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Re: [chimerax-users] AlphaFold Prediction
by Tom Goddard 31 Oct '22

31 Oct '22

Hi Raihan, The maximum sequence length that can be predicted by AlphaFold is limited by GPU memory. The following table says that paid Google Colab services only offer at most 16 Gbytes of GPU memory (from https://blog.paperspace.com/alternative-to-google-colab-pro/ <https://blog.paperspace.com/alternative-to-google-colab-pro/>). Not sure if it is correct since the table is from a Google competitor. You can run sequence length 1000, sometimes 1200, with 16 GB of GPU memory as shown here https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/alphafold-jan2022/afspeed.html Various cloud compute services offer modern GPUs like Nvidia A40, A100, A6000 with 48 GB, or 40 or 80 GB of GPU memory usually charging about $2-3 per hour. But ChimeraX can only currently use Google Colab for AlphaFold predictions. Tom > On Oct 31, 2022, at 2:45 PM, S.M. RAIHAN RAHMAN <smrrbtgeiu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you. I saw the run times. Is it possible to run sequences of around 1200 in Google Colab pro plus paid service through ChimeraX? In the website link you shared, I only saw about Google Colab pro paid service. Please let me know. > > Regards, > Raihan > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 14:33, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: > ChimeraX only runs AlphaFold on Google Colab. Because Google Colab provides 5 year old GPUs with little memory (16 GB) it can only run sequences of length about 1000 or less. With better equipment and your own AlphaFold installation you can run sequences up to length 3000 or 4000 although that can take 30 hours. Here are example run times > > https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/alphafold-jan2022/afspeed.html <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/alphafold-jan2022/afspeed.html> > > Tom > > >> On Oct 31, 2022, at 2:28 PM, S.M. RAIHAN RAHMAN <smrrbtgeiu(a)gmail.com <mailto:smrrbtgeiu@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thank you so much. Is there any alternative to Google Colab for running AlphaFold through ChimeraX? Please let me know. >> >> Regards, >> Raihan >> >> On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 14:22, Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net <mailto:goddard@sonic.net>> wrote: >> Hi Raihan, >> >> The ChimeraX AlphaFold prediction produces 5 models but it only automatically opens the best model. All 5 models are in the ~/Downloads/ChimeraX/AlphaFold/prediction directory after the job completes. There is no option to run fewer models. Running AlphaFold not through ChimeraX also produces 5 models. This is because AlphaFold works by running 5 slightly differently trained neural networks and the best is chosen. If you install your own AlphaFold (a somewhat difficult task, needs Linux and an Nvidia GPU and a few Tbytes of disk for databases) then you can modify the AlphaFold Python code to predict only one or a few models by choosing which of the 5 networks it should run. >> >> Tom >> >> > On Oct 31, 2022, at 1:39 PM, S.M. RAIHAN RAHMAN via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > Good Afternoon. I hope that you are doing well. I am facing a problem in running structure prediction of large protein sequence in AlphaFold prediction. Is there any way of predicting only 2 models of a given sequence in lieu of 5 models before providing the final model in AlphaFold prediction? Please let me know. Thank you. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Raihan >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ChimeraX-users mailing list >> > ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> > Manage subscription: >> > https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users> >> >

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AlphaFold Prediction
by S.M. RAIHAN RAHMAN 31 Oct '22

31 Oct '22

Hi! Good Afternoon. I hope that you are doing well. I am facing a problem in running structure prediction of large protein sequence in AlphaFold prediction. Is there any way of predicting only 2 models of a given sequence in lieu of 5 models before providing the final model in AlphaFold prediction? Please let me know. Thank you. Regards, Raihan

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Copy a part of a model ?
by mailman-bounces＠cgl.ucsf.edu 31 Oct '22

31 Oct '22

Hi :) I wanted to duplicate only one part of a model and I haven't found a copy function (I found this old thread tho https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimerax-users/2020-January/000783.html <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimerax-users/2020-January/000783.html>) For now my strategy is to duplicate the model with "combine #1 close false" and then delete what I don't want on the new model like for example (to delete helices) "delete ~helix & #2" I know you are always super busy with ChimeraX dev, but I thought this could be a good "quick way" to create a "copy" function of example (if there are no alternative that I missed of course). Have a great day! Best regards, Thibault. -- Thibault Tubiana, PhD Postdoctoral Fellow @IMAPP <https://www.i2bc.paris-saclay.fr/equipe-interactions-and-assembly-mechanism…> Institute for integrative biology of the cell (I2BC <https://www.i2bc.paris-saclay.fr/>) - CNRS UMR 9198 CEA Saclay, 91191 Gif sur Yvette - Bât 532 pce 34 Web Site: http://www.tubiana.me/gallery <http://www.tubiana.me/>

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Re: [chimerax-users] [Chimera-users] Question regarding protein-protein interactions in ChimeraX
by Elaine Meng 31 Oct '22

31 Oct '22

Hi Camille, ChimeraX does not move the proteins to predict how they might bind each other, although you could move one relative to the other "manually" (with the mouse) yourself, or use some other program to do protein-protein docking. ChimeraX is just showing the coordinates in the Protein DataBank data files that you opened, i.e. whatever the authors deposited. If you are using ChimeraX, for future questions you may want to use ChimeraX mailing list chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu CC'd here instead of the Chimera one. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco > On Oct 30, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Lake, Camille (NIH/NIAID) [C] via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Hello, > > My name is Camille Lake and I have used ChimeraX to model proteins. I was wondering - if I load two completely separate proteins from PDB, what is the nature of their interaction as shown by ChimeraX? The two proteins I'm interested in, TIM-3 (5f71) and CEACAM1 (5dzl), are predicted to interact in the literature, but if I load them separately into ChimeraX, is this predicted interaction what displays automatically? It seems that they are, but I can't find anywhere on the web whether this is automatically done in ChimeraX. Other proteins I randomly add in generally keep far away from each other in space. > > Thank you, > > Camille

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can not download
by keqing yin 29 Oct '22

29 Oct '22

Hello, There is no reaction after I clicked the save as the CSV when I want to download the clipper from tools/more tools . I would be very appreciate if you could solve this problem. [cid:image003.png@01D8EAFB.ECAB74A0] 从 Windows 版邮件<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>发送

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How do I visualize an amber nc file in ChimeraX?
by Yasmene Wang Elhady 28 Oct '22

28 Oct '22

Hello, I'm new to molecular modeling, and new to Chimera. I'm trying to visualize an AMBER .nc output file from an AMBER tutorial ( http://ambermd.org/tutorials/basic/tutorial0/) and I have a topology file that in VMD is the type AMBER7 Parm. How can I visualize this in ChimeraX? I saw another thread suggesting to use the MD movie tool, but I don't see that option in ChimeraX. Is this something I need to add? If so, where can I get it from, and how do I add it? Thanks in advance, Yasmene

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Selection by segid
by CUNIASSE Philippe 28 Oct '22

28 Oct '22

Dear all, Is there a way in ChimeraX to make a selection by segid (column 73-76 in pdb format from CHARMM of XPLOR)? Thanks in advance. Philippe Cuniasse. ----------------------------------------------- Philippe Cuniasse, PhD/HDR. Institut de Biologie Integrative de la cellule. UMR 9198 CNRS-CEA-Univ Paris Sud Bat 144 CE-Saclay 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex France Tel: (33) 1 69 08 56 35 Fax: (33) 1 69 08 47 12 Email: philippe.cuniasse(a)cea.fr<mailto:philippe.cuniasse@cea.fr> Web: http://biodev.cea.fr/rasmot3d/ [signature_700846419][signature_2907812893][signature_966493179] -----------------------------------------------

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Re: [chimerax-users] ChimeraX sequence alignment score?
by Elaine Meng 27 Oct '22

27 Oct '22

> On Oct 27, 2022, at 4:46 PM, Budayr, Omar Mahdi <obudayr(a)vols.utk.edu> wrote: > > Dear Dr. Meng, > > I looked through the documentation for ChimeraX and I still cannot figure out what the value for sequence alignment score indicates. I aligned two b-adrenergic receptors from PDB (2RH1 and 3NH8) and it gives a value of 2423.9. What does this value actually represent? The documentation refers to it but never gives specifics besides the parameters in the table that matchmaker generates > > Sincerely, > Omar Budayr Dear Omar Budayr, The value itself is not at all important. The reason to have a score is that the alignment process tries to maximize it for the pair of sequences that it is given. By changing parameters for scoring you can change the relative importance of the different parts of the score, and thus what is most important for the alignment method to align. I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco P.S. we recommend sending questions to the chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu address (CC'd here) so that others can benefit from the answers and/or help to answer the questions - thanks!

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Selecting residues in two chains
by McClean, Phillip 27 Oct '22

27 Oct '22

Hi Everyone, I have a .pdb file created using AF2 Multimer. It consists of two chains, B and C. Chain B is a protein with 315 residues, while Chain C is a protein with 662 residues. Each chain is modeled with structured and unstructured regions. I would like to only show residues 19-24 of Chain B and residues 1-190 of Chain C in the display window. I have tried using the information provided on the "Command-Line Target Specification" page, but I have not had any success with just displaying those ranges of residues in the display window. My goal is to highlight specific features of those ranges of residues to display their interaction. Thanks for any information you can provide. Phil McClean

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segmented tomogram density in chimeraX
by Jesse HANSEN 25 Oct '22

25 Oct '22

hi all, I have segmented a tomogram in Amira and exported to chimera for visualization. I first opened the .rec file in chimera and re-saved as .mrc. Okay, the segmentation output gives a fully filled volume cube except for the regions of segmentation. Obviously things are inverted. Also, the volume viewer shows clear sharp peaks (delta functions) rather than continuous density, as volume slider moves to the right new segmentation features appear. So I used volume filter with "scale" to -1, and I turned off "displayed subregions only". This fixed the inversion problem and now as I slide toward the right I see more segmented densities. However the threshold values are all negative (-250 on the far left to -240 on the far right). This, combined with the densities being sharp peaks, makes it impossible to use this volume like a regular volume for surface coloring, filtering, segger, etc. Any suggestion on how to go from this step to a usable density would be appreciated. thanks! Jesse ================================= Dr. Jesse Hansen Schur Group Institute of Science and Technology Austria Am Campus 1 3400 Klosterneuburg Austria

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Useful tools ideas/requests
by Shayne Quinn 21 Oct '22

21 Oct '22

Hello, I have been using ChimeraX for a few years now for multidimensional cell bio-imaging and cannot thank the team and developers enough for such an amazing program. I am not sure where to ask for other useful tools so I am starting here. These may already exist but I was unsuccessful in finding them in the user guide so my apologies if I missed them. 1) Is there an option to color the different axis for the 'showOutlineBox' feature for volumes? For example box lines in x-blue, y-green and z-red to help keep orientation (I have included a mock version in the attachment) 2) I work specifically with Lattice Light Sheet Data which requires our 3D cells to be placed on glass coverslip that do not show up in the captured data but are useful for referencing orientation. Is there a feature in place already that would allow me to create a mock coverslip. So far I resorted to importing a throwaway volume (Volume 4 in attachment) and made the threshold for a surface ~0, set it to grey, and made it fill the bottom 5 pixels or so, shown in the attachment. 3) Is there a time stamp feature similar to the scale bar function that has already been implemented? Thank you so much for all the time and effort that has been put in and for creating such an amazing visualization tool! Cheers, Shayne Quinn

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Installing ChimeraX on Ubuntu 16.04 or openSuse Leap 15.2
by Miguel 19 Oct '22

19 Oct '22

Hello, I am trying to install ChimeraX on Ubuntu 16.04 or openSUSE Leap 15.2 without success. Is it possible? If so, what would be the procedure? Thanks, Miguel

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Center of the erase sphere
by Tianming Qu 19 Oct '22

19 Oct '22

Hi ChimeraX developers, Is there any way I can know the center of the erase sphere in CHimeraX? Best, Tianming

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Generate surface from a model using user defined color
by HONG ZHAN 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

Dear all, I would like to generate surface using my model but I want to keep the color as I defined. My protein contains only one chain so that when I ran Surface command, it generated surface with one color... Is there a way to generate surface to keep my defined color? Super thanks! Hong

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chimeraX clipper install
by Gutierrez, Dominique 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

Hello, I tried to install clipper with the popup window but it takes forever. I downloaded it directly from the website. Where do I put it .whl file? Best Regards, Dominique Gutierrez

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Re: [chimerax-users] [chimera-dev] ChimeraX pyhton script
by Elaine Meng 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

> On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:26 AM, Jan Hofmann via Chimera-dev <chimera-dev(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > To whom it may concern, > I want to write a python script to open a pdb file, then load a .xplor file in as well. After one rotation which I also want to do via the script I want to export the output file as a .png file. > Could you provide any advice to me on how to write such a script? I am having troubles loading any python script into ChimeraX. Eventually I want to use this script to batch wise output structures including guest adsorption where the guest species is introduced via the .xplor from previous analysis and the structure is provided by a .pdb file. I really would need some advice/tutorial at this stage so I would be more than happy to hear back from you. > Many thanks and kind regards, > Jan Hofmann, M.Sc. > PhD Student, Department of Chemistry > Chapman Group > Stony Brook University > jan.hofmann(a)stonybrook.edu > Office: Room 563, Chemistry Hi Jan, This is the Chimera list, maybe you wanted to send to chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu instead? (Cc'd) Maybe it can be done at least partly with ChimeraX command script instead of a python script. If you do these steps interactively in ChimeraX, it should show the corresponding commands in the Log . A ChimeraX command script is just the same commands you would enter in the Command Line, except in a plain text file named something.cxc as explained here: <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/usageconventions.html#cxc…> There is also a "forEachFile" option of the "open" command to read a ChimeraX command file and apply it to a series of input files, e.g. all the .pdb files in some folder. If you name the .xplor files to match the corresponding .pdb files, maybe you can use the $ mechanism described for that option, see: <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/open.html#forEachFile> I hope this helps, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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How to hide a chain and overly the shown chain with another model
by McClean, Phillip 13 Oct '22

13 Oct '22

I have a .pdb file obtained from ColabFold. The model was developed with AlphaFold2 Multimer. It has two chains. How can I 1) hide only one chain and then 2) add a second model. The second model will be the visualized chain developed only on its own. I am looking for regions that might be different between the model with a second protein and by itself. I tried hide /c but that didn't work. Phil McClean

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Loading density files
by Tianming Qu 12 Oct '22

12 Oct '22

Dear Chimerax developers: I have a lot of density files, is there anyway I can load them at the same time and view then like a protein traj? Best, Tianming

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Problem reading ccp4 maps
by Luca Pellegrini 11 Oct '22

11 Oct '22

When I try to read ccp4 maps from Phenix Resolve_cryoEM into ChimeraX, I’ve started getting the following message: "MRC file is truncated. Failed reading 1 values, type int32” It’s ChimeraX version 1.5.dev202210110346 (2022-10-11)/ macOS Monterey/MacBook Pro 2021, M1 Pro. Best wishes, Luca

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Can you do convex hull on ChimeraX?
by Tianming Qu 10 Oct '22

10 Oct '22

Hi dear ChimeraX-Users and developers, Is ChimeraX available for drawing the convex hull of protein structures? Best, Tianming

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Fit in map, save new coords of map
by Nebojsa Bogdanovic 10 Oct '22

10 Oct '22

Hello, I open two maps and I fit #2 into #1. I need to save map #2 at it's new position, but there is no option "relative to model or map". By doing "volume resample #1 onGrid #1, I match the box sizes but the new position is not maintained after saving that new map. Is there any command/function I could do that with? Thank You and regards, Nebojša Bogdanović, Ph.D Department of Physiology and Biophysics, School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University

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Re: [chimerax-users] alphafold contacts between 3 and more subunits
by Tom Goddard 10 Oct '22

10 Oct '22

Hi André, I added two options "replace" (default true) and "name" (default "PAE Contacts") to the alphafold contacts command. The replace option determines if existing contact pseudobonds (in the group with the specified or default name) are deleted. If replace is false the new contacts are just added to any existing ones. The name option gives the pseudobond model the specified name. So you could use alphafold contacts /A to /B alphafold contacts /B to /C replace false alphafold contacts /A to /C replace false to put all the contacts in one pseudobond submodel. If instead you wanted them in 3 different models you could use alphafold contacts /A to /B name "AB contacts" alphafold contacts /B to /C name "BC contacts" alphafold contacts /A to /C name "AC contacts" This will be in tomorrow's (Oct 11) ChimeraX daily builds. Tom > On Oct 10, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Michaelis, Andre Clemens <michaelis(a)biochem.mpg.de> wrote: > > Awesome, > Thank you so much! > > Best > André > > > —————————————————— > > >> Am 10.10.2022 um 20:50 schrieb Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net>: >> >> Hi André, >> >> The "alphafold contacts" command creates a submodel of the atomic structure containing pseudobonds with the submodel named "PAE Contacts". If you rename that submodel then it won't replace it when you do the second alphafold contacts command on the same structure. For instance, if the structure is model #1. >> >> alphafold contacts /A to /B >> rename #1.1 "AB contacts" >> alphafold contacts /B to /C >> rename #1.2 "BC contacts" >> alphafold contacts /A to /C >> >> This should be easier to do. I should add an option to the alphafold contacts command "replace false" that automatically uses new names for each group of pseudobonds. I've made a request for this. >> >> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/7770 <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/7770> >> >> Tom >> >>> On Oct 10, 2022, at 5:47 AM, Michaelis, Andre Clemens via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is it possible to draw contacts (PAE, alphafold) between more than just 2 subunits? >>> e.g.: >>> alphafold contacts /A to /B >>> AND >>> alphafold contacts /B to /C >>> AND >>> alphafold contacts /A to /C >>> >>> Righ now, a new command deletes the old contacts. Not sure about a syntax that would combine/add those >>> >>> Thank you very much! >>> >>> Best André >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ChimeraX-users mailing list >>> ChimeraX-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >>> Manage subscription: >>> https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users <https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users>

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alphafold contacts between 3 and more subunits
by Michaelis, Andre Clemens 10 Oct '22

10 Oct '22

Hi, Is it possible to draw contacts (PAE, alphafold) between more than just 2 subunits? e.g.: alphafold contacts /A to /B AND alphafold contacts /B to /C AND alphafold contacts /A to /C Righ now, a new command deletes the old contacts. Not sure about a syntax that would combine/add those Thank you very much! Best André

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mrc to pdb
by Tianming Qu 07 Oct '22

07 Oct '22

Hi, is there any way I can convert a .mrc file to .pdb file in chimera? Best, Tianming

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A question about the level option in volume viewer
by Qu Tianming 06 Oct '22

06 Oct '22

Hi ChimeraX-developers, I got a question about the level option in volume viewer. I think the level represent the isovalue for the density map. So when I set the level as 0.03, I got a density map as following : [?? ???????] When I set the level as 0.01, the density map as following: [?? ???????] So my question is that, does level 0.03 or 0.01 means, all grids with a density value lower than 0.03 or 0.01 will be present? Means when I set the level as 0.01, everything left in the density map is the density value lower than 0.01? Best, Tianming

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