October 2024 - ChimeraX-users - RBVI Mailing Lists

Re: 3d glasses free monitors from acer....
by Tom Goddard 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Hi Krish, I would hope the Acer SpatialLabs 3D display could render with the standard sequential stereo used with old LCD shutter glasses or polarized glasses systems. ChimeraX can output that using command "camera stereo". But I didn't seen any indication in searching online that they support that. Nor did I see any mention of them supporting the standard side-by-side stereo format which ChimeraX can also output (camera sbs). I would think the display would handle these format because 3D games use those. How could they not make it work with 3D games? What I did see online is that it works with OpenXR which is what virtual reality headsets use. That makes sense because the display offers eye tracking and the sequential or side-by-side stereo methods would not be able to use the eye tracking to change the viewing angle as you moved your head, while software that uses OpenXR will allow that. ChimeraX can uses OpenXR, command "xr on". I did not see online what software you use with the display to work with OpenXR. It would need some SpatialLabs OpenXR display control software running on your computer. Here is a bit of discussion about trying to use this display with another 3D app called Slicer https://discourse.slicer.org/t/spatiallabs-stereoscopic-display/34800 where the poster did get Slicer's OpenXR to show 3D with the display. Let me know what you figure out. If you find some technical reference for the display online that explains the types of 3D input it accepts or how to set it up to work with applications that use OpenXR, I'd be interested in seeing that documentation. If it works well my lab might get a display. Tom > On Oct 16, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > I got a new 3d glasses free monitor. > Acer 27" SpatialLabs View Pro Stereoscopic 3D Monitor - Black - FF.R2CAA.002 - Computer Monitors - CDW.com <https://www.cdw.com/product/acer-27-spatiallabs-view-pro-stereoscopic-3d-mo…> > I used the spatiallabs (GO app) software to see stereoscopic 3d images from Chimerax, coot(mapfitting) amd MOE. Seemd to work fine. > The Go app converts any 2d to 3d stereo when the program displaying is set to fullscreen. > The Spatiallabs software from acer has plugins for unity , blender and a few other software suites. > The Go app is compatible with *.obj and Gitf 3d formats. I tried those from chimerax and the result is spectacular. > Is there any possibility of getting a chimerax plugin? > Regards > Krish > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:22 PM > To: Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> > Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] 3d glasses free monitors from acer.... > > [EXTERNAL] > > Hi Krishnan, > > We do not have any of the new 3D laptops to try ChimeraX. Let us know if it works. You will probably use the ChimeraX command "camera stereo" to put it into 3D model on one of these 3D laptops. > > Samsung also showed a 3D monitor at January's Consumer Electronics Show with rumors that it may come out this summer. Also don't know if ChimeraX will work on that display. > > While I think ChimeraX stereo is likely to work on these displays a problem with past stereo that used shutter glasses was that only workstation graphics cards could do stereo in a window, meaning that part of the display is showing 3D (e.g. the ChimeraX graphics pane) while the rest is showing 2D. This required special graphics driver support only offered in the workstation cards (like Nvidia Quadro) and not in the consumer cards. Full screen stereo where everything is rendered in 3D was available on consumer cards mostly for video games where everything is in 3D including user interface elements. > > Let us know if you get something working. > > Tom > > > > On Jul 12, 2024, at 8:56 AM, Krishnan Raman via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: > > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/22d26e4a/CHuCkVzwKkGj1oPV_qX5bQ?u=https://www.… > > maybe we can see chimerax😊 in 3d in these… they do have a plugin for unity.. Iam trying get one of these to try things out. > > Krishnan Raman > Executive Director, Structural Biology > BioCryst Pharmaceuticals > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This email, including any attachments, may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. 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Chimerax Download
by Michael Gerber 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

To whom this may concern, Would it be possible to get the Chimerax zip download file for Windows? I have a school project I need to do it for and my presentation is coming up. Please and thank you! Best Michael

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Odp.: problems with accessing server
by Leszek Wawiórka 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

I have just found information (https://x.com/ucsfchimerax) that the server is down for several days so the problem seems to be resolved 😉. Best regards Leszek ________________________________ Od: Leszek Wawiórka Wysłane: środa, 16 października 2024 08:20:32 Do: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Temat: problems with accessing server Hallo there, I'm contacting You because I encounter permanent problem with my connection with your server. I would like to re-install both chimera and chimeraX packages but I can't get to your home webpage. There is error just saying ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT. I have checked the connection with ping www.cgl.ucsf.edu<http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu> saying that there is no delay. It seems that I can't connect with UCSF server through port 443. The port works for other servers. I have checked it for several different internet connections. Please advise me why its like that? and what is more important, is there any way to fix it somehow. I'd really appreciate your help. I look forward to hearing from you. All the best Leszek Wawiórka Department of Molecular Biologu University of Maria Curie-Sklodowska in Lublin, Poland dr Leszek Wawiórka<https://www.umcs.pl/pl/addres-book-employee,2923,pl.html> Uniwersytet Marii Curie-Skłodowskiej w Lublinie www.umcs.pl UMCS dba o środowisko. Jeśli nie musisz, nie drukuj tego dokumentu. Mejl może zawierać informację poufne, objęte prawem własności intelektualnej lub tajemnicą Uniwersytetu Marii Curie-Skłodowskiej w Lublinie. Jeśli nie jesteś jego adresatem, powiadom o tym nadawcę i usuń wiadomość. Wykorzystanie treści mejla lub załączników jest zakazane. Dziękujemy!

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Question regarding licensing, when publishing data.
by Russ, Peter 14 Oct '24

14 Oct '24

Hi, I used your software for parts in an article where I also cited your requested quotes. The publisher wanted to confirm our licensing. In my understanding licensing is not a problem, as I am with the university for Stuttgart and don't earn money with this article. It would be nice if you could confirm this. Sincerely Peter Russ

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Interface Residue Plot
by Reza Khayat 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

Hi, I'm hoping this question wasn't asked before. Is there a way to draw a dotted line between interacting residues? This would be similar to the Chain Interface graph that shows interaction between chains. Thanks. Best wishes, Reza Reza Khayat, PhD City College of New York Associate Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Co-Director NIH G-RISE program

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ChimeraX 1.8 release
by Elaine Meng 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

UCSF ChimeraX version 1.8 has been released! ChimeraX includes user documentation and is free for noncommercial use. Download for Windows, Linux, and MacOS from: https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/download.html Updates since version 1.7 (Dec 2023) include: - show worm depictions of attribute values (B-factor, conservation, etc.) using Render by Attribute tool or "cartoon byattribute" command - show attribute values with atomic radii using Render by Attribute or "size byattribute" - Select by Attribute graphical interface - Join Models generalized to any covalent bond (not just peptide) - show multiple alternate locations simultaneously with "altlocs show" - "pbond" command to create arbitrary pseudobonds - "measure contactarea" to report the area of one surface within a cutoff distance of another - Segmentations tool for interactive manual segmentation in 2D slice views, 3D (desktop), or 3D (VR) can be applied to any volume data, not just medical images; several fixes and ergonomic improvements including icons to assign/deassign mouse and VR hand-controller modes with a single click - set up and analyze batch AlphaFold predictions to search for protein-protein interactions (commands for advanced users who can run ColabFold directly on Linux) support for: - reading predicted aligned error (PAE) data from AlphaFold 3 - reading docking results from MOE - fetching atomic structures and maps from PDB-REDO - fetching/display of PDB NMR-STAR restraints For details, please see the ChimeraX change log: https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/wiki/ChangeLog On behalf of the team, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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saving a multi-model pdb with the subset of frames
by Enrico Martinez 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Dear Chimera-X users! I am dealing with the visualization of a trajectory provided as the multi-model pdb contanained 3000 frames in multi-model format. How can I extract every 5th frame from a multi-model PDB file and save the reduced set of frames into a new PDB file, such that the new file contains five times fewer frames ? I've tried to do it like I did with the netcdf files but it does not work open ./my.pdb structureModel #1 step 5 Many thanks in advance Enriico

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Support for _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise to display PAE matrices stored in ModelArchive
by Gerardo Tauriello 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX developers, Following up on discussions in https://github.com/chaidiscovery/chai-lab/issues/52 and the large amounts of models which have been deposited in ModelArchive (MA; https://modelarchive.org/) in the meantime, I would propose to support loading PAE (or other local-pairwise scores) values from ModelCIF files as used by MA. Here I link some examples which should capture most use cases: 1. ma-bak-cepc-0944<https://www.modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-bak-cepc-0944> includes 2 local-pairwise scores (PAE and "contact probability") and only stores scores for inter-chain residue-pairs. 2. ma-dm-hisrep-003<https://www.modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-hisrep-003> includes a full PAE matrix. 3. In all cases in MA, entries contain a single accompanying zip file which also contains the local pairwise scores which are extracted into a separate file to keep the main ModelCIF file at a manageable size. The linked modelcif_examples_for_chimerax.zip<https://sibcloud-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/gerardo_tauriello_sib_swi…> package includes pae_associated_file where the pairwise scores are directly in a separate file instead of being in a zip file and pae_in_main_file which includes the pairwise scores directly in the main ModelCIF file. Already now ChimeraX is able to parse the ma_qa_metric_local category in ModelCIF to do per-residue coloring for pLDDT etc which is awesome. To make sense of ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise one needs the following (I try to be detailed to simplify the implementation): 1. Parse ma_qa_metric and keep the IDs (_ma_qa_metric.id) for rows with ma_qa_metric.mode == "local-pairwise". If we want to restrict this to PAE matrices, one would additionally check that _ma_qa_metric.type == "PAE". 2. Look for the _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise category. There are 3 options on where to find it: * Directly in the main ModelCIF file (as in pae_in_main_file/003-Spombe_H3-H4_tetramer_DPB3.cif). * In a separate file via _ma_entry_associated_files (as in pae_associated_file/003-Spombe_H3-H4_tetramer_DPB3.cif). You can find the file via _ma_entry_associated_files.file_url for the _ma_entry_associated_files row with file_content == "local pairwise QA scores". * In a separate file via _ma_associated_archive_file_details (as in all MA entries such as ma-bak-cepc-0944 and ma-dm-hisrep-003). Procedure to get it: * Find row in _ma_associated_archive_file_details with file_content == "local pairwise QA scores" and keep archive_file_id and file_path. * Find zip file in _ma_entry_associated_files with id == archive_file_id and download via file_url. * Fetch file named file_path from that zip file. 3. Within the _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise extract scores for all given residue pairs for metric_id matching the desired IDs from step 1. Each residue is identified with model_id, label_asym_id, label_seq_id, and (redundantly) label_comp_id. There are no guarantees on the order of the data or completeness of the data but each referenced residue is guaranteed to exist in the atom_site category. Here is the current list of model sets in MA which include PAE matrices: ma-bak-cepc<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-bak-cepc>, ma-coffe-slac<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-coffe-slac>, ma-tbvar3d<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-tbvar3d>, ma-ornl-sphdiv<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-ornl-sphdiv>, ma-t3vr3<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-t3vr3>, ma-low-csi<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-low-csi>, ma-ombbaf2<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-ombbaf2>, ma-rap-bacsu<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-rap-bacsu>, ma-nmpfamsdb<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-nmpfamsdb>, ma-jd-viral<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-jd-viral>, ma-dm-prc<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-prc>, ma-dm-hisrep<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-hisrep>, ma-osf-ppp2r2a<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-osf-ppp2r2a>. All together MA has over 200'000 models with PAE matrices which all supplement the AFDB in some way (e.g. protein complexes, viral proteins and other proteins not covered in UniProt). It would be great to include support for ModelArchive's ModelCIF files in ChimeraX and I am happy to provide further information and help as needed. Regards, Gerardo

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Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient
by Tom Goddard 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

You want sym #3 H,8,120,10,-5 as indicated in the documentation https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/sym.html Tom > On Oct 9, 2024, at 2:50 PM, Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> wrote: > > Also when tryng to give the symetry explicitly I get an error. Perhaps I am using the wrong syntax (??) > > sym #3 sym-type H,8,120,10,-5 > Expected a keyword > > Thanks > > > H. > > > ___________________________________ > Hernando Sosa, PhD. > Dept. of Biochemistry > Albert Einstein College of Medicine > 1300 Morris Park Av. > Bronx NY 10461 > phone (718) 430-3456 > emai: hernando.sosa@einsteinmed. <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.org>edu > ___________________________________ > > > > From: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 5:41 PM > To: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > I need to explicitly give the symmetry (helical) because the command > > > measure symmetry #1 set true (#1 is my map) > > reports: > > No symmetry found for my_map.mrc > > > H. > > > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:32 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu List <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > Hi Hernando, > > Here is how to apply symmetry to one copy of an atomic model in a symmetric cryoEM map in ChimeraX. First use the "measure symmetry" command to determine the map symmetry, then use the "sym" command to make the symmetric copies of the atomic model. Here is an example > > open 8ofx > open 16862 from emdb > measure symmetry #2 set true > sym #1 symmetry #2 > > Tom > > > On Oct 9, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Thanks Elaine, > > I will try to do this with ChimeraX. What I am trying to to do is to generate symetry related copies of a model fitted into a density map using the sym command. I noticed that the only way to define the center of symetry to be centered on the density volume was using the option center #n (where n is the id of the voume density) but only after doing center and orient by pressing the buttons in the volume viewer. > > Although chimeraX is much more prowerful I still find hard to find the the equivalent in ChimeraX of some operations that I use often in Chimera. 😉 > > Thanks again, > > Best > > H. > > _ > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:04 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.edu>> > Cc: chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > > In Chimera, there may not be commands that do exactly the same thing as some button. You might look at "focus <model-number>" and "reset" (maybe only if one model is open, or they haven't been moved relative to one another?) but in my tests, they did not do exactly the same thing as those buttons. > > That's one reason ChimeraX is way better than Chimera! You can use the GUI and it shows the command that it used in the Log. > > Best, > Elaine > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. > UCSF Chimera(X) team > Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > > > > On Oct 8, 2024, at 1:38 PM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: > > > > Dear Chimera, > > > > What would be the equivalent commands to the Center and Orient buttons at the bottom of the Volume Viewer menu tab? > > > > Thanks > > > > H. > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list -- chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> > To unsubscribe send an email to chimera-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> > Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Oct 14-20 Chimera(X) website downtime
by Elaine Meng 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

Planned downtime for server maintenance: The Chimera and ChimeraX websites, Toolshed, web services (Blast Protein, Modeller, ...) and cgl.ucsf.edu e-mail will be unavailable starting Monday, October 14, 10 AM PDT and continuing for several days, potentially through the following weekend (October 14-20). Apologies for the inconvenience, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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