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Issues accessing your websites
by Karp Mike (External) 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Hi, We've been trying to install a chimerax plugin over the last few weeks and noticed we were unable to access the webpage the application tries to open (ChimeraX Toolshed). We checked and found this wasn't accessible from multiple internet connections. I've since noticed we are also unable to access any content on https://cgl.ucsf.edu Are you aware of an issue with your web sites? Regards, Mike. ________________________________ Legal Notice: This electronic mail and its attachments are intended solely for the person(s) to whom they are addressed and contain information which is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure, except for the purpose for which they are intended. Dissemination, distribution, or reproduction by anyone other than the intended recipients is prohibited and may be illegal. If you are not an intended recipient, please immediately inform the sender and return the electronic mail and its attachments and destroy any copies which may be in your possession. UCB screens electronic mails for viruses but does not warrant that this electronic mail is free of any viruses. UCB accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this electronic mail. (Ref: #*UG1107) [Ref-UG1107] ________________________________

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Fwd: 3d glasses free monitors from acer....
by Tom Goddard 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Hi Krish, Ok. I fixed the first error which was caused by the Acer display OpenXR saying it did not have valid position and orientation data for the viewer. ChimeraX did not handle that correctly since VR headsets never have that problem. It might mean that eye tracking of the Acer display did not see your eyes so it did not know your viewing position. Or it could mean the Acer display never provides both position and orientation. If it never provides position and orientation of the viewer then the fixed code still won't render anything and we'll have to do more work to figure out how you are are supposed to get the view direction. The fixed XR code will be in daily builds dated October 17, 2024 or newer. Tom > > >> On Oct 16, 2024, at 2:53 PM, Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> I am willing it work with it till it gets resolved. It might open the display for other applications as well. >> Thanks again for your prompt responses. >> krish >> >> From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 4:14 PM >> To: Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> >> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] 3d glasses free monitors from acer.... >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Hi Krish, >> >> That is some progress. I see why ChimeraX gives that error. It is looking for if the OpenXR connected device does both position and orientation tracking (for VR headsets) and your display says it doesn't do at least one of those and then the ChimeraX code breaks. I may be able to fix that and see if you get further. I say "may" because the ChimeraX code is designed for VR where the headset has a position and orientation in space that is reported. If the Acer display doesn't give a position and orientation for the person's head using its eye tracking then the ChimeraX code would need to do something different to decide the view point. If I had a display I could explore it, but without one it will be hard to figure out. If you want to replace some ChimeraX Python code I can give you some that will help figure out the issues, but it may take a lot of back and forth of you trying code to get anywhere. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2024, at 1:40 PM, Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> wrote: >> >> SpatialLabs User Guide (acer.com) <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/e6a7c1ed/uvnt1Jd_IECk7VUP7-Ti6Q?u=https://spat…> >> >> <image001.png> >> >> Also, >> Tried XR on. The display froze but did go into the 3D mode. Chimerax is recognizing the driver and the monitor. I got an error while reporting this bug. So pasting it here. >> >> >> An error occurred in drawing the scene. Redrawing graphics is now stopped to avoid a continuous stream of error messages. To restart graphics use the command "graphics restart" after changing the settings that caused the error. >> >> 'XR' object has no attribute '_eye_view_states' >> >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\core\updateloop.py", line 84, in draw_new_frame >> view.draw(check_for_changes = False) >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\graphics\view.py", line 188, in draw >> self._draw_scene(camera, drawings) >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\graphics\view.py", line 231, in _draw_scene >> camera.set_render_target(vnum, r) >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\vive\xr.py", line 941, in set_render_target >> self._start_rendering() >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\vive\xr.py", line 796, in _start_rendering >> if not xr.start_frame(): >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\vive\openxr.py", line 372, in start_frame >> self._end_xr_frame() >> File "C:\Program Files\ChimeraX 1.8rc202406072045\bin\Lib\site-packages\chimerax\vive\openxr.py", line 446, in _end_xr_frame >> eye_view = self._eye_view_states[eye_index] >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> AttributeError: 'XR' object has no attribute '_eye_view_states' >> >> From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 12:10 PM >> To: Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> >> Cc: Greg Couch <gregc(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:gregc@cgl.ucsf.edu>>; ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> >> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] 3d glasses free monitors from acer.... >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Hi Krish, >> >> I would hope the Acer SpatialLabs 3D display could render with the standard sequential stereo used with old LCD shutter glasses or polarized glasses systems. ChimeraX can output that using command "camera stereo". But I didn't seen any indication in searching online that they support that. Nor did I see any mention of them supporting the standard side-by-side stereo format which ChimeraX can also output (camera sbs). I would think the display would handle these format because 3D games use those. How could they not make it work with 3D games? What I did see online is that it works with OpenXR which is what virtual reality headsets use. That makes sense because the display offers eye tracking and the sequential or side-by-side stereo methods would not be able to use the eye tracking to change the viewing angle as you moved your head, while software that uses OpenXR will allow that. ChimeraX can uses OpenXR, command "xr on". I did not see online what software you use with the display to work with OpenXR. It would need some SpatialLabs OpenXR display control software running on your computer. Here is a bit of discussion about trying to use this display with another 3D app called Slicer >> >> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/cad1c1c9/DC6RKYZmHE2WohxUaEbXfw?u=https://disc… >> >> where the poster did get Slicer's OpenXR to show 3D with the display. >> >> Let me know what you figure out. If you find some technical reference for the display online that explains the types of 3D input it accepts or how to set it up to work with applications that use OpenXR, I'd be interested in seeing that documentation. If it works well my lab might get a display. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> I got a new 3d glasses free monitor. >> Acer 27" SpatialLabs View Pro Stereoscopic 3D Monitor - Black - FF.R2CAA.002 - Computer Monitors - CDW.com <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/f5cca637/LqUzzf13mUCbZBJiJkeIJQ?u=https://www.…> >> I used the spatiallabs (GO app) software to see stereoscopic 3d images from Chimerax, coot(mapfitting) amd MOE. Seemd to work fine. >> The Go app converts any 2d to 3d stereo when the program displaying is set to fullscreen. >> The Spatiallabs software from acer has plugins for unity , blender and a few other software suites. >> The Go app is compatible with *.obj and Gitf 3d formats. I tried those from chimerax and the result is spectacular. >> Is there any possibility of getting a chimerax plugin? >> Regards >> Krish >> >> From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> >> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:22 PM >> To: Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> >> Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> >> Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] 3d glasses free monitors from acer.... >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Hi Krishnan, >> >> We do not have any of the new 3D laptops to try ChimeraX. Let us know if it works. You will probably use the ChimeraX command "camera stereo" to put it into 3D model on one of these 3D laptops. >> >> Samsung also showed a 3D monitor at January's Consumer Electronics Show with rumors that it may come out this summer. Also don't know if ChimeraX will work on that display. >> >> While I think ChimeraX stereo is likely to work on these displays a problem with past stereo that used shutter glasses was that only workstation graphics cards could do stereo in a window, meaning that part of the display is showing 3D (e.g. the ChimeraX graphics pane) while the rest is showing 2D. This required special graphics driver support only offered in the workstation cards (like Nvidia Quadro) and not in the consumer cards. Full screen stereo where everything is rendered in 3D was available on consumer cards mostly for video games where everything is in 3D including user interface elements. >> >> Let us know if you get something working. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 12, 2024, at 8:56 AM, Krishnan Raman via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> >> https://link.edgepilot.com/s/22d26e4a/CHuCkVzwKkGj1oPV_qX5bQ?u=https://www.… >> >> maybe we can see chimerax😊 in 3d in these… they do have a plugin for unity.. Iam trying get one of these to try things out. >> >> Krishnan Raman >> Executive Director, Structural Biology >> BioCryst Pharmaceuticals >> >> >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This email, including any attachments, may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. 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Question about creation of splines for alpha helix models
by Shriya Sivakumar 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Shriya and I am an undergraduate research assistant at the Microsystems and Mechanobiology Lab at Carnegie Mellon University. I was wondering if you could help me with regard to how ChimeraX creates splines when modeling alpha helices. In particular, which atoms from the protein backbone are used as the points through which the spline is calculated? Thank you! Sincerely, Shriya Sivakumar

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Re: 3d glasses free monitors from acer....
by Tom Goddard 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Hi Krish, I would hope the Acer SpatialLabs 3D display could render with the standard sequential stereo used with old LCD shutter glasses or polarized glasses systems. ChimeraX can output that using command "camera stereo". But I didn't seen any indication in searching online that they support that. Nor did I see any mention of them supporting the standard side-by-side stereo format which ChimeraX can also output (camera sbs). I would think the display would handle these format because 3D games use those. How could they not make it work with 3D games? What I did see online is that it works with OpenXR which is what virtual reality headsets use. That makes sense because the display offers eye tracking and the sequential or side-by-side stereo methods would not be able to use the eye tracking to change the viewing angle as you moved your head, while software that uses OpenXR will allow that. ChimeraX can uses OpenXR, command "xr on". I did not see online what software you use with the display to work with OpenXR. It would need some SpatialLabs OpenXR display control software running on your computer. Here is a bit of discussion about trying to use this display with another 3D app called Slicer https://discourse.slicer.org/t/spatiallabs-stereoscopic-display/34800 where the poster did get Slicer's OpenXR to show 3D with the display. Let me know what you figure out. If you find some technical reference for the display online that explains the types of 3D input it accepts or how to set it up to work with applications that use OpenXR, I'd be interested in seeing that documentation. If it works well my lab might get a display. Tom > On Oct 16, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > I got a new 3d glasses free monitor. > Acer 27" SpatialLabs View Pro Stereoscopic 3D Monitor - Black - FF.R2CAA.002 - Computer Monitors - CDW.com <https://www.cdw.com/product/acer-27-spatiallabs-view-pro-stereoscopic-3d-mo…> > I used the spatiallabs (GO app) software to see stereoscopic 3d images from Chimerax, coot(mapfitting) amd MOE. Seemd to work fine. > The Go app converts any 2d to 3d stereo when the program displaying is set to fullscreen. > The Spatiallabs software from acer has plugins for unity , blender and a few other software suites. > The Go app is compatible with *.obj and Gitf 3d formats. I tried those from chimerax and the result is spectacular. > Is there any possibility of getting a chimerax plugin? > Regards > Krish > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:22 PM > To: Krishnan Raman <RKrishnan(a)BIOCRYST.com <mailto:RKrishnan@BIOCRYST.com>> > Cc: ChimeraX Users Help <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] 3d glasses free monitors from acer.... > > [EXTERNAL] > > Hi Krishnan, > > We do not have any of the new 3D laptops to try ChimeraX. Let us know if it works. You will probably use the ChimeraX command "camera stereo" to put it into 3D model on one of these 3D laptops. > > Samsung also showed a 3D monitor at January's Consumer Electronics Show with rumors that it may come out this summer. Also don't know if ChimeraX will work on that display. > > While I think ChimeraX stereo is likely to work on these displays a problem with past stereo that used shutter glasses was that only workstation graphics cards could do stereo in a window, meaning that part of the display is showing 3D (e.g. the ChimeraX graphics pane) while the rest is showing 2D. This required special graphics driver support only offered in the workstation cards (like Nvidia Quadro) and not in the consumer cards. Full screen stereo where everything is rendered in 3D was available on consumer cards mostly for video games where everything is in 3D including user interface elements. > > Let us know if you get something working. > > Tom > > > > On Jul 12, 2024, at 8:56 AM, Krishnan Raman via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: > > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/22d26e4a/CHuCkVzwKkGj1oPV_qX5bQ?u=https://www.… > > maybe we can see chimerax😊 in 3d in these… they do have a plugin for unity.. Iam trying get one of these to try things out. > > Krishnan Raman > Executive Director, Structural Biology > BioCryst Pharmaceuticals > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This email, including any attachments, may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please reply to the sender so that BioCryst Pharmaceuticals, Inc. can take corrective measures and then permanently delete this email and any attachment, including any printed copies. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> > To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> > Archives: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/bb15c3bf/yEg7mgqw30m5lBrfcz6VNQ?u=https://mail… > > > > Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This email, including any attachments, may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please reply to the sender so that BioCryst Pharmaceuticals, Inc. can take corrective measures and then permanently delete this email and any attachment, including any printed copies. Thank you. >

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Chimerax Download
by Michael Gerber 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

To whom this may concern, Would it be possible to get the Chimerax zip download file for Windows? I have a school project I need to do it for and my presentation is coming up. Please and thank you! Best Michael

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Odp.: problems with accessing server
by Leszek Wawiórka 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

I have just found information (https://x.com/ucsfchimerax) that the server is down for several days so the problem seems to be resolved 😉. Best regards Leszek ________________________________ Od: Leszek Wawiórka Wysłane: środa, 16 października 2024 08:20:32 Do: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu Temat: problems with accessing server Hallo there, I'm contacting You because I encounter permanent problem with my connection with your server. I would like to re-install both chimera and chimeraX packages but I can't get to your home webpage. There is error just saying ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT. I have checked the connection with ping www.cgl.ucsf.edu<http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu> saying that there is no delay. It seems that I can't connect with UCSF server through port 443. The port works for other servers. I have checked it for several different internet connections. Please advise me why its like that? and what is more important, is there any way to fix it somehow. I'd really appreciate your help. I look forward to hearing from you. All the best Leszek Wawiórka Department of Molecular Biologu University of Maria Curie-Sklodowska in Lublin, Poland dr Leszek Wawiórka<https://www.umcs.pl/pl/addres-book-employee,2923,pl.html> Uniwersytet Marii Curie-Skłodowskiej w Lublinie www.umcs.pl UMCS dba o środowisko. Jeśli nie musisz, nie drukuj tego dokumentu. Mejl może zawierać informację poufne, objęte prawem własności intelektualnej lub tajemnicą Uniwersytetu Marii Curie-Skłodowskiej w Lublinie. Jeśli nie jesteś jego adresatem, powiadom o tym nadawcę i usuń wiadomość. Wykorzystanie treści mejla lub załączników jest zakazane. Dziękujemy!

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Question regarding licensing, when publishing data.
by Russ, Peter 14 Oct '24

14 Oct '24

Hi, I used your software for parts in an article where I also cited your requested quotes. The publisher wanted to confirm our licensing. In my understanding licensing is not a problem, as I am with the university for Stuttgart and don't earn money with this article. It would be nice if you could confirm this. Sincerely Peter Russ

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Interface Residue Plot
by Reza Khayat 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

Hi, I'm hoping this question wasn't asked before. Is there a way to draw a dotted line between interacting residues? This would be similar to the Chain Interface graph that shows interaction between chains. Thanks. Best wishes, Reza Reza Khayat, PhD City College of New York Associate Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Co-Director NIH G-RISE program

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saving a multi-model pdb with the subset of frames
by Enrico Martinez 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Dear Chimera-X users! I am dealing with the visualization of a trajectory provided as the multi-model pdb contanained 3000 frames in multi-model format. How can I extract every 5th frame from a multi-model PDB file and save the reduced set of frames into a new PDB file, such that the new file contains five times fewer frames ? I've tried to do it like I did with the netcdf files but it does not work open ./my.pdb structureModel #1 step 5 Many thanks in advance Enriico

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Support for _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise to display PAE matrices stored in ModelArchive
by Gerardo Tauriello 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX developers, Following up on discussions in https://github.com/chaidiscovery/chai-lab/issues/52 and the large amounts of models which have been deposited in ModelArchive (MA; https://modelarchive.org/) in the meantime, I would propose to support loading PAE (or other local-pairwise scores) values from ModelCIF files as used by MA. Here I link some examples which should capture most use cases: 1. ma-bak-cepc-0944<https://www.modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-bak-cepc-0944> includes 2 local-pairwise scores (PAE and "contact probability") and only stores scores for inter-chain residue-pairs. 2. ma-dm-hisrep-003<https://www.modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-hisrep-003> includes a full PAE matrix. 3. In all cases in MA, entries contain a single accompanying zip file which also contains the local pairwise scores which are extracted into a separate file to keep the main ModelCIF file at a manageable size. The linked modelcif_examples_for_chimerax.zip<https://sibcloud-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/gerardo_tauriello_sib_swi…> package includes pae_associated_file where the pairwise scores are directly in a separate file instead of being in a zip file and pae_in_main_file which includes the pairwise scores directly in the main ModelCIF file. Already now ChimeraX is able to parse the ma_qa_metric_local category in ModelCIF to do per-residue coloring for pLDDT etc which is awesome. To make sense of ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise one needs the following (I try to be detailed to simplify the implementation): 1. Parse ma_qa_metric and keep the IDs (_ma_qa_metric.id) for rows with ma_qa_metric.mode == "local-pairwise". If we want to restrict this to PAE matrices, one would additionally check that _ma_qa_metric.type == "PAE". 2. Look for the _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise category. There are 3 options on where to find it: * Directly in the main ModelCIF file (as in pae_in_main_file/003-Spombe_H3-H4_tetramer_DPB3.cif). * In a separate file via _ma_entry_associated_files (as in pae_associated_file/003-Spombe_H3-H4_tetramer_DPB3.cif). You can find the file via _ma_entry_associated_files.file_url for the _ma_entry_associated_files row with file_content == "local pairwise QA scores". * In a separate file via _ma_associated_archive_file_details (as in all MA entries such as ma-bak-cepc-0944 and ma-dm-hisrep-003). Procedure to get it: * Find row in _ma_associated_archive_file_details with file_content == "local pairwise QA scores" and keep archive_file_id and file_path. * Find zip file in _ma_entry_associated_files with id == archive_file_id and download via file_url. * Fetch file named file_path from that zip file. 3. Within the _ma_qa_metric_local_pairwise extract scores for all given residue pairs for metric_id matching the desired IDs from step 1. Each residue is identified with model_id, label_asym_id, label_seq_id, and (redundantly) label_comp_id. There are no guarantees on the order of the data or completeness of the data but each referenced residue is guaranteed to exist in the atom_site category. Here is the current list of model sets in MA which include PAE matrices: ma-bak-cepc<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-bak-cepc>, ma-coffe-slac<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-coffe-slac>, ma-tbvar3d<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-tbvar3d>, ma-ornl-sphdiv<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-ornl-sphdiv>, ma-t3vr3<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-t3vr3>, ma-low-csi<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-low-csi>, ma-ombbaf2<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-ombbaf2>, ma-rap-bacsu<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-rap-bacsu>, ma-nmpfamsdb<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-nmpfamsdb>, ma-jd-viral<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-jd-viral>, ma-dm-prc<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-prc>, ma-dm-hisrep<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-dm-hisrep>, ma-osf-ppp2r2a<https://modelarchive.org/doi/10.5452/ma-osf-ppp2r2a>. All together MA has over 200'000 models with PAE matrices which all supplement the AFDB in some way (e.g. protein complexes, viral proteins and other proteins not covered in UniProt). It would be great to include support for ModelArchive's ModelCIF files in ChimeraX and I am happy to provide further information and help as needed. Regards, Gerardo

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Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient
by Tom Goddard 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

You want sym #3 H,8,120,10,-5 as indicated in the documentation https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/sym.html Tom > On Oct 9, 2024, at 2:50 PM, Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> wrote: > > Also when tryng to give the symetry explicitly I get an error. Perhaps I am using the wrong syntax (??) > > sym #3 sym-type H,8,120,10,-5 > Expected a keyword > > Thanks > > > H. > > > ___________________________________ > Hernando Sosa, PhD. > Dept. of Biochemistry > Albert Einstein College of Medicine > 1300 Morris Park Av. > Bronx NY 10461 > phone (718) 430-3456 > emai: hernando.sosa@einsteinmed. <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.org>edu > ___________________________________ > > > > From: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 5:41 PM > To: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > I need to explicitly give the symmetry (helical) because the command > > > measure symmetry #1 set true (#1 is my map) > > reports: > > No symmetry found for my_map.mrc > > > H. > > > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:32 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu List <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > Hi Hernando, > > Here is how to apply symmetry to one copy of an atomic model in a symmetric cryoEM map in ChimeraX. First use the "measure symmetry" command to determine the map symmetry, then use the "sym" command to make the symmetric copies of the atomic model. Here is an example > > open 8ofx > open 16862 from emdb > measure symmetry #2 set true > sym #1 symmetry #2 > > Tom > > > On Oct 9, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Thanks Elaine, > > I will try to do this with ChimeraX. What I am trying to to do is to generate symetry related copies of a model fitted into a density map using the sym command. I noticed that the only way to define the center of symetry to be centered on the density volume was using the option center #n (where n is the id of the voume density) but only after doing center and orient by pressing the buttons in the volume viewer. > > Although chimeraX is much more prowerful I still find hard to find the the equivalent in ChimeraX of some operations that I use often in Chimera. 😉 > > Thanks again, > > Best > > H. > > _ > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:04 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.edu>> > Cc: chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > > In Chimera, there may not be commands that do exactly the same thing as some button. You might look at "focus <model-number>" and "reset" (maybe only if one model is open, or they haven't been moved relative to one another?) but in my tests, they did not do exactly the same thing as those buttons. > > That's one reason ChimeraX is way better than Chimera! You can use the GUI and it shows the command that it used in the Log. > > Best, > Elaine > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. > UCSF Chimera(X) team > Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > > > > On Oct 8, 2024, at 1:38 PM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: > > > > Dear Chimera, > > > > What would be the equivalent commands to the Center and Orient buttons at the bottom of the Volume Viewer menu tab? > > > > Thanks > > > > H. > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list -- chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> > To unsubscribe send an email to chimera-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> > Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Oct 14-20 Chimera(X) website downtime
by Elaine Meng 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

Planned downtime for server maintenance: The Chimera and ChimeraX websites, Toolshed, web services (Blast Protein, Modeller, ...) and cgl.ucsf.edu e-mail will be unavailable starting Monday, October 14, 10 AM PDT and continuing for several days, potentially through the following weekend (October 14-20). Apologies for the inconvenience, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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Configuring ChimeraX AlphaFold “Fetch” and “Search” features
by Jim Thorpe 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

Hi ChimeraX Team In our commercial lab we are unable to access public domain AlphaFold databases, and instead have our own copy on-premises. Is there a mechanism to reconfigure the ChimeraX AlphaFold “Fetch” and “Search” features to query our in-house copy? ChimeraX error reported is: Fetching url https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/files/AF-Q5STB3-F1-model_v4.cif failed: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden Many Thanks for advising me Best Regards Jim [cid:image001.png@01DB1A36.151649E0] Jim Thorpe Scientific Investigator Protein, Cellular & Structural Sciences Target Discovery GSK Medicines Research Centre, Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, SG1 2NY, UK james.h.thorpe(a)gsk.com [cid:image002.png@01DB1A36.151649E0]<https://www.gsk.com/> [cid:image003.png@01DB1A36.151649E0]<https://www.facebook.com/GSK> [cid:image004.png@01DB1A36.151649E0]<https://twitter.com/GSK> [cid:image005.png@01DB1A36.151649E0]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/glaxosmithkline> GSK monitors email communications sent to and from GSK in order to protect GSK, our employees, customers, suppliers and business partners, from cyber threats and loss of GSK Information. GSK monitoring is conducted with appropriate confidentiality controls and in accordance with local laws and after appropriate consultation.

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Changing dihedral angle
by Prathvi Singh 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

Hi Elaine, Is it possible to change the dihedral angle between any given four sets of atoms, say CA,CB,CG, HG2 of a Lysine residue using command line in either chimera/chmeraX? Thanks in advance, Prathvi Singh, Research Fellow, Department of Biological Sciences & Bioengineering, Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur-208016

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Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient
by Tom Goddard 09 Oct '24

09 Oct '24

The documentation explains how to measure symmetry for a helical map https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/measure.html#symmetry You have to use the helix option to give it some clue about the rise and twist angle per asymmetric unit step. Tom > On Oct 9, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu> wrote: > > I need to explicitly give the symmetry (helical) because the command > > > measure symmetry #1 set true (#1 is my map) > > reports: > > No symmetry found for my_map.mrc > > > H. > > > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2024 12:32 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.edu>> > Cc: chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> List <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > Hi Hernando, > > Here is how to apply symmetry to one copy of an atomic model in a symmetric cryoEM map in ChimeraX. First use the "measure symmetry" command to determine the map symmetry, then use the "sym" command to make the symmetric copies of the atomic model. Here is an example > > open 8ofx > open 16862 from emdb > measure symmetry #2 set true > sym #1 symmetry #2 > > Tom > > > On Oct 9, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Thanks Elaine, > > I will try to do this with ChimeraX. What I am trying to to do is to generate symetry related copies of a model fitted into a density map using the sym command. I noticed that the only way to define the center of symetry to be centered on the density volume was using the option center #n (where n is the id of the voume density) but only after doing center and orient by pressing the buttons in the volume viewer. > > Although chimeraX is much more prowerful I still find hard to find the the equivalent in ChimeraX of some operations that I use often in Chimera. 😉 > > Thanks again, > > Best > > H. > > _ > From: Elaine Meng <meng(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:meng@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:04 PM > To: Hernando J Sosa <hernando.sosa(a)einsteinmed.edu <mailto:hernando.sosa@einsteinmed.edu>> > Cc: chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > Subject: Re: [Chimera-users] Center and Orient > > CAUTION: This email comes from an external source; the attachments and/or links may compromise our secure environment. Do not open or click on suspicious emails. Please click on the “Phish Alert” button on the top right of the Outlook dashboard to report any suspicious emails. > > In Chimera, there may not be commands that do exactly the same thing as some button. You might look at "focus <model-number>" and "reset" (maybe only if one model is open, or they haven't been moved relative to one another?) but in my tests, they did not do exactly the same thing as those buttons. > > That's one reason ChimeraX is way better than Chimera! You can use the GUI and it shows the command that it used in the Log. > > Best, > Elaine > ----- > Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. > UCSF Chimera(X) team > Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry > University of California, San Francisco > > > > On Oct 8, 2024, at 1:38 PM, Hernando J Sosa via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: > > > > Dear Chimera, > > > > What would be the equivalent commands to the Center and Orient buttons at the bottom of the Volume Viewer menu tab? > > > > Thanks > > > > H. > > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list -- chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> > To unsubscribe send an email to chimera-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimera-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> > Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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How to remove a biological assembly from an atomic model
by Guillaume Gaullier 09 Oct '24

09 Oct '24

Hello, I am using the asymmetric unit of a PDB entry to define my own biological assembly based on a symmetric cryoEM map. Using the sym command, I can store the new biological assembly in the cif file. However, it seems I can't remove the biological assembly that came with the PDB entry's annotation, but that is now completely irrelevant because I moved the coordinates into my map (when I apply it, I get new chains completely outside the map). Is there a way to do this without needing to edit the cif file with a text editor? Thank you, Guillaume När du har kontakt med oss på Uppsala universitet med e-post så innebär det att vi behandlar dina personuppgifter. För att läsa mer om hur vi gör det kan du läsa här: http://www.uu.se/om-uu/dataskydd-personuppgifter/ E-mailing Uppsala University means that we will process your personal data. For more information on how this is performed, please read here: http://www.uu.se/en/about-uu/data-protection-policy

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Images in background
by Enrico Martinez 08 Oct '24

08 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX Development Team, I would like to extend my appreciation for your continuous work on ChimeraX and the powerful capabilities it offers for molecular visualization. I previously inquired about the possibility of using static images as backgrounds, similar to what is available in UCSF Chimera. Together, we discovered a workaround by loading an image as a model, adjusting its orientation, and setting it as a static background. However, there is still a significant limitation: when rotating a molecular model (defined in a separate model), the entire scene—including the background—rotates. This compromises the visual experience, as it disrupts the intended static nature of the background image. I would like to formally request the introduction of a more robust solution that allows for the following: - The ability to set static images as true background elements that remain fixed when manipulating other models (e.g., rotating or zooming in on molecular structures). - Support for short background animations, allowing users to load video or animated files that can play while the molecular models are rotated and manipulated independently. These features would greatly enhance the flexibility and presentation capabilities of ChimeraX, making it easier to create high-quality visualizations and presentations. I believe many users would benefit from these enhancements. Thank you for considering this request, and I look forward to any updates on the possibility of implementing these features. Yours sincerely Enrico

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Buried SAS Area selection
by Fernando Villa 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

Dear Chimera users I have been trying to select the atoms involved in the interface of a receptor/ligand complex in ChimeraX without success. In UCSF Chimera e.g. open 4RSC del solvent sel #0:.b del sel select ligand zr>10 del sel focus measure buriedArea protein ligand sel @/buriedSASArea “Only atoms at the interface are selected” = OK **The interface buried area calculation was performed and the atoms involved in the buried area were selected. However, I wish to do the same in ChimeraX, for surface area calculations: e.g. open 4RSC del solvent del /B select ::name="A3V" view sel measure buriedarea protein withAtoms2 ligand sel t list t cutoff 0 “All atoms in the interface are selected per residue” = KO The results of the calculations are the following: UCSF Chimera = 719.643 ChimeraX = 719.65 = OK I have difficulties to select only the atoms in the interface, not all atoms of the residues, I have tried several ways to do this but it has been complicated, I even tried to insert the command “sel @/buriedSASArea” of UCSF Chimera in ChimeraX without success. Sincerely. Fer <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Libre de virus.www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Color Zone
by Mark Rosenberg 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

Using an atomic model and map, when I colour a different zone, I "lose" the colour from the previous zone I coloured. Is this a bug? This is in Windows 11. Thanks in advance.

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3MF Support
by Conrad Toms 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

Hello, Is .3MF export support planned for ChimeraX? It is overall a superior format to STL and has been seeing adoption in most programs for mesh work and 3D printing.

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Software copyright issue
by 姜恩誉 06 Oct '24

06 Oct '24

Hello, I would like to ask whether chimera software academic free includes the publication of papers? Looking forward to your reply, thank you 姜恩誉 2023111025(a)stu.njau.edu.cn

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Web server down?
by Roden Deng Luo 05 Oct '24

05 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX Team, I am making a tutorial and notice that I cannot access the download page again. This is probably the fourth time I experienced this in recent months. Best, Roden -- This message and its contents, including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Functionality request: Measure molecular weight
by Jan-Hannes Schaefer 04 Oct '24

04 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX community, Thanks for your work and effort in making ChimeraX available to all of us. I would love to see a function in future versions of ChimeraX to measure the molecular weight of the model and link it to the uniprot entry? Let me know if this is something you would like to add. Yours, Jan ___________________________ Jan-Hannes Schäfer, PhD Lander Group • Scripps Research 10630 John J Hopkins Dr. San Diego, CA 92121 Mailing-code: TRY-21 jschaefer(a)scripps.edu (858) 784-8728

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Selecting a sidechain but not the cartoon backbone
by James Lingford 03 Oct '24

03 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX team, I want to select only the sidechains of a protein in order to visually outline them for a figure. This isn't an issue if cartoons are turned off, because I can select the only sidechains I want and use the command: `sel sel & sidechain` and I outline them in a nice way with... `graphics sel col black width 2` However, if cartoons are turned on then this won't select just the sidechain, but select a portion of the cartoon backbone too. I'm not sure how to specify this. Ideally I want a transparent cartoon with opaque sidechains, and then have only the sidechains selected. Please see the images attached for examples of what I'm referring to. Many thanks, James [image: sidechain2.png] [image: sidechain1.png] -- *James Lingford* | Research Officer, Greening Lab Department of Microbiology, Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute Monash University Google Scholar <https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=4KSRHTUAAAAJ&hl=en> | Website <https://www.jameslingford.com/>

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Coloring chains by attribute
by Juan Ortiz Mateu 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Dear developers, I’m trying to color the ribosome (4ug0) with a color code for abundance of each chain (ribosomal proteins) found in my proteomics data. I have created an attribute successfully, as it says in the log: Summary of feedback from opening fc.defattr note Assigned attribute 'FC' to 32 chains using match mode: any However, in the Render/Select by attribute tool there is no option to color chains, only atoms/residues/structures. How can I apply these numeric values to color the different chains/subunits? Thank you, ******************************** Juan Ortiz Mateu Researcher PhD Student Membrane Proteins Lab Biotecmed Institute University of Valencia Dr. Moliner, 50 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) Spain research.uv.es/membrana/ **********************************

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system log of ChimeraX
by Enrico Martinez 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Dear ChimeraX users! I wonder if there is some system log file containing the full history of previously executed commands and scripts in Chimera-X on the linux machine ? This could be useful if I did not save something and would like to resolve the full story. All the best, Enrico

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Pre-fitted structures
by Eric Pettersen 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Hi Randy, I'm attaching a wheel file where the Fit in Map tool (and phenix emplaceLocal command) supports pre-fitted structures. Use the "toolshed install <drag-and-drop wheel file>" command to install it. I guess I could now use an example system where emplace_local returns more than one solution, so I can work on a browsing interface for results. --Eric

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Chimera X opening issues on windows machineGood Afternoon,
by Haroon, Shohaib (NIH/NICHD) [C] 01 Oct '24

01 Oct '24

Good Afternoon, Hope this email finds you well. I am reaching out to your regarding an issue after successfully installed the latest version of Chimera X on one of my user he is using windows desktop and not able to open it. Even though I tried it multiple versions same issue persist. I installed the same version on my laptop without any issues and working fine. Is there anything need to do differently so it can open on desktop. Much appreciated for your help Thank you Shohaib Haroon Desktop Support Technician Information Resources Management Branch Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development 6710B Rockledge Drive, Bethesda, MD 20817 cell:301-275-0276 Email: shohaib.haroon(a)nih.gov<mailto:shohaib.haroon@nih.gov>

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Increasing ChimeraX speed?
by Altobelli, Chad 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

Hi, I love using ChimeraX to make morphs, but my protein is quite a large hexamer (500kda) and the progression through the coordset can be quite slow during playback. When I look at my Windows taskmanager, I can see that neither my CPU (12th Gen Intel i7-12700H), RAM, or GPU (NVIDIA RTX 3050 Laptop) are maxed out. Is there a way to speed up Chimera morphs? Thanks, Chad

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Molecular Dynamics in ChimeraX
by Enrico Martinez 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

Dear ChimeraX users! I noticed that in ChimeraX there is no built-in molecular dynamics simulation engine as opposed to the older UCSF Chimera. Is it possible to use some visualization trick to deform slightly static coordinates of atomic selection introducing (visually) the impression that they move during movie recording ? Many thanks in advance Enrico

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Software copyright consulting
by 姜恩誉 27 Sep '24

27 Sep '24

Hello, is the application of your Chimera X software for paper publication a non-commercial use？ Looking forward to your reply. Thank you 姜恩誉 2023111025(a)stu.njau.edu.cn

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info distmat command
by NUR AIDA SAKINAH 27 Sep '24

27 Sep '24

Hi ChimeraX teams, Can you guide me to use the *atoms-spec* for info distmat command. I want the output in chimerax log to list out distances between drug compound and the amino acids side chains and only display the distances below than 4 A. For now, what i have got, the output include distances between atoms in the drug itself and atoms in the amino acids itself. The command that i have try are: 1. info distmat (protein & sideonly) | :dex ::num_distance< 4 2. info distmat (protein & sideonly) | :dex 3. info distmat (protein & sideonly) & (:dex) distance < 4 Hope you could help me with this. Regards with thanks, Aida.

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Atoms command spec
by NUR AIDA SAKINAH 27 Sep '24

27 Sep '24

Hi ChimeraX teams, Can you guide me to use the *atoms-spec* for info distmat command. I want the output in the chimerax log to list out distances between *the drug compound and the amino acids side chains and only display the distances below than 4A*. For now, what I have got, the output includes distances between atoms in the drug itself and atoms in the amino acids itself and I don't want that. Only display distances between atoms of the drug and the amino acids side chains. The protein and drug details: PDBID= *4YVP* with drug compound *DEX* The drug binding site distance is below than *4A*. The command that i have try are: 1. info distmat (protein & sideonly) | :dex ::num_distance< 4 2. info distmat (protein & sideonly) | :dex 3. info distmat (protein & sideonly) & (:dex) distance < 4 Hope you could help me with this. Regards with thanks, Aida.

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How to increase the font size of pseudobond labels
by Suhas Srinivasan 26 Sep '24

26 Sep '24

Dear ChimeraX Community, I was trying to increase the default font size of the very small labels displayed on the pseudobonds that are generated from the “distance” command. Selecting the pseudobond label and then using the command “label size 512” had no effect. Your help would be appreciated and thank you for your time. UCSF ChimeraX 1.8 macOS 14.7

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ChimeraX download problem
by Sophie Scobell 26 Sep '24

26 Sep '24

Hi, I've been trying to download ChimeraX on my personal computer for the past two weeks and keep getting this error message: "Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator at root@localhost to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log." I'm using a Mac and I've tried the MacOS download on both Safari and Chrome with the same issue. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, Thank you! Sophie

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Re: Inquiry: Selecting Individual Electron Density Maps for Comparative Analysis
by Tom Goddard 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Hi Yan, PDB 4ola is an X-ray structure so you could fetch PDB and the X-ray map (from the Electron Density Server) using ChimeraX commands open 4ola open 4ola from EDS The map is a unit cell and does not cover the PDB atom coordinates. To use the crystal symmetry to extend the map to cover the atom coordinates use ChimeraX command volume cover #2 atomBox #1 The x-ray map of course has other copies of the molecules packed together and if you want to see just the x-ray density near the atom coordinates you could use volume zone #3 near #1 range 3 For PDB 7sva which is a cryoEM structure with map at the EMDB with id 25446 you can open both with open 7sva open 25446 from emdb Converting the PDB files to maps gives a different result than looking at experimental results, and I'm not sure why you want to do that. But the ChimeraX molmap command will do that by adding up Gaussians at the atom positions. That does not give a good approximation to the experimental maps in most cases. All these commands are fully documented in the ChimeraX User Guide. Tom > On Sep 25, 2024, at 1:54 AM, Yan ZHANG 张艳 <zhangyan30(a)westlake.edu.cn> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Thank you for your response. I'll try to explain my situation more clearly. > > I am comparing two structures (PDB IDs: 4ola and 7sva). I want to use the "color near atoms" feature in ChimeraX to color the maps of both structures. However, 4ola is a crystal structure and is in MTZ format. I would like to display it in the same way as an MRC file. > > I hope this is clearer. My current solution is to convert the PDB file of 4ola to an MRC file directly. This approach seems to work, but I am unsure if it is acceptable. > > Thank you for your help. > > Best regards, > Yan > > 发件人: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> > 日期: 星期三, 2024年9月25日 14:16 > 收件人: Yan ZHANG 张艳 <zhangyan30(a)westlake.edu.cn <mailto:zhangyan30@westlake.edu.cn>> > 抄送: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> > 主题: Re: [chimerax-users] Inquiry: Selecting Individual Electron Density Maps for Comparative Analysis > > You don't often get email from goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>. Learn why this is important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> > Hi Yan, > > We might have advice if you can explain what you are doing more clearly. MRC files are real space maps and MTZ files contain Fourier space coefficients. > > Tom > > > On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:57 PM, Yan ZHANG 张艳 via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > > Dear ChimeraX Team, > > I hope this message finds you well. > > I am writing to inquire whether it is possible to selectively choose individual electron density maps of a single model from the MTZ files containing crystallographic data. This capability would enable me to perform comparative analyses of the same structure obtained through different methods. Currently, I am facing a challenge as the MRC files cannot be aligned with the MTZ files. I am seeking your guidance on whether there is a solution or tool within ChimeraX that can assist me in this process. > > Your expertise and support in this matter would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for your attention to this inquiry. > > Best regards, > > Yan Zhang > Westlake University > Email: zhangyan30(a)westlake.edu.cn <mailto:zhangyan30@westlake.edu.cn> > > > > _______________________________________________ > ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Ball representation for protein-ligand system
by Enrico Martinez 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Dear ChimeraX users ! I've just found a small bug in the protein-ligand representation. if I try to change the representation of ball and sticks using: style protein ball size protein ballScale 0.18 it changes the ball representation for the both protein and ligand (e.g. defined as :lig in the system). While there is not problems with sticks: size protein stickRadius 0.12 size :lig stickRadius 0.18 So it can be applied selectively on the both selections Many thanks in advance for any suggestions ! Enrico

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Inquiry: Selecting Individual Electron Density Maps for Comparative Analysis
by Yan ZHANG 张艳 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Dear ChimeraX Team, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inquire whether it is possible to selectively choose individual electron density maps of a single model from the MTZ files containing crystallographic data. This capability would enable me to perform comparative analyses of the same structure obtained through different methods. Currently, I am facing a challenge as the MRC files cannot be aligned with the MTZ files. I am seeking your guidance on whether there is a solution or tool within ChimeraX that can assist me in this process. Your expertise and support in this matter would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for your attention to this inquiry. Best regards, Yan Zhang Westlake University Email: zhangyan30(a)westlake.edu.cn<mailto:zhangyan30@westlake.edu.cn>

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Apply the user's rotation in Python
by Roden Deng Luo 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

Hi, If I open a protein structure, change the right mouse to rotate, select the structure, rotate it by the right mouse, and then execute the following script in the Python Shell, the structure will be moved; see the video ( https://i.gyazo.com/d72344f9c8610298f574c23e53224aac.mp4) I would expect it to be not moved as the mol.atoms.coords have not been changed. The mol.atoms.scene_coords have been changed instead. But this could be my misunderstanding of the design intent. I encounter some bugs in the downstream analysis using scene_coords only. from chimerax.atomic import Structure mol = session.models.list(type = Structure)[0] transformation = mol.scene_position mol.atoms.transform(transformation) However, if I open the same structure again and execute the following, it will go to the user's rotation. mol_2 = session.models.list(type = Structure)[1] mol_2.atoms.transform(transformation) So, I then applied the following code in my script. As a result, everything is as expected, and there is no bug. mol_path = mol.filename transformation = mol.scene_position mol.delete() mol = run(self.session, f"open {mol_path}")[0] mol.atoms.transform(transformation) I wonder if there is a way to bypass this re-opening of the file. I am with version 1.7.1 (2024-01-23) on Win 11. Many thanks, Roden -- This message and its contents, including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Bond built manually with ChimeraX not shown up in Coot
by Kai Cai 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

Dear colleagues, I am trying to build a N-glycan into my model using 'bond' command with ChimeraX, by connecting the ND2 atom from an ASN residue to the C1 atom of the N-glycan (NAG). However, the manually built bond didn't show up when I opened the coordinates in Coot. Is there a way to overcome this issue? The bond length is 1.4 Å. Thanks in advance! Cheers, Kai ________________________________ UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today.

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unroll the helical structure
by Dmitry Semchonok 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

Dear colleagues, When one has a helical structure, can it be unrolled, and can the new unrolled map be saved? Thank you. Kind regards, Dmitry

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Question about processing of multi-model PDB
by Enrico Martinez 23 Sep '24

23 Sep '24

Dear Chimera-X users ! I am working on the processing of a multi-model pdb file containing biological assembly of the dimeric protein. Precisely, every monomer is in a separate model with the same chain ID (A). I need to rename the chain A to chain B in the second model and then fuse the both models, so that the entire construction will be in the same model. What commands could be used to such modifications? Many thanks in advance Enrico

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Identify Contacts?
by Shawn Rumrill 23 Sep '24

23 Sep '24

Hello ChimeraX Users, I would like to analyze protein/nucleic acid complexes from the PDB by comparing the protein/nucleic acid chain interactions in each. Ideally I would like to know: * The number of interactions < 4.0 A that the nucleic acid makes with neighboring protein chains * If possible, output a list of those interactions to a text file * Even better, generate a 2D interaction map I tried contacts (#1/A | #1/B) #1/C cutoff 4.0 saveFile contacts_ABC.txt for the first bullet (with a few permutations when it didn't work), but received the error "expected a keyword." Has anyone successfully determined something like this in ChimeraX? Thanks for the input! Shawn R Rutgers University

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Re: [Chimera-users] Generating a single electrostatic potential surface for a protein + ligand complex
by Elaine Meng 23 Sep '24

23 Sep '24

Hi Jade, This chimera-users email address is for questions about Chimera. In the future, for questions about ChimeraX, please instead use the other address chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> (CC'd on this message) to avoid confusing other users. This answer is for ChimeraX and does not apply to Chimera: If you meant you wanted a single surface that goes around both the ligand and the protein in a single blob: You would have to use the "surface" command with the "include" option to make a single surface around both the ligand and the protein. <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/surface.html#options> Then you would have to use "coulombic" command with the "surfaces" option to use the surface you already made instead of one that has the protein only. <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/coulombic.html#charges> Example commands for PDB file 8iyx with GPR34 receptor with antagonist bound, residue name S6R. This example assumes you want to see the potential that is from both the receptor and the ligand, on the surface that is both the receptor and the ligand. open 8iyx surface include protein | :S6R coulombic protein | :S6R surfaces #1.2 The surface command says to make a single blob around both protein and residue S6R (the symbol between them is a vertical bar character). The coulombic command says to calculate the electrostatics using the charges of both the protein and residue S6R, and use it to color the previously made surface #1.2. You have to look in the Models panel and use the disclosure triangle to see what model number the surface has. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco > On Sep 21, 2024, at 11:07 PM, jadeshi88--- via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Hi, > New user to ChimeraX here, would really appreciate some help! > > I'm trying to generate an electrostatic potential surface for a protein-ligand complex. Currently, I am using the surface/coulombic, and surface ligand/coulombic ligand commands to generate surfaces separately for the protein and ligand, and then exporting to an .obj file. However, by doing so I'm left with two separate surface meshes, and what I really want is a single surface that encapsulates both entities. Is it possible to do this? > > Thanks in advance!

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Transition of the camera between two view perspectives
by Enrico Martinez 22 Sep '24

22 Sep '24

Dear Chimera-X users ! I have a question about the transition of the camera between two different views. E.g. I have (1) a closed zoom view on some selection with the defined coordinates view matrix camera 0.33173,-0.24137,-0.91197,-114.7,0.22734,0.95868,-0.17103,31.486,0.91557,-0.15059,0.3729,66.518 and (2) some general view of the whole system, with the same coordinates. Now, starting from the closed view I need to gradually move camera from (1) to the (2), which can be manually achieved using move command e.g. # zoom out and shift camera to the right move z -0.3 300; move y -0.05 300 Would it be possible additionally to provide coordinates of the both views in order to make such a camera transition more smooth and accurate ? Many thanks in advance ! Enrico

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Ligand protein interaction in visual
by Mamadou Sangare 22 Sep '24

22 Sep '24

Dear I would like to insert in my PPT presentation ten ligands (chemical compounds) interacting with the binding site of the protein with chimera X. Thank you in advance for your support Kind regards! Mamadou SANGARE, PhD student ACE-Mali

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Slight bug in ChimeraX
by Sergio Pipaón Alcíbar 19 Sep '24

19 Sep '24

Hello!! My name is Sergio Pipaón, from the National Center for Biotechnology in Madrid. I wanted to report a couple of -what I believe are- bugs: 1) I hate the depthCue to visualize my structures, so I usually run: lighting depthCue false in my sessions. However, for some reason, this is not stored in the session info, and you have to run it again every time you close and open your session. 2) The commands that you can introduce in the ’Startup’ section of the preferences seem to not work in some cases (I am referring to the ‘Execute these commands at startup’ text box). The aliases work fine, but I also have written the following: graphics silhouettes true lighting soft lighting shadows true lighting depthCue false ~cofr And these do not seem to run. Definitely not the lighting depthCue false. Extra: I would be cool to have a button in ‘Graphics’ to easily change the depthCue from to true to false. Am I obsessed with the depthCue? Maybe, but I hope that this is valuable feedback. I am currently running ChimeraX-1.8-rc2024.05.10. Thank you guys!! Sergio. -- Sergio Pipaón Alcíbar (PhD Student) Dept. of Macromolecular Structures, lab. S0 / Ext: 5347 National Center for Biotechnology (CNB - CSIC) C/ Darwin, 3 28049, Cantoblanco-Madrid email: spipaon(a)cnb.csic.es

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Re: [Chimera-users] Selecting chain via command line
by Elaine Meng 19 Sep '24

19 Sep '24

Hi Ellen, You sent this question to the Chimera address -- in the future, please send ChimeraX questions to the ChimeraX address chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> CC'd here to avoid confusing the other users. This answer is for ChimeraX: It works for me: labels show the insertion code. Make sure you have ChimeraX 1.8 or newer. Example 1h4w which has residues with insertion codes 184A, 188A, 221A: open 1h4w label :184,184A height 2 I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco > On Sep 17, 2024, at 10:20 PM, Ellen Shrock via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Hi Elaine and Eric, > > I hope all is well. I am writing because I am using the chimerax command 'label sel residues height 1' but I noticed that the insertion codes are not making it into the labels. I attached an example cxc session along with the commands provided. In, for example, model #4, there are two residues labeled '100' even though when I hover over the residues, they have insertion codes. Do you know if there is a way I can label the residues with the position numbers including the insertion codes? > (I copied below the entire script I ran. Please let me know if there is any additional information I can provide.) > > Thanks, > Ellen > >

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Displaying methyl groups on DNA?
by Maja Divjak 19 Sep '24

19 Sep '24

Hi there, Hope you're well. I'm sure this is a rookie question, but I'm having trouble displaying the methyl groups on a methylated DNA sequence, as shown in PDB 6C1Y. [A colorful structure with multiple colors Description automatically generated with medium confidence] I've tried selecting the DNA and then showing the methyl functional group, but this selects all the methyl groups including those in the protein sequence. I also tried selecting the individual bases I know are methylated using eg select #2/C:6, but not sure of the command to show the methyl group following this ie select #2/C:6 show methyl does not work, whereas show methyl as a solo command shows all methyl groups in the whole structure. Couldn't find anything in the help files, unfortunately. Thanks so much and best wishes, Maja

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(no subject)
by Kasia Ojar 18 Sep '24

18 Sep '24

Hello, I hope this email finds you well. I am writing because I have a couple of questions regarding opening up the ChimeraX program. I am a student and I have downloaded the ChimeraX and cannot seem to open the program despite it being on my desktop. I have Microsoft and the software is Windows 11. Thank you for your help.

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