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Re: [chimerax-users] Error reported by AlphaFold
by Tom Goddard 16 Feb '22

16 Feb '22

Hi Juntao, Yes, ChimeraX AlphaFold on Google Colab only handles about 1000 amino acids before running out of memory on the 5 year old GPUs (e.g. P100, K80, T4) with 16 Gbytes of GPU memory that they provide. This is a limitation of AlphaFold. Your 1500 amino acids would run fine on an Nvidia RTX 3090 GPU which has 24 Gbytes, or on higher-end GPUs like an Nvidia A40 with 48 Gbytes. These sequence size limits are a significant limitation of AlphaFold. Here is a web page I made showing AlphaFold runs that failed and succeeded and the largest sequences that worked in these tests on Colab was ~1100 residues, on an RTX 3090 it managed 2100 residues and on an A40 it got up to 3700 residues. https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/alphafold-jan2022/afspeed.html Tom > On Feb 16, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Juntao Yu <juntao_yu(a)g.harvard.edu> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Thank you for your email. I checked the log and realized the failure was indeed because of out of memory on Google Colab. The protein complex is about 1500 amino acids large so probably that is the reason. It’s good to know that it might take lots of memory for alphaFold to calculate large complexes. I will try to run the prediction on our clusters or lab computers with GPU instead then. Thank you. > > Best, > Juntao

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alphafold block
by Roberto Marabini 15 Feb '22

15 Feb '22

Hi, I would like to write a script that executes "alphafold predict SEQUENCE" and then postprocess the results. The script would be similar to: from chimerax.core.commands import run run(session, "alphafold predict %s" % sequence_data) # wait until alphafold is done # and postprocess the file best_model.pdb but I do not know how to implement the part "wait until alphafold is done" if, after launching alphafold, I create a loop similar to: === counter = 0 current_size = _getSize(file_path) while current_size !=_getSize(file_path) or _getSize(file_path)==0 or not os.path.exists(file_path): current_size =_getSize(file_path) time.sleep(60) counter += 1 if counter > 240: # break after four hours if file is not created break ==== the loop is executed as soon as the alphafold command has been sent to google, the alphafold-colab window is not shown until the loop is finished and therefore, alphafold execution never starts. So the question is: how can I write a script that waits until the command "alphafold predict ..." finishes and then executes some code. Thanks Roberto

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Re: [chimerax-users] error with open :: 'foreach' has no suffix
by Eric Pettersen 15 Feb '22

15 Feb '22

Yes, that was quite helpful. The 'foreach' option only became available starting with the 1.3 release. You are running 1.2.5, so you need to upgrade. --Eric > On Feb 14, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Rangarajan, Amith <Amith.Rangarajan(a)ucsf.edu> wrote: > > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > hi Eric, > > i have submitted a bug report > > > thanks > amith > From: Eric Pettersen <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:pett@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 3:15 PM > To: Rangarajan, Amith <Amith.Rangarajan(a)ucsf.edu <mailto:Amith.Rangarajan@ucsf.edu>> > Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] error with open :: 'foreach' has no suffix > > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > Hi Amith, > I don't care so much about the contents of your script per se — I'd like to see the contents of the log when the error occurs. Do this: run the command that generates the "'foreach' has no suffix" error and then use Help→Report A Bug and submit a bug report. That will include the contents of the log, which is what I need to see. Thanks! > > --Eric > >> On Feb 10, 2022, at 4:52 AM, Rangarajan, Amith <Amith.Rangarajan(a)ucsf.edu <mailto:Amith.Rangarajan@ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> >> This Message Is From an External Sender >> This message came from outside your organization. >> Dear Tom and Eric, >> >> I used notepad ++ to make sure that the cxc file was not a .txt ( i am on windows) and i am still getting the error ( foreach has no suffix) . i have attached my .cxc script . >> >> I am trying to read a set of .mae files and write a log file with RMSD and some distance measurements. >> >> I am new to chimera and would benefit a lot from your review of my script and possible fixes for this issue. >> >> thank a lot for your time. >> >> best regards, >> amith >> From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 10:36 AM >> To: PETTERSEN, ERIC <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:pett@cgl.ucsf.edu>> >> Cc: Rangarajan, Amith <Amith.Rangarajan(a)ucsf.edu <mailto:Amith.Rangarajan@ucsf.edu>> >> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] error with open :: 'foreach' has no suffix >> >> This Message Is From an External Sender >> This message came from outside your organization. >> Hi Eric, >> >> Not quite sure I understand your theory abut Amith's error. In current ChimeraX daily build using non-existent files with open command >> >> open something.cxc foreach somethingelse.py >> > No such file/path: something.cxc >> >> gives a very sensible error message and does not try to interpret "foreach" as a file name. >> >> Tom >> >>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Eric Pettersen via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Amith, >>> That error message indicates to me that the first file name (script.cxc) isn't being recognized as a ChimeraX command script file. So take a hard look at the command you typed and make sure that the suffix for that file is ".cxc" and not something mistyped like ".cxs" or whatnot. >>> >>> --Eric >>> >>> Eric Pettersen >>> UCSF Computer Graphics Lab >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:25 AM, Rangarajan, Amith via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This Message Is From an External Sender >>>> This message came from outside your organization. >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am trying to run a script and want to use foreach ( open script.cxc foreach *.pdb) to iterate through several pdb files in the working directory. >>>> >>>> I had no issues with running it earlier, but since last few tries, i am getting an error stating that ""'foreach' has no suffix"" >>>> >>>> I am not able to figure out how to debug this. >>>> >>>> I am using the latest build of chimerax. >>>> >>>> I will highly appreciate your suggestions on fixing this. >>>> >>>> best >>>> amith >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ChimeraX-users mailing list >>>> ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >>>> Manage subscription: >>>> https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users <https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ChimeraX-users mailing list >>> ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> Manage subscription: >>> https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users <https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users> >> <RMSD-distance-final.cxc>

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Re: [chimerax-users] error with open :: 'foreach' has no suffix
by Rangarajan, Amith 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

Dear Tom and Eric, I used notepad ++ to make sure that the cxc file was not a .txt ( i am on windows) and i am still getting the error ( foreach has no suffix) . i have attached my .cxc script . I am trying to read a set of .mae files and write a log file with RMSD and some distance measurements. I am new to chimera and would benefit a lot from your review of my script and possible fixes for this issue. thank a lot for your time. best regards, amith ________________________________ From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 10:36 AM To: PETTERSEN, ERIC <pett(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Cc: Rangarajan, Amith <Amith.Rangarajan(a)ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] error with open :: 'foreach' has no suffix Hi Eric, Not quite sure I understand your theory abut Amith's error. In current ChimeraX daily build using non-existent files with open command open something.cxc foreach somethingelse.py > No such file/path: something.cxc ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hi Eric, Not quite sure I understand your theory abut Amith's error. In current ChimeraX daily build using non-existent files with open command open something.cxc foreach somethingelse.py > No such file/path: something.cxc gives a very sensible error message and does not try to interpret "foreach" as a file name. Tom On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Eric Pettersen via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: Hi Amith, That error message indicates to me that the first file name (script.cxc) isn't being recognized as a ChimeraX command script file. So take a hard look at the command you typed and make sure that the suffix for that file is ".cxc" and not something mistyped like ".cxs" or whatnot. --Eric Eric Pettersen UCSF Computer Graphics Lab On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:25 AM, Rangarajan, Amith via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. Hi, I am trying to run a script and want to use foreach ( open script.cxc foreach *.pdb) to iterate through several pdb files in the working directory. I had no issues with running it earlier, but since last few tries, i am getting an error stating that ""'foreach' has no suffix"" I am not able to figure out how to debug this. I am using the latest build of chimerax. I will highly appreciate your suggestions on fixing this. best amith _______________________________________________ ChimeraX-users mailing list ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> Manage subscription: https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users _______________________________________________ ChimeraX-users mailing list ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> Manage subscription: https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users

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Models panel selecting
by William Hofsøy 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

Hi, The checkboxes for selecting models in the "Models" panel can't select multiple models without first selecting their parent model and then unchecking all the other models. So I would like to request that it would be possible to select multiple models somehow, either shift clicking or maybe just by default as is what I would expect from them being checkboxes. Best Regards, William

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Error reported by AlphaFold
by Juntao Yu 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

Dear ChimeraX community, I am a graduate student from Harvard Medical School who recently became interested in using AlphaFold-Multimer to predict protein complex structures of my interest. I have been tried a few times of predicting one protein complex and I was able to finish all MSA. However, when AlphaFold starts predicting the structure, all five models were reported as “error”. It is surprising to me because it is known that these two proteins should form a complex. I noticed in the script on the line is: “print ('\nAlphaFold generated an error computing %s, error logged to %s\n'% (model_name, error_log_path))”. The results printed exactly what this line says. I am wondering whether it means the Multimer is not able to predict this complex structure? Is there any tutorial that I can find to change parameters in order to try to improve and get a structure? Thanks, Juntao ------------------------------------------ Juntao Yu | Ph.D. candidate Moazed Lab Department of Cell Biology Harvard Medical School 240 Longwood Avenue Boston, MA 02115

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Issues with download
by Clara Kjerfve 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

Hello, I have downloaded the updated daily version of your software but am unable to open the app. I have updated to the newest software and still not able to open it. Can you please send me some steps on how to proceed. Thank you. Clara Kjerfve

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color submodels using a palette
by vincent Chaptal 14 Feb '22

14 Feb '22

Dear all, I have a pdb with 20 submodels inside (NMR type) that opens well in chimeraX. I would like to color each submodels individually, using a palette accross these models. For example from model #1.1 in red to model #1.20 in blue. I couldn't find the command online, does it exist in ChimeraX? Thank you Vincent -- Vincent Chaptal, PhD Director of GdR APPICOM Drug Resistance and Membrane Proteins Lab MMSB -UMR5086 7 passage du Vercors 69007 LYON FRANCE +33 4 37 65 29 01 http://www.appicom.cnrs.fr http://mmsb.cnrs.fr/en/

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Re: [chimerax-users] python script for measuring distance
by Rangarajan, Amith 13 Feb '22

13 Feb '22

Hello everyone, Please see my script below: import os import sys from chimerax.core.commands import run as rc target_folder = '/wynton/home/jacobson/avranga1008/Documents/0-combo' os.chdir(target_folder) home =os.getcwd() all = os.listdir() xp_distance_file = os.path.join(home,'xp-distance.log') print_to_screen = sys.stdout mae_files =[] for f in all: if f.endswith('.mae'): mae_files.append(f) print(f'working on {f}') sys.stdout = open(xp_distance_file,'a') rc(session,"open " + f) rc(session,"measure center #1.1 & ligand mark true") rc(session,"measure center #1.1 :310,335,728,759 mark true") rc(session,"distance #2 #3") rc(session,"close") sys.stdout = print_to_screen print(f'completed writing xp-distance values to {xp_distance_file} ; now moving to next loop') for f in mae_files: line = f + '\n' open('file_list.txt','a').write(line) print("loop is complete") exit() I am curently using stdout to write the distance values to a file .I am currently running it on command line [cid:68afa919-1a35-470f-808c-242e97c85957] it seems like a round about way to do it. The output file has lot of special characters and it takes a bit of effort using regex to extract the values. I think there might be some logger in chimerax which can do this or some other better way to write results to a file , but i am not able to find it. ############# please let me know your suggestions on improving this code. thanks, amith

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Re: [chimerax-users] Chimera system requirements
by Elaine Meng 10 Feb '22

10 Feb '22

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Armin Delnia <armindelnia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Sir/Madam, > I would like to ask what are the system requirements in order to run Chimera and ChimeraX in terms of the RAM and CPU specifications? Thank you. > Regards, > Armin Delnia Hello Armin, This e-mail address is for commercial licensing requests. For questions about using the program(s) we recommend chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu and/or chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu. <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/contact.html> <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/feedback.html> I don't have a specific answer for you, but I CC'd chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu on this message so you don't need to do anything else this time. I only have the following general information: the download pages say which operating systems are supported for running the programs. The ChimeraX download page also recommends using a computer <4 years old. <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/download.html> <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/download.html> Best, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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