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Working with c-beta truncated models in ISOLDE
by Vorländer,Matthias Kopano 28 May '25

28 May '25

Hi everyone, Is there a way to work with c-beta truncated models in ISOLDE? For truncated residues, Isolde brings up the unparameterized residues dialog, and matches as a possible template the ligand “TRUNC_CB”, which seems reasonable. Since the model also contains complete sidechains, I would not want to rebuild all residues to template, and doing it residue-by-residue is impractical, too. Can the “rebuild to template for all residues of this name” be limited to a selection? Thanks a lot, Matthias

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swapna command extremely slow for large structures
by Vorländer,Matthias Kopano 27 May '25

27 May '25

Dear ChimeraX team, I have noticed that on some structure I am working with, the swapna command is extremely slow, making it almost unusable for structure manipulation. For a single nucleotide substitution, ChimeraX froze for >5 minutes before finishing the operation (that particular structure had ~300 000 atoms). When I however first delete all proteins from the structure, the operation is very fast. What is the rate limiting step in the swapna command? Does it invoke renumbering of all atoms in the PDB file? Without having quantified it, I experienced similar behavior for the build replace command. Would be fantastic if there would be a way to speed this up to increase its usability! Many thanks in advance, Matthias

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Taking control of the string displayed in a pbond associated tooltip
by svle＠tiscali.it 27 May '25

27 May '25

Hi, I have specified some pseudobonds using pbond. It is possible to add a string, conveying other related informations , to that displayed in the tooltip when hovering the mouse on the pseudobond? Also, it is possible to take the complete control of what is displayed in the tooltip? Thanks. Saverio

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How do I get Modeller structure if there was a connection timeout error on ChimeraX?
by Andy Liwang 23 May '25

23 May '25

Dear ChimeraX, I used “Model Loops” on a large protein and even though ChimeraX indicated “Modeller Webservice: 1 of 1 models generated”, it also gave the following error message: modeller refine<help:user/commands/modeller.html#refine> 1:1:all-missing 1/A:1:all-missing numModels 1 fast false adjacentFlexible 1 protocol standard Webservices job id: RO5U9U0YU7YY6TM5 2025-05-23 15:51:56,220 WARNING Retrying (Retry(total=2, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None, status=None)) after connection broken by 'ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x32f0aa350>, 'Connection to webservices.rbvi.ucsf.edu timed out. (connect timeout=None)')': /cxservices/api/v1/chimerax/jobs/RO5U9U0YU7YY6TM5/files Am I able to retrieve the model from webservices.rbvi.ucsf.edu<http://webservices.rbvi.ucsf.edu/>? Sincerely yours, Andy LiWang Professor of Chemistry & Biochemistry University of California Merced, CA 95343

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Problem using pbond
by svle＠tiscali.it 23 May '25

23 May '25

Hi, I would like to use pbond with a pair of atoms. For one of these it is available the model number , the chain ID and the atom serial number. How it is possible to give the atom specification ,having the previous three information, for using it in pbond? Thanks. Saverio

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remotecontrol observations and suggestions
by Roden Deng Luo 23 May '25

23 May '25

Hi, This is to share my observations and practices mainly with people using `remotecontrol xmlrpc`, likely developers. `xmlrpc` has a very high overhead, `remotecontrol rest` with "multipart/form-data" header POST requests should be a better option. First, the REST method can also be used programmatically in scripts or applications fairly easily. I have been sending GET requests using the REST method. Then, I hit "Request-URI Too Long" as I am sending decent sized json data (17KB). Then I tried XML-RPC and realized the frame rate dropped from 58 to 8. The frame rate can be displayed at the status line via `graphics rate true`. Then GPT guided me to try POST with "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" as Content-Type. I got stuck here for a while and found _parse_post <https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/3233aaaf01623ca24bccff7196410401872ce…> returns "fields" in binary and the program could not parse args["command"] <https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/blob/3233aaaf01623ca24bccff7196410401872ce…> as what's inside is b"command". Then I refactored my client to POST with "multipart/form-data" and it worked. More details in my conversations with bots: URL too long: https://chatgpt.com/share/682c856c-174c-8003-bfc9-96fa7e2db0c3 Frame rate cmd: https://chatgpt.com/share/682c8589-2da0-8003-8c14-a59b75927c6b XML-RPC overhead: https://chatgpt.com/share/682c85a7-5f40-8003-8615-095e0a28fccd POST: https://chatgpt.com/share/682c85ca-9938-8003-bb0b-1fb7dd7938ef Best, Roden -- This message and its contents, including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Commercial vs personal use
by Smith, Timothy 22 May '25

22 May '25

Hello, I previously used ChimeraX for my academic work during my PhD and would like to continue using it for personal use. I do work for a biotech company and while I don't use ChimeraX for work related to my job, I do only have a work issued computer where IT needs to install software. My question is would I still need a commercial license even if I only use it for personal use on my work computer? Thanks, Tim

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1.10 Release Candidates Available Now
by Zach Pearson 21 May '25

21 May '25

Hello ChimeraX users, The first release candidate of ChimeraX 1.10 is available for download today. — Zach

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request help about chimeraX
by Pietro Rizza 21 May '25

21 May '25

hi, thank you for your reply...I hope to explain clearly my problem In attached you will see the file saved with CHIMERA X and I' d like to open my data, in particular SCORE, ENERGY OF POSES in the Biovia Studio DIscover Visualizer....... If you see the second attached.....are reported the several energy of poses (indicated by red arrow) probably I save my data in CHIMERAX IN NOT CORRECT WAY? Why do I not open the energy of poses in Biovia Studio Discover Visualizer? thank you again sincerely Pietro -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Il banner è generato automaticamente dal servizio di posta elettronica dell'Università della Calabria <https://www.unical.it/5x1000>

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Re: request your help about ChimeraX
by Elaine Meng 21 May '25

21 May '25

> On May 21, 2025, at 7:19 AM, Pietro Rizza <pietro.rizza(a)unical.it> wrote: > > Hi Dr Meng > Please you could help me, how do you save the data in CHIMERAX? > How can I save the energy of different poses? > Thanks in advance > Sincerely > Pietro > Hi Pietro, It is better to send questions to the chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu address (CC'd here so you don't have to send it again), unless you are including private data. If you send only to me, it may not get answered. I removed your attachment in case it was private, but I see you are using ViewDockX. Of course, the energies and other descriptors of each pose are read from your original input file, so they are already "saved" there, but maybe you are trying to save as a spreadsheet format like CSV? It was not clear from your question. The ViewDockX "Save" button will just save another file that has all of the coordinates as well as the scores (like your original input file). There is no option to save a CSV file from the table, sorry. The only similar possibility is to convert the ViewDockX columns into a model attribute with this recipe <https://rbvi.github.io/chimerax-recipes/vdx_attrs/vdx_attrs.html> ... and then use the "save" command to save an attribute file <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/save.html#attributes> ... but in my opinion it would be MUCH easier just to process these values from your original input file (the one output by the docking program). You just can't do it with ChimeraX, sorry. Regards, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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Questions about alphafold interfaces output discrepancies
by Bruno Hay Mele 20 May '25

20 May '25

Hi! I am dabbling with the alphafold interfaces command, and I cannot make sense of the data. In my user case, the table synthesis produced by the command says: Models Confident pairs #Res1 #Res2 4 23 12 12 opening the best model produces these relevant lines in the log 200 atoms, 188 bonds, 24 residues, 1 model selected alphafold contacts last-opened & /A toAtoms last-opened & /B distance 4.0 maxPae 5.0 Found 14 residue or atom pairs within distance 4 with pae <= 5 in the csv, the same model has these relevant columns: distance, max_pae, num_res1, num_res2, num_interface_res1, 4, 5, 246, 246, 20, num_interface_res2, num_interface_res_pairs, num_confident_pairs, 20, 42, 23, interface_res_num1, interface_res_num2 12 values 12 values I am struggling a bit to reconcile all these numbers. The 24 residues selected by chimera after opening are not anywhere else. I suppose these are #Res1 + #Res2 of the synthesis (and interface_res_num1 + interface_res_num2 in the csv)? Both the log synthesis and the csv report 23 as number of confident pairs, but the log message after opening best model says 14 residues (I assume these are those within the distance/pae constraint?) Why Confident pairs is not #Res1 + #Res2? I am also a little bit puzzled by the csv where I read num_interface_res_pairs = 42 and num_interface_res1, num_interface_res2 20 ( I was expecting either 21,21 for num_interface_res or 40 for num_interface_res_pairs. I attach the prediction I was using for diagnosing the problem. cheers, -- Bruno Hay Mele, PhD 2D-20, Biology Dept., University of Naples Federico II https://github.com/bhym/ | +39 081 67 9118

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Smooth MD script vs morph movie
by Alexander Lee 19 May '25

19 May '25

Dear ChimeraX developers, I have been wondering about the pros/cons between the 2 methods to smoothen a trajectory. If I provide a pdb and an nc trajectory file, I can use the smooth_md python script. If the trajectory originally has 100 frames , there will still be 100 frames after using the script. If I exported my trajectory into separate pdb models and morph between each of them, with the default of 50 frames created between each trajectory frame, there will be 5,001 frames after using the command. While importing many pdb's and morphing them takes longer than importing a trajectory and smoothing it, are there any benefits to using either one over the other? I remember seeing some post-production artifacts in smooth_md python script method like the hydrogens of a lysine being in an odd geometry briefly throughout the smoothed trajectory and am unsure if morph command would do the same. Regards, Alex

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Foldseek
by Lynne Howell 15 May '25

15 May '25

Hi Is there an easy way to export the list of similar PDB structures, the % sequence ID, E-value etc that can be found using FOLDSEEK to an excel file. Thanks in advance L __________________________________________________________________________ P. Lynne Howell Canada Research Chair (2006-2020) Senior Scientist, Program in Molecular Medicine The Hospital for Sick Children Professor, Department of Biochemistry, University of Toronto Office and Mailing address: Room 20-9-715 Peter Gilgan Centre for Research and Learning (PGCRL) 686 Bay St. Toronto ON M5G 0A4 Phone: 416-813-5378 (Internal 305378) Web page: https://lab.research.sickkids.ca/howell/ ________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential, personal and/or health information(information which may be subject to legal restrictions on use, retention and/or disclosure) for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies.

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Issues with the 1.9 release on macOS
by Zach Pearson 15 May '25

15 May '25

Hello everyone, I just came across a bug report on our ticket tracker regarding a missing SciPy symbol in the 1.9 release. The basic problem is that scipy has two macOS arm64 wheels up, and one is targeting a higher MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET than the other. I think pip ignores this environment variable when selecting packages, so without qualifying that we need the lower deployment target version, pip selects the higher one on our build machines. I fixed this issue a few weeks ago for the 1.10 daily builds, before release candidates went out, so neither of those versions are affected. If you have an ARM Mac and your macOS is less than 14, you should use a daily build or release candidate. You can check your version of macOS by clicking on the Apple logo in the top left, then clicking “About This Mac”. Because we are so close to the 1.10 release, we do not plan to make a 1.9.1 release at this time. Our website will be updated to reflect this information shortly, along with a BlueSky announcement. Thank you, — Zach

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Search in Command History
by Roden Deng Luo 15 May '25

15 May '25

Dear ChimeraX team, Not sure if there is one already, would be great to have a search box in the "Command History" window. Best, Roden -- This message and its contents, including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Atoms on the other side of the box
by Alexandra Zahradnikova 15 May '25

15 May '25

Dear all, I am trying to minimize the volume of my Gromacs simulation box and therefore in some frames of the trajectory, the atoms appear on the other side of the box. Is there a way to correct this problem in ChimeraX or do I need to resolve it in Gromacs? Best Sasha

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Re: error with trying to open a saved chimera .cxs session
by arangarajan＠initialtx.com 14 May '25

14 May '25

i am trying to open a saved chimerax session saved with version 1.10.dev202504020144 (2025-04-02) using a newly installation of daily build dated 2022-12-30 and i am getting this error : unable to restore session : need to update bundle To restore session: update atomic bundle to ver 1.60.5 or newer ( have 1.43.4) please let me know how to fix this, thanks amith

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Creating a virtual atom n Chimerax
by svle＠tiscali.it 14 May '25

14 May '25

HI, I want to draw a pseudobond between a real atom and the centroid of six carbon atoms. How it is possible define a virtual or pseudo atom with the coordinates of the centroid as one of the ends of the psudobond? Thanks. Saverio

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Re: cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure
by Yaowang Li 13 May '25

13 May '25

Agreed, but has information on proteins and AAs yaowang From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2025 9:37 AM To: Yaowang Li <liyaowang2911(a)163.com> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure Molstar is showing a tube through the beads of the coarse grain model. Tom On May 13, 2025, at 6:28 PM, Yaowang Li <liyaowang2911(a)163.com <mailto:liyaowang2911@163.com> > wrote: Hi Tom The chimerax indeed can open the file, and I succeeded in opening it yesterday, same as you showed. Although the molstar program displays the atomic model, it is hard to analyze. Yaowang <image001.png> From: Tom Goddard < <mailto:goddard@sonic.net> goddard(a)sonic.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2025 9:17 AM To: Yaowang Li < <mailto:liyaowang2911@163.com> liyaowang2911(a)163.com> Cc: Ben Webb < <mailto:ben@salilab.org> ben(a)salilab.org>; ChimeraX Users Help < <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure Hi Yaowang, You can open the 8zza IHM model in ChimeraX using open 8zza from pdbdev If you get tomorrow's ChimeraX 1.10 release candidate or daily build you could also use open 8zza from pdbihm I just added the database name "pdbihm" because pdbdev was the development name of the IHM repository and is being phased out. As Ben said 8zza is a coarse grain model. Although you will see spheres in the model they do not represent individual atoms. The may represent whole residues or large subunits. Tom IHM 8zza shown in ChimeraX: <image003.jpg> On May 13, 2025, at 6:08 PM, Yaowang Li < <mailto:liyaowang2911@163.com> liyaowang2911(a)163.com> wrote: Hi, Ben and Tom Thank you for your help. “Real structural model” is not the right expression; I mean an atomic model. There should be an atomic model that was generated from the coarse-grained model, and the molstar program on the IHM website can display its atomic model. So it will be perfect that I can open it in Chimerax for viewing this complex structure. In short, I just want to get the atomic model, not the coarse-grained model. Best wishes, Yaowang From: <mailto:chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com(a)cgl.ucsf.edu < <mailto:chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> On Behalf Of Tom Goddard via ChimeraX-users Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:01 AM To: <mailto:liyaowang2911@163.com> liyaowang2911(a)163.com Cc: <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Subject: [chimerax-users] Re: cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure Hi Yaowang, As Ben points out 8zza is an integrative hybrid model (IHM). Unfortunately the PDB gives ChimeraX a file with suffix ".cif" for 8zza that does not use the atomic model mmcif dictionary. ChimeraX would need to look at the contents of the file to decide that it is using the IHM dictionary. Currently ChimeraX identifies file types using the file suffix ".cif". That is why it says "No mmCIF models found" when you open this file. I've made a ChimeraX bug report to see if we can improve this <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/17661> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/17661 ChimeraX is able to read the IHM files. So if you download the 8zza.cif file and open it in ChimeraX with "open ~/Downloads/8zza.cif format ihm" it will show you the coarse grain model. Tom On May 13, 2025, at 8:58 AM, Ben Webb via ChimeraX-users < <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: On 5/13/25 7:33 AM, Yaowang Li via ChimeraX-users wrote: I am trying to analyze the structures that were deposited in the <https://pdb-ihm.org/> https://pdb-ihm.org< <https://pdb-ihm.org/> https://pdb-ihm.org> Such as the entry: 8zza [...] which is a coarse-grained model, instead of a real structural model consisting of atom coordinates. Could anyone help me figure it out? 8zza is a model of the yeast nuclear pore complex. As you have observed, it is a coarse-grained model, not atomic. I'm not sure what you mean by "real structural model" but the resolution of the data in 2018 was such that only a coarse-grained structure was possible. That's what was deposited and that's what ChimeraX will show you. What are you trying to do? Ben -- <mailto:ben@salilab.org> ben(a)salilab.org <https://salilab.org/~ben/> https://salilab.org/~ben/ "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle _______________________________________________ ChimeraX-users mailing list -- <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu To unsubscribe send an email to <mailto:chimerax-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Archives: <https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/> https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Re: cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure
by Tom Goddard 13 May '25

13 May '25

Hi Yaowang, You can open the 8zza IHM model in ChimeraX using open 8zza from pdbdev If you get tomorrow's ChimeraX 1.10 release candidate or daily build you could also use open 8zza from pdbihm I just added the database name "pdbihm" because pdbdev was the development name of the IHM repository and is being phased out. As Ben said 8zza is a coarse grain model. Although you will see spheres in the model they do not represent individual atoms. The may represent whole residues or large subunits. Tom IHM 8zza shown in ChimeraX: > On May 13, 2025, at 6:08 PM, Yaowang Li <liyaowang2911(a)163.com> wrote: > > Hi, Ben and Tom > > Thank you for your help. > > “Real structural model” is not the right expression; I mean an atomic model. There should be an atomic model that was generated from the coarse-grained model, and the molstar program on the IHM website can display its atomic model. So it will be perfect that I can open it in Chimerax for viewing this complex structure. > In short, I just want to get the atomic model, not the coarse-grained model. > > > Best wishes, > > Yaowang > > > > > From: chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <chimerax-users-bounces+liyaowang2911=163.com(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> On Behalf Of Tom Goddard via ChimeraX-users > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:01 AM > To: liyaowang2911(a)163.com > Cc: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Subject: [chimerax-users] Re: cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure > > Hi Yaowang, > > As Ben points out 8zza is an integrative hybrid model (IHM). Unfortunately the PDB gives ChimeraX a file with suffix ".cif" for 8zza that does not use the atomic model mmcif dictionary. ChimeraX would need to look at the contents of the file to decide that it is using the IHM dictionary. Currently ChimeraX identifies file types using the file suffix ".cif". That is why it says "No mmCIF models found" when you open this file. I've made a ChimeraX bug report to see if we can improve this > > https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/17661 > > ChimeraX is able to read the IHM files. So if you download the 8zza.cif file and open it in ChimeraX with "open ~/Downloads/8zza.cif format ihm" it will show you the coarse grain model. > > Tom > > > > >> On May 13, 2025, at 8:58 AM, Ben Webb via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> >> On 5/13/25 7:33 AM, Yaowang Li via ChimeraX-users wrote: >> >>> I am trying to analyze the structures that were deposited in the https://pdb-ihm.org <https://pdb-ihm.org/><https://pdb-ihm.org <https://pdb-ihm.org/>> >>> Such as the entry: 8zza [...] which is a coarse-grained model, >>> instead of a real structural model consisting of atom coordinates. >>> Could anyone help me figure it out? >> >> 8zza is a model of the yeast nuclear pore complex. As you have observed, >> it is a coarse-grained model, not atomic. I'm not sure what you mean by >> "real structural model" but the resolution of the data in 2018 was such >> that only a coarse-grained structure was possible. That's what was >> deposited and that's what ChimeraX will show you. What are you trying to do? >> >> Ben >> -- >> ben(a)salilab.org <mailto:ben@salilab.org> https://salilab.org/~ben/ >> "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." >> - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/ >>

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cif file from pdb-ihm, the integrative structure
by Yaowang Li 13 May '25

13 May '25

Dear all, I am trying to analyze the structures that were deposited in the https://pdb-ihm.org Such as the entry: 8zza The chimeraX (version 1.7 to 1.10) cannot read the CIF file with warning information warning No mmCIF models found. While it succeeded in opening it after adding the option format ihm. But they are the start model, restraints, and results, which is a coarse-grained model, instead of a real structural model consisting of atom coordinates. Could anyone help me figure it out? Best wishes

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Re: Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor
by Tom Goddard 12 May '25

12 May '25

Hi Gökhan, The Samsung web page you referenced says the monitor is $3000, the same price as the Acer 27", and the Samsung also uses eye-tracking so it will probably only work for one person. The Sony and Acer displays both use OpenXR and eye tracking. This is good and bad. The good part is as you move your head to the side you see the side of the rendered objects. The bad is that most 3D applications do not support OpenXR unless they are VR applications. In contrast the Samsung uses side-by-side video input. That allows it to work with any 3D application that supports that common 3D format. Here's a description on Reddit talking about side-by-side input with the Samsung. (Unfortunately the Samsung manual does not say much.) https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1k8wnqa/samsung_odyssey_3d_g90xf… The drawback of the Samsung approach is that the monitor has no way to tell the application (e.g. ChimeraX) that your head has moved to the side (that is what OpenXR does). So when you move your head to the side you just see the same view direction of the 3D object only skewed. It's not a disaster, you can rotate the molecule if you want to see it from the side. The Samsung manual says only Windows is supported since they include some crappy software that runs on your Windows machine. I'm not sure if it is needed to handle side-by-side input. I'd love to see the Samsung display. It uses a 4K panel like the Sony and Acer. Like those displays it must be using a lenticular grating to send some pixels to your left eye and some to your right eye so the actual resolution in 3D is more like HD (2K). Still that is pretty good. (With old technology LCD shutter glasses you would get full 4K resolution since the two eye images use all screen pixels and just alternate in time.) If I had one of these displays I think I could make ChimeraX render full-screen side-by-side. Since you can't drag the ChimeraX graphics into a separate window I would try to add code to create a separate window and render to it as an option. My lab does not have money to spare to buy such a display (NIH funding problems), so don't expect to work on this. Tom > On May 7, 2025, at 11:19 PM, <tolung.bio(a)gmail.com> <tolung.bio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > This Samsung is less than half the price (27” for 2K USD) compared to the SONY in the review. > > Let me know if you can score one of these to test/develop for :) > > Cheers, > > Gökhan > > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2025 8:45 AM > To: tolung.bio(a)gmail.com > Cc: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor > > Hi Gökhan, > > There is no ChimeraX capability to make the graphics pane full screen, so it will not work with a 3D display that wants full-screen side-by-side stereo format. The graphics pane is not a docked panel like the other ChimeraX tools. The ChimeraX main window is a Qt QMainWindow which treats that center area specially and it cannot be detached into a floating window. I'm not sure how hard it would be to allow that. > > We are also working on glasses-free eye-tracked 3D displays such as the Sony Spatial Reality and Acer SpatialLabs displays. They use OpenXR and only work on Windows and only with 1 person viewing, and costly $3000-5000, so they have some limitations. Here's a description of trying the Sony 3D display with ChimeraX > > https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/sony3d-mar2025/sony3d.html > > Tom > > > >> On May 7, 2025, at 12:24 AM, Gokhan via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> >> Hello ChimeraX team and users, >> >> Does ChimeraX support this monitor? >> >> https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-3d-g90xf-27-inch-165hz-u… >> >> I read a very positive review about this monitor and may consider buying one if it works with ChimeraX. >> >> The review says that this monitor needs a full-screen side-by-side output. Just as many of the sub-windows of ChimeraX can be docked and undocked (e.g., log, Models, etc.), is there way to ‘undock’ the main graphics window to make it full screen? Or, is there a way to display the graphics window on a secondary monitor as a full-screen output? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gökhan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor
by tolung.bio＠gmail.com 07 May '25

07 May '25

Hello ChimeraX team and users, Does ChimeraX support this monitor? https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-3d-g90xf-27-inch-165hz-uh d-ls27fg900xexxy/?srsltid=AfmBOopLIkVAywsvNylPGVRL3wUoUJuBvUOPOz0metBjwLM2Nn xgmQVf I read a very positive review about this monitor and may consider buying one if it works with ChimeraX. The review says that this monitor needs a full-screen side-by-side output. Just as many of the sub-windows of ChimeraX can be docked and undocked (e.g., log, Models, etc.), is there way to undock the main graphics window to make it full screen? Or, is there a way to display the graphics window on a secondary monitor as a full-screen output? Thanks, Gökhan

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including HET atoms in kvfinder calculations from ChimeraX
by Elaine Meng 07 May '25

07 May '25

> On May 7, 2025, at 2:01 AM, Mühleip, Alexander <alexander.muhleip(a)helsinki.fi> wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > > I am checking out the new kvfinder tool in ChimeraX. I was wondering if there is some way to prevent it from disregarding heteroatoms in the cavity search (in my eyes, e.g. excluding hemes is not helpful). I tried changing the selection syntax, but I think the pruning is taking place internally in kvfinder. > > Is there some way to interfere with it or make an ignore option (like the isolde implementation in chimerax has)? > > Best wishes, > Alex > > Alexander Mühleip > group leader > HiLIFE-Institute of Biotechnology > University of Helsinki > Finland > +358503282167 Hi Alex, Generally it's better to ask on the chimerax-users list, since as the resident non-programmer I often don't know implementation details. I CC'd the list in case others may also be interested in this topic. After consultation with the programmer who implemented this tool, we could not think of any current workaround. It uses the "main" category of atoms (definition in link below) which is automatically assigned cannot be manually overwritten. <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/atomspec.html#surfcats> However, we can consider this a request for enhancement that might be added in the future. Best wishes, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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Options to align two models and calculate per-residue RMSD
by christian.steinmetzger＠imbim.uu.se 07 May '25

07 May '25

Dear ChimeraX users, I'm working with some different ribosome structures which I first want to align to a reference structure (as rigid bodies) and then calculate RMSD values with respect to the reference. The number of chains are the same between my structures and the reference, and the chain names + residue numbers are congruent as well. However, some of my chains have residues missing or added at the ends, have a small number of insertions (using insertion codes in the pdb file) or point mutations. What I have tried so far is: "matchmaker #2 to #1 pairing ss show true" "save file.defattr #2 attrName r:seq_rmsd modelIds false" (to store the resulting RMSD values for later use) which aligns based on CA for protein chains and C4' for RNA. I haven't given any explicit chain specification (each model has 56 chains). Am I correct to think that the RMSD values I get are based on a whole-structure rigid-body alignment that takes all chains into account simultaneously? Or does it align each chain in #2 to its matching chain in #1 individually? For the proteins I think per-residue CA-RMSD values are suitable for what I need, but for the RNA chains I would like to get per-residue all-atom RMSDs, not just C4'. Can this be achieved with matchmaker? I have also tried to use the align command like this: "align #2 toAtoms #1 each structure matchChainIds true matchNumbering true" which, to my understanding, would do the alignment not just based on CA/C4', but for all atoms. Is that correct? With this, what would be the best way to extract per-residue RMSD values? The "rmsd" command rightfully complains about unequal numbers of atoms between #1 and #2. Is there a way to implicitly select only the atoms that are congruent between #1 and #2? Kind regards, Christian

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