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Re: Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor
by Tom Goddard 08 May '25

08 May '25

Hi Gökhan, The Samsung web page you referenced says the monitor is $3000, the same price as the Acer 27", and the Samsung also uses eye-tracking so it will probably only work for one person. The Sony and Acer displays both use OpenXR and eye tracking. This is good and bad. The good part is as you move your head to the side you see the side of the rendered objects. The bad is that most 3D applications do not support OpenXR unless they are VR applications. In contrast the Samsung uses side-by-side video input. That allows it to work with any 3D application that supports that common 3D format. Here's a description on Reddit talking about side-by-side input with the Samsung. (Unfortunately the Samsung manual does not say much.) https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1k8wnqa/samsung_odyssey_3d_g90xf… The drawback of the Samsung approach is that the monitor has no way to tell the application (e.g. ChimeraX) that your head has moved to the side (that is what OpenXR does). So when you move your head to the side you just see the same view direction of the 3D object only skewed. It's not a disaster, you can rotate the molecule if you want to see it from the side. The Samsung manual says only Windows is supported since they include some crappy software that runs on your Windows machine. I'm not sure if it is needed to handle side-by-side input. I'd love to see the Samsung display. It uses a 4K panel like the Sony and Acer. Like those displays it must be using a lenticular grating to send some pixels to your left eye and some to your right eye so the actual resolution in 3D is more like HD (2K). Still that is pretty good. (With old technology LCD shutter glasses you would get full 4K resolution since the two eye images use all screen pixels and just alternate in time.) If I had one of these displays I think I could make ChimeraX render full-screen side-by-side. Since you can't drag the ChimeraX graphics into a separate window I would try to add code to create a separate window and render to it as an option. My lab does not have money to spare to buy such a display (NIH funding problems), so don't expect to work on this. Tom > On May 7, 2025, at 11:19 PM, <tolung.bio(a)gmail.com> <tolung.bio(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > This Samsung is less than half the price (27” for 2K USD) compared to the SONY in the review. > > Let me know if you can score one of these to test/develop for :) > > Cheers, > > Gökhan > > > From: Tom Goddard <goddard(a)sonic.net> > Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2025 8:45 AM > To: tolung.bio(a)gmail.com > Cc: chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor > > Hi Gökhan, > > There is no ChimeraX capability to make the graphics pane full screen, so it will not work with a 3D display that wants full-screen side-by-side stereo format. The graphics pane is not a docked panel like the other ChimeraX tools. The ChimeraX main window is a Qt QMainWindow which treats that center area specially and it cannot be detached into a floating window. I'm not sure how hard it would be to allow that. > > We are also working on glasses-free eye-tracked 3D displays such as the Sony Spatial Reality and Acer SpatialLabs displays. They use OpenXR and only work on Windows and only with 1 person viewing, and costly $3000-5000, so they have some limitations. Here's a description of trying the Sony 3D display with ChimeraX > > https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/data/sony3d-mar2025/sony3d.html > > Tom > > > >> On May 7, 2025, at 12:24 AM, Gokhan via ChimeraX-users <chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu>> wrote: >> >> Hello ChimeraX team and users, >> >> Does ChimeraX support this monitor? >> >> https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-3d-g90xf-27-inch-165hz-u… >> >> I read a very positive review about this monitor and may consider buying one if it works with ChimeraX. >> >> The review says that this monitor needs a full-screen side-by-side output. Just as many of the sub-windows of ChimeraX can be docked and undocked (e.g., log, Models, etc.), is there way to ‘undock’ the main graphics window to make it full screen? Or, is there a way to display the graphics window on a secondary monitor as a full-screen output? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gökhan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ChimeraX-users mailing list -- chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> To unsubscribe send an email to chimerax-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users-leave@cgl.ucsf.edu> >> Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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Samsung 27" Odyssey 3D G90XF 4K 165Hz Monitor
by tolung.bio＠gmail.com 07 May '25

07 May '25

Hello ChimeraX team and users, Does ChimeraX support this monitor? https://www.samsung.com/au/monitors/gaming/odyssey-3d-g90xf-27-inch-165hz-uh d-ls27fg900xexxy/?srsltid=AfmBOopLIkVAywsvNylPGVRL3wUoUJuBvUOPOz0metBjwLM2Nn xgmQVf I read a very positive review about this monitor and may consider buying one if it works with ChimeraX. The review says that this monitor needs a full-screen side-by-side output. Just as many of the sub-windows of ChimeraX can be docked and undocked (e.g., log, Models, etc.), is there way to undock the main graphics window to make it full screen? Or, is there a way to display the graphics window on a secondary monitor as a full-screen output? Thanks, Gökhan

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including HET atoms in kvfinder calculations from ChimeraX
by Elaine Meng 07 May '25

07 May '25

> On May 7, 2025, at 2:01 AM, Mühleip, Alexander <alexander.muhleip(a)helsinki.fi> wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > > I am checking out the new kvfinder tool in ChimeraX. I was wondering if there is some way to prevent it from disregarding heteroatoms in the cavity search (in my eyes, e.g. excluding hemes is not helpful). I tried changing the selection syntax, but I think the pruning is taking place internally in kvfinder. > > Is there some way to interfere with it or make an ignore option (like the isolde implementation in chimerax has)? > > Best wishes, > Alex > > Alexander Mühleip > group leader > HiLIFE-Institute of Biotechnology > University of Helsinki > Finland > +358503282167 Hi Alex, Generally it's better to ask on the chimerax-users list, since as the resident non-programmer I often don't know implementation details. I CC'd the list in case others may also be interested in this topic. After consultation with the programmer who implemented this tool, we could not think of any current workaround. It uses the "main" category of atoms (definition in link below) which is automatically assigned cannot be manually overwritten. <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/atomspec.html#surfcats> However, we can consider this a request for enhancement that might be added in the future. Best wishes, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco

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1.10 Release Candidates Available Now
by Zach Pearson 07 May '25

07 May '25

Hello ChimeraX users, The first release candidate of ChimeraX 1.10 is available for download today. — Zach

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Options to align two models and calculate per-residue RMSD
by christian.steinmetzger＠imbim.uu.se 07 May '25

07 May '25

Dear ChimeraX users, I'm working with some different ribosome structures which I first want to align to a reference structure (as rigid bodies) and then calculate RMSD values with respect to the reference. The number of chains are the same between my structures and the reference, and the chain names + residue numbers are congruent as well. However, some of my chains have residues missing or added at the ends, have a small number of insertions (using insertion codes in the pdb file) or point mutations. What I have tried so far is: "matchmaker #2 to #1 pairing ss show true" "save file.defattr #2 attrName r:seq_rmsd modelIds false" (to store the resulting RMSD values for later use) which aligns based on CA for protein chains and C4' for RNA. I haven't given any explicit chain specification (each model has 56 chains). Am I correct to think that the RMSD values I get are based on a whole-structure rigid-body alignment that takes all chains into account simultaneously? Or does it align each chain in #2 to its matching chain in #1 individually? For the proteins I think per-residue CA-RMSD values are suitable for what I need, but for the RNA chains I would like to get per-residue all-atom RMSDs, not just C4'. Can this be achieved with matchmaker? I have also tried to use the align command like this: "align #2 toAtoms #1 each structure matchChainIds true matchNumbering true" which, to my understanding, would do the alignment not just based on CA/C4', but for all atoms. Is that correct? With this, what would be the best way to extract per-residue RMSD values? The "rmsd" command rightfully complains about unequal numbers of atoms between #1 and #2. Is there a way to implicitly select only the atoms that are congruent between #1 and #2? Kind regards, Christian

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RMSD for all frames in a trajectory
by Alexandra Zahradnikova 07 May '25

07 May '25

Dear All, I am working with a trajectory of a tetramer. I would like to align the A chains in all frame of the trajectory and then calculate the rmsd of all chains in all frames relative to the respective chain of the first frame (i.e., align only chains A but calculate for all chains), and write the results to a text file. Is that possible? I can do a similar calculation with a script in old Chimera but don’t know how to do it in ChimeraX. I attach the zipped script for old Chimera. Best regards Sasha

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Re: [Chimera-users] Add sequence logo to view
by Elaine Meng 05 May '25

05 May '25

Hi Alex, Sorry no we do not have a feature like that currently. (P.S. It may be better to use the chimerax-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu <mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu> address CC'd here for ChimeraX questions.) In ChimeraX: The most similar thing I can thihk of is that for deep mutational scanning results it is possible to show labels with the scores of each residue type shown in a color-coded grid, but the "rub" is that you would have to open the data from a specific format we are using for these kinds of results: mutation scores format: <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/formats/mutationcsv.html> I could imagine that instead the sequence alignment profile at each position could be shown as a similar label. ChimeraX has a new profile-grid viewer for sequence alignments as an optional alternative to the standard viewer, <https://rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/tools/profilegrid.html> .... so such a label could essentially be the profile column rearranged into a squarish grid, as in the mutational scanning labels image above. However, that has not yet been discussed (nor implemented, of course). We do not have any sequence logo type of display. Regards, Elaine ----- Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D. UCSF Chimera(X) team Resource for Biocomputing, Visualization, and Informatics Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry University of California, San Francisco > On May 5, 2025, at 7:35 AM, Alexander Lee via Chimera-users <chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > Dear ChimeraX community, > > I have a consensus sequence + logo done in an outside program. Is there a way to superimpose this onto a crystal structure? When hovering my mouse over a residue in the structure viewer (or sequence viewer), I would like the logo to come up. Is there a similar feature available? > > Regards, > Alex > _______________________________________________ > Chimera-users mailing list -- chimera-users(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > To unsubscribe send an email to chimera-users-leave(a)cgl.ucsf.edu > Archives: https://mail.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/

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How can I overlay the 2Fo-Fc density map onto the amino acid residues I specified?
by 1025049892＠qq.com 04 May '25

04 May '25

Every time I open the map file in ChimeraX, I find that it doesn't overlap with my PDB structure. Why is this the case, and how can I make them match? Thank you for your attention. I'm looking forward to your reply.

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Search in Command History
by Roden Deng Luo 02 May '25

02 May '25

Dear ChimeraX team, Not sure if there is one already, would be great to have a search box in the "Command History" window. Best, Roden -- This message and its contents, including attachments are intended solely for the original recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message from your computer system. Any unauthorized use or distribution is prohibited. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Morphing of structures with different chain numbers
by Enrico Martinez 01 May '25

01 May '25

Dear ChimeraX Users, I am trying to perform a morphing between two cryo-EM structures of the same complex, where one structure has twice the number of chains as the other (PDBs 3J9K and 8Y6Q). However, the larger structure causes an error during morphing. I have attempted to write a script that aligns the two structures and deletes the unmatched chains from the larger structure. Unfortunately, the script is not working as expected. from chimerax.core.commands import run def delete_unmatched_chains(session): # Get models #1 and #2 m1 = next((m for m in session.models if m.id == (1,)), None) m2 = next((m for m in session.models if m.id == (2,)), None) if m1 is None or m2 is None: session.logger.info("Model #1 or #2 not found.") return chains1 = {chain.chain_id for chain in m1.chains} chains2 = {chain.chain_id for chain in m2.chains} unmatched = chains1 - chains2 if unmatched: chain_ids = ",".join(unmatched) # Deleting unmatched chains run(session, f"delete /{chain_ids}") session.logger.info(f"Deleted chains: {', '.join(unmatched)}") else: session.logger.info("No unmatched chains found.") Could you please help me or alternatively propose another solution? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance ! Enrico

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