried to rotate my EM density (200x200x200 mrc file) using Chimera. The origin of the density reported by Volume Viewer is 0,0,0 First, I print out the homologous transform matrix using: >>> om = chimera.openModels >>> mlist = om.list() >>> m = mlist[0] >>> print m.openState.xform The transformation is: 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 If I rotate the model using command: roll z -30 1 Then print out the transform matrix again: 0.866025 0.5 0 -36.8852 -0.5 0.866025 0 61.2937 0 0 0 1 That would be weird because I didn't do any translation. So what is really happening in Chimera when I rotate the model? Best, Huy

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How to generate submodels in a mol2 file in Chimera?
by CHIU,YEUNG 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Dear friends, Hello! I'm wondering how many models and submodels in all can Chimera save into one single mol2 file? Right now I can have models only 0-9 into one single mol2 file. I think I'm going to use submodels, but how can I generate them? For instance, if I have a brunch of pdb files which contain one molecule each, I'd like to combine them into one mol2 file, which has a submodel corresponding to each molecule. (If this statement of the problem is not clear enough, please let me know). Thank you for your help and sorry to bother the others. Best wishes. Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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Increases size of labels
by Todd Weaver 25 Nov '08

25 Nov '08

Under the Actions pulldown for Label --> Other is there a way to increase the size of the lettering/numbering. When I make side by side stereo the labels are too small for publication. Thanks so much! -- Todd M. Weaver, Ph.D. UW-La Crosse 1725 State Street Chemistry Department 4020 Cowley Hall La Crosse, WI 54601 Ph. (608)785-8269 Fax (608)785-8281

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Laplacian filter on density maps
by Grigore Pintilie 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Hi, Just wondering if it might be possible to apply a Laplacian filter on a density map in chimera. The reason I'm asking is that if the cross-correlation is computed with laplacian-filtered maps it gives more robust results for the correct alignments vs. non-correct alignments. Thanks, Greg

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Highlighting CA as spheres
by Ibrahim Moustafa 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Hi Chimera team, I want to make a figure of the protein highlighting the following features: - The whole structure is shown in cartoon - The CA-atoms of some residues are highlighted as a sphere on top of the cartoon model. When trying to make that, the spheres are off in space and not exactly on top of the cartoon model. Is there a remedy for that?. So the spheres appear on top of the cartoon rather than in empty space. Also, how to turn the bonds off between consecutive CA-atoms? Thanks for help, Ibrahim -- Ibrahim M. Moustafa, Ph.D. Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Dept. 201 Althouse Lab., University Park, Pennsylvania State University PA 16802 Tel. (814) 863-8703 Fax (814) 865-7927

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changing ion appearance
by Elaine Meng 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Barry Lever wrote: > Elaine- a small question. I load up various ruthenium complexes as > mol2. files into Chimera and invariably they appear as attached, > with the central Ru atom as a huge ball, and the other atoms not > appearing - how do I get rid of that huge ball or how do I make it > much smaller ?? Hi Barry, By default, ions are initially shown in the sphere representation. Any atoms can be undisplayed or shown in a different representation (wire, stick, ball-and-stick). For example, you could select it with Ctrl-click and then use "Actions... Atoms/Bonds... hide" (or in the same menu, choose some other representation such as "stick") or use commands, for example: repr ions wire - or - ~display ions If you never want ions to be shown initially as spheres, you can change the Preferences (Favorites... Preferences, choose Category "New Molecules", change "monatomic ion style" to whatever you want, click "Save"). You might want to change additional settings in that panel, for example to show the other atoms/bonds with thicker lines or in a different representation. These preferences will apply to subsequently opened structures. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/preferences.html#New% 20Molecules> Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Identifying surface residues and write them to a file in a pdb format
by Thiruvarangan Ramaraj 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hello All, I am using Chimera molecular viewer, to identify the surface residues and then write all the identfied residues on the surface to a file in a pdb format. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Thiru

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building a alpha helix and flexing it
by Anindito Sen 22 Nov '08

22 Nov '08

Hi Elaine Got the wrong email in extension in the previous email request. Please ignore it. Here is the problem- In continuation of the process (mentioned below) I have generated the helix that needs to be added. However it seems that the helix needs to be flexed in some points to get a better fit. Can yo let me know how do that? Thanks Andy Hi Andy, There are two main possibilities: (1) With the "addaa" command you can build out from the C-term of a protein, residue by residue. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/UsersGuide/midas/addaa.html > (2) With the "Build Structure" tool you can create a peptide that is not attached to anything, then move it to a reasonable position and combine it with the existing protein. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/ed… > The moving/combining part of #2 can be rather difficult, so if it is a C-terminal truncation, definitely #1 is the way to go. For example, if the last residue in the structure is 309 in chain A of model #0, you could use commands like: addaa ala,310,alpha #0:309.a addaa lys,311,alpha #0:310.a addaa thr,312,alpha #0:311.a ... etc. ... If you need to extend the N-terminal end, however, approach #2 is the only choice. In Build Structure (under Tools... Structure Editing), go to the "Add Atoms" tab and choose the "peptide sequence" option. There you would just enter the sequence in one-letter amino acid codes, specify alpha-helix backbone angles, indicate the new atoms should be put in a "new model" and click Add. You don't want to put the helix in the same model as the protein because then you will not be able to move them separately. Then get the helix into position by activating/deactivating models and using the mouse (deactivating a model freezes it so that only the other models move with the mouse). Getting a reasonable position is nontrivial, unfortunately. Besides moving things interactively with the mouse, another possibility is to build enough atoms to overlap part of the protein structure and then match those overlapping parts, such as with the "match" command. Once the helix is in a reasonable position relative to the protein, you could combine the models into one model and then add a bond. If there were overlapping atoms, you would first need to delete the duplicate atoms. Perhaps you only need a rough representation, and in that case do not need to combine and bond the structures. See these previous posts for details on how to do the combining and bonding: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-November/003255.html > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/003238.html > I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Nov 18, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Anindito Sen wrote: > Dear All > I was wondering if there is any tool by which can generate an alpha > helix, as an extension of a truncated crystal structure docked in > the density map. The possibility of the truncated portion of the > protein behaving as an alpha helix has been predicted by different > groups. The density map shows some empty regions (after the crystal > structure has been docked) just good enough for an alpha helix to > fit in. > Best > Andy _______________________________________________ Chimera-users mailing list Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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selecting surface waters
by Walter Novak 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Hi All, I think there might be an easy way to do this, but haven't figured it out yet. I am interested in only selecting the waters on the surface of the protein, not those that are buried. Any suggestions? Thanks, Wally Walter R.P. Novak, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Fellow Rosenstiel Basic Medical Research Center Brandeis University 415 South St. MS 029 Waltham, MA 02454-9110 Phone: (781) 736-4944 Fax: (781) 736-2405

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building a alpha helix
by Anindito Sen 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Dear All I was wondering if there is any tool by which can generate an alpha helix, as an extension of a truncated crystal structure docked in the density map. The possibility of the truncated portion of the protein behaving as an alpha helix has been predicted by different groups. The density map shows some empty regions (after the crystal structure has been docked) just good enough for an alpha helix to fit in. Best Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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Fwd: carbon-chlorine bond
by Francesco Pietra 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Elaine: In the fear that docking and MD had been carried out with C in place of Cl for the ligand, I checked all. OK, correct for Cl. I noticed that when all atom names are left-justifies in column 13, Chimera reports the structures correctly.When all atom names are left-justified in column 14, Chimera does not report Cl correctly. I writing pdb files, the various programs in DOCK/Amber are not well consistent (although I did not carry out a thorough search). Dock6 writes the final pose pdb for receptor+ligand by left-justifying all atom names in column 13. Amber behaves differently according to which internal program is used. francesco ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] carbon-chlorine bond To: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Hi Eleaine: Thanks. Moving Cl to columns 13 and 14, the C-Cl bond is displayed for me too.Living with the new and the old. It will be so for quite a long time. Regards francesco On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > Hi Francesco, > I was going to write back that your PDB file from AMBER has the atom names > mis-aligned so that Chimera probably thinks the chloride is a carbon, which > would have a shorter automatic bond cutoff. However, when I put those 4 > lines from your message below in a file and open it in Chimera, the elements > are correctly identified and there is already a C-Cl bond; only the H is > unconnected. Perhaps the characters on the far right were sufficient to > identify element Cl. The H is far away and must be bonded to something else > in the complete structure. > Elaine > > On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> >> Hi Elaine: >> Yes, it is a pdb file written with program ptraj (Amber) for the >> minimum energy. The chlorine atom is defined as (partial block): >> >> ATOM 14544 H1 AA1 341 76.488 57.341 49.169 >> hn >> ATOM 14545 C3 AA1 341 75.036 56.270 51.132 >> ca >> ATOM 14546 Cl AA1 341 73.973 56.486 49.780 >> cl >> ATOM 14547 N1 AA1 341 74.619 55.535 52.192 >> nb >> >> and there are no CONECT. As you said above, prmtop/mdcrd with movie do >> show a line connecting C-Cl, but I don't know if there is another way >> to extract the minimum-energy structure than that pdb file. >> >> Why are all other bonds shown correctly by Chimera in the above >> situation? Why just C-Cl not? >> >> francesco >

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Re: [Chimera-users] clustering of docking solutions
by Elaine Meng 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Hi Sebastian, Are all the docked structures the same molecule, just in different positions? You are right that ViewDock doesn't have clustering, and Ensemble Cluster automatically determines the clusters without allowing you to specify an RMSD cutoff. My ideas only pertain if the structures are all the same molecule or at least contain a common set of atoms: (a) You could use Ensemble Match to compare the ensemble to itself, if the atoms in common have the same names. This would not perform clustering, but it calculates all-by-all RMSD values using a set of atoms you specify. However, these are best-fit RMSDs of the structures, while I suspect you may want the RMSDs in their current positions instead. Another caveat is that it creates a dialog that is an N x N table, which may not be manageable for a large number of structures (high N). <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/ensemblematch/ense… > There is an example of using Ensemble Match at the end of the "model panel and ensembles" tutorial: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ensembletut.html > (b) As you mentioned, you could convert to a multi-model PDB, and use the MD Movie tool's RMSD analysis to calculate an all-by-all RMSD map. However, it would require more work to extract the RMSD values (output is a grayscale map) and these are also best-fit RMSDs. This option is more practical for high N than option (a), however. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/movie/framemovie.h… > Part 2 of the "trajectories/ensembles" tutorial includes an example of MD Movie RMSD Analysis: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ensembles2.html#p… > (c) You could use a script to do all-by-all comparisons of the structures with the "rmsd" command. This calculates current-position RMSDs rather than best-fit RMSDs. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/rmsd.html> See these previous posts for more general information on scripts: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-November/003261.html > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-November/003262.html > I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Nov 17, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Sebastian Kruggel wrote: > Hi all, > I am looking for a possibility to cluster docking results (multimol2 > file) in chimera. In DockView I can't find such tool and in the > EnsembleCluster method I don't see a way to set rmsd limits. > > I found a hint to the MD Analysis tool in the mailing list, ok, I > could > convert my docking solutions into pdbs and use this, but probably > there > is another simple and convenient way that I am just too blind to > see ;-) > > Maybe somebody can help? > Thanks in advance, > Sebastian

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New Chimera release candidate and version numbering
by Conrad Huang 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

New Release Candidate A new production release candidate addressing Microsoft Windows graphics drivers problems, particularly with integrated graphics accelerator chips, is now available. Release 1.3 candidates are available for all platforms including a Mac Aqua version that does not require X windows. New Version Numbering System With the upcoming production release of Chimera we are changing our version numbering to clarify major releases and allow us to provide critical bug fixes while working on newer versions. The upcoming release will be release 1.3. Critical bug fixes (if any) to 1.3 will be released as 1.3.1, 1.3.2, etc., and the next major release of Chimera will be release 1.4. Chimera Team

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Re: [Chimera-users] carbon-chlorine bond
by Elaine Meng 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi Francesco, I was going to write back that your PDB file from AMBER has the atom names mis-aligned so that Chimera probably thinks the chloride is a carbon, which would have a shorter automatic bond cutoff. However, when I put those 4 lines from your message below in a file and open it in Chimera, the elements are correctly identified and there is already a C-Cl bond; only the H is unconnected. Perhaps the characters on the far right were sufficient to identify element Cl. The H is far away and must be bonded to something else in the complete structure. Elaine On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Hi Elaine: > Yes, it is a pdb file written with program ptraj (Amber) for the > minimum energy. The chlorine atom is defined as (partial block): > > ATOM 14544 H1 AA1 341 76.488 57.341 > 49.169 hn > ATOM 14545 C3 AA1 341 75.036 56.270 > 51.132 ca > ATOM 14546 Cl AA1 341 73.973 56.486 > 49.780 cl > ATOM 14547 N1 AA1 341 74.619 55.535 > 52.192 nb > > and there are no CONECT. As you said above, prmtop/mdcrd with movie do > show a line connecting C-Cl, but I don't know if there is another way > to extract the minimum-energy structure than that pdb file. > > Why are all other bonds shown correctly by Chimera in the above > situation? Why just C-Cl not? > > francesco

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Re: [Chimera-users] carbon-chlorine bond
by Elaine Meng 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi Francesco, It only means that whatever file(s) you are reading into Chimera do not specify the bond explicitly. I can't tell from the information given whether your MD program knows the bond is there; it may know, but not write this information into the file that you input to Chimera. If the file(s) describe trajectory in the format of the MD program (AMBER? GROMOS?) and you are using the MD Movie tool in Chimera for display, all the bonds should be there. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/movie/framemovie.h… > However, if you are doing something else like writing a PDB file from those programs, maybe the PDB file does not specify the bond explicitly, and the other viewers might have a more relaxed criterion for automatically identifying a bond. I don't think there is a way to change the automatic criteria, but you could just add a CONECT record specifying the bond to the PDB file, or just add the bond in Chimera with the command "bond" or the "Add/ Delete Bonds" section of Build Structure. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/bond.html> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.ht… > Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > For a monochlorinated small alkaloid docked onto a protein model, > after molecular dynamics simulations Chimera shows the chlorine atom > as a dot, without a line to represent the bond. Before dynamics, the > C-Cl line connecting the two atoms was shown. Other viewers show the > bond both before and after MD. For the purpose of presentation, how > to set a longer C-Cl bond length as a temporary default for Chimera? > > Very likely the parameterization for chlorine in the MD suite is not > as it should. > > Thanks > francesco pietra

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clustering of docking solutions
by Sebastian Kruggel 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi all, I am looking for a possibility to cluster docking results (multimol2 file) in chimera. In DockView I can't find such tool and in the EnsembleCluster method I don't see a way to set rmsd limits. I found a hint to the MD Analysis tool in the mailing list, ok, I could convert my docking solutions into pdbs and use this, but probably there is another simple and convenient way that I am just too blind to see ;-) Maybe somebody can help? Thanks in advance, Sebastian -- Sebastian Kruggel Institut für Pharmazie Bundesstr. 45 | Raum 112 D 20146 Hamburg Tel +49(0) 40 42838 3626

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Re: [Chimera-users] Running a job in chimera
by Elaine Meng 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Dear Tuhin, The script to perform the actions (your #1 or #2) could be written in python or in Chimera commands. Just opening the python file (*.py) or Chimera command file (*.com) in Chimera will execute it. The trickier part would be how to automatically loop through your multiple structures. You could write a long Chimera command script that includes the names of the structures, or you could use a python script that loops through a list of filenames. The methods can be combined; for example, the python script could merely loop through the names and open the structures, then open a separate Chimera command script. You could also use a shell script to loop through filenames, but I guess that would be slower because it would involve starting a new Chimera for each input (#1) or set of inputs (#2). If that is easier for you, however, it is reasonable. Please see this previous posting for examples/discussion of Chimera scripts for processing multiple structures, calling a script from another script, and using aliases: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2008-October/003218.html > See also Chimera nogui mode: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/options.html#nogui> I believe all the actions you want to perform can be done with Chimera commands, for example open /location/location/frame20.pdb delete solvent & protein z>5 write format pdb relative 0 0 /location/location/frame20zone5.pdb close 0 or open /location/mystruct1.pdb open /location/mystruct2.pdb open /location/mystruct3.pdb matchmaker #0 #1 matchmaker #0 #2 These are just possibilities out of several ways to perform the tasks. For example, the top example assumes your structure is a protein, and in the bottom example, you could use "match" instead of "matchmaker" to superimpose structures. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Nov 11, 2008, at 1:41 AM, tuhin(a)iitk.ac.in wrote: > Dear All, > I have run several simulations. But, I need to analyse a selective > number > of structures from each simulation saved at a given time step "t". > Thus, > for a 20ns simulation, starting t=0 and incrementing it by 50ps, > I'll have > ~400 individual structures. Each structure is within a waterbox, which > contains approx. 20,000 water molecules. Once I get the structures, > I need > to do the following using CHIMERA: > > 1. Open each structure and save water molecules within a cutoff > distance of > 5.0 Angstrom from the protein. Thus, I'll end-up having a shell > (<=5.0A) > of water molecules around the protein. The saved structure will be > in > .pdb format and include the protein with 5.0A water shell. > I know how to do it in CHIMERA using the commandline option/ > pulldown > menu, but, how to do it for 400 structures. Is there a way to run it > in a "Batch Job" ? > > 2. I also need to superimpose Ca-Ca atoms of 400 structures. But, I > feel > there is a limit to the no. of structures that CHIMERA could handle, > thus, at max. I would be superimposing 20-30 structures at a time. > How > could I automatize the same through a script sothat I could run it > in > batches? > > Thanks in advance. Any suggestion(s) is welcomed. > Warm regards, > Tuhin

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zone command
by Francesco Pietra 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

A polypeptide was docked onto a protein that already carried ligands. Then, molecular dynamics of the complex was carried out. To do this, a single PDB file was created with the program ptraj of Amber. Although ptraj removes chain labels, TER lines, etc., renumbering all the residues in a single sequence, I know, from the ligand positions, the corresponding numbering for the chains and for the polypeptide. Which is the best procedure to map around certain groups of amino acids of the protein, i.e., those that constitute the experimentally-evaluated binding site? I want to take notice of which residues of the polypeptide are most involved in the binding. Thanks francesco pietra

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Re: [Chimera-users] Powerpoint
by CHIU,YEUNG 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Hi John, According to my experience, you can not directly insert the video file from Chimera into your powerpoint slides, but only a superlink to the video. Usually what I do is I set up a buttom with the superlink, and everytime I click the buttom, the video can be played by Quicktime~ If you get some other way to do it, please let me know~ thank you~ On Wed Nov 12 07:28:07 EST 2008, "Beale, John" <jbeale(a)stlcop.edu> wrote: > Can movies created in Chimera be played in a Powerpoint > presentation? If > so, how do I set it up? > > John Beale > > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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Powerpoint
by Beale, John 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Can movies created in Chimera be played in a Powerpoint presentation? If so, how do I set it up? John Beale

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Running a job in chimera
by tuhin＠iitk.ac.in 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

Dear All, I have run several simulations. But, I need to analyse a selective number of structures from each simulation saved at a given time step "t". Thus, for a 20ns simulation, starting t=0 and incrementing it by 50ps, I'll have ~400 individual structures. Each structure is within a waterbox, which contains approx. 20,000 water molecules. Once I get the structures, I need to do the following using CHIMERA: 1. Open each structure and save water molecules within a cutoff distance of 5.0 Angstrom from the protein. Thus, I'll end-up having a shell (<=5.0A) of water molecules around the protein. The saved structure will be in .pdb format and include the protein with 5.0A water shell. I know how to do it in CHIMERA using the commandline option/pulldown menu, but, how to do it for 400 structures. Is there a way to run it in a "Batch Job" ? 2. I also need to superimpose Ca-Ca atoms of 400 structures. But, I feel there is a limit to the no. of structures that CHIMERA could handle, thus, at max. I would be superimposing 20-30 structures at a time. How could I automatize the same through a script sothat I could run it in batches? Thanks in advance. Any suggestion(s) is welcomed. Warm regards, Tuhin

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How to make bonds between two pdb files
by Ann Spevacek 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hello - I am trying to make a bond between a protein and a polysaccharide chain in Chimera and am not quite sure how to do it. I am also curious as to whether the program will take into account interactions such as sterics when it generates the bond. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Ann Spevacek Millhauser Lab UCSC

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successive minimizations: can we use a unique protein setup?
by Jean Didier Pie Marechal 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hi everyone, I want to do the following: 1. minimize a region of a structure 2. change some part of the region by hand (like swap a residue) 3. minimize once more. and this 2 or three times. However, each time I want to minimize I have to pass through the all setup of the protein (add H, hist protonation, and so one). Couldn't we keep the information of the first setup and directly fo through the minimization? All the best, JD Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Lecturer Computational Bioorganic and Bioionorganic Chemistry @ Transmet Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es ----- Missatge original ----- De: chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Data: Dimecres, Novembre 5, 2008 2:00 am Assumpte: Chimera-users Digest, Vol 67, Issue 4 > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Using match (Omar Davulcu) > 2. Re: Using match (Eric Pettersen) > 3. Re: Models or chain (Eric Pettersen) > 4. removing side chains (Matthew Dougherty) > 5. Re: removing side chains (Eric Pettersen) > 6. Re: Using match (Elaine Meng) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:53:19 -0800 > From: "Omar Davulcu" <davulcuo(a)ohsu.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] Using match > To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <001301c93e06$f7394020$e5abc060$@edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > > > I'm using the match command with a cutoff to align specific regions of > related enzymes. It appears to work fine and remove residue pairs > above the > cutoff, but is there a way to list those residue pairs which were > (or were > not) removed? > > > > Thanks for any help! > > Omar Davulcu > >

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Using match
by Omar Davulcu 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hi, I'm using the match command with a cutoff to align specific regions of related enzymes. It appears to work fine and remove residue pairs above the cutoff, but is there a way to list those residue pairs which were (or were not) removed? Thanks for any help! Omar Davulcu

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removing side chains
by Matthew Dougherty 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

I have a session that someone has given me. It consists of 24 monomers in two states, each monomer colored differently. In the model panel I see only two IDs. I need to do a morph showing just the ribbons. Because the overall number of atoms is quite large, I want to strip off the side chains in order to reduce the computation. Is there an easy way to do this? Or do I have to go back to individual monomers, strip off the side chains, recolor, and recombine them, before morphing? thanks, Matt

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Re: [Chimera-users] Models or chain
by Eric Pettersen 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hernando Sosa wrote: > Hi Elaine, > > The problem I have is actually not with chimera itself. I can > display all the models etc nicely within it. However, I want to make > now a PDB file of a multi-protein complex in a format that can be > deposited in the PDB database. Then I run into problems if the models > are separated by Model ENDMDL lines or have chains with the same > letter > identifier. I was hoping to be able to generate a multi-protein PDB > file from my chimera fitting without having to manually edit a lot of > lines in the multimodel PDB file. Any suggestions on how to best do > this > would be appreciated. > Hi Hernando, Elaine kind of mentioned this in passing in another posting, but you can now do what you wanted to do above with the new "combine" command (also available as the Combine button of the Model Panel). It's in the current daily build and upcoming release candidate/production release. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

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Coloring snapshots using time as attribute
by Ibrahim Moustafa 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Dear Chimera team, I have several snapshots from simulation loaded as different models. I wonder if there is a way to color them coded according to time as an attribute, e.g. Red-white-blue for t0 -> t. Thanks in advance, Ibrahim -- Ibrahim M. Moustafa, Ph.D. Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Dept. 201 Althouse Lab., University Park, Pennsylvania State University PA 16802 Tel. (814) 863-8703 Fax (814) 865-7927

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Re: [Chimera-users] How to add change to multiple molecules
by CHIU,YEUNG 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hi Yang You mean adding "charge"? I think you can add charge to all of the models as long as you check the box referred to them at the bottom. If you want to add charge to some models only, you can ~disp all, then display one by one and add charge to them. I hope this would help. Good luck! On Sun Nov 02 20:32:46 EST 2008, zhouyang <zhouyang(a)mail.shcnc.ac.cn> wrote: > Hi > Recently I wanna add change to a series of molecules for DOCK6 > which are stored in a single .mol2 file. It seems that the > Chimera GUI can just add change for one molecules at one > operation. I wonder how to add change to all of them? > Alternatively I just suppose to use 'split' shell command to > seperate these molecules to single files and then add change to > them. Then the key point is whether Chimera can run in > command-line mode so that I can achieve by writing a shell > script? > Thanks in advance > Yang > zhouyang(a)mail.shcnc.ac.cn > > 2008-11-03 ?????? ZHOU Yang > Master Candidate > Drug Discovery and Design Center > Shanghai Institute of Meteria Medica > China Academy of Sciences > 555 Zu Chong Zhi Road , Zhang Jiang Hi-Tech Park, Shanghai, China > (Postcode: 201203) > > Mobile: 86-137-6430-7897 > MSN: zhouyang_pku(a)hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > Sincerely yours CHIU,YEUNG

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How to add change to multiple molecules
by zhouyang 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hi Recently I wanna add change to a series of molecules for DOCK6 which are stored in a single .mol2 file. It seems that the Chimera GUI can just add change for one molecules at one operation. I wonder how to add change to all of them? Alternatively I just suppose to use 'split' shell command to seperate these molecules to single files and then add change to them. Then the key point is whether Chimera can run in command-line mode so that I can achieve by writing a shell script? Thanks in advance Yang zhouyang(a)mail.shcnc.ac.cn 2008-11-03 周阳 ZHOU Yang Master Candidate Drug Discovery and Design Center Shanghai Institute of Meteria Medica China Academy of Sciences 555 Zu Chong Zhi Road , Zhang Jiang Hi-Tech Park, Shanghai, China (Postcode: 201203) Mobile: 86-137-6430-7897 MSN: zhouyang_pku(a)hotmail.com

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Fwd: Combining fragments for RESP charges
by Francesco Pietra 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Sorry I used the wrong address for the message below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:34 AM Subject: Combining fragments for RESP charges To: chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu I was reading Ross Walker's tutorial A1, in the suite of tutorials for Amber. When deriving RESP charges for an unusual molecule covalently bound to a protein, the unusual molecule is first detached from the protein and then further divided into fragments. RESP charges are derived for the fragments, then the fragments are recombined using Sirius visualization program. The recombined fragments are then attached to the protein, again using Sirius. Can these recombinations be carried out with Chimera? Thanks francesco pietra

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morph-coordinates and camera movements
by Matthew Dougherty 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

I was generating a morph of atoms and wanted to rotate the camera 242 degrees on the x axis. I am thinking there may be several ways to do this, such as per-frame script in the morph tool or through the movie recorder script. Is one way better than the other? What would the scripts look like? Thanks, Matt

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directory within Chimera ??
by Barry Lever 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Elaine: I know you are busy .. but as a fairly new user....when I restore a previous session.. can I extract from Chimera, the names of the input data files that were used to create that molecule and subsequent manipulations- I am especially interested to know where I can locate the name of the input geometry file that set up the molecule. In future I will know to include that information in the overall session file name but for now..... Thanks so much Barry -- A. B. P. Lever Distinguished Research Professor Emeritus Chemistry, CB124, York University 4700 Keele St., Toronto, Ont., Canada M3J 1P3 Tel:416-736-2100 x22309 Fax: 416-736-5936 http://www.chem.yorku.ca/profs/lever

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multiple Chimera windows on Mac
by Elaine Meng 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

On Oct 30, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Chin-Hsien (Emily) Tai wrote: > > One quick question, is there any way to have several sessions of > Chimera running at the same time so that we can compare/rotate > different domain parsing results of the same structure at the same > time? > Hi Emily, I assume you are using a Mac... Yes, you can have multiple Chimera instances, as many as you want, if you start Chimera from the Terminal window. For example, I have Chimera version 1.2540 installed as /Applications/Chimera2540, so to start it from Terminal I would type: /Applications/Chimera2540.app/Contents/MacOS/chimera Actually I don't really type that because it is too troublesome, and instead have an alias in my home directory .tcshrc file (or .cshrc file). If you don't have either of these files you can just create a file by that name in your home directory and put the alias in it, in my case: alias chimera /Applications/Chimera2540.app/Contents/MacOS/chimera Then after you source that file or log in again, simply typing "chimera" (or whatever you used as the alias) starts Chimera. In a second Terminal window, you can enter "chimera" for a second running Chimera, etc. I have multiple different Chimera versions with different aliases, for example, a recent daily build is on my Desktop: alias chinew ~/Desktop/Chimera.app/Contents/MacOS/chimera Even if you have only one version, you can start it as many times as you want from different Terminal windows. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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scripts in Chimera
by Ben Keshet 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

Hi, I am reviewing a large number of structures (docking results). I uses the ViewDock tool which is great and makes life much easier. Still, for every file I open with ViewDock, I repeat the same set of commands before actually reviewing the poses, that is (initially only the receptor structure is open, with only ribbon shown): 1. open the ligands mol2 file. 2. color by element 3. choose atoms within 6A from the ligands (by selecting the ligand, than select zone<6A). 4. show the selected atoms. This is to show only receptor atoms within 6A of the ligand. Is there a way I can "record" this sequence or write some simple script that I could run after opening the ligands mol2 file? Thanks! Ben

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volume planes display loop
by Benoit Zuber 28 Oct '08

28 Oct '08

Hi, I have got some questions regarding plane display of volumes: Is there a way to cycle through a limited range of planes? For example if the thickness of my volume is 300, is it possible to cycle from z = 100 to z = 120, instead of from z = 0 to z = 299? Is there a way to make the cycling through the planes start in the other direction than when it stopped last time? For example, I click stop while the display is cycling from low z value to high z value. If I then click start, the display is going to cycle again from low to high z value but I would like it to cycle from high to low z value. Is it possible to specify a starting plane and an end plane, and to have the display going from the starting plane to the end plane only once (without cycling)? Finally, can all of this be specified through the command line? Cheers, Ben Benoît Zuber MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology Hills Road Cambridge CB2 0QH United Kingdom +44 1223 402209 bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk

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Flushing output during the script execution
by Lukas Palatinus 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Hello all, I am using Chimera as a visualization tool for small-molecule electron densities obtained by ab initio structure solution. I want to create a small script that will make Chimera read and display the intermediate electron densities as they are produced during the iterative structure solution process. I am not skilled in Python, but I could make a simple Python script by copying and modifying scripts previously posted in this list. Here is the script: from chimera import runCommand as run from os.path import exists from time import sleep map_file= 'test.xplor' while exists(map_file): run('close all') run('open ' + map_file) sleep(1) I am sure this is not the most elegant way to achieve what I need, but it should do the job. What the script should in my opinion do is to read and display the file test.xplor, then wait one second, close the map and reopen it again, until the file test.xplor is deleted. The script does >>almost<< that, it opens the volume viewer, reads the map, but it does not display the map in the main Chimera window. Only after the file test.xplor is deleted, the last map is displayed. Can anybody give me a hint what am I doing wrong? I am using Chimera 1.2540 on Mac OS X 10.4. Thanks in advance for any help. Best regards Lukas Lukas Palatinus Laboratoire de Cristallographie EPFL Lausanne Tel.: +41 (0)21 693 0639 mailto: palat(a)fzu.cz

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forget previous error
by Jean Didier Pie Marechal 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Sorry, I made a mistake and found my problem. All the best JD Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Lecturer Computational Bioorganic and Bioionorganic Chemistry @ Transmet Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es ----- Missatge original ----- De: chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Data: Divendres, Octubre 24, 2008 9:00 pm Assumpte: Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 22 > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. volume planes display loop (Benoit Zuber) > 2. Re: volume planes display loop (Tom Goddard) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:36:42 +0100 > From: Benoit Zuber <bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> > Subject: [Chimera-users] volume planes display loop > To: chimera users list <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <4901EB8A.9040102(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, > > I have got some questions regarding plane display of volumes: > Is there a way to cycle through a limited range of planes? For > example > if the thickness of my volume is 300, is it possible to cycle from > z = > 100 to z = 120, instead of from z = 0 to z = 299? > > Is there a way to make the cycling through the planes start in the > other > direction than when it stopped last time? For example, I click stop > while the display is cycling from low z value to high z value. If I > then > click start, the display is going to cycle again from low to high z > value but I would like it to cycle from high to low z value. > > Is it possible to specify a starting plane and an end plane, and to > have > the display going from the starting plane to the end plane only > once > (without cycling)? > > Finally, can all of this be specified through the command line? > > Cheers, > Ben > > > Beno?t Zuber > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > Hills Road > Cambridge > CB2 0QH > United Kingdom > +44 1223 402209 > bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:31:44 -0700 > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] volume planes display loop > To: Benoit Zuber <bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> > Cc: chimera users list <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <49020680.2070802(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Ben, > > The current Chimera daily builds have a more flexible volume > plane > cycling interface. In the planes panel it now has a switch > > Cycle through [20] planes at speed [30] > > It lets you play through a specified number of planes centered on > the > currently shown plane. You start it by clicking a switch and stop > it > the same way. There is no control to stop after N planes, and the > initial direction of play is the same as when you last stopped > playback. > There is currently no Chimera command equivalent which would > obviously > be handy for making movies. I've attached a Python script which > can be > used with Chimera commands (example given in script) to control > exactly > which frames to show in a movie. Note that the frame rate is only > relevant for real-time cycling in Chimera. Movie recording > captures > every new frame no matter how slow they are rendered and plays in a > movie player at 25 frames per second (adjustable with a movie > encode > command option). Chimera movie recording capabilities are very > limited > now but it is an area we intend to improve. > > Tom > > > Benoit Zuber wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have got some questions regarding plane display of volumes: > > Is there a way to cycle through a limited range of planes? For > example > > if the thickness of my volume is 300, is it possible to cycle > from z = > > 100 to z = 120, instead of from z = 0 to z = 299? > > > > Is there a way to make the cycling through the planes start in > the other > > direction than when it stopped last time? For example, I click > stop > > while the display is cycling from low z value to high z value. If > I then > > click start, the display is going to cycle again from low to high > z > > value but I would like it to cycle from high to low z value. > > > > Is it possible to specify a starting plane and an end plane, and > to have > > the display going from the starting plane to the end plane only > once > > (without cycling)? > > > > Finally, can all of this be specified through the command line? > > > > Cheers, > > Ben > > > > > > Beno?t Zuber > > MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology > > Hills Road > > Cambridge > > CB2 0QH > > United Kingdom > > +44 1223 402209 > > bzuber(a)mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chimera-users mailing list > > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > > > End of Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 22 > ********************************************* >

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Problem with sum?
by Jean Didier Pie Marechal 27 Oct '08

27 Oct '08

Hi guys, I got back to the script on inertia axis calculation and I had the following error when running it on the built of th 15/10/2008 on my linux box: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/jd/Desktop/scripts/chimera/inertia_model.py", line 73, in <module> axes, d2, center = inertia_ellipsoid(m) File "/home/jd/Desktop/scripts/chimera/inertia_model.py", line 13, in inertia_ellipsoid mass = sum(amass) TypeError: 'float' object is not callable then I just try in the python shell: i=[1,2,3] sum(i) and I have the same prob. sum(i) Traceback (most recent call last): File "<pyshell#38>", line 1, in <module> sum(i) TypeError: 'float' object is not callable Some input? all the best JD Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Lecturer Computational Bioorganic and Bioionorganic Chemistry @ Transmet Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es ----- Missatge original ----- De: chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Data: Dimecres, Març 19, 2008 8:43 pm Assumpte: Chimera-users Digest, Vol 59, Issue 19 > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Principal axis of inertia (Tom Goddard) > 2. problem with 17/03 build linux 64 (Jean-Didier Mar?chal) > 3. Un-tile (Jim Nettles) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:00:33 -0700 > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Principal axis of inertia > To: Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Cc: 'Chimera BB' <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <47E162D1.5070108(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eric, > > Just ignorance -- didn't know Chimera could tell me the atomic > mass. > Attached is the same script only using atomic mass instead of > atomic number. > > Tom > > Eric Pettersen wrote: > > Just wondering why you weighted by atomic number rather than mass > > > (a.element.mass)? > > > > --Eric > > > >

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Re: [Chimera-users] coloring seperate domains
by Elaine Meng 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Chin-Hsien (Emily) Tai wrote: > > We would like to use Chimera as a visualizing/figure drawing tool to > compare different domain parsing schemes and we are wondering how to > automate the process as much as possible. The tasks are: > 1.fetch a PDB > 2.select Chain (for example B) > 3.Invert (all models) > 4.Atoms/Bonds delete > 5.chain trace only > 6.backbone only > 7.Ribbon show rounded > > I am wondering if there is a simple way to combine step 1 to 4 to > display only specified chain in PDB? > Then rotate the structure to minimize domain overlapped area. > > Then color each domain according to different parsing schemes, for > example: > scheme1 "color red #0:1-38.A 150-190.A; color green #0:39-149.A; > color blue #0:192-347" > scheme2 "color red #0:1-30.A 160-195.A; color green #0:31-159.A; > color blue #0:196-347" > > Can Chimera read a script and displays different domains in > different colors? > Thanks for your advice in advance! > Cheers, > Emily, Dear Emily, You can definitely do all those steps in a script, except I'm not sure how to automatically orient the structure to best show the domains. I'll discuss the other parts first. A Chimera command script is just a text file containing the same things you would enter at the command line. If you name the file something.com or something.cmd it will automatically execute when opened in Chimera (with File... Open or the command "open"). Chimera can also execute python scripts (something.py) in the same way. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/indexcommand.html#cmdfile > There are many possibilities for either type of script, but here are some example Chimera commands: open 2mnr delete ~ :.a ribbon ribrep rounded ~disp color red :3-132 color dodger blue :133-359 copy png file 2mnr.png This set of commands fetches PDB structure 2mnr, deletes everything that is NOT chain A, displays ribbon, uses the rounded ribbon style, undisplays all atoms, colors the specified residue ranges, and saves an image in PNG format. You don't have to specify the chain in the coloring command since there is only one chain left. Each of these commands has a manual page if you want to see details (for example, there are other image formats such as TIFF). You can try the commands in the Command Line to see what works before putting them into a script. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/framecommand.html> For saving images, you might want to make the background white (set bg_color white) before using the script, or after opening each structure use the ribbons preset and then a publication preset (preset apply int 1; preset apply pub 1) instead of ribbon and ribrep rounded. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/docs/UsersGuide/print.html#tips> There are some fancier approaches that may facilitate processing a large number of structures. You can separate the structure-specific and general commands using aliases: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/alias.html> alias mypdb 2mnr alias mychain :.a alias dom1 :3-132 alias dom2 :133-359 ~alias dom3 ~alias dom4 alias output /Users/meng/Desktop/2mnr.png # # the following general commands could be put in a separate file # open mypdb delete ~ mychain preset apply int 1 preset apply pub 1 color red dom1 color dodger blue dom2 color yellow dom3 color magenta dom4 copy png file output close 0 This structure only has two domains, so I clear any previous dom3 and dom4 assignments from previous structures. There will be error messages when commands refer to nonexistent aliases, but they can be ignored. The reason you might want to separate the specific and general commands is that all of the general commands can then be put in a second command file (for example named "process.com" ) that is opened by the first script. The second script file could be in the same directory (folder) as the first, or you could specify its whole pathname. alias mypdb 2mnr alias mychain :.a alias dom1 :3-132 alias dom2 :133-359 ~alias dom3 ~alias dom4 alias output /Users/meng/Desktop/2mnr.png open /Users/meng/Desktop/process.com # # now go to next structure # alias mypdb 4enl alias mychain :.a alias dom1 :1-141 alias dom2 :142-436 ~alias dom3 ~alias dom4 alias output /Users/meng/Desktop/4enl.png open /Users/meng/Desktop/process.com [... etc.] Putting the general commands in a separate file minimizes the number of lines in the primary command file. However, it may still be tedious if you are processing a very large number of structures. Since I don't know python, I would probably write a script or program (in some other language) to make the long main Chimera command file. If you know python, another approach is to make the main script python instead of Chimera commands, and have it cycle through multiple structures. You could call the Chimera commands in my examples from inside the python script. Finally, now about orienting the structure to best show the domains. The only way I can think of with Chimera commands is to use "align" to put domains 1 and 2 front and back, then rotate 90 degrees, for example: align dom1 dom2 turn y 90 That worked pretty well in my tests. Those commands could be in the general script (process.com in my example), assuming all the structures have at least two domains, before the image-saving command. There are some other possibilities that require python; I'll get back to you if we come up with something good. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 20
by Ibrahim Moustafa 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

Hi All, I figured it out. The problem turned to be the resolution of the files that did not play in the powerpoint. Editing the movie to have a lower resolution enabled the file to play fine in the powerpoint. I wonder if there can be an option to determine the resolution in the output file from Chimera to avoid such problems with powerpoint and also, this can be added to the tips on Chimera site for making the movie for use in powerpoint: "make sure of the produced file to match the projector and the computer. Usually, something like 800x600 should work" Thanks to Elaine for her help. Ibrahim On 10/22/08 3:00 PM, "chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu" <chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to > chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Question about movie in powerpoint (Ibrahim Moustafa) > 2. Re: Question about movie in powerpoint (Elaine Meng) > 3. Re: orthogonal views (Elaine Meng) > 4. Re: orthogonal views (Tom Goddard) > 5. Re: orthogonal views (Greg Couch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:05:51 -0400 > From: Ibrahim Moustafa <I.moustafa(a)psu.edu> > Subject: [Chimera-users] Question about movie in powerpoint > To: "chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu" <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Message-ID: <C524D5AF.343C%I.moustafa(a)psu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Chimera team who is always giving the best support, > > I have a question regarding movie playing in power point and hope you can > help. > > I'm setting a power point presentation and want to play some movie (.avi > MSMPEG-4v2), created in Chimera, in the presentation. The movie play fine; > however, if I'm in the presenter view mode it does not play and gives me a > black screen. > I tried to re-insert the movie, change the view size, put everything in the > same place...but none of these solved the problem. > > The funny thing is that other movies bigger in size can play fine in the > presenter view mode. These have the same format (avi MSMPEG-4v2) and created > using the same program. > > Do you have any idea how to resolve this issue? Any advice is more than > welcome. > > Also, I noticed that sometimes the movie, that is known to be working > fine, does not work for unknown reason. > Especially in the case of 2 movies in the same slide. Any tips to have two > movies in the same slide to work in a more robust way is really appreciated. > > Really appreciating your help, thanks; > Ibrahim

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orthogonal views
by Thomas C. Marlovits 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Hi Chimera's ... is there an easy way to create orthogonal views at the same time of a molecule ? The idea is to open a (pdb) file and visualize the molecule from orthogonal directions at the same time in one viewer. Rotation/ movemements of the molecule should be done then on all three views at the same time of course. Maybe you have already implemented such an option (similar to the stereo viewing ...) Tx, -T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Thomas C. Marlovits, PhD, M.A.S. Research Group Leader IMP-IMBA Research Center - Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) - Institute of Molecular Biotechnology, Austrian Academy of Sciences (IMBA) Dr. Bohr-Gasse 3 Room IMBA/6.02 A-1030 Vienna Austria, Europe fone: (++43-1) 79044-4630 fax: (++43-1) 79044-4401 email: marlovits(a)imp.univie.ac.at

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Question about movie in powerpoint
by Ibrahim Moustafa 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Dear Chimera team who is always giving the best support, I have a question regarding movie playing in power point and hope you can help. I'm setting a power point presentation and want to play some movie (.avi MSMPEG-4v2), created in Chimera, in the presentation. The movie play fine; however, if I'm in the presenter view mode it does not play and gives me a black screen. I tried to re-insert the movie, change the view size, put everything in the same place...but none of these solved the problem. The funny thing is that other movies bigger in size can play fine in the presenter view mode. These have the same format (avi MSMPEG-4v2) and created using the same program. Do you have any idea how to resolve this issue? Any advice is more than welcome. Also, I noticed that sometimes the movie, that is known to be working fine, does not work for unknown reason. Especially in the case of 2 movies in the same slide. Any tips to have two movies in the same slide to work in a more robust way is really appreciated. Really appreciating your help, thanks; Ibrahim -- Ibrahim M. Moustafa, Ph.D. Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Dept. 201 Althouse Lab., University Park, Pennsylvania State University PA 16802 Tel. (814) 863-8703 Fax (814) 865-7927

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About Amber residue number renumbering
by Francesco Pietra 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Hi Elaine: At the end of a long journey of ACE/NME capping a fractionated model, I would not leave the impression that I like the way Amber treats the layout of pdb files. With Chimera I had all HETATM capping groups on one side and the ATOM of protein stretches on another side, conserving the residue number they had in the unabridged model. Straightforward to relate to the starting crystallographic work Now, after Amber forced (forced against me) manipulation, the ACE/NMR residues are intermingled with the standard amino acid, all ATOM, and take part to the overall sequential numbering. As the number of atoms in ACE differs from NME, and the stretches are many, headache in relating residue numbers imposed by Amber to residue numbers in the original crystallographic work from which I started. Regards francesco pietra

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Error when fetching pdb by ID
by Kenward Vaughan 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Hmm... is this my system or outside it? I'm at home behind a firewall and have never seen such an error before. I'm not sure where I should look for an answer... Fetch by ID. The error log: Opening 1ai2 Error reading 1ai2: Error during PDB fetch: [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known') Done opening 1ai2 It doesn't fail at work, so I'm suspicious of my home network. ??? Both my workstation and gateway/firewall are Debian/Sid boxes. What port is the call made on?? Thanks for any ideas! Kenward -- ."^~;,_ Dr. Kenward Vaughan `:,'~~~~~ Professor of Chemistry \;:/ Chair, Physical Science Department |,;| Bakersfield College / ', \ 1801 Panorama Drive / o O \ Bakersfield, CA 93305 (oOoOOoOo) http://www2.bc.cc.ca.us/kvaughan ---========--- ???$$MM$$???

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Fwd: Pruning pdb graphically
by Francesco Pietra 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi Elaine: LEaP does not understand capping, with a pdb file that Chimera understands perfectly. I have asked for light at both the Amber and Dock sites. Even Dock uses LEaP for amber score. LEaP adds and exta H to the terminal/beginning and OXT to the terminal/last. Moreover, it tries to join the first ACE with last NME. I have not tried separating the capping residue with TER. francesco ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Pruning pdb graphically To: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Hi Elaine: I had fully protonated histidine and left the chain amino group of lysine in basic form! No excuse for that. Now the charge is 5.0000 so that I expect that dockprep (avoiding add-h!) will work. In my (brief) experience, Chimera is an excellent tool also for capping, especially if Add-H is revised for the cases of capped residues. In some cases (12 residues capped in my case) that is important. Also because I want to run MD under various pH conditions, so that capping will change (constant pH MD is not possible with Amber under explicit medium conditions). That Amber has updated to PDB rules is good news. Perhaps I was so suspicious because a few days ago I found a bug with the latest version of ambpdb (Amber's tool to get a pdb file from inpcr/prmtop): the N-hydrogen names for LEU as first residue are written incorrectly. A revised ambpdb is forthcoming. Regards francesco On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > After looking at more parameter files, I now believe that Amber and PDB atom > names in standard residues, including hydrogens, are the same. My previous > information was old (I haven't run Amber for 10 years!), sorry about that. > You would still need to worry about correctly naming any atoms changed or > added with Build Structure, though. > > Besides the Amber *lib files mentioned before, you can also look up the > standard atom names in the links from this PDB page: > http://remediation.wwpdb.org/downloads.html > > Elaine > > > On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Elaine Meng wrote: > >> I forgot to mention that usually you don't need to worry about the atom >> names, as Add Charge knows which PDB names go with which Amber >> names/charges, and AddH uses the standard names. >> >> I think you only have to worry about the names of atoms that were changed >> or added "manually" in Build Structure, and if the nonhydrogen atoms have >> the standard names (PDB = Amber for nonhydrogen atoms in standard residues), >> AddH will use correct names for the hydrogens later added to those atoms. >> If you use hydrogens added by Build Structure, however, you have to fix >> their names. >> >> Elaine >> >> > >

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Residue Accessibility
by Luis Alberto Alvarez 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hello, I am trying to calculate the relative surface accessibility of residues (It will come to getting the solvent accessibility I guess) and the only information I found is from a post in the mailing list dating to 2005 ( http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2005-October/000482.html)I am just wondering if there is anything new in this front or I should just follow the 2005 instructions. Thank you -- Luis Alvarez alvarez(a)lcp.u-psud.fr Laboratoire de Chimie Physique Université Paris-Sud à Orsay microscope: 01 69 15 30 31 (80% du temps) bureau: 01 69 15 56 15

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Presets and multiple structures
by James Nettles 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

Something that often comes up is that I have some number of aligned protein structures with nicely color coded secondary features and specific side chains. I then want to fit another molecule in this same space and apply a "preset" graphic mode to the new structure without undoing the previous molecular views. I expect this is possible, but I haven't gotten it to work yet. I've tried making only my molecule of interest "active" in the Model Panel, but the preset still effects everything. I'm using Alpha build 2557 2008/09/13 at the moment. Thanks, Jim ________________________________________________________ James Nettles, Ph. D. Assistant Professor Department of Pediatrics, Emory University School of Medicine Laboratory of Biochemical Pharmacology (LOBP) Computer Assisted Discovery Research Environment (CADRE) ________________________________________________________

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Building ACE, NME (peptide caps)
by Elaine Meng 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

On Oct 16, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > Hi Elaine: > Thanks. > Is it possible with Chimera to cap the the protein termini (once the > work below is carried out) with ACE and NMA residues? I have no > experience with such a procedure. > francesco Hi Francesco, I wouldn't recommend doing it in Chimera. If you are using AMBER anyway, do it with that program. In Chimera, you could do it by using Build Structure (under Tools... Structure Editing), Modify Atom section. It would take several cycles of atom modification, being careful to name the residues ACE and NME and to give the atoms the correct types and names as you build out. For the first atom in the new residue you would use "change modified residue's name to ACE" (or NME) and then for the rest of the atoms in the residue, leave the residue name unchanged. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.ht… > Then, because the names of hydrogens added while building aren't standard for those residues, either delete all the hydrogens and re- add them using AddH, or use Modify Atom to change the hydrogen names to what AMBER expects (shown below), or just write out the file and use a text-editor to change their names. It is easy to make mistakes in this long process. In addition, I just found a bug where addh still thinks the first amino acid has a free N-terminus even though it is capped by ACE, so if you use addh, you would then have to delete the two hydrogens on the first amino acid's nitrogen and then use Build Structure (Modify Atom) on that nitrogen to make it trigonal and get one hydrogen back, and then change the name of that hydrogen to H. THEN you would get correct charges from addcharge. The atom names that AMBER (and addcharge) expect: for ACE: C O CH3 HH31 HH32 HH33 for NME: N H CH3 HH31 HH32 HH33 If you are capping the residues to avoid terminal charges on residues that are not really the termini, there is no need to do this. AddH looks at the SEQRES information in the file to decide what is really a terminal residue. If it is not a real terminus (for example, the structure starts at residue 5 because 1-4 are disordered), the residue will still be treated as an internal residue starting with NH-CA- (etc.) not as NH3+-CA-(etc.). The C-terminus is handled similarly, (...)C(=O) if not a real terminus instead of (...)CO2 minus for the real C-terminus. Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html

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imposing symmetry
by Anindito Sen 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

Hi I have a density map with symmetry C8. I have docked the monomer crystal structure. I was wondering if there is any way I can put crystal structures in rest of the 7 monomers without doing it manually. Thanks for your reply in advance. Andy Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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error
by Linnemayr Charlotte 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

Hello, I have a problem opening a file, I got it from a friend, who also installed chimera recently. On her computer it works nicly. But I get an errormessage and a white window, with some of the files text. I see the model for about 2 seconds, before the window turns white. Do I need an extra plugin?

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Contact mapping
by Beale, John 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

Is there a way in Chimera to generate interresidue contact maps for proteins from MD data? Thanks! John M. Beale, Ph,D, Associate Professor of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmaceutics St. Louis College of Pharmacy 4588 Parkview Place St. Louis, Missouri 63110 (314)-446-8461 Cell: (314)-315-0409 FAX (314) 446-8460 jbeale(a)stlcop.edu

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automating ensemble clustering in chimera
by Katryna Cisek 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Dear Chimera Users, How can I automate/import the Ensemble Cluster (Structure Comparison, MD/Ensemble Analysis; cluster members of a conformational ensemble, determine cluster representatives) module into a python script? Thanks, Katryna

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Regarding blender
by Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Hi guys, I saw on the mailing list some information on exporting/importing 3D files. However, I can't really figure out what would be the best way to export chimera scene so that blender can import them. Is the x3d format the best? Which plug-in do you use? Is there another way better? Cheers, JD -----Mensaje original----- De: chimera-users-bounces(a)cgl.ucsf.edu [mailto:chimera-users-bounces@cgl.ucsf.edu] En nombre de chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Enviado el: lunes, 13 de octubre de 2008 21:00 Para: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Asunto: Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 12 Send Chimera-users mailing list submissions to chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chimera-users-request(a)cgl.ucsf.edu You can reach the person managing the list at chimera-users-owner(a)cgl.ucsf.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Chimera-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Helix-Numbers (skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu) 2. automating ensemble clustering in chimera (Katryna Cisek) 3. Re: Printing on white background (Elaine Meng) 4. Re: Helix-Numbers (Elaine Meng) 5. Re: save reply log from chimera python script (Katryna Cisek) 6. Re: Pruning pdb graphically (Elaine Meng) 7. Re: save reply log from chimera python script (Thomas Goddard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:21:53 -0600 From: <skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Helix-Numbers To: chimera users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <BLU105-W44550A870C50C9AE487BFD85370(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I was wondering if there is a way in chimera for numbering the helices in the map fitted with coordinates. I Basically wanted to explain the location of helix in the map by means of numbering it, so that it will be easy for me to explain in my paper. thank you very much for your time, sudheer. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:42:47 -0400 From: "Katryna Cisek" <cisek.2(a)osu.edu> Subject: [Chimera-users] automating ensemble clustering in chimera To: chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <1bd6604c0810121242j2c9b4d48kc030b8a225af66d9(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Chimera Users, How can I automate/import the Ensemble Cluster (Structure Comparison, MD/Ensemble Analysis; cluster members of a conformational ensemble, determine cluster representatives) module into a python script? Thanks, Katryna ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:09:33 -0700 From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Printing on white background To: Christian Schudoma <Schudoma(a)mpimp-golm.mpg.de>, Francesco Pietra <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Cc: Chimera BB <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <350D2312-C5FB-4B46-B6B5-023FE8BA7875(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thanks, Christian! Besides the ways you mentioned, there is also the "set" command, for example: set bg_color white <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/set.html> Francesco and others may also be interested in the "tips on preparing images" page, which covers background color and other issues: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/print.html#tips> Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Oct 12, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Christian Schudoma wrote: > Hi Francesco, > you can change the background colour in Chimera: Actions->Color- > >background, then Actions->Color->[choose your colour like you would > for colouring atoms etc.]. > Then just save your image as usual and it should be on a white > background. > > Also, some of the Publication Options in the Presets menu > automatically set the background colour to white. > > Maybe there is a command line call for changing the background as > well? I don't know... > Cheers, > Christian > ________________________________________ > From: chimera-users-bounces(a)cgl.ucsf.edu [chimera-users-bounces(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > ] On Behalf Of Francesco Pietra [chiendarret(a)gmail.com] > Sent: 12 October 2008 12:44 > To: chimera > Subject: [Chimera-users] Printing on white background > > When mapping protein residues around a ligand I would like to have a > printout of the enlarged binding site area, so as to put remarks by > pencil on the printout. However, on a white background, in order to > save ink. Is that a problem of working out the image (I have Gimp > only, of which I never gained expertise), or can Chimera provide > directly? > > Thanks > francesco pietra ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:26:20 -0700 From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Helix-Numbers To: <skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu> Cc: chimera users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <F5081034-A931-431B-B612-2A930580D98F(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Sudheer, Sounds like you want 2D labels (Tools... Utilities... 2D Labels): <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/2dlabels/2dlabels. html > Since these labels don't move when you rotate the structure, you would first find the position you want to show in your figure, and then add the labels. Alternatively, for labels in 3D that move with the structure, you could just label one atom in each helix and then manually change what is in the label (for example with "Actions... Label... other..."). However, for figures I think 2D labels are much better, since they allow more control over location and can include symbols such as Greek letters, and it is easier to change their sizes and colors. Some example images with 2D labels: <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/2gbp-bfactor.png> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/feature_highlights/2fma-density.png> <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/ImageGallery/entries/cavities/cavities-larg e.png > Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Oct 12, 2008, at 12:21 PM, <skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu> wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if there is a way in chimera for numbering the > helices in the map fitted with coordinates. I Basically wanted to > explain the location of helix in the map by means of numbering it, > so that it will be easy for me to explain in my paper. > thank you very much for your time, > sudheer. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:22:59 -0400 From: "Katryna Cisek" <cisek.2(a)osu.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] save reply log from chimera python script To: "Tom Goddard" <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Message-ID: <1bd6604c0810130922m35b031c4sc4694d7e46f6ce81(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Chimera Users, Could someone please point out the syntax error in this code: def save_reply_log("/tmp/tmplog.txt"): <<--- error should be here based on error info from chimera import dialogs r = dialogs.find('reply') text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') f = open('/tmp/tmplog.txt', 'w') f.write(text) f.close() ---------------------------chimera error info from reply log------------------------------- <type 'exceptions.SyntaxError'> Exception in Tk callback Function: <function command at 0x132d230> (type: <type 'function'>) Args: () Traceback (innermost last): File "CHIMERA/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Pmw/Pmw_1_3/lib/PmwBase.py", line 1747, in __call__ None File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/baseDialog.py", line 244, in command None File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/baseDialog.py", line 453, in OK None File "CHIMERA/share/OpenSave/__init__.py", line 161, in Apply None File "CHIMERA/share/SimpleSession/gui.py", line 41, in _openCB None File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 1344, in open None File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 787, in _openPython None <type 'exceptions.SyntaxError'>: invalid syntax (refalignrotatewholesymmetrysavelog.py, line 58) -------------- Thanks, Katryna On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > Hi Katryna, > > I don't think there is a command to save the text in the reply log. In the > Python function the variable path is the path to the file, for example > "/tmp/mylog.txt". > > Tom > > > Katryna Cisek wrote: >> >> Hi Chimera users, >> Is there a new way to save the reply log from a chimera python script, >> other than below (from Chimera Archive 2006)? >> >> def save_reply_log(path): >> from chimera import dialogs >> r = dialogs.find('reply') >> text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') >> f = open(path, 'w') >> f.write(text) >> f.close() >> >> If not, what is the filename given to the reply log in this function? >> Is it possible to >> designate the name? >> Thanks, >> Katryna >> _______________________________________________ >> Chimera-users mailing list >> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >> > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:02:10 -0700 From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Pruning pdb graphically To: "Francesco Pietra" <chiendarret(a)gmail.com> Cc: chimera <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <DD923F0C-8D7F-478E-991A-FD8E054B7E81(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Francesco, As usual in Chimera, there are several possible ways to do this, and what is "best" depends not only on what you plan to do with the result, but also your personal preferences and working style. I would probably start by using either zones or Find Clashes/Contacts with a conservative cutoff to select all the residues you want to keep, which would probably also include several extra residues. If you used Find Clashes/Contacts, one option selects the contacting atoms, and you would press the keyboard up arrow to promote the selection to whole residues. <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/midas/atom_spec.html#zones > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/findclash/findclas h.html > Next, invert the selection (for example with Select... Invert (all models)) to include the residues you do NOT want, then undisplay them (for example with Actions... Atoms/Bonds... hide). Then you can manually get rid of the few extra residues here and there: Ctrl-click to select one atom or bond in an unwanted residue, press keyboard up arrow to promote to whole residue, undisplay as before. Repeat as needed. I don't know if you meant you wanted to just undisplay atoms or actually delete them. If you wanted to delete them: you could save PDB(s) and choose the option to include only the atoms that are displayed. Alternatively, you could use the approach described above except instead of undisplaying atoms, deleting atoms (for example with Actions... Atoms/ Bonds... Delete) and then save PDB(s). <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.ht ml#deletion > <http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/savemodel.html#pdb> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu UCSF Computer Graphics Lab (Chimera team) and Babbitt Lab Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/meng/index.html On Oct 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > I would like to remove several parts from a complex protein, just > leaving the portion where a complex has been created with amberscore. > Which is the besr way in Chimera, while observing the pruning on the > screen? > Thanks > francesco pietra ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:49:43 -0700 From: Thomas Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] save reply log from chimera python script To: Katryna Cisek <cisek.2(a)osu.edu> Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Message-ID: <48F38A37.5080803(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Katryna, The original code defines a function. You leave it unchanged and add a line at the end to call it as follows. Tom def save_reply_log(path): from chimera import dialogs r = dialogs.find('reply') text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') f = open(path, 'w') f.write(text) f.close() save_reply_log("/tmp/tmplog.txt") Katryna Cisek wrote: > Hi Chimera Users, > Could someone please point out the syntax error in this code: > > def save_reply_log("/tmp/tmplog.txt"): <<--- error should be here > based on error info > from chimera import dialogs > r = dialogs.find('reply') > text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') > f = open('/tmp/tmplog.txt', 'w') > f.write(text) > f.close() > > ---------------------------chimera error info from reply > log------------------------------- > > <type 'exceptions.SyntaxError'> Exception in Tk callback > Function: <function command at 0x132d230> (type: <type 'function'>) > Args: () > Traceback (innermost last): > File "CHIMERA/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Pmw/Pmw_1_3/lib/PmwBase.py", > line 1747, in __call__ > None > File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/baseDialog.py", line 244, in command > None > File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/baseDialog.py", line 453, in OK > None > File "CHIMERA/share/OpenSave/__init__.py", line 161, in Apply > None > File "CHIMERA/share/SimpleSession/gui.py", line 41, in _openCB > None > File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 1344, in open > None > File "CHIMERA/share/chimera/__init__.py", line 787, in _openPython > None > <type 'exceptions.SyntaxError'>: invalid syntax > (refalignrotatewholesymmetrysavelog.py, line 58) > > -------------- > > Thanks, > Katryna > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >> Hi Katryna, >> >> I don't think there is a command to save the text in the reply log. In the >> Python function the variable path is the path to the file, for example >> "/tmp/mylog.txt". >> >> Tom >> >> >> Katryna Cisek wrote: >>> Hi Chimera users, >>> Is there a new way to save the reply log from a chimera python script, >>> other than below (from Chimera Archive 2006)? >>> >>> def save_reply_log(path): >>> from chimera import dialogs >>> r = dialogs.find('reply') >>> text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') >>> f = open(path, 'w') >>> f.write(text) >>> f.close() >>> >>> If not, what is the filename given to the reply log in this function? >>> Is it possible to >>> designate the name? >>> Thanks, >>> Katryna >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> >> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Chimera-users mailing list Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users End of Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 12 *********************************************

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Re: [Chimera-users] Chimera-users Digest, Vol 66, Issue 13, 1. Regarding blender ( Dr. Jean-Didier Mar?chal )
by Jonathan Hilmer 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

> 1. Regarding blender ( Dr. Jean-Didier Mar?chal ) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:16:29 +0200 > From: " Dr. Jean-Didier Mar?chal " <jeandidier.marechal(a)uab.cat> > Subject: [Chimera-users] Regarding blender > To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: <004a01c92e18$37236890$a56a39b0$%marechal(a)uab.cat> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi guys, > > I saw on the mailing list some information on exporting/importing 3D files. > However, I can't really figure out what would be the best way to export > chimera scene so that blender can import them. > > Is the x3d format the best? Which plug-in do you use? Is there another way > better? > > Cheers, > JD Quite a while ago I wrote a VRML importer for Blender that was specifically designed for Chimera-generated surfaces. It worked acceptably, but the X3D importer mentioned previously (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=107126) looks like a much better overall solution. If that importer isn't working for some particular aspect of a Chimera scene, I could probably help adapt it to get what you're looking for. The only other good solution I know of is to import your structures directly into Blender, and use Blender to generate the scene from the base primitives. That approach gets very complicated for representations such as helices, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have very specific needs. Jonathan

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save reply log from chimera python script
by Katryna Cisek 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

Hi Chimera users, Is there a new way to save the reply log from a chimera python script, other than below (from Chimera Archive 2006)? def save_reply_log(path): from chimera import dialogs r = dialogs.find('reply') text = r.text.get('1.0', 'end') f = open(path, 'w') f.write(text) f.close() If not, what is the filename given to the reply log in this function? Is it possible to designate the name? Thanks, Katryna

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Pruning pdb graphically
by Francesco Pietra 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

I would like to remove several parts from a complex protein, just leaving the portion where a complex has been created with amberscore. Which is the besr way in Chimera, while observing the pruning on the screen? Thanks francesco pietra

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Re: [Chimera-users] Helix-Numbers
by skmolugu＠miners.utep.edu 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Hi, I was wondering if there is a way in chimera for numbering the helices in the map fitted with coordinates. I Basically wanted to explain the location of helix in the map by means of numbering it, so that it will be easy for me to explain in my paper. thank you very much for your time, sudheer.

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Printing on white background
by Francesco Pietra 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

When mapping protein residues around a ligand I would like to have a printout of the enlarged binding site area, so as to put remarks by pencil on the printout. However, on a white background, in order to save ink. Is that a problem of working out the image (I have Gimp only, of which I never gained expertise), or can Chimera provide directly? Thanks francesco pietra

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Re: [Chimera-users] problem of sleap for solvation
by Eric Pettersen 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Hi JD, I am now able to reproduce your problem. It should be fixed in the next daily build. You can fix it in your build directly by copying C: \Archivos de programa\Chimera\inst\cygwin1.dll into C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe . --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I followed your instructions. I cleaned my previous chimera, > installed 08/10/2008 build, fetch for 1gcn, went to > ToolsàAmberàsolvate. Asked from 4ang box, with TIP3PBOX. The > hydrogens have therefore been built but then it came with the same > message: > > Terminii for #0 determined from SEQRES records > Chain-initial residues that are actual N terminii: HIS 1.A > Chain-initial residues that are not actual N terminii: > Chain-final residues that are actual C terminii: THR 29.A > Chain-final residues that are not actual C terminii: > 15 hydrogen bonds > Hydrogens added > > tempDir: d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmpesjllr > command: ['C:\\Archivos de programa\\Chimera\\bin\\amber10\\exe\ > \sleap', '-f', 'd:\\docume~1\\jean\\config~1\\temp\\tmpesjllr\ > \solvate.cmd'] > Running sleap command: C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin > \amber10\exe\sleap -f d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmpesjllr > \solvate.cmd > Failure running sleap > Check reply log for details > > Best, > JD > > De: Eric Pettersen [mailto:pett@cgl.ucsf.edu] > Enviado el: jueves, 09 de octubre de 2008 2:57 > Para: "Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal" > CC: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Asunto: Re: [Chimera-users] problem of sleap for solvation > > Hi JD, > I tested solvating 1gcn with the Windows daily build and > it worked fine. You shouldn't need to install all those things you > tried. You have to realize that when Chimera runs sleap that > various environment variables are set that will cause sleap to find > files that it won't find it you run it standalone without those > environment variables set. > Can you try installing a "clean" version of the daily > build and see if you can solvate 1gcn (4 angstrom box) without > error? If you get an error, save the contents of the reply log and > mail it to me. If you don't get an error then try your structure. > If that fails, you will have to send it to me if I'm going to have a > chance to debug the problem... > > --Eric > > Eric Pettersen > UCSF Computer Graphics Lab > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu > > > On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > I tried yesterday's build on windows and tested the solvation plugin. > I had a first crash that reply log message I give here: > > command: ['C:\\Archivos de > programa\\Chimera\\bin\\amber10\\exe\\sleap', '-f', > 'd:\\docume~1\\jean\\config~1\\temp\\tmp7wpvvm\\solvate.cmd'] > Running sleap command: C:\Archivos de > programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap -f > d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp7wpvvm\solvate.cmd > Failure running sleap > Check reply log for details > > Running C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap alone, > I saw > that cygwin1.dll was missing. So I installed it in the same directory. > > Then came a second crash: > > tempDir: d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp6m0sm0 > command: ['C:\\Archivos de > programa\\Chimera\\bin\\amber10\\exe\\sleap', '-f', > 'd:\\docume~1\\jean\\config~1\\temp\\tmp6m0sm0\\solvate.cmd'] > Running sleap command: C:\Archivos de > programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap -f > d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp6m0sm0\solvate.cmd > (solvate) [gtkleap]$ source leaprc.ff03 > (solvate) Error: can not find file leaprc.ff03 in all > the search > path. > Failure running sleap > Check reply log for details > > Though I located the leaprc.ff03 file in another directory and > copied it in > the running one, I can not pass over this problem. > > All the best! > > JD > > > *************************************************** > Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal > Lecturer > Computational Bioorganic and Bioionorganic Chemistry @ Transmet > Unitat de Química Física > Departament de Química > Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona > Edifici C.n. > 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) > Tel: +34.935814936 > e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list > Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >

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export scene to maya, obj, iges, stl, dwg-dxp?
by Eli Kuslansky 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Hi Greg, I'm trying to export proteins using Chimera to a Maya file for animations and presentation, but when I export to an .obj file it has no geometry. How can I assure there is geometry in the file? Best regards, Eli Kuslansky

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problem of sleap for solvation
by Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Dear all, I tried yesterday's build on windows and tested the solvation plugin. I had a first crash that reply log message I give here: command: ['C:\\Archivos de programa\\Chimera\\bin\\amber10\\exe\\sleap', '-f', 'd:\\docume~1\\jean\\config~1\\temp\\tmp7wpvvm\\solvate.cmd'] Running sleap command: C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap -f d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp7wpvvm\solvate.cmd Failure running sleap Check reply log for details Running C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap alone, I saw that cygwin1.dll was missing. So I installed it in the same directory. Then came a second crash: tempDir: d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp6m0sm0 command: ['C:\\Archivos de programa\\Chimera\\bin\\amber10\\exe\\sleap', '-f', 'd:\\docume~1\\jean\\config~1\\temp\\tmp6m0sm0\\solvate.cmd'] Running sleap command: C:\Archivos de programa\Chimera\bin\amber10\exe\sleap -f d:\docume~1\jean\config~1\temp\tmp6m0sm0\solvate.cmd (solvate) [gtkleap]$ source leaprc.ff03 (solvate) Error: can not find file leaprc.ff03 in all the search path. Failure running sleap Check reply log for details Though I located the leaprc.ff03 file in another directory and copied it in the running one, I can not pass over this problem. All the best! JD *************************************************** Dr. Jean-Didier Maréchal Lecturer Computational Bioorganic and Bioionorganic Chemistry @ Transmet Unitat de Química Física Departament de Química Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona Edifici C.n. 08193 Cerdanyola (Barcelona) Tel: +34.935814936 e-mail: JeanDidier.Marechal(a)uab.es

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coloring seperate domains
by Anindito Sen 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

HI all I was wondering how to color the c and n terminals of the crystal structure docked in the density map different. Thanks Dr. Anindito Sen (Ph.D) Research Associate , Dept. of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia Box 800733 Charlottesville, VA 22908

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"extended" Zone specifier
by Francesco Pietra 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

What I would like to do is a global search of which residues of model #0 are within a certain distance from which residues of model #1. Where "model" stands for a protein in both cases. That would save time in simulations of docking (not using DOCK) between proteins. I can locate with Chimera key residues, but their number is large. Thanks francesco pietra

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incorporate chimera commands into a shell script
by shyamala 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi, I am fairly new to Chimera. I am trying to calculate the RMSD of the heavy atoms across two different ligand (small molecule) coordinate files. I don't need a least square fit performed, hence using rmsd as opposed to match. I have to do this comparison for around 200 docked conformations against the native ligand conformation, hence I am thinking shell script that can call chimera to execute this command is the way to go. I am not sure how to first select the two small molecules and then use the rmsd command when I start chimera in nogui mode. Any help, examples, pointers will be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot, Shyamala

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Re: [Chimera-users] symmetric fitting
by Tom Goddard 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi Sudheer, This means your GroEL map does not have the cylinder axis along z. When you press the Orient button in the volume dialog you can see the orientation, the screen horizontal axis is x, the screen vertical axis is y, and in/out of the screen is z. I've attached a Python script that can produce the symmetry matrices for different cylinder axes. You run it by opening it in Chimera and the output is seen in the Reply Log (Favorites menu). You'll need to edit the script to use the correct axis. Tom skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu wrote: > Hi Tom, > I have used the matrix file you have gave me and could succesfully generate the coordinates file. After saving the pdb file with the new coordinates, I reopened the saved pdb file that has 14 subunits and it is turns out to be perpendicular to map that has been used. How can I avoid this problem? > thank you very much for your time, > sincerely, > sudheer. > ---------------------------------------- > >> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:06:32 -0700 >> From: goddard(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> To: skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu >> CC: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >> Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] symmetric fitting >> >> Hi Sudheer, >> >> Figuring out the symmetry matrices for using the symmetric fitting >> capability >> >> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/tutorials/volumetour/volumetour.html#symcop… >> >> requires some work. First note that the symmetry matrices you want are >> those that transform (rotate and shift) the volume data to an identical >> configuration. >> >> Your case is 2 stacked 7-mer rings. Assuming the z axis is the >> symmetry axis of the map (need to set origin so the center of the >> cylinder is at xyz = 0,0,0 in the volume dialog Coordinates panel) you >> could just compute the needed rotation matrices >> >> cos(a), sin(a), 0 >> -sin(a), cos(a), 0 >> 0, 0, 1 >> >> Could write a script (python script attached) or use a calculator. Also >> you want to flip around x axis by 180 degrees to get 7 more rotations >> with the two 7-member rings exchanged. With that approach I get the >> following lines to add to the PDB file: >> >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 0 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 0 -0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 0 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 1 0.623490 0.781831 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 1 -0.781831 0.623490 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 1 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 2 -0.222521 0.974928 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 2 -0.974928 -0.222521 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 2 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 3 -0.900969 0.433884 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 3 -0.433884 -0.900969 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 3 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 4 -0.900969 -0.433884 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 4 0.433884 -0.900969 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 4 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 5 -0.222521 -0.974928 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 5 0.974928 -0.222521 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 5 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 6 0.623490 -0.781831 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 6 0.781831 0.623490 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 6 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 7 1.000000 -0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 7 -0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 7 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 8 0.623490 -0.781831 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 8 -0.781831 -0.623490 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 8 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 9 -0.222521 -0.974928 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 9 -0.974928 0.222521 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 9 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 10 -0.900969 -0.433884 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 10 -0.433884 0.900969 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 10 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 11 -0.900969 0.433884 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 11 0.433884 0.900969 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 11 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 12 -0.222521 0.974928 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 12 0.974928 0.222521 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 12 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT1 13 0.623490 0.781831 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT2 13 0.781831 -0.623490 0.000000 0.000000 >> REMARK 350 BIOMT3 13 0.000000 0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000 >> >> If your map origin is not the center of symmetry or an x-axis flip is >> not a symmetry then these matrices won't work. You can try to set the >> correct origin -- the right value can be found with some tricky use of >> the output of the Fit in Map tool, fitting one copy of the map into >> another copy. Or you could fit one copy of the map to another and use >> the matrixget command to output that symmetry matrix to a file, then do >> that for all symmetries to create the needed matrix text. >> >> As you see this process has not yet been made easy. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> skmolugu(a)miners.utep.edu wrote: >> >>> HI, >>> In the symmetric fitting model session that explains about the symmetry generation, i did not understand the method to generate the matrix. I am working on a chaperonin protein called GroEL. It has 14 subunits with seven fold symmetry. can you please explain me how to update the pdb and the matrix values that i need to put in the pdb file. >>> thankyou, >>> sudheer >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chimera-users mailing list >>> Chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>> http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users >>> # Chimera script to print symmetry matrices for GroEL 14-mer. format = '''REMARK 350 BIOMT1 %3d %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f REMARK 350 BIOMT2 %3d %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f REMARK 350 BIOMT3 %3d %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f %10.6f''' axis = (0,0,1) import Matrix as m flip = m.rotation_from_axis_angle((1,0,0), 180) # 180 degree rotation about x. flip = [r + (0,) for r in flip] # Zero translation. for i in range(14): a = 360.0*i/7.0 t = m.rotation_from_axis_angle(axis, a) # Rotation by i/7 turn about z. t = [r + (0,) for r in t] # Zero translation. if i >= 7: t = m.multiply_matrices(flip, t) # Exchange top and bottom ring. print format % ((i,) + t[0] + (i,) + t[1] + (i,) + t[2])

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obtaining rotation angles
by Jaap Brink 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hi, I'm trying to figure out how I can obtain angles from chimera. I have a 3D object that I have to rotate in order to see certain features. I'd like to know those angles. Is there is a way to get this info? Thanks in advance, Jaap Brink

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Re: [Chimera-users] symmetric fitting
by skmolugu＠miners.utep.edu 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

HI, In the symmetric fitting model session that explains about the symmetry generation, i did not understand the method to generate the matrix. I am working on a chaperonin protein called GroEL. It has 14 subunits with seven fold symmetry. can you please explain me how to update the pdb and the matrix values that i need to put in the pdb file. thankyou, sudheer

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Failure of Surface Display
by Charles Letner, Ph.D. 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

Hello, I am trying to display a surface using the Actions > Surface>Show menu. The surface is not displaying and the following error is in the reply: C:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\mscalc.exe 1.400000 2.000000 1 Calculation of some surface components failed (code 5). Falling back to single-component calculation. C:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\mscalc.exe 1.400000 2.000000 0 Surface calculation failed, mscalc returned code 5 I am using Chimera version: production version 1 build 2540 2008/07/09 Platform is Windows Vista 64 bit. The file I am working with contains 2 subunits. If I split the two subunits into separate files and open individually in the same session, the surfaces display without any issue. I am trying to show the surface of the two subunits associated, not the surface of each individual subunit. Any help will be appreciated. Cheers, Chuck

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Re: [Chimera-users] Failure of Surface Display - Additional Info
by Charles Letner, Ph.D. 04 Oct '08

04 Oct '08

I just installed the latest daily build (1.2562) and get the same error. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Letner, Ph.D. To: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:59 AM Subject: Failure of Surface Display Hello, I am trying to display a surface using the Actions > Surface>Show menu. The surface is not displaying and the following error is in the reply: C:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\mscalc.exe 1.400000 2.000000 1 Calculation of some surface components failed (code 5). Falling back to single-component calculation. C:\Program Files (x86)\Chimera\bin\mscalc.exe 1.400000 2.000000 0 Surface calculation failed, mscalc returned code 5 I am using Chimera version: production version 1 build 2540 2008/07/09 Platform is Windows Vista 64 bit. The file I am working with contains 2 subunits. If I split the two subunits into separate files and open individually in the same session, the surfaces display without any issue. I am trying to show the surface of the two subunits associated, not the surface of each individual subunit. Any help will be appreciated. Cheers, Chuck

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