June 2024 - ChimeraX-users - RBVI Mailing Lists

Generic Linux installation package for ChimeraX 1.8
by Kumpula, Esa-Pekka 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

Dear ChimeraX team, I noticed that version 1.8 no longer comes with a "Generic Linux" installation package (unlike 1.7). I have been using this for a centralised installation on a network drive that has so far worked very well. Is this coming to 1.8 or is it discontinued? Cheers, Esa-Pekka -- Esa-Pekka Kumpula, PhD Senior Postdoctoral Researcher Laboratory of Structural Biology Institute of Biotechnology Helsinki Institute of Life Science HiLIFE University of Helsinki www.helsinki.fi/lsb<http://www.helsinki.fi/lsb>

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Bundles with dependencies
by Vincent Mallet 24 Jun '24

24 Jun '24

Hello, Thanks for the tool and the tutorials. I have a machine learning tool based on pytorch to analyse cryo-EM data. I was hoping to package (bundle) it for Chimerax and started to follow tutorials, but I don't think you mention the right way to set up a code environment with depencies. I see a numpy import in the save_new_format tutorial, but it's not listed in the "dependencies" section of the xml file. I guess my question is : can I add arbitrary packages in a bundle ? Is there a way to install pip packages only ? Should I copy all source code in the folder and deal with my imports like that ? In particular, I am thinking of torch that is not so easy to replace... I am hoping you can help me, thanks in advance for the help ! Best, Vincent

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Troubleshooting MOLE Channel Visualizations
by Josh Gonzalez 24 Jun '24

24 Jun '24

Hello, I am a newer user of ChimeraX and am having some trouble creating visualizations to characterize a channel of interest. I began by following the procedure outlined in the tutorial "MOLE Channel Coloring by Property" but quickly ran into some issues with my own channel. This led me to try the click-to-execute links for the example in the tutorial and I ran into the same problem. It seems ChimeraX cannot accept .json files that are not Alphafold PAE maps, meaning there is no way to visualize the results of the MOLEsever analysis. I have attempted parsing data from the .json into a usable file format such as a .bild or a .pdb in a separate anaconda kernel, and while I am able to get coordinates for a superimposed visualization, they are not selectable atoms that can be color-coded or manipulated as they are in the procedures following the "open molepore-1bl8.json" command. I know this is because I have not found a way to parse all of the useful data from the .json file into another format, but I do not see exactly how I would go about doing so. Is there a way to get ChimeraX to accept a .json file that is not a PAE plot without the need for parsing data or changing format? Thank you so much for the help!

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Question
by Suwisanto, Natasha 24 Jun '24

24 Jun '24

Hello, My name is Natasha Suwisanto. I’ve been using UCSF Chimera X and AlphaFold servers for a personal research project to mutate a GPCR protein. I just had a quick question. I was mutating a structure using the Rotamer tool on ChimeraX. I mutated a single amino acid (Tyrosine) to a Proline using the Richardson Common Atom library. However, when I ran AlphaFold on it, the predicted 'best model' structure they gave me had a different amino acid (Leucine) on the position I previously mutated the Tyrosine to the Proline. I was just wondering if I did something wrong or if AlphaFold/ChimeraX works differently than I thought. Best, Natasha Suwisanto

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Installing ChimeraX on Linux without sudo
by Ricardo Righetto 24 Jun '24

24 Jun '24

Dear ChimeraX team, Is there any way to install ChimeraX >= 1.8 on Linux without admin rights, like a generic Linux version that I can unpack at an arbitrary location? Our system is running Ubuntu 22.04 more specifically. Thank you! -- Ricardo Diogo Righetto

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Help_saving
by Noriega, Heather 22 Jun '24

22 Jun '24

Hello, I have a question. I created this sphere nanoparticle and have been trying to save it as a PDB (the whole sphere). But when I save "selected atoms, " I try to re-open the PDB file. It only shows the original single Span-60 that was used. Is there a way to save the copies and nanoparticles as a whole so I can minimize them altogether? I attached the session below for your reference. Thanks, Happy Friday! Thank you, Heather Noriega PhD-Pharmaceutical Science student Howard University heather.noriega(a)bison.howard.edu 520-203-1883

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Re: Help_saving
by Elaine Meng 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

Sure, if you tell me that works. I wasn't sure if #2 had all 60 or just the other 59 and it would have been another several minutes experimenting. Elaine > On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:53 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> wrote: > > How about execute the second sym command with copies true on model #2 which has the first 60 copies? > > Tom > > >> On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >> >> Sigh, I was trying to enlist help in answering the question directly considering I've already spent hours messing around with it... especially if you think it is simple to explain. I don't think it is obvious to expect different numbers of copies just because you wanted them to be atomic instead of graphical. >> >> If she wants 3600 full atomic copies how would she do that?? >> >> Elaine >> >>> On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:35 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Elaine, >>> >>> If you don't use copies true, then the first sym command changes model #1 rendering to include 60 graphical clones, and then the second sym command also on model #1 makes 60 graphical clones of the previous 60 graphical clones, so you now have 3600 graphical clones in model #1. You can see this with "info #1" which says "3600 instances". >>> >>> If you use the "copies true" option then the sym command makes a new model #2 with 60 copies. The second sym command on #1 with copies true makes 60 more copies as model #3. Of course that is a very different result then the sequence without copies true because the copies true version makes new models instead of modifying the original model. >>> >>> This all makes sense to me. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tom, maybe you can figure it out?? >>>> >>>> OK I give up, I did extensive tests and can't figure it out either. I regenerated the original starting molecule (I think), attached as temp.pdb >>>> >>>> Then the overall result visible with the following, which is what she apparently wants (except with real atomic copies) although I worry it may have double copies in places, is a very packed-looking sphere: >>>> >>>> sym #1 i,2n5 center 20,20,20 >>>> sym #1 i,2n3 center 20,20,20 >>>> >>>> However if you start over with temp.pdb and then do the following, you get something much more patchy/holey >>>> >>>> sym #1 i,2n5 center 20,20,20 copies true >>>> sym #1 i,2n3 center 20,20,20 copies true >>>> >>>> I thought it might have something to do with copies replacing other copies but I tried with newModel true and still had seemingly the same issues. >>>> >>>> Maybe the more-packed appearance is actually a bug if sym w/o copies true makes more graphical copies of ones that are already graphical copies. >>>> >>>> Elaine >>>> >>>> <temp.pdb> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: "Noriega, Heather via ChimeraX-users" <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> >>>>> Subject: [chimerax-users] Re: Help_saving >>>>> Date: June 21, 2024 at 12:14:50 PM PDT >>>>> To: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> >>>>> Reply-To: "Noriega, Heather" <heather.noriega(a)bison.howard.edu> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> It is quite baffling to me why it does this. I am going to add different sessions to show you what I see. I have included each session to try and separate to explain myself and not confuse. Three of the sessions do not include the copies true command: (sym_2n3, sym_2n5, sym_both). The one with both (sym_2n3 and sym_2n5) gives me the niosome I am quite interested in with an aqueous and lipophilic compartment. I want to do a simple measure of the volume inside the large compartment, but would like to minimize the niosome as a whole first, hence needing a pdb file. However, I have done the same with the next three sessions, but adding copies true command and it is not coming up with the same result for sym_both_copiestrue. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps to try and understand what I am looking for, and maybe you have an answer as to why there are different results for Sym_both and Sym_both_copiestrue. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Heather Noriega >>>>> PhD-Pharmaceutical Science student >>>>> Howard University >>>>> heather.noriega(a)bison.howard.edu >>>>> 520-203-1883 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 2:33 PM Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>>> Hi Heather, >>>>> >>>>> I don't really understand why you needed two sym commands instead of one (must be something specific about your structure(s)), but whenever you want to actually save the PDB of any parts that "sym" adds you would need to include "copies true" when you add them. >>>>> >>>>> You could just do the experiment with and without it yourself and see what you get. Or save two separate PDB files, one from each command, to make sure you aren't getting duplicates of the same atoms exactly on top of each other from using sym twice. >>>>> >>>>> Elaine >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 2024, at 9:45 AM, Noriega, Heather via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not want to save the shape of a sphere. I was using that for something else while creating the nano. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, that is what I did wrong. I did not include the copies true command. I have a question. I used the commands: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sym #1 i,2n3 center 20,20,20 and Sym #1 2n5 center 20,20,20 to create the sphere. Would I have to add copies true to both commands? >>>>>> >>>>>> sym#1 i,2n3 center 20,20,20 copies true >>>>>> sym#1 i,2n5 center 20,20,20 copies true >>>>>> >>>>>> And then continue with the saving process for PDB >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Heather Noriega >>>>>> PhD-Pharmaceutical Science student >>>>>> Howard University >>>>>> heather.noriega(a)bison.howard.edu >>>>>> 520-203-1883 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 12:37 PM Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Heather, >>>>>> I can't tell what you are trying to save exactly but here are two issues: >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) when you used "sym" the Log said it was making graphical clones. (The log contents are included in the session file.) If you want full atomic copies instead of graphical clones you have to use "copies true" as explained in the help: >>>>>> <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/sym.html#copies> >>>>>> >>>>>> (2) The big sphere seems to be a surface model, and you can't save a surface model as PDB format. Maybe you used the "shape" command, which creates surface models. But I can't tell from your message whether you are trying to save that in the file or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this helps, >>>>>> Elaine >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. >>>>>> UCSF Chimera(X) team >>>>>> Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics >>>>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry >>>>>> University of California, San Francisco >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Noriega, Heather via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a question. I created this sphere nanoparticle and have been trying to save it as a PDB (the whole sphere). But when I save "selected atoms, " I try to re-open the PDB file. It only shows the original single Span-60 that was used. Is there a way to save the copies and nanoparticles as a whole so I can minimize them altogether? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I attached the session below for your reference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Happy Friday! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heather Noriega >>>>>>> PhD-Pharmaceutical Science student >>>>>>> Howard University >>>>>>> heather.noriega(a)bison.howard.edu >>>>>>> 520-203-1883 >>>>>>> <nano_span_60.cxs> >>>>> >>>> <sym_2n5_copiestrue.cxs> >>>> <sym_2n3_copiestrue.cxs> >>>> <sym_2n5.cxs> >>>> <sym_2n3.cxs> >>>> <sym_both.cxs> >>>> <sym_both_copiestrue.cxs> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu >>>>> Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/ >>>> >>> >> >> > >

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Sequence viewer colour by B factor
by isaphan＠uw.edu 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

How do I colour a sequence by B factor? There's an option to 'Load a sequence coloring file'. Sounds good, but how do I produce an .scf file from a structure coloured by B-factor ? There's a format explanation, but how do I get the actual data ? Grateful for any hints.

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question about coloring
by Artur Biela 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

dear all, I would like to color my structure (atoms) according to the LocalResolution of the map that the model is fitted in. There is a simple way to color a map according to the colors of the molecular model, but can it be done the other way around? best Artur =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Artur BIELA, PhD tel: +48-518-459-652 @: artur.biela(a)uj.edu.pl [cid:ced8e93e-4e29-47d8-b709-419b04837a3b] cryoEM faciliy manager SOLARIS National Synchrotron Radiation Centre Jagiellonian University Czerwone Maki 98, 30-392 Kraków www.synchrotron.pl<http://www.synchrotron.pl/> https://synchrotron.uj.edu.pl/en_GB/linie-badawcze/cryo-em

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Adjusting Torsion Angles
by Eleanor Streeper 20 Jun '24

20 Jun '24

Hi Chimera X, I hope you are well. I am a student at Swarthmore College and am currently trying to use Chimera X to adjust the torsion angles of glycans on a protein I have glycosylated. I tried using the same notation in your user guide, but the program says I am only entering 3 atom into the command bar. I attached images of the command and the numbering of those atoms (2nd entry in the angle/torsion measurement picture). I am trying to get the 2nd entry torsion to be 178.6 degrees. Can you let me know what I am doing wrong and how to adjust the torsion angle. Best, Ellie Streeper [image: Screenshot 2024-06-20 at 1.28.34 PM.png][image: Screenshot 2024-06-20 at 1.28.24 PM.png] [image: Screenshot 2024-06-20 at 1.35.46 PM.png]

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